Re: [DNG] Lennart now working for Microsoft

2022-07-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 7/14/22 12:04, Peter Duffy wrote: [snip] M$ and IBM haven't always been rivals - worth remembering that OS/2 was originally a joint venture. Then they decided to go their separate ways and fork the OS/2 project: IBM carried on developing OS/2; M$ hacked their version into Windows 95 (remember

[DNG] Compiler differs from the one used to build the kernel

2022-04-28 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
When trying to build some DKMS modules manually, I run into the following fatal error when running 'make' warning: the compiler differs from the one used to build the kernel The kernel was built by: gcc-11 (Debian 11.2.0-20) 11.2.0 You are using: gcc-11 (Debian 11.3.0-1) 11.3.0

[DNG] NetworkManager Applet 1.24.0 on daedalus quite broken with multiple interfaces

2022-03-11 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
It appears that the NetworkManager Applet 1.24.0 built into XFCE4 on daedalus is quite broken and can't route properly across multiple interfaces. Indeed the icon only shows a single interface even if "route -n" shows the other. If I add additional interfaces then NetworkManager adds those and

[DNG] OpenPGP key for Devuan Release ISOs?

2022-02-25 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
I see that the ISO images are signed. I've tried to fetch the signing key[1] again, $ gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net \ --recv-key E032601B7CA10BC3EA53FA81BB23C00C61FC752C $ gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net \ --recv-key BB23C00C61FC752C $ gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net \ --search-keys

Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs

2022-01-22 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/21/22 22:26, Hendrik Boom wrote: [snip] Whatever the licence then, it seems to have ended up with a sufficiently free licence for Intel to put a copy of it in the management engine in their CPUs for the last decade or so *without informing Tannenbaum*. Tannenbaum was miffed; he said the

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/19/22 21:46, goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2022-01-19 12:50, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: On 1/17/22 23:17, goli...@devuan.org wrote: [snip]> This is not a trivial task. The many pieces that need to be coordinated are described in this HOW-TO: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-19 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/17/22 23:17, goli...@devuan.org wrote: [snip]> This is not a trivial task. The many pieces that need to be coordinated are described in this HOW-TO: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics/theming-devuan.md [snip] What quality of display(s) and color

Re: [DNG] Genuine, legitimate Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video: Was: Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

2022-01-16 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/16/22 22:58, Steve Litt wrote: [snip] Now, does anybody have anything to say about the CONTENT of the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCr_KFl41E ? Yes, it was quite interesting to hear about what a nice working environment there used to be and the talent that was active there,

Re: [DNG] Lead or follow? this decade’s dilemma for GNU/Linux based ICT industry

2021-12-30 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 12/30/21 10:36, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 30/12/2021 à 07:53, Steve Litt a écrit : The one improvement I can suggest with the article is to define all acronyms once within the text. Because I'm from North America, I call it "IT", and it took 10 minutes of looking up to find out that "ICT" is a

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-26 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/25/21 17:11, Steve Litt wrote: [snip] Imagine if they made a car with the engine compartment welded shut, and gave you a little cockpit in the passenger compartment to control a robot inside the engine compartment that would do maintenance and repairs. That's not too far off from new

Re: [DNG] What not to back up

2021-11-23 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/23/21 21:27, Hendrik Boom wrote: I'm setting up a new backup script that will do it all piecemeal so that if a part of it fails, it can be retried without having to start *everythng* over from scratch. [snip] It depends on what you've set up. For the systems I have, I only back up the

Re: [DNG] pkexec in Chimaera

2021-11-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/14/21 20:44, tempforever wrote: Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: [snip] On 11/8/21 05:12, tempforever wrote: > You say that sudoedit will run the editor itself under the unprivileged account; however, it appears it does run as root: [snip] Yes, I say that, but I got it from the manual p

Re: [DNG] nano hard line wrap

2021-11-13 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/13/21 19:41, Haines Brown wrote: I was left frustrated when nano 4.0 dropped hard line wrap as the default. But I have had no luck re-implementing it. I'm running nan 5.4-2. Man nanorc says there is the set/unset nowrap. I tried unset nowrap, but it had no effect. How do I recover a

Re: [DNG] nano hard line wrap

2021-11-13 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/13/21 19:41, Haines Brown wrote: [snip] > How do I recover a hard wrrap at 70 in nano? Isn't that done with 'set breaklonglines' now? /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] pkexec in Chimaera

2021-11-07 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/8/21 05:12, tempforever wrote: [snip]> Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: You could consider running sudoedit instead. That will allow you to edit a file as root (or any other designated account) while still running the editor itself under the unprivileged account. One should not run graphi

Re: [DNG] pkexec in Chimaera

2021-11-07 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 11/7/21 21:19, tempforever wrote: [snip]> Actually I'll probably switch to a text-based editor for this particular case, but in general, for GUI applications, how is this done now? [snip] You could consider running sudoedit instead. That will allow you to edit a file as root (or any other

Re: [DNG] a how to question (project(s) related)

2021-08-17 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 8/17/21 10:39 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: [snip] > I've lost all my earier works on amiga and plus4 due to bitrotting - > I sold the hardware when I realised everyting on floppy dodn't even > last some years. The life span of various storage media under various storage conditions was (and

Re: [DNG] End of free open source software?

2021-05-09 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 5/9/21 12:57 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:18:47 +0200, Dr. wrote in message > <202105090918.47488.off...@klepp.biz>: > >> Hi! >> >> Anno domini 2021 Sun, 9 May 08:33:05 +0200 >> tito via Dng scripsit: >>> Hi to all, >>> today while reading online my selection of

Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-03-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 3/27/21 5:33 AM, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:30:45PM +0200, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >> I'm looking at an ARM image for Beowulf, but cannot find where the >> default password is annotated. It's not on either of these pages: >>

Re: [DNG] Dng Subscription results

2021-03-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 3/26/21 4:54 PM, Dimitris via Dng wrote: [snip] > for mailman it might also be possible to just send an email to > dng-j...@lists.dyne.org Thanks. That helped. Regards, Lars OpenPGP_0xDEF20AB6653CEAE7.asc Description: application/pgp-keys OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital

[DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-03-26 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
I'm looking at an ARM image for Beowulf, but cannot find where the default password is annotated. It's not on either of these pages: https://arm-files.devuan.org/ https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan And no README file seems to be present. What is the default user/password for

Re: [DNG] Dng Subscription results

2021-03-26 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 3/26/21 4:10 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > On Friday 26 March 2021 at 14:59:26, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > >> I am trying to subscribe a different account so I can unsubscribe this >> one. However, when submitting the new address to the web form [1], I >> get the follow

[DNG] Dng Subscription results

2021-03-26 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
I am trying to subscribe a different account so I can unsubscribe this one. However, when submitting the new address to the web form [1], I get the following error and apparently no action towards subscription: Dng Subscription results Invalid captcha: invalid-input-response Regards, Lars [1]

Re: [DNG] Netiquette

2021-03-04 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
There are also some informal Netiquette Guidelines from October 1995 in the form of RFC 1855: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855#section-3.0 Section 3 covers one-to-many communications. /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] How to firewall on Devuan?

2021-02-24 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 2/24/21 2:01 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm now at the stage where I need a firewall on my Devuan VM guest, > and I don't know how to do it. I have the iptables package installed, > and /usr/sbin/iptables is a command, but I have no idea where to go > from there. Is there a file that

Re: [DNG] Devuan wallpaper licensing?

2021-01-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/27/21 10:43 PM, Bruce Perens via Dng wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 11:30 AM wrote: >> On 2021-01-27 12:51, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Which licenses are relevant for contributing wallpapers to the distro? >>> &

[DNG] Devuan wallpaper licensing?

2021-01-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
Greetings, Which licenses are relevant for contributing wallpapers to the distro? Would CC BY-ND [1] be the most appropriate, for photos? What about CC BY-NC-ND [2] or is there an established license already chosen? /Lars [1] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/ [2]

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-27 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 10/28/20 12:47 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting John Crisp via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > [snip much-appreciated picture of behind-the-scenes management > folderol at Thunderbird Project:] > >> The problem is decent alternatives are not great [...] > > Just in case people have lost track of

Re: [DNG] mssh not working (Chimaera)

2020-10-02 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 10/2/20 5:09 PM, Dimitri Minaev via Dng wrote: [snip] > If you could offer an alternative that provides synchronized input to a > number of SSH sessions, I'd be glad to hear your opinion. I know that > similar capabilities are found in Terminator and my favorite Konsole, but > they are not as

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-05 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 8/4/20 3:58 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: [...]> Normally, I use the Zoom app on my Android tablet, where I keep no > critical information. If video is not needed, then consider using Mumble [1]. It is exceptionally easy to set up, both from the client perspective and the user perspective. There

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-15 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/15/20 3:37 AM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:30:39PM +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote: >> Which is still quiet high. I would advise to renew the thermal paste on >> your processor. I can recommend Arctic Silver 5 AS5-3.5G Thermal Paste. >> Made a difference of another 20°C on

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/14/20 2:03 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 14-06-2020 12:53, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >> On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: >>> On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >>>> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice >>

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 6/14/20 1:47 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 14-06-2020 12:38, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: >> An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice >> that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about >> 25°C the cores seem to run much

[DNG] Devuan 3 running hot

2020-06-14 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
An upgrade to Beowulf went very smoothly but since upgrading I notice that the fans are always running. Although the air temperature is about 25°C the cores seem to run much hotter than necessary, pushing 70°C or hotter. The system is not really under any load. What should I be looking at to

[DNG] Patch for /etc/os-release on ascii

2019-08-23 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
It might help to have the same level of detail for /etc/os-release on both ascii and beowulf. That would allow a more standardized approach to automatically detecting the versions. Perhaps the same should apply to jessie, too. /Lars diff /etc/os-release /etc/os-release.orig 3,5d2 <

Re: [DNG] Qemu with Beowulf host / Ascii guest dies without much of an error message

2019-08-16 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 8/12/19 4:00 PM, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: [snip] > Well, a slightly irrelevant, and perhaps well known observation: I have > come to think that the most flexible networking for my local VM's is the > "vde mode". It does need a small amount of initial plumbing, with a > (single) supporting

Re: [DNG] Qemu with Beowulf host / Ascii guest dies without much of an error message

2019-08-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 8/12/19 1:42 PM, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Lars Noodén via Dng wrote on 12/8/19 8:07 pm: >> [snip] >> -net user,hostfwd=tcp::-:22 \ >> -net user,hostfwd=tcp::8880-:80 \ >> -net user,hostfwd=tcp::4443-:443 \ >>

[DNG] Qemu with Beowulf host / Ascii guest dies without much of an error message

2019-08-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
I've installed Ascii in a Qemu VM and qemu dies each and every time I try to connect to it using SSH via a forwarded port. This crash also happens each and every time with other Guests, such as CentOS 7, and with either Ascii or Beowulf as a host. It also happens with known working Qemu VMs

Re: [DNG] Installing fresh copy of x86_64 Beowulf?

2019-07-31 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 7/28/19 6:33 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2019-07-28 09:29, rgsid...@sunrise.ch wrote: >> Hi, with the actual image, I encountered only one problem. I tried to >> install it from a USB-stick, but the installer mixed up the partitions >> and installed on /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sda. You

[DNG] Installing fresh copy of x86_64 Beowulf?

2019-07-28 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
Is there a current guide to installing Beowulf on a fresh machine in one move? Or must Ascii go first and then followed by an in-place upgrade? /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Review: Intro to Devuan GNU+Linux, A Great Operating System without Systemd

2019-05-18 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
Ubuntu Buzz has a nice review of Devuan: "Intro to Devuan GNU+Linux, A Great Operating System without Systemd" http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2019/05/intro-to-devuan-gnulinux-great-operating-system-without-systemd.html It seems like a decent, positive review and covers the

[DNG] [solved] Re: python-qt5

2019-05-01 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 5/1/19 4:01 PM, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Lars Noodén via Dng wrote on 1/5/19 10:44 pm: >> How would I find python-qt5 for beowulf or pull it in from the >> corresponding Debian repository? >> >> /Lars > did you mean python-pyqt5 ? > > Ralp

[DNG] python-qt5

2019-05-01 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
How would I find python-qt5 for beowulf or pull it in from the corresponding Debian repository? /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 4/12/19 6:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: [snip] > The problem with the phrase "freedom of init choice" is that it appears > to say that one could choose systemd. > > We need to be clear that we are promoting freedom by providing > alternatives to systemd, and that users that choose systemd can >

Re: [DNG] The 1st Devuan conference kicks off tomorrow afternoon!

2019-04-07 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 4/7/19 4:53 PM, Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote: > We've had a number of excellent talks which have been recorded and > can be seen at https://www.youtube.com/user/DyneOrg. Thanks for posting the recordings. The sound isn't always the best but I am quite grateful that some people planned to

Re: [DNG] Update on the Green Hat Hackers attack

2019-04-02 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 4/2/19 12:26 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > >> Dear D1rs, >> >> we have analysed in depth the attack from the "Green Hat Hackers" that >> compromised the Devuan infrastructure in the last hours, and we >> concluded that you all are: >> >>* APRIL FOOLS

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-01-31 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/31/19 4:38 AM, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:19:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> Might interest someone: >> >> https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/ >> >> [Front] Posted Jan 28, 2019 20:05 UTC (Mon) by corbet >> >> His attempt to cast that story for the >> pleasure

Re: [DNG] mailing list software

2018-12-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 12/12/18 1:25 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > I wrote: > >> Upon examination, it turns out that the known flaws in Procmail lack any >> credible exploitation scenario. The matter was covered on LWN.net a few >> years ago, and I'm pretty sure nothing has changed substantively. >> >> (I've gone through

Re: [DNG] mailing list software

2018-12-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 12/12/18 1:13 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Lars Nood??n via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > >> It's probably a time that Procmail be retired, and thus anything based >> on it. There have been a lot of reports in recent years of serious, >> unsafe bugs in its processing. However, there is this

Re: [DNG] mailing list software

2018-12-12 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 12/12/18 1:14 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Martin Steigerwald (mar...@lichtvoll.de): [...] >> Ah, I found it: smartlist. It appears to be a small, lightweight C >> application. Debian is using this. > > Nicely summarised. Yes, SmartList seems to have carved out a neat > little niche of

Re: [DNG] Audio woes in Ascii - speakers but no headphones

2018-12-10 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 12/10/18 1:25 AM, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > [...] > One other good idea is this: alsactl init > The command will put your soundcard in a usable > state. > > As exemplified here: > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15765/why-do-i-have-to-run-alsactl-init-each-time-i-boot-my-system

Re: [DNG] Audio woes in Ascii - speakers but no headphones

2018-12-09 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 10/11/18 9:00 PM, Lars Noodén wrote: > Today when I plugged in external speakers or earbuds into the audio jack > on my notebook, the sound no longer transfers from the built-in speakers > to the jack. The sound stops in the built-in speakers as expected but > it is not transferred

Re: [DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.

2018-12-03 Thread Lars Noodén
On 12/3/18 1:16 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Nevermind, I found that prepending a symlink with a 'K' in /etc/rcN.d > is to disable that script. See "man update-rc.d" for the official tool for that. /Lars ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.

2018-12-02 Thread Lars Noodén
On 12/2/18 12:41 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > [snip] > So, the SD CARD, although brand new is now to be thrown away. > [snip] Is it still under warranty? If so you can get a replacement. In addition to the tips already mentioned, under-provisioning helps a bit too. /Lars

Re: [DNG] Implementing directory services/Kerberos

2018-11-08 Thread Lars Noodén
On 11/8/18 9:12 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > Redirecting back on-list. > > Quoting wirelessd...@gmail.com (wirelessd...@gmail.com): [snip] >> So my next question is, whats the recommended package to authenticate >> with LDAP and allow users to login to a desktop via their LDAP >> account? I've seen

Re: [DNG] CD-ROM missing valid 'Release' file on devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1.iso

2018-10-24 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/24/18 6:46 AM, Lars Noodén wrote: > Using the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1.iso image from a USB stick I > consistently get the error: > > [!] Detect and mount CD-ROM > Error reading Release file > The CD-ROM does not seem to contain a va

[DNG] CD-ROM missing valid 'Release' file on devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1.iso

2018-10-23 Thread Lars Noodén
Using the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1.iso image from a USB stick I consistently get the error: [!] Detect and mount CD-ROM Error reading Release file The CD-ROM does not seem to contain a valid 'Release' file, or that file could not be read correctly.

Re: [DNG] Case studies of high-traffic web sites running Devuan?

2018-10-19 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/18/18 2:46 PM, Daniel Klein wrote: > On 10/17/18 05:09, Lars Noodén wrote: >> Are there any case studies about large, high-traffic web sites running >> Devuan? [snip] > classictic.com runs with devuan, as most of the supporting systems. Some are > still

[DNG] Case studies of high-traffic web sites running Devuan?

2018-10-16 Thread Lars Noodén
Are there any case studies about large, high-traffic web sites running Devuan? For my part I understand that it is just Debian without the nasty bits. However, some are leery of change and would like at least anecdotal support that it is as reliable, or more so, than Debian. /Lars

[DNG] Kernel SUID sandbox

2018-10-15 Thread Lars Noodén
I notice that in Ascii with both the stock kernel and the one from backports (4.17.0-0.bpo.1-amd64) some applications cannot run. For example the web browser Brave fails with this message: [9394:9394:1015/111632.363017:FATAL:zygote_host_impl_linux.cc(116)] No usable sandbox! Update your kernel

[DNG] Audio woes in Ascii - speakers but no headphones

2018-10-11 Thread Lars Noodén
Today when I plugged in external speakers or earbuds into the audio jack on my notebook, the sound no longer transfers from the built-in speakers to the jack. The sound stops in the built-in speakers as expected but it is not transferred to the jack. If I run pavucontrol and choose "playback" I

Re: [DNG] [OT] Restricting user capabilities after ssh login

2018-10-10 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/10/18 7:30 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >   Works for me: ...> [root@wrkstn02 ~]# lsb_release -d ; uname -r > Description:    Devuan GNU/Linux 2.0 (ascii) > 4.18.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 Hmmm. I'm using just the stock kernel. Maybe that is the difference: $ lsb_release -d; uname -r Description:

Re: [DNG] [OT] Restricting user capabilities after ssh login

2018-10-09 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/10/18 12:38 AM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > You can use apparmor to do this quite easily - afaik there are a few > tutorials for it. Last I checked, apparmor does not function with Devuan: # /etc/init.d/apparmor start /etc/init.d/apparmor: 130: /etc/init.d/apparmor:

Re: [DNG] Which is the destiny of "Gksu" ?

2018-09-01 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/01/2018 10:16 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 01/09/2018 à 14:10, fsmithred a écrit : >>   Some apps have already replaced gksu with >> pkexec in stretch/ascii, and I wish that solution worked in all cases. >> There are plenty of posts from people who can't start synaptic from the >> menu, and I

Re: [DNG] Which is the destiny of "Gksu" ?

2018-09-01 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/01/2018 05:54 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > Nope. Per your own link, it's neither in buster nor unstable. > > Here you have it more clearly visible: > https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gksu.html If I understand correctly gksu is not needed. Using sudo with -H or -i, but with or without -u,

Re: [DNG] Devuan and the raspberry pi 3+

2018-08-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 08/21/2018 11:24 PM, Jim Jackson wrote: > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018, Lars Noodén wrote: > >> On 8/20/18, Jim Jackson wrote: >>> There are images of Devuan ASCII for the Raspberry Pi 3. Anyone know if >>> these are ok for the 3+? Or would I need to run the ima

[DNG] Partial graphics after in-place upgrade from Ascii to Beowulf on amd64

2018-08-21 Thread Lars Noodén
Perhaps there is an installer image for Beowulf somewhere and this can be solved with a fresh re-installation? Sunday, I did an in-place upgrade from Ascii to Beowulf on amd64. I have only partial graphics since and must get past some problems with (I think) X11. When I allow slim, lightdm, or

Re: [DNG] Devuan and the raspberry pi 3+

2018-08-20 Thread Lars Noodén
On 8/20/18, Jim Jackson wrote: > There are images of Devuan ASCII for the Raspberry Pi 3. Anyone know if > these are ok for the 3+? Or would I need to run the image on a model 3 and > update the firmware and kernel before moving to the 3+? I used devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3 from the embedded

Re: [DNG] Git and git.devuan.org - solved

2018-08-16 Thread Lars Noodén
On 08/16/2018 09:04 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote: > Am Donnerstag 16 August 2018 schrieb Lars Noodén: [snip] >> There seems to be some finesse missing. > > Hi Lars, > > I'm almost totally unexperienced with git, but what is missing, I think, is > to "stage" the

Re: [DNG] Git and git.devuan.org

2018-08-16 Thread Lars Noodén
On 08/16/2018 07:10 PM, KatolaZ wrote: [snip] > if the repository belongs to you (i.e., is USERNAME is your nickname), > then you should: > > git clone GITURL Thanks. That confirms that part. However, if I then edit a file, the commit seems to do nothing. > then make your changes, commit,

[DNG] We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd

2018-08-16 Thread Lars Noodén
There seems to now be a Swiss hosting provider specializing in Devuan hosting: "We can't stop wars and diseases yet, but we got rid of systemd." ... "thanks to the developers of Devuan." https://devuanhosting.com/en-us/cms/ It is one of their featured

[DNG] Git and git.devuan.org

2018-08-16 Thread Lars Noodén
Can someone please give me some quick examples of how to best "checkout" something from g...@git.devuan.org:USERNAME/someproject and then, after modification, submit the changes back? I've used CVS only a little bit but am even more unfamiliar with git. I suppose it would be two lines but after

Re: [DNG] [OT] Restricting user capabilities after ssh login

2018-08-13 Thread Lars Noodén
On 08/13/2018 10:45 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 13-08-18 09:40, Lars Noodén wrote: >> On 08/13/2018 10:36 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: >>> On 13-08-18 09:31, Lars Noodén wrote: >>> >>> >>> I worked the other way,

Re: [DNG] [OT] Restricting user capabilities after ssh login

2018-08-13 Thread Lars Noodén
On 08/13/2018 10:36 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 13-08-18 09:31, Lars Noodén wrote: > > >>> BTW I use this configuration combined with a symbolic link from >>> /var/www/html/website to /home/%u/website. This way it is much safer >>> then ftp

Re: [DNG] [OT] Restricting user capabilities after ssh login

2018-08-13 Thread Lars Noodén
On 08/13/2018 10:10 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 13-08-18 03:31, mett wrote: >> On Sun, 12 Aug 2018 13:18:23 +0200 >> info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: >> [snip] >>> That part of my sshd_config looks like: >>> >>> Subsystem sftp internal-sftp >>> Match group sftponly >>>   

Re: [DNG] [OT] Restricting user capabilities after ssh login

2018-08-13 Thread Lars Noodén
On 08/13/2018 08:06 AM, Didier Kryn wrote: >     But allowing ssh connections with a restricted shell permitting only > the commands used by rsync could be the way. But you would probably need > to forbid the fancy features of ssh, like port forwarding. If they use SSH keys (and only keys) for

Re: [DNG] [OT] Restricting user capabilities after ssh login

2018-08-13 Thread Lars Noodén
On 08/13/2018 04:29 AM, mett wrote: [snip] > To be honest, rbash is what I thought of, first. > > 2 things refrain me from using it: > -user cannot cd in his subdirectories [snip] Ok. That is potentially a big barrier. > -the wikipedia example of writing 'bash' at the command line > and then

Re: [DNG] [OT] Restricting user capabilities after ssh login

2018-08-12 Thread Lars Noodén
On 08/12/2018 09:10 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 01:55:00PM +0900, mett wrote: [snip]>> I m considering giving ssh access but I realized that >> chroot for ssh looks quite involved. >> >> So, I m wondering if using 'chmod o-r' >> for folders(and subfolders), and files on >> /etc,

[DNG] maintaining packages (was Re: systemd and ssh-server)

2018-08-12 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/27/2018 01:33 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 01:18:41PM +0300, Lars Nood�n wrote: > [cut] >> Can you please (re-)post the link to the new Devuan build process? [cut] > > and the relevant link is the fourth one: > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1110#p1110 > The

[DNG] apparmor: systemd-detect-virt: not found

2018-08-03 Thread Lars Noodén
apparmor seems to be missing from the bug list [1] and gives an error: # /etc/init.d/apparmor restart /etc/init.d/apparmor: 182: /etc/init.d/apparmor: systemd-detect-virt: not found Reloading AppArmor profiles:Mounting securityfs on /sys/kernel/security...Insufficient privileges to change

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-27 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/27/2018 01:00 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > [...] I need to specify here that a *maintainer* is a person who > follows the changes happening upstream to the packages he/she is > maintaining on a daily basis, and rebuilds those packages as > necessary, keeping them updated. And commits herself to do

Re: [DNG] systemd and ssh-server

2018-07-26 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/26/2018 04:01 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:> Hi, > > Am Mo den 23. Jul 2018 um 14:24 schrieb Rolf Schmidt: >> I would ask, if it is true, that the openssh-server still needs >> libsystemd0 in ascii? > >> Can I expect e fix? > > If you trust me ( :-D ) you can use my package[0].[snip] Looking at

Re: [DNG] who's tying up my port 80?

2018-07-10 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/09/2018 11:23 PM, Harald Arnesen wrote: > Rick Moen [2018-07-09 21:01]: > >> 'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;-> >> https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/ > > Why, oh why replace well-known, portable commands

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-08 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/09/2018 01:52 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > I don't think Linus is trying to hide anything, he just can't talk > about a backdoor and will deny a backdoor if you ask him about one. If you watch the video of when he was asked that question up front at a conference there is a clear "no" sound

[DNG] Starting a Devuan subforum at LinuxQuestions?

2018-06-13 Thread Lars Noodén
It looks like contact from a VUA would be needed to get a subforum for Devuan established over at LinuxQuestions: "...The process for this is covered in depth elsewhere, but if you know someone that is officially associated with the distro that is interested in

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 06/05/2018 02:06 PM, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 05/06/2018 07:19, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On 04/06/2018 at 18:40, Mark Rousell wrote: >>> On 04/06/2018 17:02, salsa-...@tut.by wrote: Personally I see this as a part of "embrace open source" strategy to kill open source. #

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 06/04/2018 09:10 PM, Mark Rousell wrote: [snip] > I chose the name 'Microsoft Enterprise Linux' deliberately. ;-) [snip] It's called "Azure Sphere OS" and it is 100% dependent on M$ products. You cannot use it without M$ Azure and you cannot develop for it without both M$ Windows and M$ Visual

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 06/04/2018 08:27 PM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: [snip] > Unfortunately TTL for societal knowledge seems to be about 6 years; > i.e., 6 years after introduction, it'll generally be seen as having > always been there. > > Ralph. Good point but I'd say that's only if it's knowledge in an area near

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 06/04/2018 11:45 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 08:47:36PM +0100, Simon Hobson wrote: >> KatolaZ wrote: >> >>> Whatever people say on twitter, Microsoft has never changed and never >>> will. It's the same company that stole BASIC. The same company that >>> stole DOS. >> >> While

Re: [DNG] installer on serial console / qemu

2018-05-18 Thread Lars Noodén
On 05/17/2018 10:15 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 17/05/2018 at 10:05, Lars Noodén wrote: >> On 05/17/2018 10:37 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: >>> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:32:06AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: >>>> Typo aside, wouldn't that need to point to the seria

Re: [DNG] installer on serial console / qemu

2018-05-17 Thread Lars Noodén
On 05/17/2018 10:37 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:32:06AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: >> Typo aside, wouldn't that need to point to the serial console instead >> and add, speed, parity, and word size? >> >> console=ttyS0,19200n8 > >

Re: [DNG] installer on serial console / qemu

2018-05-16 Thread Lars Noodén
On 05/17/2018 05:15 AM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: [snip] > could anyone give me a hint on how to run the installer on > serial console ? If I just add conosole=tty0, the installer > suddenly asks me for the language. Typo aside, wouldn't that need to point to the serial console

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session - resolved

2018-04-30 Thread Lars Noodén
On 04/27/2018 02:23 AM, Steve Litt wrote: [snip] > Not mentioned is which WM/DE is being used. Some WM/DEs are a crash > waiting to happen. Why not temporarily use LXDE, and see whether that > effects the frequency of the hang. If so, determine what about your > former WM/DE was causing the

[DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session - update

2018-04-27 Thread Lars Noodén
On 04/27/2018 02:23 AM, Steve Litt wrote: [snip] First thing I'd do is test the RAM and the disk. Easy to do, and it would be real shame to chase your video driver tail for a month when it was bad RAM. I'm pretty sure bad RAM can cause almost anything: Why not rule it out early. [snip] Thanks

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

2018-04-26 Thread Lars Noodén
On 04/26/2018 08:42 PM, Florian Zieboll wrote: [snip] > in one of your previous mails you pasted the output of your attempt to > install the "nvidia-driver" package. If you follow down the dependency > chain by manually trying to install the "not installable" predepends, > sooner or later you'll

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

2018-04-26 Thread Lars Noodén
On 04/26/2018 08:34 PM, KatolaZ wrote: [snip]> the drivers you get from Debian Stretch repos are exactly the same > drivers (bit-by-bit) that you get through Devuan ASCII repos. And I > mean it. Whatever it is, it's indeed the very same package, really, > *the* *very* *same* *package*. [snip] Ok

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

2018-04-26 Thread Lars Noodén
On 04/26/2018 06:37 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 06:36:14 +0300 > Lars Noodén <lars.noo...@gmail.com> wrote: [snip] >> Looking at the task manager in XCFE and top in the shell, the RAM and >> swap usage eventually start to climb more and more rapidly until

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

2018-04-25 Thread Lars Noodén
On 04/21/2018 09:56 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 20:37:24 +0300, Lars wrote in message > : > >> On 04/21/2018 08:17 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> [snip] >>> ..you have 2 video cards fighting each other for access to your >>> screen

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

2018-04-25 Thread Lars Noodén
On 01/15/2018 06:13 PM, Chillfan wrote: [snip] > Try with the official NVIDIA drivers and see what happens. > > https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Thanks. I've been unable to install the driver. Would I have to get that straight from Debian? See below for the missing dependencies.

Re: [DNG] DSA Signature on Devuan Release Archive Ascii Beta

2018-04-25 Thread Lars Noodén
On 04/25/2018 02:43 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 02:30:31PM +0300, Lars Nood�n wrote: >> I see that the devuan_ascii_2.0.0-beta_amd64_minimal-live.iso file [1] >> is signed with DSA key 8E59D6AA445EFDB4A1533D5A5F20B3AE0B5F062F >> >> Is that the right key? >> >> Isn't DSA deprecated

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