Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

2022-09-06 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 11:47:33AM -0400, Curtis Maurand wrote:
> I think this is all great right up until you need a fixed address for
> something like a mail server or a web server.  So far, I've found IPV6 to be
> unreliable.

I would argue it's easier to get a fixed address with IPv6 than it is
with IPv4. If a provider is using mobile IPv6 to hand out addresses,
or is doing something else preventing users from having a fixed static
IPv6 subnet this is the fault of that provider, and not a deficiency
of the IPv6 protocol.

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Re: [DNG] meta: list

2022-08-31 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 09:14:31AM +0200, marc wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Just a quick note that in the last week or so google seems
> have ratcheted up its rejection of mail from independent MTAs
> a notch or two.
> 
> IF you check your logs, you might see 550 rejects with a message
> such as
> 
>   Our system has detected that this message is likely
>   unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of spam sent
>   to Gmail, this message has been blocked. Please visit
>   https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError
>   for more information.

I haven't seem gmail rejecting mail from my MX since I setup a skeleton
DMARC a while back. I just checked my logs for the last ten days, and
haven't seen a single rejection from gmail, even though my MX has sent
quite a bit of mail to them during that time.

I have toyed more than once with the question of what would happen if
a group of us running our own mail exchanges made the choice to
reject mail from gmail.com with a 550? If a few of us did it, we might
miss mail we maybe wanted to get. If a bunch of us did it, then a
bunch of gmail users would complain to google. My guess is google's
response would be "this is a free service; if it doesn't work for you,
then don't use it."

As for classic e-mail, I have to concur that's gone. In my book
classic e-mail means no DMARC/SPF/DKIM no valid PTR records, and
sending mail from dynamic IP addresses directly. That's not happening,
and we have the spammers to thank for that. If everyone played nice,
that internet would probably still exist.

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Re: [DNG] Mixer for alsa

2022-08-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 11:16:57AM +0200, aitor wrote:
> Amixer is only a piece of alsa-utils. The following utility will do the job:
> 
> $ aplay --list-devices

Yes, that's another way. The /proc method doesn't require remembering
or looking up aplay syntax, or invoking a second utility. So, that's
the method I pointed out. I could have listed both for the sake of
completeness though.

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Re: [DNG] Mixer for alsa

2022-08-26 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 04:23:38PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Is it my imagination, or does amixer not have a command to list all cards, 
> with
> their card numbers and maybe device numbers? If this capability is really 
> missing,
> it's quite an omission, as it forces one to trial and error cards.

No, not really. There is a list of cards in /proc/asound/cards.

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Re: [DNG] Mixer for alsa

2022-08-24 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 10:42:15PM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:20:23AM +0200, al3xu5 via Dng wrote:
> > - other mixers for alsa? I do not know...
> 
> aumix has an ncurses interactive mode much simpler than
> alsamixer, and also a command line mode.

amixer has met my needs nicely for a number of years. Takes some
getting used to, but the simplicity makes it worth the effort for me.

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Re: [DNG] elogind on a server?

2022-08-03 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 09:55:23AM +0200, Joril via Dng wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> I've just installed a minimal Chimaera on a VM from
> devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_server.iso
> 
> I see that it has installed elogind, but is this required on a server? What
> will I miss if I remove it?

I don't have elogind installed on my server, and don't seem to have
problems. I suppose you can try to purge it, and see what else it
wants to remove before answering yes or no.

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Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 07:54:24PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Hi Gregory,
> 
> Gregory Nowak via Dng writes:
> 
> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 08:54:00PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
> >> OK but if / and /boot are encrypted, something has to be able to decrypt
> >> that before GRUB can read /boot/grub/grub.cfg.  It might be that GRUB is
> >> able to do that itself these days (haven't checked) but on my LibreBoot
> >> laptop it's the LibreBoot BIOS that does the decrypting, AFAIK.
> >> Hence, my comment.
> >
> > I can confirm that grub2 in at least Beowulf and now Chimaera can deal
> > with decrypting the boot partition if you use LUKS for the encryption:
> >
> > <https://cryptsetup-team.pages.debian.net/cryptsetup/encrypted-boot.html>
> >
> > The archwiki has even more scenarios:
> >
> > <https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system>
> 
> Thanks for the pointers.
> 
> >> I was thinking/hoping I could make an encrypted LV, without encrypting
> >> all PVs in the VG.  I use a fair number containers and VMs and don't see
> >> a need to encrypt those.  Actually, I don't see much need for putting
> >> these on RAID1 either :-/
> >
> > You can in fact do what you describe. Make your LV, but instead of
> > creating a file system on it, format it as LUKS, unlock it, and create
> > your file system on /dev/mapper/unlocked_volume.
> 
> I know that but my concern was with increasing LV size.
> 
> For encrypted "partitions", the recommendation is to randomize their
> content before use to make cracking the decryption harder.  If I were to
> randomize the content after initial creation of a LUKS formatted LV, any
> space added afterwards would *not* be randomized.  Hence my idea of
> "just" randomizing content of the *whole* disk (all 256GB of it!) before
> use.

If filling the free space on the disk with random data is important to
you, then just filling the entire disk with random data before use is
probably the best way to go. You can then resize volumes in the future
without having to worry that the free space is being filled with non
random data. Do note that you don't want to enable discards in
lvm.conf (this is the default) if you want to be sure unencrypted data doesn't 
end up on the
disk. By not enabling discards, you are decreasing the life of your
flash, by how much, I'm not sure. I suspect that would depend on how
frequently the disk is written to. I keep my encrypted volumes on
RAID10 spinning disks, so this isn't a trade off I've had to deal with.

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Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-25 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 08:54:00PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
> OK but if / and /boot are encrypted, something has to be able to decrypt
> that before GRUB can read /boot/grub/grub.cfg.  It might be that GRUB is
> able to do that itself these days (haven't checked) but on my LibreBoot
> laptop it's the LibreBoot BIOS that does the decrypting, AFAIK.
> Hence, my comment.

I can confirm that grub2 in at least Beowulf and now Chimaera can deal
with decrypting the boot partition if you use LUKS for the encryption:



The archwiki has even more scenarios:



> I was thinking/hoping I could make an encrypted LV, without encrypting
> all PVs in the VG.  I use a fair number containers and VMs and don't see
> a need to encrypt those.  Actually, I don't see much need for putting
> these on RAID1 either :-/

You can in fact do what you describe. Make your LV, but instead of
creating a file system on it, format it as LUKS, unlock it, and create
your file system on /dev/mapper/unlocked_volume.

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Re: [DNG] Upgrade & migrate?

2022-07-06 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
I stand to be corrected, but I think not supported simply means if you
get yourself into trouble, you keep the pieces, not that it can't be
done. I upgraded a couple of systems from Ascii directly to Chimaera a
while ago, and it went well for the most part. From what I recall, I
had to intervene to resolve cryptsetup-initramfs and cryptsetup-bin by
hand, and maybe another package or two. I am not recommending someone
try that, unless you feel comfortable dealing with dpkg, and have a
fairly good grasp of manually resolving package dependencies. If
someone reads this, tries skipping devuan versions and ends up with a
mess, I'm not responsible.

Greg


On Wed, Jul 06, 2022 at 05:56:24PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I notice that https://www.devuan.org/ states that "Devuan Chimaera can be 
> installed as an upgrade from Devuan Beowulf or migrated from Debian Bullseye. 
> Note that skipping releases is not supported."
> 
> I seem to recall that earlier releases could be:
> 
>  - migrated from the equivalent Debian release (eg: Buster -> Beowulf)
> 
>  - upgraded from the previous Devuan release (eg: Ascii -> Beowulf)
> 
>  - upgraded and migrated from the previous Debian release (eg: Stretch -> 
> Beowulf)
> 
> Is that last option still valid for eg: Buster -> Chimaera?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Antony.
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Re: [DNG] booting devuan minimal live on MSI laptop

2022-04-23 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:25:49AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote:
> Here's a devuan chimaera minimal-live iso with grub-efi-amd64-signed.
> Please let me know if it works with secure boot. Thanks.

Thanks fsmithred. The image you provided has the same issue as the
previous image "secure boot violation." I suspect the grub signature
isn't the problem. If it were, I'm 90% sure the USB drive wouldn't
show as boot media in the boot menu. I suspect the problem is the UEFI
expects something signed by Microsoft.

I was able to sort of solve my problem by creating a windows system
image from within windows itself. It not only restores in a virtual
machine, but also boots. Everything in the restored system seems to be
as it was when I created the system image, including the recovery
partition. Thanks for your help fsmithred.

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[DNG] booting devuan minimal live on MSI laptop

2022-04-20 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Hello everyone.

I need to backup a windows 10 laptop which I don't use, but need to
provide support for. This is a UEFI machine with secure boot enabled.

When I plug in a custom devuan install I have on a pen drive which
I've setup for such things, the system doesn't even recognize the
drive is plugged in when in the boot menu. This is most likely because this
is a system with grub2 booting from MBR which works for my other use
cases. So, I decided to dd the devuan Chimaera minimal live amd64 UEFI
iso to a pen drive. When I try to boot with the minimal live drive
attached, the drive is
recognized, but I get a message about invalid signature, secure boot
violation. Pressing enter on that just takes me back to the boot
menu.

Is there some way for me to get a valid signature from the existing
windows 10 install on that machine, and remaster the minimal live iso
to include that?

Removing the MVME drive and just backing it up on another system is
something else I've considered. However, to do so, I need to remove a
sticker over one of the screw holes in the case, which would void the
warranty. This is something I don't want to do, and I also don't look
forward to cracking open this thin laptop case.

I also hesitate to disable secure boot. Even if I could do that on
this laptop, I would need someone else to read the UEFI screens to me
while I did that. From what I've read, disabling and enabling secure
boot isn't just a simple toggle operation. I also don't want to make
the existing windows install unbootable before I backup the machine.

So, remastering the minimal live image to have a valid secure boot
signature seems the simplest way forward. Any help on figuring out on
how to get a valid signature, and remastering the iso image would be
much appreciated. Pointers to web pages are good enough. This is my
first time dealing with secure boot, so please excuse me if I'm slow
on the uptake. In case it matters, the machine in question is an MSI
GF63 Thin 10SCXR-222. Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: [DNG] How to port Devuan to a different ARM board?

2022-04-08 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 11:04:19AM +0800, Jeremy Ardley via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm interested in running devuan on an orange Pi R1 (H3 ARM processor).
> 
> It's not listed as an available image, so I'd be quite happy to build one if
> someone can give me the procedures required.

As far as I know, the embedded images are built using the devuan
arm-sdk:



I haven't looked into the sdk much, but there might be enough info
there to figure out how to adapt it to build images for a new board.

There is also:



which seems to document support for the h3 board. Good luck.

Greg


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Re: [DNG] installing Wine 32

2022-03-28 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Redirecting back to the list.


On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 01:04:14PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 04:26:32PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 03:47:43PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> > > Your suggestion made me feel rather guilty until I checked after doing 
> > > update/upgrade
> > > 
> > >   $ aptitude show wine | less
> > >   Version: 5.0.3-3
> > >   State: installed
> > > 
> > > Are you running Ceres?
> > 
> > Indeed. The version of wine on multiple chimaera systems I have
> > installed is 5.0.3-3.
> > 
> > Here's how you install wine32:
> > 
> > dpkg --add-architecture i386
> > apt update
> > apt install wine32:i386
> > 
> > Greg
> 
> Not much luck. I did the first two steps and then
> 
>   # apt install wine32:i386
>   Reading package lists... Done
>   ...
>   The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>libasound2-data : Breaks: libasound2:i386 (< 1.2.5.1-1) but 1.2.4-1.1 is 
> to be installed
>Recommends: alsa-ucm-conf but it is not going to be 
> installed
>libcurl4:i386 : Depends: libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 (>= 1.17) but it is not 
> installable
>  Recommends: ca-certificates:i386
>libwrap0:i386 : Depends: libnsl2:i386 (>= 1.0) but it is not installable
>perl-base : PreDepends: libc6 (>= 2.29) but it is not installable
>  PreDepends: libcrypt1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but it is not installable
>  PreDepends: dpkg (>= 1.17.17)
>ucf : Depends: coreutils (>= 5.91)
>   E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

My bad. You don't need to append the architecture. So just:

apt install wine32

or if you prefer

apt-get install wine32

should work.

> 
>   # dpkg --configure -a
>   [no feedback]
> 
>   # apt-get dist-upgrade
>   ...
>   The following packages have been kept back:
>   xdg-desktop-portal-gtk  
>   ...
>   The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   xdg-desktop-portal-gtk : Depends: xdg-desktop-portal (>= 1.14.0)
>   E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.   
>   
>   # aptitude show xdg-desktop-portal
>   Package: xdg-desktop-portal
>   Version: 1.8.1-1
>   State: installed
>   ...
>

This looks like an unrelated issue. If xdg-desktop-portal isn't
something you use, purging it as in:

apt-get purge xdg-desktop-portal

should resolve that for you. I seem to recall someone else posted to
the list with this issue a few days ago. From what I recall from that
thread, xdg-desktop-portal got pulled in by something else, but wasn't
actually needed.

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[DNG] signatures with expired gpg keys

2022-03-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Hello all.

There are a couple people who keep posting to this list messages
signed with expired gpg keys. Can those individuals please either
update the expiration for your keys, or stop  signing messages you
post to this list? thank you.

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Re: [DNG] installing Wine 32

2022-03-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 03:47:43PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> Your suggestion made me feel rather guilty until I checked after doing 
> update/upgrade
> 
>   $ aptitude show wine | less
>   Version: 5.0.3-3
>   State: installed
> 
> Are you running Ceres?

Indeed. The version of wine on multiple chimaera systems I have
installed is 5.0.3-3.

Here's how you install wine32:

dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt update
apt install wine32:i386

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Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply - SOLVED

2022-03-22 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:38:05AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> In any case, by enabling the 5GHz radio with AC mode,
> WPA2-PSK and 80MHz signal width my BCM43228 associated with
> the router and received an IP address. 

I'm not familiar with that particular chipset. However, based on the
above, that would suggest your network card presents the 5 GHz radio
on wlan0, and the 2.4 GHz radio on wlan1.


On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 08:54:06PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote:
> With both available USB-WiFi-Dongles (rtl8192cu and rt2800usb), I can
> see the devices 
> 
>   $ iw dev
>   $ iw list
> resp.
>   $ iw phy0 info
>   
> as well as the available networks
> 
>   $ iw wlan0 scan
> 
> but dhclient times out, when querying the "Fritzbox":
> 
>   No DHCPOFFERS received.
>   No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
> 
> Installing NetworkManager via Android-AP and '/etc/network/interfaces',
> as an "emergency workaround", solved the issue for now. Interestingly, 
> 
>   $ iw dev
> 
> tells me, that I am not connected with 5GHz, as I first had assumed,
> but on
> 
>   channel 11 (2462 MHz), width: 20 MHz, center1: 2462 MHz

I saw something similar on openwrt 21 on a gl.inet ar750 router. What
they did was to switch around the frequencies used by wlan0, and
wlan1. This was done by defining the band to use in the radio0 and
radio1 sections of /etc/config/wifi. How that actually does what it
does behind the scenes of UCI abstraction I wasn't able to figure out.

The result of this was that I needed to rmmod the modules used by one
card, run wifi down, uncomment the band lines in each radio section, and run
wifi up with no networks enabled in order to scan for networks on a
particular band, and then I needed to run wifi down,
reverse changes in /etc/config/wifi, modprobe modules, and run wifi up to 
connect to a
network.

I wondered why they did this, until I discovered that using I believe the 5 GHz
radio in the 5 GHz band caused both wifi radios to become
unresponsive. I needed to either reboot the router, or rmmod all wifi
modules, and modprobe them again to regain wifi functionality.

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Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply

2022-03-12 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 09:40:15AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> After doing an apt-get upgrade, I can get a a wifi
> connection, for example using wpa_gui, however dhclient just
> times out. 

I haven't been able to get to e-mail for a few days, so am coming late
to this. If you haven't gotten this resolved, it sounds like you're
saying that you associate with the access point in the GUI, but then
run dhclient, and don't get an IP address. Do I understand you
correctly? If not, can you please explain in more detail what happens?
No screenshots please, unless someone else is able to look at them,
and pickup from there.

> 
> Do you have any suggestions for how to troubleshoot this?

If I understand that you can associate with the access point through
wpa_gui, what does iwconfig(8) say? If iwconfig says the adapter is
associated with the access point, can you configure a static IP
address valid on your network, and does that work, or do you still
have no internet connection.

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[DNG] solved: Re: usb keyboard detection in initramfs

2022-02-19 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 02:57:11PM -0700, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote:
> The problem is that my usb keyboard doesn't seem to be detected in the
> initramfs. Once I unlock the partition from the serial console, boot
> proceeds as expected, and everything is fine.

Turns out the problem was that the kernel can't output to multiple
consoles. I thought it could output to all consoles specified as
console parameters to the kernel. After specifying tty1 as the only
console in cmdline.txt, I rebooted, waited a couple of minutes to be
sure, and typed in the password to devrypt mmcblk0p2 on the usb
keyboard. Lo and behold, about 30 seconds after that I heard orca
announce "screen reader on" through the rpi's 3.5M audio jack.

For the record, the only usb modules I have in
/etc/initramfs-tools/modules at this point are:

usbhid, hid, and hid_generic in that order. Thanks for the suggestion
anyway Tito.

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[DNG] usb keyboard detection in initramfs

2022-02-18 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Hello everyone.

I have a raspberry pi 3b arm64 sd card which I recently upgraded in
stages from jessie to chimaera. This card has the second partition
encrypted, so I need an initramfs to decrypt it.

The problem is that my usb keyboard doesn't seem to be detected in the
initramfs. Once I unlock the partition from the serial console, boot
proceeds as expected, and everything is fine.

In /etc/initramfs-tools/modules I have:

# List of modules that you want to include in your initramfs.
# They will be loaded at boot time in the order below.
#
# Syntax:  module_name [args ...]
#
# You must run update-initramfs(8) to effect this change.
#
# Examples:
#
# raid1
# sd_mod

evdev
ecb
xts

# USB keyboard at boot
usbhid
hid
hid_generic
ohci_pci


I doubt I need ohci_pci for the rpi3, but I saw references on the web
stating that it is needed for a usb keyboard, so included it just in
case.

The screen during the boot process until the unlock prompt says:

[7.851176] hub 1-0:1.0: 1 port detected
Begin: Loading essential drivers ... [7.973790] hid: raw HID
events driver (C) Jiri Kosina
[7.998803] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[8.008273] usbhid: USB HID core driver
[8.083812] ehci_hcd: USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI)
Driver
[8.108252] ohci_hcd: USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver
[8.123583] ehci-pci: EHCI PCI platform driver
[8.136873] ohci-pci: OHCI PCI platform driver
done.
Begin: Running /scripts/init-premount ... done.
Begin: Mounting root file system ... Begin: Running /scripts/local-top
...[8.164405] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using
dwc2
 [8.203533] urandom_read: 2 callbacks suppressed
 [8.203543] random: lvm: uninitialized urandom read (4 bytes read)
 [8.380597] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0424,
 idProduct=9514, bcdDevice= 2.00
 [8.396897] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0,
 SerialNumber=0[8.409579] hub 1-1:1.0: USB hub found
 [8.411407] device-mapper: uevent: version 1.0.3
 [8.417808] hub 1-1:1.0: 5 ports detected
 [8.427132] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.43.0-ioctl (2020-10-01)
 initialised: dm-de...@redhat.com
 Please unlock disk mmcblk0p2_crypt:

If I plug and unplug the keyboard at this point, I don't see any
detection messages. I do see later on that after the root fs is
mounted, udevd is started. Also, if I boot with the keyboard
unplugged, login, look at lsmod, plug the keyboard again, and look at
lsmod again, no new modules are loaded, but the keyboard is
detected. So, I think I have all necessary modules in the initramfs,
but no udevd.

Should udev be in the initramfs? If yes, what should I look at to find
out why it isn't in the initramfs. If udevd shouldn't be in initramfs,
then something else would have to detect devices on the usb bus in the
initramfs. What is that something?

This used to work perfectly fine under jessie. If more info is needed,
I'll be happy to provide it. Thanks in advance for any tips. If this is
documented somewhere, and I haven't been able to find it in my
research, a pointer to that documentation would be good enough.

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Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6 - broken hardware revealed by dmesg

2022-01-28 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 03:14:31PM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> This is an older thinkpad, I think it's unlikely to need
> extra firmware. When I try to install firmware-misc-nonfree I'm told:
> 
> Package firmware-misc-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another 
> package.
> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
> is only available from another source
> 
> I do have firmware-linux-nonfree installed. 

Hmmm, OK. Well, firmware-linux-nonfree should pull in
firmware-misc-nonfree, so your probably fine as far as that goes, and
you probably have a bad ethernet chip.

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Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6 - broken hardware revealed by dmesg

2022-01-28 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:40:36PM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:05:06PM -0700, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote:
> > Joel Roth wrote:
> > > Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > > > Is there anything different in the dmesg(1) output for eth1 than
> > > > for your other interfaces?
> > >
> > > bingo:
> > >
> > > [467072.902423] e1000e :00:19.0 eth1: Hardware Error
> > >...
> > > This is a used Thinkpad pad, recently purchased.
> > > Fortunately usb-ethernet adapters are easily available.

I'm not sure, but is it possible your ethernet chip is one which
requires firmware from the firmware-misc-nonfree package?

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Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

2022-01-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Hi Joel,
redirecting back to the list.


On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:44:55PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Thank you for the response, Gregory. 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 03:33:01PM -0700, Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 11:37:52AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> > > It seems that my new router uses IPv6. Perhaps that means
> > > the ISP does so as well.
> > 
> > Just because a router uses IPv6, doesn't necessarily mean the ISP
> > supports it.
>  
> > > My problem is connecting via dhcp over ethernet.  On IRC
> > > I was advised to try
> > > 
> > > ping ff02::1%eth1
>  
> > Just to make sure, the interface connected to your router is in fact
> > eth1, and not eth0, right?
>  
> Yes, it's eth1.
>  
> > > which fails to get a response, indicating IPv6 is not enabled in my 
> > > client.
> > 
> > Posting the actual output might help.
>  
> Usually ping (with no options) periodically returns a line
> with the time taken for the round trip. In this instance,
> one line beginning with PING and nothing more. 
> 
> > > I tried setting "iface eth1 inet6 dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces, 
> > > then "ifup eth1".  This fails with 
> > > 
> > > no link-local IPv6 address for eth1 
> > 
> > Even if your interface isn't able to configure a global IPv6 address,
> > it should still get a link local address starting with fe80.
> 
> This is the problem. I don't have a link local address:
> 
> $ ifconfig eth1
> eth1: flags=4099  mtu 1500
> ether 28:d2:44:1a:e0:ca  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
> RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
> TX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
> TX errors 0  dropped 0 overruns 0  carrier 0  collisions 0
> device interrupt 20  memory 0xf250-f252 

You don't seem to have an IPv4 address, even for obtaining a dhcp
lease. Is this what you expect? If not, then the problem would seem to
be wider in scope than just IPv6.

> 
> > Also, before modifying /etc/network/interfaces, I would advise doing
> > ifdown eth1, modifying the file, and then ifup eth1. Instead of inet6
> > dhcp, I would suggest:
> > 
> > iface eth1 inet6 auto
> > 
> > My understanding is this should use either dhcp6, or RA/NDP to
> > configure it.
> 
> > What does the following output:
> > 
> > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
> > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/disable_ipv6
> > cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth1/disable_ipv6
> 
> All zeroes. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joel Roth
> 

Do you have network-manager or the like installed which could be
trying to configure the interface on its own?

Is there anything
different in the dmesg(1) output for eth1 than for your other
interfaces?

Since ifconfig is depricated, what does:

ip address show eth1

give you?

What does:

cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth1/autoconf

output?
Other than that, that's all I can think of at the moment.

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Re: [DNG] Configuring ethernet port for IPv6

2022-01-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 11:37:52AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> It seems that my new router uses IPv6. Perhaps that means
> the ISP does so as well.

Just because a router uses IPv6, doesn't necessarily mean the ISP
supports it.

> 
> My problem is connecting via dhcp over ethernet.  On IRC
> I was advised to try
> 
> ping ff02::1%eth1

Just to make sure, the interface connected to your router is in fact
eth1, and not eth0, right?

> 
> which fails to get a response, indicating IPv6 is not enabled in my client.

Posting the actual output might help.

> 
> I tried setting "iface eth1 inet6 dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces, 
> then "ifup eth1".  This fails with 
> 
> no link-local IPv6 address for eth1 

Even if your interface isn't able to configure a global IPv6 address,
it should still get a link local address starting with fe80.
Also, before modifying /etc/network/interfaces, I would advise doing
ifdown eth1, modifying the file, and then ifup eth1. Instead of inet6
dhcp, I would suggest:

iface eth1 inet6 auto

My understanding is this should use either dhcp6, or RA/NDP to
configure it.

What does the following output:

cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6
cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/disable_ipv6
cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth1/disable_ipv6

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Re: [DNG] no ttyS0 - Chimaera, vanilla kernel 5.10.0-10 on Atom C2750

2021-12-29 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 08:15:54PM +0100, Andrzej Peszynski wrote:
> I am trying to use onboard RS-232 @ supermicro A1Sai-2750 with Intel C2750,
> Devuan Chimaera, vanilla kernel 5.10.0-10-amd64. In BIOS the ports COM1 and
> COM2 are configured on 24MHz/13.

24MHz/13 makes no sense here, unless you're trying to use an IrCOMM
device. If the serial section of your UEFI/BIOS has IRDA support, you
want to disable that if you just want to use a standard serial port.

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Re: [DNG] Ryzen?

2021-12-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 06:54:41PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote:
> I'm sure I've read somewhere (and not especially recently) that Linux on AMD 
> Ryzen CPUs can be unreliable and/or surprisingly poor performance.

Yes, ryzen had issues in its early days:







I'm running Beowulf on a custom built ryzen 7 1800x system with a MSI
b350 gaming plus motherboard with a custom compiled 5.15.11 kernel
with no problems. While this is considered old hardware at end of
2021, I'm still amazed by how fast it is compared to what I was used
to for a long time before building this machine.

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Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-15 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 03:34:09PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> Installed apulse.  Still no sound in firefox, or xine.

Simply installing apulse doesn't mean applications will start using
it. You need to use /usr/bin/apulse as a wrapper around every
application you want to use it. Sounds tedious, but once you either
write a shell script, or modify a desktop shortcut to call the
application in question (I.E. /usr/bin/apulse your_application_binary), you can 
run the application as usual from
then on.

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Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio

2021-12-13 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 06:57:02PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
> Next, I may take out pulseaudio and verify
> that firefox works on my system with apulse.  Then I can be rid of both of
> them.

Firefox works fine on my systems for playing audio without pulseaudio
or apulse. So, I suggest verifying firefox works for you without
apulse first.

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Re: [DNG] Wanting to set up an email system

2021-11-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 05:12:59AM +1000, onefang wrote:
> If you mean email server as well as client, on the server side I picked
> courier, coz it supplise most of the bits, which all work well together. 
> Every other email server solution means gleuing together various bits
> from different developers.

If you want to setup an e-mail server, be prepared to read
documentation carefully, and do lots of web searching. With antispam
measures like spf and dkim, the process is more complicated than when I
started running my own server in 2002.

I started out with qmail, and am on postfix for over ten years now. I
chose postfix, because I find it easy to configure, feature rich, and
because it supports sendmail milters. I did look at the courier
package, but seem to vaguely recall it didn't provide all the features
I wanted. I however use courier imap/pop3, and sqwebmail integrated
with postfix.

If all you're wanting is to move from webmail to an e-mail client,
then I use fetchmail to grab mail from my server, standard mutt to
read it in a text console, and postfix configured to send outgoing
mail to my server as smarthost. I use those three packages because
they work for me, and I haven't had the need to look for something
else.

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Re: [DNG] Install OpenSSL (libssl, libcrypto) with weak ciphers

2021-07-21 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 02:20:50PM +0100, Mike Tubby wrote:
> I am trying to migrate a legacy system from Ubuntu 16.04 to Devuan 3.0 where
> we have mobile IoT devices based on Cinterion TC65i that are 10+ years old
> with a limited sub-set of SSL 3.0/TLS 1.0 ciphers in its Java-ME runtime, in
> particular we need DES/3DESciphers like RSA-3DES-CBC-SHA

There's an easier way. Just install the openssl packages already
provided in Devuan 3. Edit /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf, and change the last
line from:

CipherString = DEFAULT@SECLEVEL=2

to:

CipherString = DEFAULT@SECLEVEL=1

This will weaken the security of your ssl connections, but it sounds
like you are already prepared to accept that risk.

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Re: [DNG] Fwd: Installing postgresql13 on beowulf

2021-07-18 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 03:46:56PM +1000, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote:
> Bionic is an Ubuntu release. You should be using buster-pgdg repository for 
> postgresql apt as Devuan Beowulf is directly based on Debian Buster. Devuan 
> has no direct relationship with Ubuntu.

I don't recall seeing buster in the provided release output, which is
why I suggested using bionic. If buster is indeed present, and I
missed it, then buster should indeed be used. Apologies for the confusion.

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Re: [DNG] Fwd: Installing postgresql13 on beowulf

2021-07-17 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 09:38:13PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> - - - - no mention of Beowulf and that means a - - - no go - - - - at least
> as far as I can tell.
> 
> Any ideas?

Bionic is based on buster, and therefore similar to Beowulf. If the
repository has bionic, use bionic if installing on Beowulf.

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Re: [DNG] PartialSolve Re: Chimaera; Lost sound

2021-05-21 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 06:21:12PM +1000, terryc wrote:
> YMMN, but that is all I need as I do not have any HDMI speakers or USB
> speakers, or bluetooth speakers.

My solution was to simply blacklist the module for the HDMI
audio. Glad you got it to a state that works for you.

> 
> This fixed it for vlc, qasmixer and alsamixer in that they correctly
> took the speakers I wanted as default and I didnt have to manually
> select the motherboard sound chip.
> 
> I'm still working on why the browsers(falkon & firefox-esr) and
> quiterss(what ever browser it loads) are not playing sound.

I can't speak to any of the other browsers, but can tell you I get
sound in firefox-esr on a Chimaera install without pulseaudio, and
without apulse. Removing pulseaudio is all I did, I didn't do anything
to firefox itself.

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Re: [DNG] Chimaera; Lost sound

2021-05-20 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 12:52:29PM +1000, terryc wrote:
> I carried out the install from the recommended(last) chimera iso and
> all basically was well. Sounds was there, but I didn't want pulseaudio
> and removed it and installed alsa, alsaplayer, alsamixer, etc.
> 
> But I have no sound. It seems to have something to do with certain
> drivers for PCMs not being installed.

What does

amixer -c0 get PCM
amixer -c1 get PCM

give you?

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Re: [DNG] Beowulf; Increasing the number of boot options under grub. How To?

2021-05-18 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 12:15:50PM +1000, terryc wrote:
> I understand the easiest method to install chimaera is a minimal
> beowulf install and the the usual dist-grade route. As outline by
> Florian about a month ago. (TY)

There is a netinst image available for both amd64 and x86 of Chimaera on
files.devuan.org.

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Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-04-03 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:47:48AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote:
> - Link arm-files.devuan.org from the main site as Greg suggests.
> - Make a sticky thread in the forum pointing to arm-files.devuan.org

Yes, I think that would be perfect. Both actions would make folks
aware of arm-files.devuan.org on the main devuan site, as well as
those browsing the forums, but who don't visit the main devuan site.

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Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-04-02 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 07:57:21PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> Greg,
> 
> Have you not seen this thread on the forum? Because it is not a community
> project, it is presented differently that the official devuan isos.
> 
> Location is: Index » ARM Builds » Installer images for armel, armhf and
> ppc64 need testing
> 
> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3351
> 
> There is a link to that thread on the Download page of the website.
> 
> golinux

Yes, I saw that thread. However, the links point to
pkgmaster.devuan.org. The first mention of arm-files.devuan.org is in
a post by garyz.dev1, which is quite a way down in the discussion. The readme
file with the login credentials for the embedded images doesn't seem to be
anywhere on pkgmaster.devuan.org as far as I can tell.

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Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-04-02 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 03:24:30PM +0200, Joril via Dng wrote:
> Strange, I can see a https://arm-files.devuan.org/README.txt, it contains
> this annotation:
> 
> Beowulf 3.0.0 credentials:
>   devuan:'devuan'
>   root  :'toor'
> 
> Beowulf 3.1.0 credentials (rpi-img-builder based):
>   pi:'board' (with passwordless SUDO :-O )
> ___

When reading the first post in this thread, I heard "files.devuan.org"
instead of "arm-files.devuan.org" and went looking in the former. What
I would like to know is where is arm-files.devuan.org referenced off
of the main www.devuan.org site? The only references there I noticed
about embedded devices go to the forum, and a quick look at the forum
pages didn't make it obvious to me that arm-files.devuan.org
exists. Perhaps a reference to arm-files.devuan.org should be made
more prominent on www.devuan.org if it already exists there? Thanks.

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Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-31 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 03:59:01AM +0100, tux...@sapo.pt wrote:
> >In the SBC world, kernels are tailored to specific hardware..
> >
> >Installing a generic kernel without having the correct Device tree Source,
> >or Binary files,or even the needed kernel drivers, will probably render
> >your system unusable..

Yes, I'm well aware of that.

> >
> >I strongly advise you to not do that..
> 
> Instead use the Image for Beowulf, for RaspBerryPi 2:
> http://arm-files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf_3.1.0_armhf_rpi2.img.xz
> 
> Its an updated image with last kernel and all functionality, including
> Raspberry PI Userland tools, which means drivers to interact with camera,
> videocore, and such..
> 
> Its well supported, and its a recent release: 04-Mar-2021
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> tux

Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm not going to replace my existing
install with a fresh one, and then reconfigure that to match the old
install; that would take me a couple of weeks. I'm upgrading this unit
to Beowulf as I type, and have chosen to go with the already built
firmware from the raspberrypi repository on github, which is what I've
done until now, and which seems to have what I need still. I may play
with the raspi-firmware package later, but that will be on a test
install. If I determine that route meets my need and is easier to
upgrade via apt-get dist-upgrade, I may switch to it in the
future. Thanks to everyone for your help. I consider the issue solved.

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Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-30 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 09:44:24PM +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote:
> For my regular Pi's i just have the following in my apt sources
> 
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main
> deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main
> 
> and this just works.

So, I see there is a linux-image-4.19.0-16-armmp package, which just
provides the kernel in /boot. I also see there is a raspi-firmware
package, which seems to work with the kernel and initramfs-tools to provide
firmware in /boot/firmware. It looks like /boot should be in the root
file system, and /dev/mmcblk0p1 should now be mounted as
/boot/firmware, correct? Does installing linux-image-4.19.0-16-armmp
and raspi-firmware in Beowulf provide the necessary kernel and
firmware to boot a raspberry pi, or are there more packages I need?
For completeness, I'm upgrading to Beowulf on a raspberry pi 2b. Thanks.

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Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-29 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 11:42:00AM +0300, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> this package is ascii (not beowulf), so you probably need :
> 
> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii raspi
> 
> d.

I guess that would explain why it's not indexed in Beowulf. When I add
the above to my sources.list and apt-get update, I get:

W: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/ascii/InRelease
Unable to find expected entry 'raspi/binary-armhf/Packages' in Release
file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
 
Since this isn't a Beowulf package, I'm probably better off just
fetching the latest firmware from Raspberry Pi's github repo, or cross
compile my own from linux stable, since I seem to recall that the
Raspberry Pi code made it into the main kernel.org source tree a while
ago. Thanks to everyone for your help.

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Re: [DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-28 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 09:04:11AM +, g4sra via Dng wrote:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Sunday, March 28, 2021 12:59 AM, Gregory Nowak via Dng 
>  wrote:
> <-snip->
> > 
> 
> > Is there a way to do what I want, or do I need to download the correct
> > package manually, and install with dpkg -i? 
> 
> 
> You don't say what the 'correct' package is that you wish to install.
> 

Good point:

http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/raspi/l/linux-raspi/linux-image-raspi_4.20.4-3_armhf.deb

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[DNG] adding raspi to sources.list

2021-03-27 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Hi all.

I want to add:



to my sources.list. However, this seems to be a dangling directory
with no references to it in the package indexes. I've tried two forms
in sources.list:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/devuan pool/raspi/l/linux-raspi/

which returns:

W: Failed to fetch
http://deb.devuan.org/devuan/pool/raspi/l/linux-raspi/Packages  404
Not Found

and another form:

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf raspi

which returns:

W: Failed to fetch
http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf/InRelease  Unable
to find expected entry 'raspi/binary-armhf/Packages' in Release file
(Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)

Both of these errors make sense, since this is a dangling directory
like I said.

Is there a way to do what I want, or do I need to download the correct
package manually, and install with dpkg -i? If what I want to do is
possible, then could someone please post the correct format for the
sources.list entry? Thanks.

Greg


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Re: [DNG] Default logins for ARM images?

2021-03-26 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:30:45PM +0200, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote:
> I'm looking at an ARM image for Beowulf, but cannot find where the
> default password is annotated.  It's not on either of these pages:
> 
>   https://arm-files.devuan.org/
>   https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan
> 
> And no README file seems to be present.  What is the default
> user/password for those images?

I also am unable to find where this is documented. If memory serves
though, the user is root, and the password is toor (root
backwards). Try if that works.

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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-02 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 04:57:35PM +0100, rad via Dng wrote:
> I have no problem with a curses version but i suspect that i use the wrong
> program. Sometimes I fill blind.
> The programm calls  refrectinstaller-wrapper.sh

OK, it sounds like you're using Refracta, which is another
distribution based on devuan.

> 
> so what program should i start from the USB-stick ?

Which ever one you would like. If you want to use Refracta, that's
fine. I believe the maintainer of Refracta is on this list, and so are
other Refracta users hopefully as well. For reference, it sounded to
me like you were using the devuan installer such as:



This can be booted from a USB flash drive also, and this is what I
use. Again, I'm not trying to dissuade you from using Refracta if that
is what you want to use. This illustrates the importance of describing
exactly what someone is using, and what documentation they are
following.

Greg


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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-01 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Radisson, unless you have a specific reason to reply to me directly,
please reply to the list instead. Having the entire group see the
discussion means that maybe others can help you where I'm not able
to. Redirecting back to the list.


On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 05:10:34PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Gesendet: Montag, 01. Februar 2021 um 03:33 Uhr
> > Von: "Gregory Nowak" 
> > An: radisso...@gmx.de, dng@lists.dyne.org
> > Betreff: Re: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> >
> > Redirecting back to the list.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 04:34:56PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2021 um 04:09 Uhr
> > > > Von: "Gregory Nowak via Dng" 
> > > > An: "Radisson via Dng" 
> > > > Betreff: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:15:53PM +0100, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> > > > > Hello list,
> > > > >
> > > > > i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.
> > > > >
> > > > > I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.
> > > >
> > > > I can tell you that using the text based installer for Beowulf, I was
> > > > able to do manual partitioning without problems.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.
> > > >
> > > > If you're able to boot into the installed system, then /etc/fstab was
> > > > indeed created. At least some parts of the system will end up being
> > > > installed into /.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You got me wrong,  i started the
> > > installer. i successfully created the whole partitioning but the whole 
> > > setup
> > > was ignored the installer used / and installed everything there.
> >
> > OK, I'll repeat back what you said as far as I understand it. You said you
> > used the installer to create a custom partitioning scheme, but the
> > installer ignored your partitioning scheme, and installed the entire
> > system into /, instead of mounting various partitions in the
> > appropriate mount points under /. Correct? If yes, then a /etc/fstab
> > must still have been created,
> 
> It has been but only with / and swap
> 
> else the system wouldn't boot; it just
> > wasn't the /etc/fstab you wanted. What I said is still correct. I was
> > able to use the devuan 3.0 text installer to create a custom
> > partitioning scheme inside the installer, and have various directories
> > placed in the partitions I wanted.
> 
> the point "text installer" make me nervios
> 

That's understandable, not everyone likes a purely text interface,
where what you want to do is chosen by typing numbers from a list. I
mention the text installer only because that is the one which I have
used, so can't speak to any of the GUI versions.

> > You still haven't explained exactly what you did, or which docs you
> > followed, so confirming that what you want to do is possible at least
> > in the text installer for devuan 3.0 is the best I can do to help you
> > at this point. When you create a partition in the installer, you need
> > to be sure to specify how the partition is to be used (E.G. swap,
> > ext4), and where it is to be mounted in the target directory tree.
> >
> 
> I used the installer from Beowulf image (copied to usb-stick), is there 
> anything else ?
> 
> I did:
> -boot from Stick -> gfx comes up
> -choose icon  install devuan
> -- after showing me the partitions, i run gparted
> and end up with a single partition install
> 
> were is the wrong turn ?

I haven't used the graphical Beowulf installer, and I use partman
instead of gparted during the install, so this is as far as I can help
you. Hopefully others more familiar with the process you're using will
be able to help you figure out how to create a custom partitioning
scheme with gparted.

Greg

> 
> 
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > > I guess i missed a point but i followed the docs so far.
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this expected or did i miss an option somewhere ??
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Without knowing exactly what you did, what exactly happened, and what 
> > > > you were
> > > > expecting to happen, that's as far as I can help you.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-01-31 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
Redirecting back to the list.


On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 04:34:56PM +0100, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2021 um 04:09 Uhr
> > Von: "Gregory Nowak via Dng" 
> > An: "Radisson via Dng" 
> > Betreff: Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:15:53PM +0100, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > > i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.
> > >
> > > I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.
> >
> > I can tell you that using the text based installer for Beowulf, I was
> > able to do manual partitioning without problems.
> >
> > >
> > > The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.
> >
> > If you're able to boot into the installed system, then /etc/fstab was
> > indeed created. At least some parts of the system will end up being
> > installed into /.
> >
> 
> You got me wrong,  i started the
> installer. i successfully created the whole partitioning but the whole setup
> was ignored the installer used / and installed everything there.

OK, I'll repeat back what you said as far as I understand it. You said you
used the installer to create a custom partitioning scheme, but the
installer ignored your partitioning scheme, and installed the entire
system into /, instead of mounting various partitions in the
appropriate mount points under /. Correct? If yes, then a /etc/fstab
must still have been created, else the system wouldn't boot; it just
wasn't the /etc/fstab you wanted. What I said is still correct. I was
able to use the devuan 3.0 text installer to create a custom
partitioning scheme inside the installer, and have various directories
placed in the partitions I wanted.

You still haven't explained exactly what you did, or which docs you
followed, so confirming that what you want to do is possible at least
in the text installer for devuan 3.0 is the best I can do to help you
at this point. When you create a partition in the installer, you need
to be sure to specify how the partition is to be used (E.G. swap,
ext4), and where it is to be mounted in the target directory tree.

Greg


> I guess i missed a point but i followed the docs so far.
> 
> > >
> > > Is this expected or did i miss an option somewhere ??
> > >
> >
> > Without knowing exactly what you did, what exactly happened, and what you 
> > were
> > expecting to happen, that's as far as I can help you.
> >
> > Greg
> >
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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-01-30 Thread Gregory Nowak via Dng
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 06:15:53PM +0100, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> i have installed beowulf from USB-Stick.
> 
> I worked so far but my private partition setup was ignored.

I can tell you that using the text based installer for Beowulf, I was
able to do manual partitioning without problems.

> 
> The /etc/fstab was not created, resulting an installation into /.

If you're able to boot into the installed system, then /etc/fstab was
indeed created. At least some parts of the system will end up being
installed into /.

> 
> Is this expected or did i miss an option somewhere ??
> 

Without knowing exactly what you did, what exactly happened, and what you were
expecting to happen, that's as far as I can help you.

Greg


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