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Subject: Re: [DNG] What should an Install Guide accomplish?
Date: 2019-01-01 18:50
From: goli...@dyne.org
To: Michael
On 2019-01-01 17:34, Michael wrote:
Hi golinux and everyone else,
Okay, I’m breaking this topic off
.
Grtz.
Nick
Would you be willing to contact them about this?
Thanks,
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On 2019-01-01 15:04, chillfan--- via Dng wrote:
Validating the images is optional but I think it's useful to tell
people how this is done for those that want it. That part could easily
be rewritten to be optional and a recommendation only. That's my
suggestion for this anyway. So something like:
ges and report if anything is broken. If they look OK, I will
> merge everything to master tomorrow.
>
> Thanks,
>
> golinux
Very good job!
..maybe a wee tweak in section "1)" of:
https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/live-gui.html
where we might wan
. That would be useful
but separate from the install guides. Hopefully in time something will
be available.
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Hi golinux,
These thoughts are from the angle of helping someone who’s never done
an
install of any OS before. My guess is most people haven’t, as when
buying a
new computer the OS is almost always already installed now days
of the page. Please cycle through the pages
and report if anything is broken. If they look OK, I will merge
everything to master tomorrow.
Thanks,
golinux
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most welcome. Thanks for the suggestion.
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n on the
ASCII isos that use the debian-installer and it was just easier to keep
them in that format.
3) Finally, an explanation of non-free and contrib will soon be added to
appropriate page(s).
Cheers!
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ntain any characters other than (1) a forward
slash ( / ), which is reserved for use as the name of the root directory
(i.e., the directory that contains all other directories and files) and
as a directory separator . . ."
http://www.linfo.org/file_name.htm
about my habits. That can't be a good thing. Does
anyone know how to kill it? Is there something comparable to
about:config in chromium?
Version 57.0.2987.98 Built on 8.7
Thanks,
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ormation but lack of RTFM to which too many users today seem
allergic.
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On 2018-12-15 19:13, Steve Litt wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:37:36 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
it would be probably good to have a simple webpage for Devuan
newcomers that asks a couple of questions about the user
intentions/use-case and suggests the most appropriate install image
to use
e
Perhaps a slight rewrite of that page and higher visibility - top of the
page and big red letters -
would suffice?
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Debian stretch.)
What is the procedure to come to file-rc in devuan ascii?
With kind regards,
Stefan
It's on the banned package list:
http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt
I assume it's banned for a very good reason.
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t;
—Landon Bates
Here are links to the study and full list:
https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2017/11/15/no-boundaries-exfiltration-of-personal-data-by-session-replay-scripts/
https://webtransparency.cs.princeton.edu/no_boundaries/session_replay_sites.html
It just keeps getting worse and worse . .
It appears not:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=flashybrid=any
On 2018-12-02 15:58, g4sra wrote:
I have found flashybrid extremely beneficial in the past, on switching
from Debian to Devuan Ascii it appears not to be in the repository, is
it in Beowulf ?. I am not
no merge. This
> is fine with me.
>
I installed a test beowulf mini.iso a few days ago and there was
indeed an
option to merge. The default is to keep them separate.
golinux
Great! It has been tested.
Because that which is not tested is broken.
-- hendrik
Well, that option is cle
. The default is to keep them separate.
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Six words of clarity to counter the verbose confusion in this thread:
These mental states generate suffering for oneself and others:
lobha: craving, desire, greed, covetousness.
dosa: aversion, anger, hatred.
moha: delusion, ignorance, confusion, bewilderment.
These mental states are beneficial
ng a lot of
people here very badly and irrespectfully. This behaviour is not
tolerated. Either you stop immediately, or your emails will be
moderated.
HND
KatolaZ
I have access to the big red button and am getting a bit trigger happy .
. .
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On 2018-11-22 19:10, terryc wrote:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 16:05:37 -0600
goli...@dyne.org wrote:
It seems you missed this good advice from Roger Leigh:
"Let me begin by stating that I found your reply (and others) to be
rude, unnecessarily aggressive, and lacking in well-reasoned
objective
n you are in disagreement with
someone."
PThere is no need to be rude and insulting (often repeatedly). That
goes for everyone of us.
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On 2018-11-20 11:38, Steve Litt wrote:
And who can forget the GR, where, at the last minute, when it appeared
that they stacked the deck, by adding a new alternative, when it looked
like the GR would demand Debian work without a systemd PID1?
Repeating here for truth in case anyone has not
-installer what does that mean for the live isos? Will they be
configured with or without the merge as default? That's a decision that
needs to be discussed too.
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On 2018-11-17 21:36, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On 18/11/18 at 02:01, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
On 2018-11-17 17:26, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On 17/11/18 at 21:35, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
On 2018-11-17 14:08, Alessandro Selli wrote:
Devuan cannot forever be just a lifeboat. Let's be a little
On 2018-11-17 17:26, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On 17/11/18 at 21:35, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
On 2018-11-17 14:08, Alessandro Selli wrote:
Devuan cannot forever be just a lifeboat. Let's be a little
ambitious! Let's strive to have Devuan have a life of it's own, not
just
being a lesser
On 2018-11-17 14:08, Alessandro Selli wrote:
Devuan cannot forever be just a lifeboat. Let's be a little
ambitious! Let's strive to have Devuan have a life of it's own, not
just
being a lesser Debian.
And just what will your contribution(s) be towards making that a reality
(besides
In the last few weeks since the mail was restored, I have run across
several which were missing from the archives. Should I/we be keeping
track of those?
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On 2018-11-02 16:09, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hi Simon.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Simon Walter - 02.11.18, 11:47:
I thought I should write to warn anyone that has not already upgraded
to ascii.
FYI while we're on the subject, this isn't terribly off-topic. Posted
to irc
On 2018-10-30 02:48, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
On 30/10/18 05:06, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
I wouldn't consider this necessarily doom and gloom
Some might say IBM "helped" derail the AU census... and more, but the
AU
gov't keeps giving them support after multiple alleged botch ups where
they can
Lennart has a sense of humor? That's a little too much of an in joke
for me. Went right over my head . . .
On 2018-10-29 17:10, Daniel Reurich wrote:
I'm sure that's a joke relating to Redhat being bought out by IBM
...
On 30/10/18 11:02, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
OK. Having no idea what an
OK. Having no idea what an S/390 system is (except for a scan of the
wikipedia page), I'm hoping that someone can 'splain how this will
affect community based Linux and everyone who jumped on the systemd
bandwagon:
-
Lennart Poettering
@pid_eins
the option to choose between UTF-8 or iso-8859-15. I ticked
iso-8859-15 and the log displayed properly. Didn't that used to be the
default before UTF-8?. My daily driver is still jessie if that makes
any difference . . .
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benefit from it.
golinux
With help from my Devuan friends the connection times have improved
significantly. After little poking around and a very interesting talk
with my ISP, I decided that the ISP's DNS resolver was contributing
significantly to the slow connection times. A suggestion from
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote
It is incredibly annoying to be connected to a rather fast pipe yet have
to travel on what feels like 56k connection to get to where I can
benefit from it.
golinux
With help from my Devuan friends the connection times have
On 2018-10-14 01:52, Rick Moen wrote:
Anyhow, it can be vital to know _what_ server is answering (well or
otherwise) your system's DNS questions by default. Looking at
/etc/resolv.conf should answer that question.
I don't have anything in /etc/resolvconf except an avahi-daemon in
On 2018-10-14 01:52, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org):
Well, I picked a few names at random. netflix pops up as soon as I
hit enter. Ditto Microsoft, outlook, Apple, twitter, instagram,
reddit, snapchat and facebook. Redhat is in a slower lane as is the
Linux
at I/we frequent are a low
priority.
So we are being bumped to the slow lane. Aaron Swartz and others saw
this
coming and it has finally arrived. Will be interesting to see just
how bad
it's going to get . . .
Have you tried timing connection time to sites that likely *are* in
the
fast
destinations that I missed.
It is incredibly annoying to be connected to a rather fast pipe yet have
to travel on what feels like 56k connection to get to where I can
benefit from it.
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frequent are a
low priority. So we are being bumped to the slow lane. Aaron Swartz
and others saw this coming and it has finally arrived. Will be
interesting to see just how bad it's going to get . . .
HND
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Please stop this stupidity. This is a technical discussion list. Not a
political/therapy session.
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should die? Everyone, please
exercise some restraint. This babbling is a turnoff to new list members
who are expecting technical discussions not political debates/rants. We
are better than these last few sad weeks.
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magic I don't really understand. I suspect this might be
what triggered things. I am clueless how to test if IPv6 is actually
enabled on my network or how to disable it if it is. Maybe someone
can save me some hours of searching? I really need to work on the
refracta website a bit.
golinux
. I am clueless how to test if IPv6 is actually
enabled on my network or how to disable it if it is. Maybe someone can
save me some hours of searching? I really need to work on the refracta
website a bit.
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might be happening not ISP-related. Hoping to
learn something in the process.
Cheers,
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Try this:
http://hezeh.org/mate-desktop-on-devuan-ascii/
_Inviato con LG Mobile_
Why is that not available via the Devuan repos?
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We can ask
other fork in Devuan's future.
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On 2018-09-13 21:09, Mark Rousell wrote:
No matter that it is, as you say, practical and
quite efficient; new and shiny is in. ;-)
--
Mark Rousell
Not in my world . . . SNS is banished here,
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On 2018-09-13 18:02, Antonio Volpicelli wrote:
Hi,
Try this:
http://hezeh.org/mate-desktop-on-devuan-ascii/
_Inviato con LG Mobile_
Why is that not available via the Devuan repos?
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ears so not really news anymore. apulse is in the
ascii repos. I have not tried it yet though.
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. Does anybody know how to get the sound
working again?
Nik
Isn't that where pulseaudio became mandatory?
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Fedoraland?
Debian--> Devuan
Fedora --> Fedoruan?
If you're interested in exploring a remix like that, see
<https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix> (although note that
"Fedoruan"
is probably not acceptable with our trademark guidelines).
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I've become rather fond of it over the years. It has a
pretty good search function that usually finds what I need (even if the
link is now dead).
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search fu is better than mine:
https://www.mail-archive.com/dng@lists.dyne.org/
We need to find a mail list server and archiver that works. Suggestions
are welcome.
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I just grabbed the
first post that referenced it. A quick search in the archives might
find a better description (if it hasn't disappeared).
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On 2018-09-09 09:04, Steve Litt wrote:
I was going to use this email message as a reference in some
documentation I'm writing, but this email is not in the mail archive,
or at least I can't find it there. The archive seems to contain no
messaged from 8/8/2018 through 8/16/2008.
SteveT
all about user's freedom of choice...
Cheers,
Ron.
It is about freedom of choice. Everyone is free to use a broken theme
or one that renders properly. ;)
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On 2018-08-31 11:37, Edward Bartolo wrote:
From some time ago, XFCE 4 terminal 0.8.3 does NOT separate its main
menus. This is in XFCE 4 under ASCII. The menu bar appears like a
sentence without spaces. This also happens in 'Preferences' with tab
captions forming literally one long word.
[cut]
On 2018-08-24 20:51, Alessandro Selli wrote:
Errors documented by the console log from the other attempts have the
same error message:
Aug 24 01:54:57 choose-mirror[31759]: DEBUG: command: wget -q
http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/dists/stable/Release -O - | grep -E
On 2018-08-24 20:22, Gastón wrote:
Next he chose us.mirror.devuan.org as the package manager mirror
(the
other choice being auto.mirror.devuan.org) and the error windows shows
up with:
##
# Bad archive mirror
# An error has been
On 2018-08-23 19:54, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
Am I missing something? I only see that the releases are signed by
individual developers whom aren't on a central dev list page with their
fingerprints.
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On 2018-08-21 07:02, Lars Noodén wrote:
Perhaps there is an installer image for Beowulf somewhere and this can
be solved with a fresh re-installation? Sunday, I did an in-place
upgrade from Ascii to Beowulf on amd64. I have only partial graphics
since and must get past some problems with (I
as as much urgency to move Beowulf forward as there is to
support Slackware. Currently, things have ground to a halt. I want
Devuan to survive too!!
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With all due respects to Slackware, can't we find anything about Devuan
to discuss?
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-reference-removal-zealot
;-P
--
Olaf Meeuwissen,
How about "potty-wipe"
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are listed in this order on the site's index page. The
mail list is the last option:
dev1galaxy.org (where the d1h thread is stickied under Documentation)
#devuan IRC channel
DNG
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cultures but sometimes even within the same culture. Rick's posts often
contain subtle language that could challenge even native speakers.
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On 2018-07-25 02:11, Hleb Valoshka wrote:
On 7/23/18, Rolf Schmidt wrote:
I would ask, if it is true, that the openssh-server still needs
libsystemd0 in ascii?
Yes.
Can I expect e fix?
It's required just to notify systemd that sshd is running, so in
systemd-less system it's nop. So
free to
add your voice and energy to help push this forward.
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On 2018-07-17 12:04, spiralofhope wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 01:52:53 +0200
Alessandro Selli wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 15:16:27 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Jimmy, you've just won a free procmail trip to /dev/null on my
> computer.
Isn't this a stylish way to put it? :-)
aka "plonk".
On 2018-07-15 13:37, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 02:27:26PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:41:21PM +0200, Udo Hennig wrote:
> I get some trouble with the network after updating to ascii and
> rebooting too on two computers. I found some messages in dmesg
the weekend Devuan was at #8 then briefly at #7 on
Distrowatch!
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and merge them
with
the main o-Matic branch.
Regards.
Cheers
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t boot time ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
It does if you take a drive out for some reason or move drives around.
;) My gigabyte boards allow me to choose which drive I want to boot
from a list that pops up with F12.
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st have to keep a post-it on the monitor, to remind you which HD has
what ;-3)
Cheers,
Ron.
I actually keep a small sticky label on the drive itself. ;)
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, and choose there the HD you want to boot from.
Cheers,
Ron.
I have done exactly that more than once. No chance of an 'oops' when
only one disk is available for install. Just make sure it's the disk
you want to write to.
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On 2018-06-05 22:18, Mark Rousell wrote:
On 05/06/2018 17:25, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
Interesting isn't it that this new user arrives to DNG just days
before the github announcement and that most of his posts have been
trying to convince us what a wonderful thing it will be. Can't you
just
On 2018-06-06 01:47, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
As you say it's just business. So Bill Gates is in pharmaceuticals
now and he's a humanitarian for curing disease some place out of the
usa in small poor foreign countries, what a guy! Truth be told, he
could not get permission to test the drug here
to
convince us what a wonderful thing it will be. Can't you just hear the
bluebirds and smell the roses? We get what's happening and where he's
coming from. But I can't see anyone in this camp buying into this very
transparent propaganda. Time to move on. No fish are biting here . . .
golinux
On 2018-06-04 12:06, Mark Rousell wrote:
Source: http://businessinsider.com/microsoft-github-open-source-2016-9
'Microsoft just edged out Facebook and proved that it's changed in an
important way'.
OT: This site wouldn't let me view content with an adblocker enabled.
I made a quick exit
od coming out of this development.
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ee if it's still happening.
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This is the sneakernet updating of an offline box:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet
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On the dev1galaxy forum miroR has written extensively about airgapping.
That's all way beyond me but you might find something interesting there.
golinux
On 2018-05-03 14:22, Alessandro Selli wrote:
Ha!! I saw the title and thought it was going to be a list of some nasty
bugs that would hold up the RC! Whew!!
golinux (goes back to work . . .)
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be accomplished, the
only option is to use Debian I guess. This kind of lock-in has been
predicted for years so no surprise. Way to go Debian!
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go-to installer was sgfxi. It never failed to find the correct
driver and clean up the cruft. You can read about it here
https://smxi.org/ and here https://github.com/smxi/sgfxi . I know that
MX Linux packages smxi and for good reason.
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other sources.
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jaromil . . . I'm pretty sure that Timothy Pearson is the one doing TDE.
Some threads here:
http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0:201712::d:t
There was discussion last year about adding TDE but it never went
anywhere.
On 2018-04-10 01:38, Jaromil wrote:
hey Jimmy,
On Mon, 09 Apr
do with firefox and
cloudflare?
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this time. :)
http://web.archive.org/web/20150720070928im_/http://devuan.org/pics/devuan-ci-graph.png
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than dbus.
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they are not working?
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a blip on the radar.
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eadability
(that has not been addressed). So this is a solution in search of a
problem. The slim panel is an image not text so there can be no buttons
to increase font size. I can however increase the font size on the image
itself.
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realize you were not
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