Re: [DNG] Mass bug filing: use and misuse of dbus-launch (dbus-x11)

2016-09-18 Thread Miroslav Rovis
d how that alone is enough reason to use systemd, > and yet these same monuments to modern software proclaim their > multiseat, terminal-enabling technology is a reason to switch to > systemd, even though terminals had their heyday in 1984. Talk about > greybeards. > > One more t

Re: [DNG] sans-dbus: was Mass bug filing: use and misuse of dbus-launch (dbus-x11)

2016-09-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 160919-01:28-0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 00:16:02 +0200 > Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I read this great Devuan ML whenever I have time, and am still so > > excited to be using Devuan some day, > > To refresh everyone

Re: [DNG] sans-dbus: was Mass bug filing: use and misuse of dbus-launch (dbus-x11)

2016-09-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 160919-12:11+0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > ... > included dev1fanboy -- pls. add Firefox in the list: > > Ooohh... I can't find it now. Upon opening: > https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan > it tells me: > The repository for this project is empty

Re: [DNG] sans-dbus: was Mass bug filing: use and misuse of dbus-launch (dbus-x11)

2016-09-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 160919-08:11-1000, Joel Roth wrote: > Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Devuan-without-dbus > > apt-get remove dbus doesn't help with de**an packaged apps dependent on > dbus such as inkscape and liferea. > (unab

Re: [DNG] sans-dbus: was Mass bug filing: use and misuse of dbus-launch (dbus-x11)

2016-09-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
Thanks for more interest! Good news very likely coming! (And I'm happy I can stay a little bit longer ;-) ) On 160919-11:13-1000, Joel Roth wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 09:51:54PM +0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > On 160919-08:11-1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > &g

Re: [DNG] sans-dbus: was Mass bug filing: use and misuse of dbus-launch (dbus-x11)

2016-09-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 160920-00:52+0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Thanks for more interest! Good news very likely coming! (And I'm happy I > can stay a little bit longer ;-) ) > > On 160919-11:13-1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 09:51:54PM +0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: >

Re: [DNG] devuan jessie crashes during boot on 10 year old iMac

2016-10-11 Thread Miroslav Rovis
t; Is it possible my wheezy installation was a bit too minimal? > > > > Or maybe my /boot partition was bit too small? I set it at 256MB. > > > > All suggestions welcome. > > > > And as an FYI - dist-upgrade from squeeze to devuan-jessie fails

[DNG] Debuan Opennebula image minor stall at boot

2016-10-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
ng it, but it can't even be pinged. It appears dead. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-b

Re: [DNG] Debuan Opennebula image minor stall at boot

2016-10-16 Thread Miroslav Rovis
Just to clarify the (non existent) issue below. On 161016-00:02+0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Hi! > > I'm making some progress in using VMs, and here is what I managed with > Devuan Opennebula image, so far: > > http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-161015-qemu-devuan

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

2016-11-07 Thread Miroslav Rovis
rable moment in history! Thanks for the link! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan KVM guest install using ISO, virt-install and text based installation

2016-11-09 Thread Miroslav Rovis
thread: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/thread/20161106.150857.ddc5e862.en.html#20161106.150857.ddc5e862 [by sticking]: au:McGlashan in the search box, it's so much nicer and more readily used when you get the whole thread like for the other subject where you participated: https://lists.dyne.

Re: [DNG] Devuan KVM guest install using ISO, virt-install and text based installation

2016-11-09 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 161109-14:31+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Hi! > > I'll be looking into this tutorial, if... (see below) : > > On 161107-02:08+1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: ... > If this: > > Once the install was done, I dumped the xml, edited it, undefined the > > gu

Re: [DNG] Devuan KVM guest install using ISO, virt-install and text based installation

2016-11-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
han wrote: > Okay, doing a reply all to make sure that Miroslav gets this okay > > On 10/11/16 00:31, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > ... > > I said would [be looking into this tutorial, if...]. > > If this: > >> Once the install was done, I dumped the xml, ed

[DNG] Devuan KVM guest install using ISO, virt-install and text based installation

2016-11-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
aitor_czr! Pls. read my reply further below! On 16-20:35+0100, aitor_czr wrote: > > Hi Miroslav, > > > On 11/11/2016 01:00 PM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > Thanks for replying. > > > > However, my attempts got bogged down at: > > > > virt-install pla

Re: [DNG] Recent Security Update Discrepancy

2016-11-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
find my first reply where it belonged (but only after I manipulated the email headers in my reply): https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20161112.210850.af43950d.en.html On 16-20:35+0100, aitor_czr wrote: > > Hi Miroslav, > > > On 11/11/2016 01:00 PM, Miroslav Rovis wrote:

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

2016-11-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
e being discussed on this mailing list), but those that were banned did not reappear, apparently they were not admitted back, or? I hope this project still takes off in the future. With systemd the Linux is going to its own nice looking ruin (will be

Re: [DNG] recent debian-systemd-people gaffe

2016-11-28 Thread Miroslav Rovis
xactly happened here, not saying about here, but generally). And you never know how valuable supporter you are really losing, and what the insuing damage will be... Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___

Re: [DNG] recent debian-systemd-people gaffe

2016-11-28 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 161128-21:41+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... CORRECTION: > And allow me to say just one thing, you'll see why. > > SteveL who was lmao ([l]aughing [m] [a]ss [o]ut for a casual reader > visiting here] > ( MISPLACED: > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268-start-

Re: [DNG] recent debian-systemd-people gaffe

2016-11-29 Thread Miroslav Rovis
gt; the concepts underlying them. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital sig

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

2016-12-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
: > ... blank display and no booting activity ... It's related with ATI cards, but with the newer kernel than yours, so... (And there are some issues with some Nvidia cards on Gentoo users ML too.) Certainly, blank screen can indicate problems with graphics card... -- Miroslav Rov

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

2016-12-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 161215-19:31+, KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 08:14:25PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > It's related with ATI cards, but with the newer kernel than yours, so... > > > > (And there are some issues with

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

2016-12-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 161215-20:50+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Just worth trying, maybe... Some issues with memory and swap could be > overcome that way. Oh, no, not sway of course, but the RAM issues. Let it all purge out from RAM, just in case. -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFide

Re: [DNG] eudev status

2016-12-22 Thread Miroslav Rovis
> ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature __

[DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
ily and prominently: https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/unofficial_devuan_live/ NOTE: that username and password didn't work Pls. help/fix! (if I'm not mistaken in some way) -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc D

Re: [DNG] SSL certificate on devuan.org invalid

2017-02-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
=>] 507.26M 5.29MB/sin 87s 2017-02-23 13:02:43 (5.83 MB/s) - ‘devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta2_amd64.qcow2.xz’ saved [531904260/531904260] $ The image later verified (with the <...>.sha that I also downloaded. So this may not be an urgent matt

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170223-13:59+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > default login username and password for (live media) > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=573 ... no replies so far. > > So, in my Gentoo: > > $ qemu-system-x86_64 -cpu host -display gtk -m 1024M -machine \ >

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
Thanks for all the replies. To Hendrik, but also golinux, smallinovations.nl, KatolaZ, and even our kind leader Jaromil. On 170223-13:44-0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 05:32:36PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 04:26:46PM +0100, Miroslav Ro

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170224-11:46+, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:29:43PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > In the meantime, I believe the main conclusion to draw here, is set > > those suggestions in the Installation README, or anywhere close, su

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
f is > happening all over the place. ( Steve Litt in another email ) > > -- > GPG Key: 0769 AFCF 681E F61E 2137 F4CB 5044 1726 610D 5AE0 Your key imported here. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here (Alessandro Selli)

2017-03-14 Thread Miroslav Rovis
n of Firefox 52.0. I don't > > want to install PulseAudio in Devuan Linux system at all. Why should I? > > It's disturbing trend that some FOSS organization create false claim to > justify their new decision that breaks Linux system at the core. > > I gotta start hu

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a qemu VM guest

2017-03-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
ly, no issues with DNS. > > > > HTH, > > > > SteveT > > > > Steve Litt > > March 2017 featured book: Troubleshooting: Why Bother? > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/twb > > ___ ... > --

Re: [DNG] problem at talk.devuan.org?

2017-04-04 Thread Miroslav Rovis
s an issue, to my understanding; I already reported it to dev1galaxy.org maintainers -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] files.devua.org cert expired

2017-04-07 Thread Miroslav Rovis
rked on, because this is still the case? And it's very ugly... What users see in their browsers is the usual awful, hidious warning ( the "This connection is untrusted" over the entire page ) that no owner of any server in the world wants on their web... ( I _may_ be able to help

[DNG] BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
HA256SUMS_CHECK devuan_jessie_1.0.0-RC_amd64_DVD.iso: OK $ Do other readers get Jaromil's sig on that hash verified? (I'm also attaching the SHA256SUMS.asc SHA256SUMS and don't verify here.) -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr 39ac1f1cdd007

Re: [DNG] BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
rting more serious work on this. On 170423-17:24+0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > I already sent this message, but it's 110k altogether, and it's awaiting: > ... > Because I'm removing the network trace, which is 83k, and makes the > mail 110k (because of base64). The rest is

Re: [DNG] BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170423-22:30+0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > ... But the hashes *are* there > in my previous mail, and thanks to PGP they are verifiably exactly what > I sent...)... But I'll see to the missing information. I'm now starting > more serious work on this. Thanks, Rick for

Re: [DNG] BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
nd and heart before Jaromil's email to which this email of mine is a reply. Also it wasn't a "successful attack on Devuan leader's PGP keys" like I thought and wrote there, and thanks God for that! And the only place it will remain (somewhat) published by me, (and wi

Re: [DNG] BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170424-10:21-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > Also I was a little too harsh toward Rick. Sorry! > > Not the slightest offence taken. Very glad to read that! :) > I was just trying to help you and > others deal w

Re: [DNG] BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170424-17:28-0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:22:09 +0200 > Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > Hmmh... right now I'm having some health issues, and can only work at > > rather degraded level of efficiency... Do you have any links where I can > > r

[DNG] Creative Commons licenses, which are free? WAS: BAD sig with Devuan Jessie 1.0.0-RC

2017-04-25 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170424-15:59-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > IOW, I asked for links where it is explained why "the withholding of > > commercial-usage rights" "is not deemed an open source / free-software > >

Re: [DNG] Which is Free, Which is Open Source, is there any difference?

2017-04-26 Thread Miroslav Rovis
uot;)... that has already made for quite a number of killings by secret services. Likewise, I have no doubt many dissidents worldwide have been tortured and their death is on you, because of your spying and your selling of whatever the intelligence you gathered (ah, i

[DNG] unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle

2017-05-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
very few who decide for us all, recently even openly but quietly against free software: < same subject > https://lists.gt.net/gentoo/hardened/326254#326254 and the links from there, esp.: find "Shawn", and "Karen Sandler" Sincere regards! -- Mir

Re: [DNG] unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle

2017-05-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170512-22:32+0200, Jaromil wrote: > dear Miroslav, > > On Fri, 12 May 2017, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > [4] Will git.devuan.org be getting more reliable in availability, is > > that expected? I wouldn't mind that it couldn't possibly be as > >

Re: [DNG] unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle

2017-05-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170512-22:49+0200, Mathias Krause wrote: > Hi Miroslav, > > On 12 May 2017 at 22:06, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > [...] > > dpkg-gencontrol: error: illegal package name > > 'linux-headers-4.9.27-unofficial_grsec170512-14': character '_' not allo

Re: [DNG] unoffic-grsec 4.9.27 kernel compile, one last hurdle

2017-05-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170513-00:21+0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170512-22:49+0200, Mathias Krause wrote: > > Hi Miroslav, > > > > On 12 May 2017 at 22:06, Miroslav Rovis > > wrote: > > > [...] ... > > Thanks for testing! > Very glad that I'm getting useful.

[DNG] No mail attachments get to Devuan ML web (and worse) WAS: Help with xmodmap+xcape

2017-05-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
d not reply to me in a private message, because I would not forward a private message without asking him first. Pls. if any subscribers to DNG ML feel like, find his message in your mailbox: Message-ID: and see the headers in it (this is from my Mutt): Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 22:49:46 +0200

[DNG] Bash keyboard shortcuts working really ugly

2017-05-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
rs will be able to tell which programs is missing, and how to fix the above... Thanks in advance! --- [1] but haven't yet secured my Devuan well enough for unfethered browsing, so I'm not sure is this is the link (probably it is, but there would be more...): https://www.Croa

Re: [DNG] Bash keyboard shortcuts working really ugly

2017-05-24 Thread Miroslav Rovis
dbus, which then just does not allow pulling dbus in your system, because a number of people just want their system sans-dbus. Also generally in GNU/Linux and *nix (e.g. GnuPG developers refuse to not only depend on it, but refused to use dbus in any way)... I hope it's a little cl

Re: [DNG] Bash keyboard shortcuts working really ugly [SOLVED]

2017-05-25 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170525-06:51+0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2017 at 16:27:36 +0000 Miroslav Rovis > wrote: > ... > > > > mr@gd0v:~$ I am only trying to demonstate the issue. ERRATA: demonstrate > > > > That's ' I' in first editable space of the

Re: [DNG] Bash keyboard shortcuts working really ugly

2017-05-25 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170524-20:03-0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2017 22:28:22 + > Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > I'll also reply to Steve Litt's mail, > > [big snip] > > > You lose donuts/dollars :) ! It is xterm! And only xterm, in my > > Openbox. &g

Re: [DNG] Bash keyboard shortcuts working really ugly [SOLVED]

2017-05-29 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170526-14:52+0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Thu, 25 May 2017 at 07:30:29 + > Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > On 170525-06:51+0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 May 2017 at 16:27:36 + Miroslav Rovis > > > wrote: > > > [NOTE: ...

[DNG] grsecurity ripoff by Google, with Linus' approval WAS: I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-27 Thread Miroslav Rovis
us all. Kernel should be taken away from you! In whichever > way. Forked, best. And Arnt Karlsen, pls. do not compare grsecurity with systemd. It's as bad as putting a frog next to a horse or a knight next to a traitor and valuing them the same/honoring them with the same respect. -- Miros

Re: [DNG] grsecurity ripoff by Google, with Linus' approval WAS: I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-27 Thread Miroslav Rovis
gt;" of my initial message got for some reason not included... ) , and starts from: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170627.165050.fc63a9f2.en.html But I can tell you all straight, this is so sad! You guys don't get what geniuses we, Linux developers testers, users, have kind of

Re: [DNG] ascii-backports? for torbrowser-launcher install WAS: heads 0.3 released!

2017-06-30 Thread Miroslav Rovis
ff by Google, with Linus' approval WAS: I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii" was split at one time... If you reply from web, you don't get the "In-Reply-To: " header at all, it seems to me. But seeing that, I include it manually now... -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Miroslav Rovis
n programming/in development. And it's almost always later then they have been expected to happen. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-06-30 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170630-10:16-0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2017-06-30 09:20, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > > . . . (and although I can log in to GDO, I'm > > very clumsy at finding out things in there still, to be able to tell > > you). > > > > I often get

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

2017-07-01 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170630-13:16-0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jun 2017 14:20:08 + > Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > On 170629-19:34-0400, zap wrote: > > > not really complaining for the most part. But I am curious that's > > > all. > > I wish I knew better, b

Re: [DNG] Error updating ascii today

2017-07-02 Thread Miroslav Rovis
g/devuan ascii InRelease [129 kB] Get:3 http://amprolla.devuan.org/merged ascii-security InRelease [112 kB] Fetched 580 kB in 4s (144 kB/s) Reading package lists... I'm on amd64, (also) a rather old machine. But maybe not so old, 500M is nowhere a problem in this setup of mine.

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-03 Thread Miroslav Rovis
## ### > On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Bruce Perens wrote: > > > The specific text breached is "You may not impos

Re: [DNG] devuan packages explorer

2017-07-04 Thread Miroslav Rovis
* libmodule-pluggable-perl in jessie And if try to enter "g++" and Search results for: \"g \" Page 0 of 0 (0 rows) Just showing how the search went for my current (badly felt) need. ( and thanks for any eventual concrete advice/suggestion ) Regards! -- Miroslav Ro

Re: [DNG] devuan packages explorer

2017-07-04 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-01:42+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Tue, 2017-07-04 at 23:22 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > On 170704-17:40+0200, Gionni FireGarden wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > Once these are done some day soon, it will contribute for Devuan > > becoming such >

[DNG] Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) WAS: devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
This is just correcting the subject line, and if there are no replies, withdrawing. Widrawing to dev1galaxy.org forums: Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1115 On 170705-04:15+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170705-01:42+0

Re: [DNG] Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) WAS: devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-10:25+0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:15:11AM +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > t@gdOv:/home/mr# ls -l /etc/apt/ > > total 32 > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283 2017-07-03 18:15 apt.conf > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root roo

Re: [DNG] Broken packages in Ascii, how to fix? (Beware of Debian Stretch) WAS: devuan packages explorer

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
email, and also need to reply to KatolaZ now, before (but pls. I'll say a little more in my reply to KatolaZ')... Kind regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___

[DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-10:25+0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:15:11AM +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > [cut] > > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > build-essential : Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or > >

Re: [DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

2017-07-05 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-21:05+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > What is that /lib/init/vars.sh ? Which package should have installed it? What > could be the reason that it is missing? # dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/initscripts_2.88dsf-59.3+devuan2_amd64.deb reinstalled initscripts, and the /lib/init/v

Re: [DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

2017-07-06 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170705-23:48+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Wed, 2017-07-05 at 21:05 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > > What is that /lib/init/vars.sh ? Which package should have installed > > it? What > > could be the reason that it is missing? > > Please don't reb

Re: [DNG] error processing package initscripts, because /lib/init/vars.sh missing

2017-07-06 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170706-12:50+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 09:58 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > On 170705-23:48+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > > On Wed, 2017-07-05 at 21:05 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > ... > > > > > If you are on i386 or amd64

[DNG] The goodness of Palemoon WAS: error processing package initscripts

2017-07-07 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170706-13:13+0100, G.W. Haywood wrote: > Ooops. Sorry about the previous subject line, finger slipped. > > Hi there, > > On Thu, 6 Jul 2017, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > ... I'm currently without a GUI browser, because of: > > Building Pale Moon on Devua

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
hen I go (quote already brought up way up in this email... btw sorry for the mess, have already re-written it a few times, tired...): > apt-get source util-linux (Does not work for me. The Sources file is > unfortunately empty) > apt-get build-dep util-linux > cd util-linux-2.29.2 > dpkg-b

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170710-14:12+, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Hi Svante and everybody! > > (and zap, to whom you right as second person in the email I'm replying to. zap > might give useful advice, since he --later-- reported he successfully > installed > OpenRC) ... > By the way, if

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170710-13:28-0400, zap wrote: Well, zap... > > On 07/10/2017 11:26 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > On 170710-14:12+0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > >> Hi Svante and everybody! > >> > >> (and zap, to whom you right as second person in the email I'm r

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170710-20:38+0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 01:28:28PM -0400, zap wrote: > > On 07/10/2017 11:26 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > I've opened a topic: > > > OpenRC installation in Devuan Ascii > > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-10 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170710-23:39+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 14:12 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > Hi Svante and everybody! > > > > (and zap, to whom you right as second person in the email I'm > > replying to. zap > > might give useful advice, since

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-11 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170711-09:13-0400, zap wrote: > > > On 07/11/2017 06:01 AM, Svante Signell wrote: > > On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 03:56 +, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > >> On 170710-23:39+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > >>> On Mon, 2017-07-10 at 14:12 +, Miroslav Rovis w

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-11 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170711-18:12+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 15:35 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > $ ls -ltr sysvinit-utils_2.88dsf-59.9_amd64.deb \ > > > > > > > > This one is not OK, see below. Th

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170711-23:18+0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 17:26 +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > > Do I understand correctly that only these two packages it would be > > useful that they remain posted there on my website temporarily: > > > > -rw-r--r-

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170712-07:19-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > Now it's sorted right, I hope: > > OpenRC installation in Devuan Ascii > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1128#p328 > > > > And I

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-12 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170712-13:05-0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > It's good that you linked to it. May need testing. > > As per usual. ;-> > > > And is good advice to GNU/Linux users to try it. > > I particularly

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
:pkgDPkgPM "on"; Debug::Acquire::ftp "on"; Debug::Acquire::http "on"; Debug::Acquire::gpgv "on"; Debug::BuildDeps "on"; Debug::Hashes "on"; InstallProgress::Fancy "off"; Binary::apt::DPkg::Progress-Fancy "off"; Al

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170713-18:09+0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > On 13.07.2017 16:37, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > So true. I'm still banned from Gentoo Forums (also because I never asked to > > be > > back; I didn't feel I was to blame in the least). > >

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
ally change the subject, e.g. in case any of the senior members decide to write a more in-depth reply to these two Rick's recent emails. ) -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng m

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
can really, after all this time, finally tell you: Devuan runs great sans-dbus! And that is, to me, security-wise, privacy-wise (in prospective, only in prospective), a beautiful thing. Mirabile dictu! (as Rick Moen in some of his writing these days reminded me of that Latin saying: it's wond

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Miroslav Rovis
> Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... ;-3) > > Ave atque vale, > > Ron. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170716-12:10+0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 22:46:14 -0700, Rick wrote in message > <20170716054614.gi28...@linuxmafia.com>: > > > Quoting Miroslav Rovis (miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr): > > > > > But pls. people, I don't understan

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170716-13:18-0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:59:35 + > Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > Can't trust modern translations of Bible, actually so much undeserving > > of trust that they verge on disgusting... > > yet modern translations oft

Re: [DNG] I apologize, but I lost my email somehow with the, packages needed for openrc

2017-07-18 Thread Miroslav Rovis
that I needed, I didn't need the i386 for myself), and installed them with kind help from *you* (in that very topic linked above) and, of course, the OpenRC maintainer Svante and others. How long is the span of your attention, zap? :) -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.Cr

Re: [DNG] I apologize, but I lost my email somehow with the, packages needed for openrc

2017-07-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
nRC is deemed so good/tested-in-other-distros/well-maintained that it could become the default in Devuan. Our devs have expressed that understanding in various occasions on this ML. -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Descriptio

[DNG] Devuan Constitution and Social Contract WAS: Sexual politics and society

2017-07-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
; > On Sunday 16 July 2017 at 19:55:21, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ( https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20170716.185521.017ad951.en.html ) > > > P.S. I hope no one will produce any hatred of same-sex people out of my > > > words above. By all means, pls. no!, I only regard those fa

Re: [DNG] upgrade from Debian stretch to Devuan ascii?

2017-09-18 Thread Miroslav Rovis
derated. Without making for an (unknown duration) wait, maybe some of you can reply with full quote of my email, maybe by sending a fully forwarded email of mine? Thanks! Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] GNU/Linux security and grsecurity, WAS: upgrade from Debian stretch to Devuan ascii?

2017-09-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
d up https://citizenlab.ca/ but didn't find a way to ask there about help on my issue above repeated... I hope I haven't gone too much off topic. I presented my problem's basic aspects, and it's grsecurity that helped uncover it... unofficial-grsecurity that I try to offer tips a

Re: [DNG] security

2017-09-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170919-14:47-0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 02:47:00PM +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > I'm trying not to go off topic here... But just a few more words... > > Security in systems running Devuan is on topic here. We choose Devuan > in pa

Re: [DNG] GNU/Linux security and grsecurity, WAS: upgrade from Debian stretch to Devuan ascii?

2017-09-19 Thread Miroslav Rovis
esolved quickly and with no harm for you, Bruce. > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 10:30 zap wrote: > > > > > > > On 09/19/2017 10:47 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > ( citation manually inserted not to make two email replies; however, > > I'll skip > >

Re: [DNG] librezilla: [WAS: Has anyone tried waterfox?]

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
m pulseaudio: it's much easier rid yourself of pulseaudio in a lean and mean system, then in a DE-bloated system ). --- [1] audio works, but more testing would be needed, haven't tested all, because of google's intrusivity; they can put most any spyware in videos, and I&

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
; --- > xterm-color) color_prompt=yes;; 46c46 < #force_color_prompt=yes --- > force_color_prompt=yes 113a114,124 [...] it appears that I set: force_color_prompt=yes in my ~/.bashrc . And that actually gives me color'ed mr@gdOv:~$ (I'm not an expert as I

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
404689 \ > kern.log_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M%S)_$(hostname) (where 471743.404689 was taken from the terminal in bottom left where only "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" is running) So what about and how that command "helps you forget the root

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
Also thanks for the quick replies, one from Renaud, in other emails. But... (see below)... On 170923-16:24+0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/09/2017 à 15:50, Miroslav Rovis a écrit : > > On 170923-19:01+1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > On 23.09.17 10:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
line), as I wrote about it elsewhere today or yesterday: Palemoon, on pure ALSA, in my sans-dbus system --means I also recompiled Palemoon sans-dbus--, audio/video in HTML5 works here, as far as I tested it. Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr signature.a

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
Also a reply by Renaud, further in bottom (with the color codes! :-) ) On 170923-18:50+0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/09/2017 à 16:54, Miroslav Rovis a écrit : The targetpw, three lines below is key to understanding my query that I posted regarding the ability to forget the root password w

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170923-19:39+0200, Antoine wrote: > On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 03:12:23PM +0000, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > (...) > > > > Anybody got a quick tips page somewhere to find the exact color codes? Else > > I'm > > out of the discussion for now. Too much effo

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