Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

This thread has gotten ridiculously off-topic. Please show some restraint and consideration for the bloat this is putting into the dng database. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [DNG] You know, isn't ascii being more stable ironic to anyone?

uan.org/os/donate It's not really a 'Communication Channel' but maybe I could toss it in there on the index page. golinux HND KatolaZ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li

Re: [DNG] You know, isn't ascii being more stable ironic to anyone?

that need libsystemd0 removal. It is strongly suggested that packages be 'adopted' and the libsystemd0 status be maintained by the same individual through future releases. golinux ascii,389-ds-base ascii,389-ds-base-libs ascii,acpi-fakekey ascii,apt-cacher-ng ascii,asterisk ascii,beanstalkd ascii

Re: [DNG] Linus can no longer trust "init"

have done lately for Devuan? If not you and each and everyone of us, who? golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

Devuan has attracted some very special, magical elves. Without them the project would have been DOA. . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

but are not explicitly documented. Any chance someone (KatolaZ, parazyd etc.) could generate a list of packages in ASCII needing attention due to major breakages or needing removal of systemd dependencies? That would certainly motivate those wanting to help. golinux

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

your fire. :) Remember that a lot happens on irc too. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

o alt-init a systemd-infested system. You can see my answer here: http://troubleshooters.com/linux/systemd/bikebrakes.htm SteveT As usual . . . priceless. Did the dunce get it? golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.o

Re: [DNG] dev1galaxy host is down [update]

On 2017-07-06 12:35, goli...@dyne.org wrote: Just a quick note. dev1galaxy has been down for several hours. Can't even get to the host's main website. Have no idea when/if it will be back. We do have backups from yesterday in the worst case scenario. More later . . . golinux

[DNG] dev1galaxy host is down

Just a quick note. dev1galaxy has been down for several hours. Can't even get to the host's main website. Have no idea when/if it will be back. We do have backups from yesterday in the worst case scenario. More later . . . golinux ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] Amprolla: Another Network Outage.

those fossil fuels . . . (Apologies for the OT. I'm allergic to the 'g' word) golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

Already taken care of an hour or so ago on #devuan-dev. KatolaZ: Considering everything that has been said here and on the mailing list, I decided to remove the clause from the license. I have already updated the repositories accordingly. On 2017-07-05 14:20, Bruce Perens wrote: Do you

Re: [DNG] devuan packages explorer

site with its own url (good for search engines) that could be linked to from devuan.org and other Devuan related sites. I would also vote for a sparser, more compact look with the nav bar linking to various aspects of the DB structure. golinux ___

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

/viewforum.php?id=19 (gdo issues) The bot that posts those threads is a bit whimsical. But it does provide a handy, searchable db of what is on git and access to the target at one click. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

Re: [DNG] Devuan download mirrors

to this: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170624.175633.3cc63cea.en.html golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Nice story but . . . removing a constraint is not the same as imposing them. golinux On 2017-06-21 11:06, Bruce Perens wrote: About the time I started working on Free Software, I also founded _No-Code International_ with the goal of eliminating Morse Code exams as a requirement for the ham

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

think. If Mac and Windows can control 'stupid', so can free software. And the egos of those seeking to lure those users? Well that's classic psych 101. What to say, I'm old and cynical . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

good day. Other distributions are doing just fine without SD/GNOME. I think we can as well. - Nate Reposting this link as some of you may have missed it: https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/ And there you have it, folks . . . golinux _

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

/opensourcesrbija-trios/ His distribution was free of libsystemd0. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Git housekeeping

relevant. This will make the transition to ASCII less confusing and also assist with integrating git issues with the new Bug Reporting System. Thanks for your cooperation. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin

Re: [DNG] human reaable package index

ciao The second one works for me. Aitor. --- Yes, for me also golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] trash

in and sends it to oblivion. I checked my Thunar custom actions and don't see it there so must be set up that way as default. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

ride. . . :) golinux PS. Note about ASCII . . . In the list of minor planets - http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/lists/MPNames.html - ASCII is capitalized. We've been a little sloppy about that but will follow that naming in our future communications. Filenames will still be lower case

Re: [DNG] 403 forbidden on installer-iso

On 2017-05-23 17:06, Gregory Nowak wrote: Hi all, I'm getting a "403 Forbidden" message on: Can anyone else confirm this? Thanks. Greg I am also getting a 403. ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Linux 4.9 kernel

on the head; I'm sure that is why I actually have a bunch of other bpo stuff on that box (not as many on the new box). ___ A lot of us got bit by that. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

Re: [DNG] Linux 4.9 kernel

by perhaps "aptitude safe-upgrade -V" option. Strange Kind Regards AndrewM There was an issue with backports not being pinned properly in the beta2 (see: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=32). Or perhaps you have backports enabled? golinux _

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable release candidate

mirrors: Is there no longer a torrent for download? (That was an easy way to contribute to Devuan). Jochen ___ There will be for the final release. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https

Re: [DNG] Why I don't want to have Pöttersoft on my system

The name of the commenter quoted above was in that list - buzztiaan. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Why I don't want to have Pöttersoft on my system

response submitted to this bug has been removed but I saved it and posted to #devuan. Poster was Buzzsomething: "maybe handover dev of this toy to someone with unix experience" LOL! golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne

Re: [DNG] Some links found at a report on a Debian bug squashing party

/ -- hendrik Have you seen our very own Devuan packaging helper? https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=549 golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] grub background image

package contains it? Daniel Abrecht It's in desktop-base. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

will help to clarify Devuan's naming scheme and packaging protocol: https://devuan.org/os/filenaming and https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=549 golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [DNG] Fwd: init system agnosticism [WAS: how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system]

___ How about Systemd OS running on a Linux kernel. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Screensaver issues

of suspend the screen is blanked and I have to wake it up. All minor annoyances but annoyances nonetheless. Should I downgrade the kernel, just live with it or is there a fix? golinux Go into Settings, Session and Startup, Application Autostart and make sure that Screensaver is checked. Th

Re: [DNG] Screensaver issues

annoyances nonetheless. Should I downgrade the kernel, just live with it or is there a fix? golinux Go into Settings, Session and Startup, Application Autostart and make sure that Screensaver is checked. That's all I can think of right now. Oh, you did reboot after the kernel upgrade, right?

[DNG] Screensaver issues

: The XScreenSaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ":0.0". Launch it now? Most often when I come out of suspend the screen is blanked and I have to wake it up. All minor annoyances but annoyances nonetheless. Should I downgrade the kernel, just live with it or is there a fix

Re: [DNG] The apulse FF solution

ad.html?project=home%3Astevepassert=mpv Here's the list: https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:stevepassert I suggest you read that thread more carefully than I did. Please let us know how it goes. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@

Re: [DNG] ..http://amprolla.devuan.org/ is down, https://devuan.org/ remains up.

On 2017-03-25 12:52, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 11:12:10 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote in message <9d409cb83199281c9e0a0b1c589e0...@dyne.org>: On 2017-03-25 10:17, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > Hi, > > ..http://amprolla.devuan.org/ is down, https://devuan.org/ remains > up. It's back up

[DNG] The apulse FF solution

from ideal and sliding further down hill all the time. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

, but underneath, we can still use ALSA. [1] http://fossforce.com/2017/03/webassembly-comes-firefox/#comment-21054 Kind Regards AndrewM There is hope on the apulse front! This just posted over at FDN today: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=639534#p639534 golinux

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

in the morning till lights out past midnight 7 days a week, I am working on something to advance devuan in one way or another. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Where to report?

is not clearly listed on the packages bug summary page. Perhaps you could contact Eric directly. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

above address rather than on this list. We really don't need all those emails clogging the archives. Thanks. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

lectively roll up our sleeves and move from being 'users' to being 'systemd decontaminators' and/or finding ways to support those who are doing the work in meaningful ways other than jawing on dng. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

as a choice . . . Er . . . not quite what you intended to say, I think. . . . and they still have the power to take our init systems away from us . . . How exactly will they do that? An executive order? golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng

Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports

/ftp.debian.org/debian [4] jessie-backports main > into your sources.list > > and have a look at > https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ [5] > to set your mind at rest. > > DaveT > Perhaps not the best advice . . . Has this issue been fixed yet? If not you'll have

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

's 'select an element to hide' feature or stylish. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] getting surf from backports

our mind at rest. DaveT Perhaps not the best advice . . . Has this issue been fixed yet? If not you'll have to do the pinning manually. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=479 golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

On 2017-03-12 12:36, KatolaZ wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 04:33:23PM +, Daniel Abrecht wrote: On 03/12/2017 03:49 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 01:55:27 +1100 > Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >>> Plus, on Ubuntu (I am yet to

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

FF on life-support as we transition to other browser options. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

ch enabled, it will be unusable for most of us. So this is a heads up that someone will have to step forward to do this if it is not worked out upstream. Care to take that on? golinux (who has compiled maybe 2 apps ever) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne

[DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

going down this road could yet change Mozilla's mind. Yeah, right . . . Or maybe another viable alternative will miraculously appear . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Bluetooth

but probably will need to be addressed at some point. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Browsers

will display the key combination as you press it. It's not intuitive, and it lacks instructions. fsr Indeed . . . go to settings > Keyboard > Application Shortcuts. Definitely not intuitive but has worked for the few hot keys I needed. g

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

otherwise, just grab the latest from any mirror, where password is "devuan" thank you, toor works. the image was downloaded 1h ago from files.devuan.org That may or may not still work. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https:/

[DNG] Life After Firefox 56

/viewtopic.php?f=7=3027638 Unfortunately, there's no perfect solution to the direction corporate decisions are taking us. How will we respond? Do we want to keep Firefox as the default browser in ascii? Or jump ship? Time to start testing browser options and sharing experiences . . . golinux

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

uan Jessie. The only downside: the Crunchbang theme is not fully compatible with Jessie, because of gtk3 in some applications. And I'm not familiar with repairing broken themes. :-( The Clearlooks-Phenix-Purpy theme offers GTK3 compatibility as well as a nice purpy openbox theme. So

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

On 2017-02-23 03:27, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2017 schrieb Jaromil: Golinux has done an outstanding work with the looks of Devuan, starting from the website to finish with the purpy desktop, but we must admit the integration of this part is one of the main reasons we

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

practical. It visually helps to identify the version being used. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

, not necessarily Wayland.) Anyone in the Devuan camp should not be throwing stones at a fellow turtle. ;) Recently there was a post to the Thunar list reiterating the GTK3 move. There's also talk of it on the Xfce forum. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

On 2017-02-22 09:22, aitor_czr wrote: Hi golinux, On 02/22/2017 02:34 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: Hi aitor, The green you used in the Devuan-Green from July last year is closer to leafy - #8FAA00. There is no green even close to the green in your current theme planned for devuan. However

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

e bugs. Appreciate your efforts. I'll be trying to sort a theme for ascii myself before too long . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Hibernation after Installation on System76 Gazelle

ead and the resulting documentation. May or may not work for you. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=115 https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=117 golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

have some sort of polling function? Might be more logical to have those decisions made and archived where the work is being done. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Mouse won't release in Devuan beta 2 with Qemu

uan_jessie_1.0.0-beta2_amd64_DVD.iso an 'offline install' iso not a 'live' iso? Last I heard, devuan does not have an 'official-live' iso. I have no idea how an 'install' iso would work in qemu. Only used 'live' isos. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@list

Re: [DNG] Mouse won't release in Devuan beta 2 with Qemu

On 2016-12-29 12:27, KatolaZ wrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 01:18:34PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Fsmithred and I have put a heckofa lot of time into this, and frankly need help from everyone who can reproduce this problem (Fsmithred can't). The problem is this: When you run either

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Beta2 Live [Beta2 not Beta]

Actually it's the Beta2 live!!! golinux On 2016-12-03 16:32, fsmithred wrote: ...and here is the entire link: https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/unofficial_devuan_live/ Sorry about that! -fsr ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Devuan docker base image

On 2016-11-29 15:00, Ozi Traveller wrote: Hi Do we have an official Devuan docker base image? Ozi ___ I would say unlikely since jaromil posted this on #devuan earlier today: don't use docker? agree, trash docker, use LXC directly golinux

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

on . . . :) Be well dear friend, golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

with skinning to integrate with the Devuan color scheme. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

e to "harmonize" (tm codex-speak) the lists, this dislocation might have been avoided. Perhaps we could reset and try again by asking for community feedback before a final decision is made? Somehow, one executive decision overridden by yet another is not an improvement in community re

Re: [DNG] apt-get update fails [FIXED]

with jessie-security repos fixed it was failing to update cause of the changes in devuan-keyring package amprolla on the security mirror merger machine was using the wrong keyring golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] mate-1.14

On 2016-10-28 14:35, Antonio Volpicelli wrote: On 2016-10-28 12:43, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > - Original Message - > From: <golinux@???> > To: "dng" <dng@???> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:24 PM > Subject: Re: [DNG] mate-1.14 &

Re: [DNG] Refracta on Distrowatch

On 2016-10-25 08:51, aitor_czr wrote: Hi golinux, On 10/25/2016 02:00 PM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: I have found vertex to be buggy. And it falls over badly on synaptic etc. Hope something better appears before needed for ascii . . . golinux Synaptic has root permissions, did you

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