Re: [DMM] WGLC #2 starts for draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-03

2013-04-26 Thread Alper Yegin
Hi Charlie, - It is claimed that a centralized architecture requires more resources than a distributed architecture. This is usually false. For instance, if a centralized node requires 100 units, and 100 distributed nodes each require 1.03 units, the distributed architecture requires 3

Re: [DMM] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis-01.txt

2013-07-17 Thread Alper Yegin
Hello Dapeng, Here are me few comments: It is typically the role of a connection manager to distinguish application capabilities and trigger the mobility support accordingly. and Multiple IP address management: ability of the mobile node to simultaneously use

Re: [DMM] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis-01.txt

2013-07-19 Thread Alper Yegin
Dapeng, Mobility management and traffic redirection should only be triggered due to IP mobility reasons, that is when the MN moves from the point of attachment where the IP flow was originally initiated. Mobility management and traffic redirection may also be

Re: [DMM] I-D Action: draft-bernardos-dmm-pmip-02.txt

2013-07-22 Thread Alper Yegin
Hello folks, Few comments on this I-D: For next MN's movements the process is repeated except for the number of P-MAARs involved, that rises accordingly to the number of prefixes that the MN wishes to maintain. Indeed, once the CMD receives the first PBU from the new S-MAAR, it

Re: [DMM] comments/questions on draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility-00

2013-07-24 Thread Alper Yegin
Hi Jouni, Thanks for the review and comments. Alper, I read the draft and have few quick comments and questions. Interesting draft by the way. In Section 3.1. it says: - Access Network Anchored Address This type of IP address provides IP session continuity but not IP address

Re: [DMM] comments/questions of draft-yegin-dmm-cnet-homing-00

2013-07-25 Thread Alper Yegin
of Science -- Sender: Alper Yegin alper.ye...@yegin.org Receiver: Jouni Korhonen jouni.nos...@gmail.com Copy: dmm@ietf.org dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] comments/questions of draft-yegin-dmm-cnet-homing-00 On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: Alper

Re: [DMM] Preparing for DMM future steps and rechartering

2013-11-22 Thread Alper Yegin
Hi Pete, This obviously wouldn't work for billions of MNs. But, with DMM people are starting to realize that MNs don't need completely stable global addresses that live forever. Most don't, but some do. We need to account for them as well. So I think DMM should focus on localized

Re: [DMM] re-charter text updated

2014-03-20 Thread Alper Yegin
Hi Jouni, On Mar 20, 2014, at 6:03 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: o Mobility state exposing I-D. This would communication between the end host and the network. Maybe also covering the missing parts within the end host.. Are we OK with one I-D or how people want to see this? o .. There's

[DMM] Next-Gen Mobility Protocols and Architectures Webex calls...

2014-03-20 Thread Alper Yegin
Hello folks, Remember I was proposing to have conference calls for people to present their proposals and have discussions around them. Having more discussions would help us make better progress, not only within DMM or other WGs in IETF, but even in larger scale in the industry. Now I'm

Re: [DMM] Next-Gen Mobility Protocols and Architectures Webex calls...

2014-03-24 Thread Alper Yegin
… Alper On Mar 24, 2014, at 5:53 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: Hi Alper, I went to Doodle and noticed that the times have been arranged according to non-North American audience. Was this deliberate? Regards, Behcet On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Alper Yegin alper.ye...@yegin.org

[DMM] Fwd: Invitation to WebEx meeting: Next-Gen Mobility Protocols and Architectures

2014-03-25 Thread Alper Yegin
: Hi, Alper Yegin is inviting you to this WebEx meeting

Re: [DMM] rechartering draft text updated

2014-03-26 Thread Alper Yegin
Hi Jouni, DMM can be used to realise such a distributed deployment model, by distributing forwarding functions at optimal location; for example, closer either to the mobile user or the corresponding node. s/user/node Although the maintenance of stable home address(es)

Re: [DMM] rechartering draft text updated

2014-03-26 Thread Alper Yegin
On Mar 26, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: On Mar 26, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Alper Yegin alper.ye...@yegin.org wrote: Hi Jouni, DMM can be used to realise such a distributed deployment model, by distributing forwarding functions at optimal location; for example

Re: [DMM] rechartering draft text updated

2014-03-27 Thread Alper Yegin
You already have text for that: Forwarding path and signalling management You can use that name for the deliverable. Alper On Mar 26, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Jouni wrote: On Mar 26, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: On Mar 26, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: On Mar 26

Re: [DMM] Invitation to WebEx meeting: Next-Gen Mobility Protocols and Architectures

2014-03-28 Thread Alper Yegin
Ryuji's slides are here: http://yegin.org/NGmobility/20140327-vEPC.pdf On Mar 25, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: Folks, See below for this Friday's Webex call details. Alper Begin forwarded message: Hi, Alper Yegin is inviting you to this WebEx meeting

[DMM] Fwd: Invitation to WebEx meeting: Next-Gen Mobility Protocols and Architectures (Call #2)

2014-04-01 Thread Alper Yegin
: Hi, Alper Yegin is inviting you to this WebEx meeting

Re: [DMM] rechartering draft text updated

2014-04-05 Thread Alper Yegin
the maintenance part. What do the others think? - Jouni On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: Jouni, One more thing: The DMM working group will also work on maintenance-oriented and incremental extensions to the Proxy Mobile IPv6 protocol, specified in RFC

[DMM] Next-Generation Mobility Protocols and Architectures, Call #4

2014-04-25 Thread Alper Yegin
Folks, Charlie will be giving a talk: Wireless handovers: relative importance of various technologies There are two candidate dates. Please register your availability on the following doodle, before the end of next Monday (April 28). http://doodle.com/atpvfek9b2zf5b82 Cheers, Alper

[DMM] Fwd: Invitation to WebEx meeting: Next-Generation Mobility Protocols and Architectures, Call #4

2014-04-29 Thread Alper Yegin
: Hi, Alper Yegin is inviting you to this WebEx meeting

Re: [DMM] Invitation to WebEx meeting: Next-Generation Mobility Protocols and Architectures, Call #4

2014-05-05 Thread Alper Yegin
Folks, You can find Charlie's slides at: http://yegin.org/NGmobility/Why802-May2014.pptx Alper On Apr 29, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: Folks, Please see below for the details of the upcoming Next-Generation Mobility Protocols and Architectures call. Cheers, Alper

Re: [DMM] 回复: DMM gap discussion Invitation to WebEx meeting: Next-Generation Mobility Protocols and Architectures, Call #4

2014-05-14 Thread Alper Yegin
-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analy...@tools.ietf.org; 'Alper Yegin'; pierrick.se...@orange.com Subject: 答复: Mail regarding draft-ietf-dmm-best-practices-gap-analysis Hello Charlie, Please let us know whether the following answer address your concern: 1.In my understanding, PMIP/DSMIP

Re: [DMM] rechartering

2014-05-28 Thread Alper Yegin
Inter-working between mobility functions and network nodes, e.g. routers, requires the use of some non-mobility protocol. DMM should at least describe which states (identifiers, locator addresses/IDs, ..) to expose through these protocols. That's what I understood behind mobility state

Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..

2014-06-06 Thread Alper Yegin
to the mobile node and its applications from the network. I suppose this clarifies that the “anchor re-selection” can apply to a single session also? BR, John -Original Message- From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alper Yegin Sent: Friday, June 06

Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..

2014-06-07 Thread Alper Yegin
– the current text would support a solution regardless of the specific scenario/design. But, if it the text is being interpreted in a specific way, I don’t have any serious reservations against clarification. Best Regards, John From: Alper Yegin [mailto:alper.ye...@yegin.org] Sent

Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..

2014-06-08 Thread Alper Yegin
Can someone clarify the intent of that text? Alper On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Jouni wrote: Ack. John Alper, any specific wording you want to clarify? - Jouni On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Alper Yegin wrote: Hi John, In that case we need a clarification and refinement

Re: [DMM] 回复: :[meeting minutes] Teleconference

2014-06-09 Thread Alper Yegin
(even if it became clearer to the meeting participants…). Alper On Jun 8, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Dapeng Liu wrote: Hello All, The meeting minutes of Friday teleconference is enclosed. -- Dapeng Liu 在 2014年6月8日 星期日,0:39,Alper Yegin 写道: 11pm pacific is 2am east coast us…. not good

Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..

2014-06-09 Thread Alper Yegin
On Jun 9, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Jouni wrote: On Jun 9, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Weixinpeng wrote: Hi Jouni, all, .The protocol solutions should be based on existing IP mobility protocols, either host- or network-based, such as Mobile IPv6 [RFC6275, ], Proxy Mobile IPv6

[DMM] anchor re-selection (was Re: draft charter text updates in github..)

2014-06-09 Thread Alper Yegin
) as a DMM solution, or something that would co-exist with DMM solutions… Alper On Jun 9, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Jouni wrote: On Jun 6, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: Hello Jouni, DMM folks, We better clarify what anchor re-selection stands for. If it is about selecting different

Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..

2014-06-09 Thread Alper Yegin
: On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: Hi John, My reading of that sentence is different. To me it says We cannot assume that the solutions we are developing would be available on all networks across the Internet. The highlighted text intend to say: unless the mobile node

Re: [DMM] anchor re-selection (was Re: draft charter text updates in github..)

2014-06-09 Thread Alper Yegin
: Alper, 6/9/2014 4:21 PM, Alper Yegin kirjoitti: Jouni, OK, let's go with the PMIP example…. Let's say there's an ongoing flow, Flow1, via MAG1 and LMA1. You are talking about switching LMA2 with LMA1, while maintaining MAG1 and not breaking Flow1 (i.e., retaining the same IP address

[DMM] Next-Generation Mobility Protocols and Architectures, Call #5

2014-06-10 Thread Alper Yegin
Hello Folks, Pierrick will be giving a talk on Next-Generation POP in the context of mobility management. Please register your availability on the following doodle before the end of Thursday. http://doodle.com/v584xke9qpzdnyfa Cheers, Alper ___

Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..

2014-06-11 Thread Alper Yegin
/2014 5:37 PM, Alper Yegin kirjoitti: Hello Jouni, DMM folks, We better clarify what anchor re-selection stands for. If it is about selecting different anchors for different IP flows, that's one thing. If it is about changing the IP anchor in the middle of an IP flow, that's another thing

Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..

2014-06-11 Thread Alper Yegin
. Opinions? - Jouni 6/6/2014 5:37 PM, Alper Yegin kirjoitti: Hello Jouni, DMM folks, We better clarify what anchor re-selection stands for. If it is about selecting different anchors for different IP flows, that's one thing. If it is about changing the IP anchor in the middle

Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..

2014-06-12 Thread Alper Yegin
solutions. I presume these 3 items map to the those two bullets in the charter. Right? I cannot clearly tell the mapping though. Alper On Jun 12, 2014, at 12:14 AM, Jouni wrote: Alper, On Jun 11, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: Hi Jouni, o Enhanced mobility anchoring: define

Re: [DMM] draft charter text updates in github..

2014-06-13 Thread Alper Yegin
protocol is known - PMIP, and the solution aims to distribution within PMIP's boundaries. What is unclear here? Jouni -- Jouni Korhonen Broadcom (Sent from my mobile..) Alper Yegin alper.ye...@yegin.org kirjoitti 12.6.2014 kello 9.09: Jouni, Based on earlier discussions

Re: [DMM] Next-Generation Mobility Protocols and Architectures, Call #5

2014-06-13 Thread Alper Yegin
Doodle poll is closed. Majority has preferred Wednesday, July 2, 4pm Central European Time. Please mark your calendars. Webex call details will come later… Cheers, Alper On Jun 10, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Alper Yegin wrote: Hello Folks, Pierrick will be giving a talk on Next-Generation

[DMM] Fwd: IETF 90 Preliminary Agenda

2014-06-23 Thread Alper Yegin
How are we going to make progress on solution discussions when all we have is a single 2-hr session for the whole DMM WG? Begin forwarded message: From: IETF Agenda age...@ietf.org Subject: IETF 90 Preliminary Agenda Date: June 23, 2014 10:16:20 PM GMT+03:00 To: IETF Announcement List

[DMM] Next-Generation Mobility Protocols and Architectures, Call #6

2014-06-30 Thread Alper Yegin
Hello folks, Pierrick will be giving another talk, this one titled IP Mobility Protocols for Multihomed Residential Gateways (RG) in Fixed Networks. I've setup a doodle for determining the time slot: http://doodle.com/733h3d9drdz78i2d Register your available times on the doodle no later then

[DMM] Invitation to WebEx meeting: Next-Generation Mobility Protocols and Architectures, Call #5

2014-07-01 Thread Alper Yegin
ed message: Hi, Alper Yegin is inviting you to this Web

[DMM] draft-yegin-ip-mobility-orchestrator-00.txt

2014-07-04 Thread Alper Yegin
Hello DMMers, We have a new I-D for your reading and discussion. Title : IP Mobility Orchestrator Authors : Alper Yegin Jungshin Park Kisuk Kweon Jinsung Lee Filename : draft-yegin-ip-mobility-orchestrator-00.txt

[DMM] draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility-02.txt

2014-07-04 Thread Alper Yegin
Reply-To: internet-dra...@ietf.org A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : On Demand Mobility Management Authors : Alper Yegin Kisuk Kweon Jinsung Lee

Re: [DMM] Next-Generation Mobility Protocols and Architectures, Call #6

2014-07-04 Thread Alper Yegin
Folks, Doodle is closed. The most popular date was July 17, 4pm CET. Please mark your calendars. Alper On Jun 30, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: Hello folks, Pierrick will be giving another talk, this one titled IP Mobility Protocols for Multihomed Residential Gateways (RG

Re: [DMM] draft-yegin-ip-mobility-orchestrator-00.txt

2014-07-09 Thread Alper Yegin
is used to discovery CN’s mobility capability? Could be explain how it works? We are thinking of defining new DNS resource records to store mobility capability in DNS. Alper Thanks! Best Regards, Xinpeng From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alper Yegin Sent: Friday, July

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-12 Thread Alper Yegin
Sri and Marco, Is any of what you are describing captured in the existing drafts? If so, please provide the pointers. Alper On Jul 11, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) wrote: Hi Marco, I think we may have to qualify the term anchor. In our conf calls we used the terms,

[DMM] DMM solution space

2014-07-12 Thread Alper Yegin
Folks, I went over the solutions and categorized them. I haven't covered all of the solutions (due to lack of time). For any I-D that is missing, please state the name and where you think it belongs to. When we agree with the categorization and the candidates for each, then we can proceed to

Re: [DMM] draft-yegin-ip-mobility-orchestrator-00.txt

2014-07-16 Thread Alper Yegin
connection. But, it can maintain its previous IP address with the help of a tunnel between the s-GW and the MN or t-GW. This is what we call access network anchoring. Alper - Jouni 7/4/2014 10:10 AM, Alper Yegin kirjoitti: Hello DMMers, We have a new I-D for your reading and discussion

Re: [DMM] Invitation to WebEx meeting: Next-Generation Mobility Protocols and Architectures, Call #6

2014-07-16 Thread Alper Yegin
Slides are at: http://yegin.org/NGmobility/MultihomedRG_DMM.pdf On Jul 16, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Alper Yegin wrote: Folks, Tomorrow's presentation is IP Mobility Protocols for Multihomed Residential Gateways (RG) in Fixed Networks by Pierrick. See below for the Webex details. Alper

Re: [DMM] draft-yegin-ip-mobility-orchestrator-00.txt

2014-07-16 Thread Alper Yegin
-GW was lost, it does not imply discarding the IP from the interface.. Yes, we can elaborate on that. Thanks. Alper - Jouni Alper - Jouni 7/4/2014 10:10 AM, Alper Yegin kirjoitti: Hello DMMers, We have a new I-D for your reading and discussion. Title

[DMM] WG adoption (was Re: DMM solution space)

2014-07-17 Thread Alper Yegin
Folks, Let's change gears. We'd like to propose draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility-02 for WG adoption. This draft falls under the following deliverable: Exposing mobility state to mobile nodes and network nodes: define solutions that allow, for example, mobile nodes to select

Re: [DMM] WG adoption (was Re: DMM solution space)

2014-07-17 Thread Alper Yegin
on the mailing list and make WG adoption official. We should progress… Alper On Jul 17, 2014, at 7:03 PM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: Alper, The charter text you cite is not approved yet. I-D adoption requests at this point are premature. - Jouni 7/17/2014 9:19 AM, Alper Yegin kirjoitti

Re: [DMM] IETF 90 Preliminary Agenda

2014-07-17 Thread Alper Yegin
make sure you stay within your allocated time slot with your powerpoint marathon and actually have some time left for the QA. - Jouni Dapeng 6/24/2014 12:22 AM, Behcet Sarikaya kirjoitti: Friday (after)noon session :) On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Alper Yegin alper.ye...@yegin.org

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-17 Thread Alper Yegin
Intense reading… :-) Lot of abstractions, which I can only follow by relating to specific solutions. In my understanding, what Sri is describing is about how to apply UP/CP separation to various DMM solutions. In the examples I see a number of DMM solutions defined with UP/CP separation using

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-17 Thread Alper Yegin
discussing is a solution approach which has the essential properties of CP/DP separation, aspect of optimized/stateless data plane, application specific gateway allocations .. etc and that at the end is an approach for realizing DMM. Sri On 7/17/14 10:59 AM, Alper Yegin alper.ye

Re: [DMM] WG adoption (was Re: DMM solution space)

2014-07-17 Thread Alper Yegin
draft-mccann-dmm-flatarch-00 Alper The issue seems to be charter approval. Sri On 7/17/14 11:04 AM, Alper Yegin alper.ye...@yegin.org wrote: Why? Why not make technical progress at every opportunity? This extreme serialization and every step overly stretchingŠ. am I

Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering

2014-07-17 Thread Alper Yegin
-14AA394AEDEE.png Sri From: Alper Yegin alper.ye...@yegin.org Date: Thursday, July 17, 2014 12:39 PM To: Sri Gundavelli sgund...@cisco.com Cc: Marco Liebsch marco.lieb...@neclab.eu, dmm@ietf.org dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] demand for DMM traffic steering Sri, PMIP is a solution. You

Re: [DMM] How to progress DMM (was Re: demand for DMM traffic steering)

2014-07-19 Thread Alper Yegin
AM, Alper Yegin wrote: I agree that the discussions were kept at a high level. But as I noted then and now, I disagree with still keeping the discussions at high level… It's still hovering at 10k feet... If we want to make real progress, we need to start bringing the discussion to low

[DMM] DMM solution space categorization

2014-07-19 Thread Alper Yegin
I've updated the list with the I-Ds suggested by Behcet/Fred/Jouni. Please see below for my opinions about how each category relates to the overall work. Comments welcome. 1. Per-flow IP address configuration according to mobility needs Apps indicating their mobility needs to the IP stack

Re: [DMM] DMM solution space categorization

2014-07-21 Thread Alper Yegin
below: 7/19/2014 11:44 AM, Alper Yegin kirjoitti: * * I've updated the list with the I-Ds suggested by Behcet/Fred/Jouni. Please see below for my opinions about how each category relates to the overall work. Comments welcome. * * * * *1. Per-flow IP address configuration according

Re: [DMM] regarding the re-chartering..

2014-07-25 Thread Alper Yegin
I may be interpreting the charter incorrectly, but I think there may be a disconnect. I interpreted the the charter text as describing deployment models like: - Wi-Fi-based mobility management - Cellular (e.g., 3GPP) mobility management - Mixed technology mobility management - etc.

Re: [DMM] re-chartering telce #1

2014-07-29 Thread Alper Yegin
Actually, according to IETF rules, we even need a 2-week notice. http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/interim-meetings.html Conference calls and jabber sessions must be announced at least two weeks prior to the event. Alper On Jul 28, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: Wow

Re: [DMM] regarding the re-chartering..

2014-08-05 Thread Alper Yegin
Hello, Thank you Kostas for this rewrite. The charter reads better now. Please see below for few comments. On Jul 30, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: Folks, A major rewrite of the charter is in github (and below). Thanks to Kostas providing excellent feedbask on the text.

[DMM] 3GPP CSIPTO

2014-09-01 Thread Alper Yegin
Dear DMMers, Here's an update on 3GPP SA1 CSIPTO work… Two weeks ago there was an SA1 meeting (SA1#67), and in that meeting SA1 has completed the CSIPTO normative work. As you might remember, SA1 is in charge of defining service requirements. The next step for CSIPTO is to initiate a work item

Re: [DMM] 3GPP CSIPTO

2014-09-01 Thread Alper Yegin
Is this to minimize the states in the network, or is the intention to limit the control-plane signaling with the mobile device to setup/teardown the connection? Thanks for your feedback in advance, marco From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alper Yegin Sent: Montag, 1. September

[DMM] APIs

2014-09-03 Thread Alper Yegin
Folks, There was discussion about necessity of APIs for DMM yesterday. Let's continue that discussion here. It is true that IETF's primary focus is protocol design. But when it's necessary, IETF also defines APIs. See, IPv6 basic socket API, for example. And, as a very relevant item, see RFC

Re: [DMM] regarding the re-chartering..

2014-09-05 Thread Alper Yegin
Alex, DMM is not meant to be only about a bunch of MIP-based solutions. There are various components in DMM solution space that'd also work with GTP-based architectures. For example, identifying the mobility needs of flows. Or, conveying the mobility characteristic of a prefix to the UE. Alper

Re: [DMM] regarding the re-chartering..

2014-09-05 Thread Alper Yegin
From meeting minutes: (Jouni) I suggest that we left the bullet as a work item and we do not have explicit milestone for it. we can add this milestone when we actually see that there is something meaningful forming for that document. The decision at the meeting was to leave the work item in

Re: [DMM] regarding the re-chartering..

2014-09-05 Thread Alper Yegin
Hi Alex, On Sep 5, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Le 05/09/2014 10:48, Alper Yegin a écrit : Alex, DMM is not meant to be only about a bunch of MIP-based solutions. There are various components in DMM solution space that'd also work with GTP-based architectures. For example

Re: [DMM] regarding the re-chartering..

2014-09-06 Thread Alper Yegin
Alex, The most robust way is to let the application tell the IP stack. http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility-02.txt Sounds reasonable. A complimentary means is to look at this as a source address selection problem: given two addresses configured on an interface

[DMM] MIP and GTP (was Re: regarding the re-chartering..)

2014-09-06 Thread Alper Yegin
-revive a draft stating this in more detail? Regards, Charlie P. On 9/5/2014 1:48 AM, Alper Yegin wrote: Alex, DMM is not meant to be only about a bunch of MIP-based solutions. There are various components in DMM solution space that'd also work with GTP-based architectures. For example

Re: [DMM] A Day in the Life of an Enterprise Mobile Device User

2014-09-11 Thread Alper Yegin
: Re: [DMM] A Day in the Life of an Enterprise Mobile Device User Le 04/09/2014 08:47, Alper Yegin a écrit : Hi Fred, Can this scenario not be realized by simply placing an HA in the enterprise network and using Mobile IP? I guess yes and no. YEs, in that it is a typical Mobile IP

Re: [DMM] DMM Interim call #2 - agenda forming

2014-09-11 Thread Alper Yegin
Folks, Here's a proposal for scoping out the DMM work and identifying areas to tackle. http://yegin.org/NGmobility/IETF_DMM_WG_work_scoping.pptx I can present this at the upcoming DMM call. It'd be very good if people can read and send comments/questions on the list in advance. Cheers, Alper

Re: [DMM] Mobility exposure selection WT call

2014-10-13 Thread Alper Yegin
-yegin-ip-mobility-orchestrator-00 (Presentation:http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-dmm-7.pdf)Cheers,AlperBegin forwarded message:From: Alper Yegin via Cisco WebEx ad...@webex.comSubject: Invitation to WebEx meeting: IETF DMM Mobility Exposure Selection WT callDate: October 13, 2014 11

[DMM] Forwarding Path Signaling Management discussion

2014-10-16 Thread Alper Yegin
Hello folks, Here are few clarification questions and comments on the Forwarding Path Signaling Management WT discussion material (oh, maybe it's time we start numbering these WTs :-) http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2014/10/07/dmm/slides/slides-interim-2014-dmm-3-1.pdf - Are we not

Re: [DMM] Forwarding Path Signaling Management discussion

2014-10-16 Thread Alper Yegin
, Alper Yegin alper.ye...@yegin.org wrote: Hello folks, Here are few clarification questions and comments on the Forwarding Path Signaling Management WT discussion material (oh, maybe it's time we start numbering these WTs :-) http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2014/10/07/dmm/slides

[DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call#1

2014-10-23 Thread Alper Yegin
Folks, We held our first meeting on Mobility Exposure and Selection WT today. The meeting was attended by: Fred, Danny, Jouni, Xinpeng, Anthony, John K., Byoung-Jo J, Alper. You can see the outcome of the first call as captured in the following PPT:

[DMM] Scheduling Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call#2

2014-10-23 Thread Alper Yegin
Folks, Let's schedule the second call on the week before IETF (as we discussed in call#1). Please fill in this doodle no later than the end of Monday (Oct 27). http://doodle.com/etb6asznw8taggzq I know Marco is arranging a call for the other WT. I'll make sure we don't conflict with their's

Re: [DMM] Scheduling Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call#2

2014-10-30 Thread Alper Yegin
. Alper On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: Folks, Let's schedule the second call on the week before IETF (as we discussed in call#1). Please fill in this doodle no later than the end of Monday (Oct 27). http://doodle.com/etb6asznw8taggzq I know Marco is arranging

[DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call#2

2014-11-06 Thread Alper Yegin
Today we held the second call on DMM Mobility Exposure and Selection. Attendees: Danny, Pierrick, Sri, Byoung-Jo J, Alper Outcome of the call is captured in the following slides: http://yegin.org/NGmobility/DMM_WG_Exposure_Selection_WT-Call2-r1.pptx Questions/comments welcome. Alper

Re: [DMM] Data-Plane anchors in a control-/data-plane separated deyploment

2014-12-19 Thread Alper Yegin
I agree, anchor is not the right term. We can go with DPN or DPE. A node is said to have DPN functionality if it can apply special forwarding policy to a set of nodes (as opposed to forwarding traffic based on aggregate routes, as a plain router would do). The policy is provided by a

Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call

2015-02-13 Thread Alper Yegin
with the API). We intend to schedule that one in about 2 weeks. Alper On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Alper Yegin wrote: Folks, See below for the Webex details. Remember, the call is on Tue, Feb 10, at 4pm CET. And don't forget to read the documents in the reading list prior

Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call

2015-02-13 Thread Alper Yegin
it there. The I-D is a short reading. Alper Thanks, marco From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alper Yegin Sent: Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2015 12:43 To: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call Hello, Yesterday's call was attended by: Danny

Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call

2015-02-19 Thread Alper Yegin
to schedule that one in about 2 weeks. Alper On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Alper Yegin wrote: Folks, See below for the Webex details. Remember, the call is on Tue, Feb 10, at 4pm CET. And don't forget to read the documents in the reading list prior to the call. Attendees

Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call

2015-01-27 Thread Alper Yegin
-88-dmm-8.pdf 5. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-dmm-mobility-api-02 Alper On Jan 23, 2015, at 3:28 PM, Alper Yegin wrote: Folks, Please mark your availability on the following doodle for our next DMM WG Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call: http://doodle.com

Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call#5

2015-02-14 Thread Alper Yegin
I see very light participation in Doodle. Is there a particular reason? Let me extend the Doodle deadline to end of Monday, Feb 16. http://doodle.com/b67r4bgcefeczbms Hopefully more people will join the poll and the subsequent call. Alper On Feb 11, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Alper Yegin wrote

Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call

2015-02-11 Thread Alper Yegin
in about 2 weeks. Alper On Feb 9, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Alper Yegin wrote: Folks, See below for the Webex details. Remember, the call is on Tue, Feb 10, at 4pm CET. And don't forget to read the documents in the reading list prior to the call. Attendees shall read the following material

[DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call#5

2015-02-11 Thread Alper Yegin
Folks, Here's the doodle for setting the date for our next call. In this call we'll discuss items #2 and #3, which involve the IP address configuration enhancements to support the on-demand mobility API. item #2. Describe how IP address type information is conveyed from network to MN. item

Re: [DMM] WG adoption for draft-yegin-ondemand-mobility-03

2015-03-20 Thread Alper Yegin
for later update with more refined types) Best Regards Dirk From: Alper Yegin [mailto:alper.ye...@yegin.org] Sent: Donnerstag, 19. März 2015 19:04 To: von Hugo, Dirk Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] WG adoption for draft-yegin-ondemand-mobility-03 Hello Dirk, Thanks

Re: [DMM] WG adoption for draft-yegin-ondemand-mobility-03

2015-03-19 Thread Alper Yegin
a HoA from a centrally-located Home = The mobile host configures a HoA from a centrally-located Home Thanks! Thank you! Alper Best Regards Dirk From: dmm [mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alper Yegin Sent: Mittwoch, 18. März 2015 10:54 To: dmm@ietf.org Subject: [DMM] WG

Re: [DMM] 回复: DMM API

2015-03-25 Thread Alper Yegin
elaborate. Alper Dapeng Alper -- Dapeng Liu 在 2015年3月25日 星期三,下午2:02,Alper Yegin 写道: Hello Dapeng and Alex, I hope you had a chance to digest our responses to your comments and questions about the API work. If you have any remaining issues, please let us know over

Re: [DMM] New Version Notification for draft-sijeon-dmm-use-cases-api-source-00.txt

2015-03-04 Thread Alper Yegin
Hello Seil, As I understand, this new flag helps apps tell the IP stack to configure a new/additional IP address even if the IP stack is already configured with there requested type address. It'd be good to spell this out in the I-D. And also, it'd be good to explain why this might be needed,

Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call#5

2015-02-23 Thread Alper Yegin
to record the meeting./FONT/FONT SUMMARY:DMM Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call#5 PRIORITY:5 CLASS:PUBLIC BEGIN:VALARM TRIGGER:-PT5M ACTION:DISPLAY DESCRIPTION:Reminder END:VALARM END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Alper Yegin wrote:OK, poll is closed.The call will be on Feb 24

Re: [DMM] Mobility Exposure and Selection WT call

2015-02-24 Thread Alper Yegin
Hello, Today's call was attended by: Danny, Byoung-Jo Kim, Jouni, Seil, Sergio Figueiredo, Sri, John K., and Alper. Slides (including notes) can be found at: http://yegin.org/NGMobility/DMM_WG_Exposure_Selection_WT-Call4.pptx Questions/comments welcome. Alper

Re: [DMM] Re: DMM API

2015-03-26 Thread Alper Yegin
IP Address, then I believe the developer would always wants to use the Fixed IP address, rather than the other ones. Because even though the application could cope with IP address change, but the IP address change is not what the application want. -Xinpeng 发件人: Alper Yegin

Re: [DMM] DMM work teams

2015-03-26 Thread Alper Yegin
Hi Xinpeng, On Mar 26, 2015, at 10:49 PM, Weixinpeng (Jackie) wrote: I think it's good to start serval work teams to process the work. If there are some people complain about this, I think the reason would be that it might be not convient for them to participate in the online interim

Re: [DMM] DMM work teams

2015-03-26 Thread Alper Yegin
[mailto:dmm-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Alper Yegin 发送时间: 2015年3月27日, 星期五 5:20 收件人: Weixinpeng (Jackie) 抄送: dmm@ietf.org 主题: Re: [DMM] DMM work teams Hi Xinpeng, On Mar 26, 2015, at 10:49 PM, Weixinpeng (Jackie) wrote: I think it's good to start serval work teams to process the work

Re: [DMM] Re: DMM API

2015-03-26 Thread Alper Yegin
the application could cope with IP address change, but the IP address change is not what the application want. -Xinpeng 发件人: Alper Yegin [alper.ye...@yegin.org] 发送时间: 2015年3月27日 2:13 收件人: Weixinpeng (Jackie) 抄送: Dapeng Liu; dmm@ietf.org 主题: Re: Re: DMM API Hi Xinpeng, If your

Re: [DMM] 回复: DMM API

2015-03-25 Thread Alper Yegin
used in most cases. If this is the case, why we need a new name for it? If you don't name it, how would you refer to it in this context? Alper -- Dapeng Liu 在 2015年3月25日 星期三,下午2:02,Alper Yegin 写道: Hello Dapeng and Alex, I hope you had a chance to digest our responses

Re: [DMM] 回复: 回复: Call for adoption: draft-yegin-dmm-ondemand-mobility-03

2015-04-17 Thread Alper Yegin
Hi Dapeng, [as an individual contributor] I support the idea of “Exposing mobility state to mobile nodes and network nodes” as described in our charter. For this particular draft, after some offline discussion with the authors, I still have the following comments/suggestions: 1.

Re: [DMM] [dmm] #49 (ondemand-mobility): full on-demand mobility support

2015-06-03 Thread Alper Yegin
for your elaboration. Regards, Seil From: Alper Yegin [mailto:alper.ye...@yegin.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 7:03 AM To: Seil Jeon Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] [dmm] #49 (ondemand-mobility): full on-demand mobility support So, the idea is, when this flag

Re: [DMM] [dmm] #49 (ondemand-mobility): full on-demand mobility support

2015-06-03 Thread Alper Yegin
, at 2:11 AM, Seil Jeon wrote: Hi Alper, Regards, Seil -Original Message- From: Alper Yegin [mailto:alper.ye...@yegin.org] Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 8:50 PM To: Seil Jeon Cc: dmm@ietf.org Subject: Re: [DMM] [dmm] #49 (ondemand-mobility): full on-demand mobility support

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