Re: [DNG] any gotchas in a new install?

2022-06-20 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 19/6/22 01:57, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Am having entirely too much fun (doa psu followed by the mobo) but > hoping to be very soon installing Devuan testing (daedalus - - - - > sic!) on a AMD 5800X cpu with a Radeon 570X gpu. > > When I've been looking for info there seems

Re: [DNG] Shutdown/halt versus WiFi and NFS

2022-05-28 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 28/5/22 18:44, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 28-05-2022 10:23, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: >> On 24/9/20 03:55, Michael S. Keller via Dng wrote: >>> My desktop is running Chimaera, and I saw this with Beowulf, but didn't >>> spend much time on it then. >>> &

Re: [DNG] Shutdown/halt versus WiFi and NFS

2022-05-28 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 24/9/20 03:55, Michael S. Keller via Dng wrote: > My desktop is running Chimaera, and I saw this with Beowulf, but didn't spend > much time on it then. > > My network connection is via WiFi, and I have permanent NFS mounts in place. > I run SysV init. > > During halt or shutdown via init

Re: [DNG] Beowulf to Chimaera update breaks suspend on laptop

2022-04-09 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 7/4/22 20:58, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > G'day, > > I could use a bit of advice if anyone has the relevant experience. > > My laptop is running Devuan Beowulf currently, but this suspend config goes > back at least 10 years. > It suspends / hibernates using pm-utils

Re: [DNG] Beowulf to Chimaera update breaks suspend on laptop

2022-04-08 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 8/4/22 07:45, Adrian Zaugg wrote: > Hi Brad > > In der Nachricht vom Thursday, 7 April 2022 14:58:36 CEST schrieb Brad > Campbell via Dng: >> So, I'm asking for either : >> - Experience in making the in-kernel mechanisms work; or preferably > Updating the BIO

Re: [DNG] Beowulf to Chimaera update breaks suspend on laptop

2022-04-07 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 8/4/22 08:15, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > afaik on chimaera xfce4 relies on elogind for handling "suspend on lid > close", and this is something you may disable by a slight edit of > /etc/elogind/logind.conf, to have the three assignments: > HandleLidSwitch=ignore >

[DNG] Beowulf to Chimaera update breaks suspend on laptop

2022-04-07 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
G'day, I could use a bit of advice if anyone has the relevant experience. My laptop is running Devuan Beowulf currently, but this suspend config goes back at least 10 years. It suspends / hibernates using pm-utils with the uswsusp back-end onto a dmycrypted swap partition. The kernel is

Re: [DNG] Installing on a Raspberry or a Banana?

2022-02-08 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 8/2/22 5:17 am, Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 07 February 2022 at 22:14:32, d...@d404.nl wrote: > >> On 07-02-2022 22:03, Antony Stone wrote: >>> >>> I want to install Devuan on a Raspberry Pi Zero W, and also on a Banana >>> Pi R1. > >> Last time I needed an RPi image I used this link >>

Re: [DNG] [OT] Jörg Schilling has passed away

2021-10-12 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 12/10/21 04:16, Steve Litt wrote: hal said on Mon, 11 Oct 2021 10:59:26 -0500 Just thought I'd mention it. There was a time when Jörg's software was the only way to burn a CD on Solaris. I was grateful for his contributions as it saved me a lot of time moving things to tape. RIP Jörg, and

Re: [DNG] random sudden stops

2021-08-25 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 26/8/21 8:10 am, Hendrik Boom wrote: > For the past few months my home server (running an ascii installation > physically moved from another computer) has been suddenly stopping all > processing about once a month. apparently at random. It seems to stop > instantly, leaving power on and

Re: [DNG] Err; hardware!

2021-08-08 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 9/8/21 8:13 am, terryc wrote: > On Sat, 7 Aug 2021 18:36:19 +0800 > Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > >> >> I honestly can't see who in their right mind would use a base system >> of that age, > > > My 2c, hardware? > > If it has lasted that long,

Re: [DNG] ..a viable basis for Devuan as a hypervisor?, was: libvirt package without X11 and DBus

2021-08-08 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 7/8/21 4:25 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > <4f39fd8f-64a5-4488-6640-668d3ceec...@fnarfbargle.com>: > >> I'm still running my self-compiled libvirt because I've progressively >> upgraded from Debian Wheezy > > ..dangit, you started precisely where we|Devuan _should_ have started. > Too lazy to

Re: [DNG] ..a viable basis for Devuan as a hypervisor?, was: libvirt package without X11 and DBus

2021-08-08 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 7/8/21 5:26 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Fri, 6 Aug 2021 20:20:15 +0800, Brad wrote in message > : > >> On 6/8/21 5:12 pm, Andrzej Peszynski wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 06.08.2021 06:25, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: >>>> >>>>

Re: [DNG] ..a viable basis for Devuan as a hypervisor?, was: libvirt package without X11 and DBus

2021-08-06 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 6/8/21 5:12 pm, Andrzej Peszynski wrote: > > > On 06.08.2021 06:25, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: >> >> Why do you even need/want libvirt? I have several machines which run qemu >> guests just using simple bash scripts to bring them up (and all the bash >&g

Re: [DNG] ..a viable basis for Devuan as a hypervisor?, was: libvirt package without X11 and DBus

2021-08-05 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 6/8/21 1:04 am, AP wrote: On 05.08.2021 12:37, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..any of you guys wanting to package what you have running? To me, this sounds like a viable basis for the bare metal hypervisor idea in the "[DNG] Devuan as a hypervisor?" thread. I like the idea of this, if the DEVUAN

Re: [DNG] ..a viable basis for Devuan as a hypervisor?, was: libvirt package without X11 and DBus

2021-08-05 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 5/8/21 6:37 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 11:13:06 +0800, Brad wrote in message > <184151f6-16e3-f59c-1d07-47394f30f...@fnarfbargle.com>: > >> On 5/8/21 4:40 am, AP wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> first I thank all DEVUAN people for the pure pleasure of running my >>> system

Re: [DNG] libvirt package without X11 and DBus

2021-08-04 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 5/8/21 4:40 am, AP wrote: Hi everyone, first I thank all DEVUAN people for the pure pleasure of running my system (since ASCII 2018) without a bloatware. This is my first message and I am sorry, that my search did not give me the answer about: maintenance of the libvirt package without

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade borked with eudev

2021-08-03 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 3/8/21 1:32 pm, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: On 11/5/21 12:57 pm, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: G'day all, I use a self-compiled kernel (v5.10) at the moment. An Ascii to Beowulf upgrade died early on because the eudev preinst script isn't correctly parsing /proc/kallsyms. Preparing

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade borked with eudev

2021-08-03 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 11/5/21 12:57 pm, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: > G'day all, > > I use a self-compiled kernel (v5.10) at the moment. > An Ascii to Beowulf upgrade died early on because the eudev preinst script > isn't correctly parsing /proc/kallsyms. > > Preparing to unpack

Re: [DNG] Beowulf; Increasing the number of boot options under grub. How To?

2021-05-18 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 17/5/21 9:31 pm, terryc wrote: > I am hoping there is a simple config/number change in the grub > config files, but I can not find it in the doco I've read. > > In the past, the list of kernel images just grew each time you > loaded/updated the linux-image files. But the current system >

Re: [DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade borked with eudev

2021-05-11 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 11/5/21 2:36 pm, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 11/05/2021 à 06:57, Brad Campbell via Dng a écrit : G'day all, I use a self-compiled kernel (v5.10) at the moment. An Ascii to Beowulf upgrade died early on because the eudev preinst script isn't correctly parsing /proc/kallsyms. Preparing to unpack

[DNG] Ascii to Beowulf upgrade borked with eudev

2021-05-10 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
G'day all, I use a self-compiled kernel (v5.10) at the moment. An Ascii to Beowulf upgrade died early on because the eudev preinst script isn't correctly parsing /proc/kallsyms. Preparing to unpack .../25-eudev_3.2.9-8~beowulf1_amd64.deb ... Since release 198, udev requires support for the

Re: [DNG] exim4 packages 4.92-8+deb10u6 in beowulf-security?

2021-05-07 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 8/5/21 11:13 am, Gastón via Dng wrote: > On Sat, May 08, 2021 at 10:20:23AM +0800, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: >> On 7/5/21 2:21 pm, Thomas Besser via Dng wrote: >>> Am 06.05.21 um 20:53 schrieb Ludovic Bellière: >>>> You mean this[1] package? >>>>

Re: [DNG] exim4 packages 4.92-8+deb10u6 in beowulf-security?

2021-05-07 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 7/5/21 2:21 pm, Thomas Besser via Dng wrote: > Am 06.05.21 um 20:53 schrieb Ludovic Bellière: >> You mean this[1] package? >> >> [1]: >> https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package=exim4=4.92-8+deb10u6 > > It's a platform independent ('all') package. > > Look at >

Re: [DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

2021-05-07 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 29/4/21 8:14 pm, tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > by looking at the latest git code: > > static const struct op operators[] ALIGN_PTR = { > #if ENABLE_FEATURE_DC_LIBM > {"^", power}, > //{"exp", power}, > //{"pow", power}, > #endif > {"%", mod}, > //{"mod", mod}, >

[DNG] Odd issue with busybox dc in beowulf

2021-04-28 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
G'day All, I've upgraded a staging server from Jessie to Beowulf and find a script in my initramfs is now broken, tracking it down it is a huge change in behaviour in the busybox version of dc and I can't find any reference to what I'm missing. Has anyone bumped up against this? I've tried

Re: [DNG] Your system is not supported by certbot-auto anymore.

2020-12-15 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 8/12/20 5:02 pm, Martin Steigerwald wrote: I am still using dehydrated. It is a simple shell script which just depends on curl, openssl and ca-certificates. There is an additional package for apache2 support, which just contains the site configuration for the web challenge thing, and one for

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-09 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 10/9/20 2:04 pm, Simon Walter wrote: On 2020-09-09 15:53, Brad Campbell via Dng wrote: It really doesn't. It'll mark a sector as "pending" (as in, I can't read from it so I'll mark it for later). What does the OS get at this point? Is that a short read error? Yep. I have some

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-09 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 5/9/20 10:38 pm, Simon Walter wrote: On 9/5/20 12:50 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Sat, Sep 05, 2020 at 12:26:21PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: Reallocation, to my knowledge, should happen in the background. It's *possible* that the reallocation event and the FS corruption are unrelated. My

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-09 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 30/8/20 8:19 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote: There's also the badblocks program, which can be set up either to do a nondestructive read-only test for bad blocks, or a more throrough destructive test, where it writes every block and later checks tht it can read it correctly again, using a variety of

Re: [DNG] Can this drive be saved?

2020-09-09 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 5/9/20 10:38 pm, Simon Walter wrote: On 9/5/20 12:50 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: On Sat, Sep 05, 2020 at 12:26:21PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: Reallocation, to my knowledge, should happen in the background. It's *possible* that the reallocation event and the FS corruption are unrelated. My

Re: [DNG] Raspberry Pi 4 (Brad Campbell)

2019-07-07 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
On 6/7/19 21:57, . via Dng wrote: I tried what you've described --- put a fresh copy of "devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img" on an 8GB microSD card, then copied the parts of Raspbian Buster over; but I end up with an error "/sbin/init exists, but is not executable (error -8)", possibly

[DNG] Raspberry Pi 4

2019-07-06 Thread Brad Campbell via Dng
G'day all, I have an old RPI3 running Jessie that I wanted to replace with a 4 (wanted USB3 & GbE) Not wanting to re-configure or re-install I downloaded the latest Raspbian for the Pi4 (Buster) to use for parts. I replaced the boot partition contents straight from the Buster image. Had

Re: [DNG] PostScript vs PCL

2018-03-20 Thread Brad Campbell
On 20/03/18 14:27, Tom wrote: Thanks for the replies. I'm currently using the default ColorMFP PPD driver for a Toshiba e-Studio 3555C printer/copier, and it has a habit of taking 5+ minutes to print a single page. Would I get better results with using a generic PS or PCL driver? What is the

Re: [DNG] Preserving rsync: was systemd local privilege escalation (CVE-2017-18078)

2018-02-07 Thread Brad Campbell
On 08/02/18 02:02, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..ok, I'll bite, I have rsync.git and rsync-web.git cloned, how do I clone rsync-patches.git? git clone git://git.samba.org/rsync-patches.git ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Preserving rsync: was systemd local privilege escalation (CVE-2017-18078)

2018-02-06 Thread Brad Campbell
On 07/02/18 07:10, Steve Litt wrote: According to https://git.samba.org/?p=rsync.git;a=shortlog , it looks to me like poettering has never committed to rsync, so that's good news. LOL, I had to take some flack in order to get that URL from the Samba list, but it's worth it. I'm not trying to

Re: [DNG] Help with Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-17 Thread Brad Campbell
On 17/01/18 23:00, jacksprat wrote: Thanks for the replies.  When I run the "spectre-meltdown-checker.sh" script [github.com/speed47 ] I see that even using a recent kernel [4.15-rc8] only Meltdown is covered. The two mitigations for Spectre [IBRS or kernel compiled

Re: [DNG] Help with Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-17 Thread Brad Campbell
On 18/01/18 08:28, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 09:25:19PM +0800, Tom Cassidy wrote: You can install the intel-microcode package. AMD processors have a similar amd-microcode package. https://packages.debian.org/intel-microcode It looks like the updated microcode with the

Re: [DNG] Backup plans: was Which is free, which is open source, et al.

2018-01-16 Thread Brad Campbell
On 14/01/18 06:30, KatolaZ wrote: The bet ingredient for a successful "Primary Plan" is to assume that there is no backup plan, an act accordingly ;) Quite on the contrary. Having a well formulated and tested backup plan means you won't need it. That applies as well to plans as it does to

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

2017-12-22 Thread Brad Campbell
On 21/12/17 05:13, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: Steve Litt writes: Is there evidence somewhere that Debian DDs use OS/x? It's so common among developers in general that it would be very surprising if zero debianites do it. Macbooks are almost a standard among developers, certainly a majority of

[DNG] Upgrade from Debian Wheezy

2017-07-24 Thread Brad Campbell
G'day All, I have a couple of production machines running Debian 7.11. One of those has a twin I use for staging and I routinely rsync the prod box across to ensure I'm testing in as accurate a replica as I can get. Upgrade time is coming, and I'm migrating to Devuan Jessie. This

Re: [DNG] Linus can no longer trust "init"

2017-07-12 Thread Brad Campbell
On 13/07/17 00:56, Dragan FOSS wrote: On 07/12/2017 07:18 AM, Brad Campbell wrote: Did I miss something Yes.. ;) When I wrote "recommends", and your interpretation of this word is "mandating", I have no choice but to think that your reading system is, to put it mil

Re: [DNG] Linus can no longer trust "init"

2017-07-11 Thread Brad Campbell
On 12/07/17 02:35, Dragan FOSS wrote: On 07/11/2017 05:28 PM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: make it crystal clear: fuck off the upstream. Do you want to say that devuan users do not need any upstream that recommends systemd? For example, Postgresql? *** With PostgreSQL 9.6 or newer,

Re: [DNG] A nice write-up.

2017-04-23 Thread Brad Campbell
On 23/04/17 17:33, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/22/devuan_1_0_0_released/ The comments are more entertaining. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

2017-03-14 Thread Brad Campbell
On 14/03/17 19:19, m wrote: hi there, do u know privoxy? its a filtering proxy :-) m. +10 for privoxy. Does a great job of ad-removal for me and one instance does the whole house :) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

2016-12-19 Thread Brad Campbell
On 20/12/16 06:08, marc wrote: Hi devuanfanboy, Thanks but no, that dind't work. I have also had an interesting time getting the devuan beta to run with a newer kernel. In my case I have forgone the entire initrd, and built the newest stable kernel from kernel.org with the necessary drivers

Re: [DNG] I ask Devuan to remove all defaming emails.

2016-11-30 Thread Brad Campbell
On 30/11/16 15:35, Edward Bartolo wrote: Sir, I am asking the Devuan Administration to delete and destroy all defaming emails on DNG as they infringe upon the (Personal) Data Protection Act. In those threads, I never approved my abilities or their lack to be discussed, yet, abusive respondents,

Re: [DNG] Kernel error requesting UEFI upgrade.

2016-09-20 Thread Brad Campbell
as suggested. Thanks. On 20/09/2016, Brad Campbell <lists2...@fnarfbargle.com> wrote: On 19/09/16 22:53, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi, If DNG administrators consider this email not appropriate for the list, please delete it. A kernel error is requesting me to upgrade my HP Probook 4540

Re: [DNG] Kernel error requesting UEFI upgrade.

2016-09-19 Thread Brad Campbell
On 19/09/16 22:53, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi, If DNG administrators consider this email not appropriate for the list, please delete it. A kernel error is requesting me to upgrade my HP Probook 4540s UEFI. The error involves the i915 graphics driver. On another laptop, the one on which I coded

Re: [DNG] tor and systemd?

2016-09-01 Thread Brad Campbell
On 02/09/16 00:20, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..we honk that nice big red "No-Shit???" horn now? ;o) https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#Backdoor ..to the Tor people: systemd made its way into Debian on banana republic politics, not on tech merit. Devuan tries to become a non-systemd fork,

Re: [DNG] eudev [was: vdev]

2016-08-24 Thread Brad Campbell
On 24/08/16 13:57, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:37:53 +0800 Brad Campbell <lists2...@fnarfbargle.com> wrote: On 24/08/16 11:13, Steve Litt wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 21:47:41 -0400 Clarke Sideroad <clarke.sider...@gmail.com> wrote: I think kdbus is dead due to t

Re: [DNG] eudev [was: vdev]

2016-08-23 Thread Brad Campbell
On 24/08/16 11:13, Steve Litt wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 21:47:41 -0400 Clarke Sideroad wrote: I think kdbus is dead due to the bad press, but I believe there is bus1 coming along to replace that. https://github.com/bus1/bus1 http://www.bus1.org/ Some familiar

Re: [DNG] OT: true read-only disk

2016-08-19 Thread Brad Campbell
On 19/08/16 00:08, Rob Owens wrote: I don't know the answer to your read-only question. But having done some data recovery in the past, I've found that attaching the drive via USB and sitting the drive in the freezer during recovery can help in situations like this. Also, besides ddrescue you

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-16 Thread Brad Campbell
On 16/08/16 21:54, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Apart from that, current LILO versions already do seem to support this and even if they didn't, adding a "Try 0x81. In case it doesn't exist, try 0x80" option to the code wouldn't be terribly complicated. Just requires "another learning curve" ... I

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-15 Thread Brad Campbell
On 16/08/16 11:50, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Brad Campbell (lists2...@fnarfbargle.com): Actually, this exact reason is why I moved from Lilo to Grub a few moons ago. It happens *when* one of the primary OS drives dies in your server and you get a reboot before you have a chance to fix

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-15 Thread Brad Campbell
On 16/08/16 00:09, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): Or, the first disk gets assigned a different position. Which happens when exactly? Because you're screwing around with swapping in and out different HBAs? Well, if you're doing that, see Actually, this

Re: [DNG] SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs.

2016-08-08 Thread Brad Campbell
On 09/08/16 06:03, Go Linux wrote: I posted a link to this response at the FDN link posted above. This was the response from the author of the howto: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=621972#p621972 He concludes: ". . . I would prefer to use the systemd-supplied components

Re: [DNG] KVM/ksm: was SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs.

2016-08-08 Thread Brad Campbell
On 08/08/16 14:17, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:00:48 +0800 Brad Campbell <lists2...@fnarfbargle.com> wrote: Just for the record, so does KVM if you turn on ksm. It actually works very well for a free solution. I use Qemu all the time, with hardware assist. How would I turn

Re: [DNG] SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs.

2016-08-08 Thread Brad Campbell
On 08/08/16 13:44, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 06:31:10PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: On the other hand, full-machine virtualization costs you the max of assigned memory to that system, at all time. Going off-topic but I just wanted to correct this statement,

Re: [DNG] SystemD's brownie points over non-systemd OSs.

2016-08-07 Thread Brad Campbell
On 08/08/16 00:31, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi All, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16=621842#p621842 Excuse me for the topic title. But the above link at first looked like some inherent advantage in using SystemD. However, after a little reflection, a couple of minutes, it seems there

Re: [DNG] Ugly, ugly news

2016-07-25 Thread Brad Campbell
On 26/07/16 10:27, Simon Walter wrote: Is that really the case? Did the Debian leadership do a poll to find out what their users wanted and who were their typical users? Desktop/personal vs. server/professional? Did they consult their package survey stats? I wasn't participating in those

Re: [DNG] F1 and special usernames on the login screen

2016-07-18 Thread Brad Campbell
On 19/07/16 10:43, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Brad Campbell (lists2...@fnarfbargle.com): This is one I find interesting. I've never used an operating system where it was required to know root credentials to halt or reboot the machine from the login screen. Remember, Unix is a multiuser

Re: [DNG] F1 and special usernames on the login screen

2016-07-18 Thread Brad Campbell
On 19/07/16 00:37, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, SPECIAL USERNAMES The login screen has no controls other than the input field. So how do you reboot, halt or go to a console from the login screen? The answer is, you use a special username. For instance, to reboot the computer from the login

Re: [DNG] Mini init script written in Perl boots.

2016-06-19 Thread Brad Campbell
On 20/06/16 00:40, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:18:48 +0200 Edward Bartolo wrote: So, I joined Devuan to contribute code. But, I am NOT appreciated, and to be sincere, sometimes I even think about leaving the project altogether. I am being denigrated just because

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

2016-06-13 Thread Brad Campbell
On 13/06/16 16:19, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 08:16:44AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi, This is a question about implementing a minimal OS initiator. If DNG's admins/mods deem this email is misplaced please delete it or ignore it. If you really want to create yet

Re: [DNG] Custom OS initiator. In need of some hints...

2016-06-13 Thread Brad Campbell
On 13/06/16 15:29, KatolaZ wrote: If I can provide my 2 cents to the discusion, before writing a new init you should have studied and understood very well one of the existing ones, and what should happen behind the scenes from the moment your kernel is decompressed to the appearance of a login

Re: [DNG] USB file transfer to your Android device

2016-05-12 Thread Brad Campbell
On 13/05/16 09:35, Steve Litt wrote: The following document looked pretty good, but the author kept pulling unexplained things out of every orifice, so it was impossible to know how the commands applied to me: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/USB_Devices_in_Virtual_Machines USB passthrough is a

Re: [DNG] No DNS: OVH under DDOS

2016-05-09 Thread Brad Campbell
On 06/05/16 17:41, hellekin wrote: As reported on IRC just a minute ago: < Guy-> is it just me, or is there a DNS problem with devuan.org? Guy-: http://travaux.ovh.com/?do=details=17875 dns anycast.me ( the CDN where devuan.org is hosted for DNS ) is under dDoS

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

2016-05-03 Thread Brad Campbell
On 03/05/16 17:24, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 03/05/2016 08:51, Mitt Green a écrit : The current init system is old. Ancient. We should all agree on it. Devuan is looking for a new init system that is not systemd and my personal choice for this task from now on is Gentoo's OpenRC. ‎ Unix is old.

Re: [DNG] OpenRC and Devuan

2016-05-02 Thread Brad Campbell
On 03/05/16 07:19, parazyd wrote: The current init system is old. Ancient. We should all agree on it. Devuan is looking for a new init system that is not systemd and my personal choice for this task from now on is Gentoo's OpenRC. Without getting specific, I just want to flag this as the

Re: [DNG] Skype: Re: What do we want for ascii ?

2016-04-24 Thread Brad Campbell
On 22/04/16 15:56, Svante Signell wrote: On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 15:26 +0800, Brad Campbell wrote: On 22/04/16 12:51, Joel Roth wrote: Skype for Linux, OTOH, *is* stale (and last time I checked was tricky to install) AIUI intentionally so due to Microsoft's special love for Linux. brad

Re: [DNG] What do we want for ascii ?

2016-04-22 Thread Brad Campbell
On 22/04/16 12:51, Joel Roth wrote: Skype for Linux, OTOH, *is* stale (and last time I checked was tricky to install) AIUI intentionally so due to Microsoft's special love for Linux. It's certainly behind the other os clients (windows/osx/iOS) but installing it on a several year old Mint/DE

Re: [DNG] Devuan Web A11y

2016-04-20 Thread Brad Campbell
On 20/04/16 15:21, Noel Torres wrote: Trond Arild Ydersbond escribió: I agree. And IMHO, it is not only the docs, but the whole approach to information handling where we need to improve on Debian. How do we cater for tens of thousands or more users, spread over the

Re: [DNG] Systemd criciticized for malfunctioning OS

2016-04-18 Thread Brad Campbell
On 18/04/16 23:33, Steve Litt wrote: By the way, if he were initting with Runit this would be so trivial to troubleshoot, because with Runit there's no place you can't put your voltage probe. There! Right there. That quote : "because with Runit there's no place you can't put your voltage

Re: [DNG] suspend and hybernate

2016-04-12 Thread Brad Campbell
On 13/04/16 09:27, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, What's the difference between suspend and hybernate? How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt? If I achieve each condition from the command prompt, how do I "wake up" the computer when I'm ready to use it again? In practical terms

Re: [DNG] X forwarding over SSH over ADSL

2016-03-13 Thread Brad Campbell
On 13/03/16 20:36, Brad Campbell wrote: I've snipped the remainder of your un-informed rant. Sorry, that was un-called for. Never the less, tightvnc works a hell of a lot better over super low bandwidth links than I've ever managed to get out of RDP or straight remote X. Plus, none

Re: [DNG] Bad UEFI: was Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-04 Thread Brad Campbell
On 05/02/16 15:30, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi, The argument of those who support protecting the hardware against a probable breakage are logically sound: I support them. I see it simpler than that. I've always believed that best practice was if you don't need it mounted rw, then don't. For

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-28 Thread Brad Campbell
On 28/01/16 11:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:05:08 +0800, Brad wrote in message <56a97754.7050...@fnarfbargle.com>: I'm running an early 2015 Macbook Pro. I have OSX, Windows 7 & Linux installed. I live in Linux, but on the rare occassions I need to boot into OSX or Win 7 I

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

2016-01-27 Thread Brad Campbell
On 27/01/16 23:57, Simon Hobson wrote: Wim wrote: I still have my previous model, I suppose I ought to try a native install on it - and perhaps see if I can get OS X running as a VM. I would prefer dual booting personally, since running OSX in a VM isn't always

Re: [DNG] Slackware now uses PulseAudio...

2016-01-17 Thread Brad Campbell
On 18/01/16 02:23, Steve Litt wrote: In all fairness, I've found few softwares as difficult to install and get right as Jack. In fact, of the five times I've tried to install it on various distros, I've succeeded zero times. So I'd settle for Pulse (or ALSA or OSS) over Jack simply because I

Re: [DNG] Giving Devuan sans-initramfs capabilities

2016-01-02 Thread Brad Campbell
On 02/01/16 02:18, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Steve Litt writes: [...] For a real deployment, this is usually just humbug and can be replaced with a kernel containing the drivers necessary for mounting a root filesystem. That's nice, until you want to do something

Re: [DNG] Jeep Cherokee hacked

2015-07-21 Thread Brad Campbell
On 22/07/15 10:15, James Powell wrote: http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2015/07/21/hackers-discover-way-to-remotely-control-jeeps/?cmpid=cmty_twitter_fb It appears, from the looks of things, Ashley Madison isn't the only one getting hacked. I'm wondering how this is happening so rampantly

Re: [Dng] How to bust into a broken Qemu VM?

2015-05-16 Thread Brad Campbell
On 16/05/15 15:37, Peter Maloney wrote: On 05/16/2015 02:00 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 07:37:57PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: When you accidentally bork a Qemu VM such that it won't boot to a virtual terminal, how do you bust back in. I doubt System Rescue CD would help,

Re: [Dng] About (k)dbus in LKML

2015-04-30 Thread Brad Campbell
On 28/04/15 21:00, Alex 'AdUser' Z wrote: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9450806 Hot discussion about merging kdbus in kernel. TL;DR: The people who talk about how kdbus improves performance are just full of sh*t. (c) Linus It is certainly a deep and wide ranging thread. When looked at