Hi Nils and Peter,
Thanks for your email regarding the process.
On 14/09/2023 09:53, Peter Thomassen wrote:
Unlike draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis which has been adopted only in June
2023, draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping has been sitting there, with
several implementations and without any
Dear WG,
We have uploaded an updated agenda for the IETF 118 DNSOP sessions on
Tuesday (this afternoon) and Friday:
* https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/118/materials/agenda-118-dnsop-03
No major change for Tuesday (this afternoon) compared to the previously
published agenda. With the
) and quantum internet (QIRG).
Kind regards,
Benno Overeinder
DNSOP WG co-chair
On 19/09/2023 10:21, Von Johnson wrote:
Protect current Chrome TLS traffic against future quantum cryptanalysis
by deploying the Kyber768 quantum-resistant key agreement algorithm.
This is a hybrid X25519
Dear WG,
This is a Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 118 in Prague, Czech Republic.
DNSOP has been allocated two sessions, allowing us more discussion time
on individual drafts:
- Tuesday 7 November, 17:00-18:00, Congress Hall 3
- Friday 10 November, 9:30-11:30, Congress Hall 2
Please
the delegation management aspects of
my EPP object deletion draft?
Scott
On Oct 18, 2023, at 12:04 PM, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click
links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content
is safe.
Dear WG
agenda, please submit your request within
the next 24 hours by sending us an email or submitting a pull request
(details below).
Thanks,
Suzanne
Tim
Benno
On 18/10/2023 18:04, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear WG,
This is a Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 118 in Prague, Czech Republic.
DNSOP
Dear all,
This is a gentle reminder to the WG that the interim meeting is
scheduled for tomorrow, 24 May 2022, 17:00-18:00 UTC.
Regards,
Suzanne, Tim and Benno
On 14/05/2022 12:10, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear all,
All information for the interim meeting (agenda, drafts and the slides
All,
The Doodle poll is closed and we have selected:
Tuesday May 24, 17:00-18:00 UTC
The details and agenda of the interim meeting will be shared in a
separate email.
-- Benno
On 10/05/2022 00:08, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Hi all,
The following newly adopted DNSOP WG drafts
Dear all,
All information for the interim meeting (agenda, drafts and the slides
if they are available) can be found here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2022-dnsop-01/session/dnsop
Regards,
Suzanne, Tim and Benno
On 13/05/2022 19:55, IESG Secretary wrote:
The Domain Name
Hi all,
Gentle reminder, the poll runs until July 9.
Best,
-- Benno
On 27/06/2022 12:44, Tim Wicinski wrote:
All
We have six documents that have requested adoption from the working
group. My opinion is that we send out adoption calls for all of these
and let the working group sort it
Hi Paul,
On 07/07/2022 16:58, Paul Hoffman wrote:
On Jul 7, 2022, at 6:49 AM, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Gentle reminder, the poll runs until July 9.
Can you say how the poll will be used? There was pretty strong push-back after
the original announcement, and it's thus unclear how the poll
Hi Mike,
On 07/07/2022 17:21, Michael StJohns wrote:
On 7/7/2022 11:10 AM, Benno Overeinder wrote:
It helps us and the WG itself to prioritise WG activities and start a
regular WG call for adoption of a number of documents. We will share
the results of the poll with the WG and how to make
Dear WG,
This is the second Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 114, 23-29 July in
Philadelphia.
DNSOP WG is scheduled on Thursday, 28 July at 13:30-15:30 (EDT/UTC-4).
(See for IETF 114 agenda https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda/)
Please email the chairs with your requests.
*Or*
Hi Mike,
On 07/07/2022 20:26, Michael StJohns wrote:
On 7/7/2022 12:28 PM, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Conducting a survey (2 times now) has worked well over the past 1.5
years to prioritise finishing existing work and starting new work. Two
years ago we (as a WG) discussed how to manage
All,
The (draft) DNSOP WG agenda for the IETF 114 has been published, see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-114-dnsop/.
The agenda now spans the full 2 hours, but if new requests for existing
WG documents are received, room will be made and "time permitting"
drafts will be bumped off
Dear WG,
This is a Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 114, 23-29 July in
Philadelphia.
DNSOP has two sessions requested for the IETF 114:
dnsop Session 1 (2:00 requested)
(The preliminary IETF 114 agenda will be published later today on 24
June 2022.)
Please email the chairs with
On 24/06/2022 12:19, Benno Overeinder wrote:
DNSOP has two sessions requested for the IETF 114:
One session requested, not two.
dnsop Session 1 (2:00 requested)
-- Benno
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All,
An updated agenda has been posted on datatracker, see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-114-dnsop/.
Best regards,
-- Suzanne, Tim and Benno
On 12/07/2022 16:29, Benno Overeinder wrote:
All,
The (draft) DNSOP WG agenda for the IETF 114 has been published, see
https
We made some small changes to the agenda for Thursday, see for the
latest DNSOP WG agenda https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-114-dnsop/.
Best,
-- Suzanne, Tim and Benno
On 21/07/2022 08:18, Benno Overeinder wrote:
All,
An updated agenda has been posted on datatracker, see
https
Hi Lars, WG,
On 29/04/2022 12:54, Lars Eggert wrote:
On 2022-4-29, at 0:30, Cindy Morgan wrote:
The rest of this is a bit of a tangle, and I've referred it to the IESG for
further guidance on what steps the Secretariat should take next.
the IESG is reviewing what has happened.
(My
Mukund,
On 29/04/2022 22:27, Mukund Sivaraman wrote:
This is indeed how the DNSOP chairs see it and have guided the (new set of)
authors in this way. We have also asked Haisheng to contact the secretariat
to correct the situation as we cannot withdraw individual drafts or change
status.
Dear DNSOP WG,
We are planning our first DNSOP WG interim meeting for 2022 on May 24 or 25.
The DNSOP WG chairs are contacting the authors of two drafts that can be
put on the agenda. Details to follow.
Please fill in the Doodle poll to settle on a day and time:
-
with the name
draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-automation.
Thanks,
Suzanne, Tim and Benno
On 25/03/2022 16:35, Benno Overeinder wrote:
As with the previous Call for Adoption today, at this week's DNSOP
meeting at IETF 113, we announced that we are initiating a Call for
Adoption for the draft-wisser
with the name
draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping.
Thanks,
-- Benno
On 25/03/2022 16:27, Benno Overeinder wrote:
As announced during the DNSOP meeting this week at the IETF 113, we are
starting a Call for Adoption for the
draft-thomassen-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping. With the survey we
, Tim and Benno
On 29/04/2022 23:04, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear DNSOP WG,
We are planning our first DNSOP WG interim meeting for 2022 on May 24 or
25.
The DNSOP WG chairs are contacting the authors of two drafts that can be
put on the agenda. Details to follow.
Please fill in the Doodle
Dear DNSOP WG,
We are planning our second DNSOP WG interim meeting for 2022 in the week
of 26-30 September.
The draft draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis is on the agenda for the interim
meeting:
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/
Please fill in the Doodle poll to
Dear WG,
This is a Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 115 in London, UK.
DNSOP WG is scheduled on Tuesday, 8 November at 09:30-11:30 (GMT/UTC).
(See for IETF 115 agenda https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/agenda)
Please email the chairs with your requests. *Or*
drop us a pull request
Dear WG,
The DNSOP WG chairs welcome feedback on the draft
draft-homburg-add-codcp, Control Options For DNS Client Proxies
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-homburg-add-codcp/).
The draft was submitted to the ADD WG for discussion and review, but the
WG chairs and the int area AD
Hi all,
As mentioned on the mailing list, we have settled on a date for the
DNSOP WG virtual interim meeting on Monday, September 26, from 15:00 to
16:00 UTC.
The agenda for the interim is:
* Administrivia
- Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc, 5 min
* Current Working Group Business
- DNS
Hi all!
Gentle reminder to fill in the Doodle poll.
We will close the poll today, end-of-business day.
Best,
Suzanne, Tim and Benno
On 31/08/2022 19:56, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear DNSOP WG,
We are planning our second DNSOP WG interim meeting for 2022 in the week
of 26-30 September
:25, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Hi all!
Gentle reminder to fill in the Doodle poll.
We will close the poll today, end-of-business day.
Best,
Suzanne, Tim and Benno
On 31/08/2022 19:56, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear DNSOP WG,
We are planning our second DNSOP WG interim meeting for 2022
Hi Libor and Tom,
Thank you for submitting the draft. The first step is to receive
feedback from the WG on the mailing list and possibly with a
presentation of the draft during a DNSOP WG meeting.
If there is sufficient interest from the WG, the DNSOP chairs will start
with a formal call
Hi Peter,
On 04/11/2022 00:52, Peter Thomassen wrote:
On 11/3/22 17:44, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Questions:
1b. Does this also mean changing the definition of "out-of-bailiwick"
to a more historical definition as well? Or do we still need a
term for in-domain n
is correct that is the intent of the question
to the WG.
Best,
-- Benno
Dne 03. 11. 22 v 22:44 Benno Overeinder napsal(a):
Dear WG,
With the DNSOP rfc8499bis interim in September, we had the action
point to send two questions to the DNSOP WG to find consensus on the
bailiwick and glue
Thank you Paul and Kazunori.
The chairs agree that both drafts (glue-is-not-optional and rfc8499bis)
should go to WG Last Call together. We will coordinate this further
with the authors of both documents to move forward with the WGLC.
Best,
-- Suzanne, Tim and Benno
On 20/01/2023 16:34,
Dear WG,
With the DNSOP rfc8499bis interim in September, we had the action point
to send two questions to the DNSOP WG to find consensus on the bailiwick
and glue discussion.
You can find the interim meeting material here
Dear WG,
With the DNSOP rfc8499bis interim in September, we had the action point
to send two questions to the DNSOP WG to find consensus on the bailiwick
and glue discussion.
You can find the interim meeting material here
to suggest clarifying that paragraph. That brings me to your
question below:
On 11/25/22 14:38, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Thank you for your input and your suggestion to come up with a more
specific terminology for the "historical" out-of-bailiwick term. In
the definition of in-domai
there is an RFC:
https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/pull/12
Regards
Sara.
On 17 Feb 2023, at 15:51, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear DNSOP WG,
Following the latest consultation with the Working Group on bailiwick and
in-domain/sibling name servers terminology, the authors and chairs
mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/PBr7-ZMVYiqEzFalOFAQaMnPpFs/.
The document is now in WG consensus and waiting for write up state.
Best regards,
-- Benno
On 10/03/2023 18:21, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear WG,
Thank you for your feedback, also from Peter Thomassen in another email
thread about the glue definit
All,
The DNSOP WG agenda for the IETF 116 was published yesterday, see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-116-dnsop/.
We have a full agenda of almost 2 hours:
- DNSOP WG chairs update and administrativia: 25 min
- Current DNSOP WG documents: 30 min
- drafts for consideration: 50 min
-
All,
We would like to point out that discussions should be respectful and
about technical issues and not about the person.
Note that the DNSOP WG Chairs ensure that the IETF Guidelines for
Conduct, RFC 7154, are adhered to.
Thanks,
Benno, Suzanne and Tim
co-chairs DNSOP WG
On 16/02/2023
Dear DNSOP WG,
Following the latest consultation with the Working Group on bailiwick
and in-domain/sibling name servers terminology, the authors and chairs
believe this document has reached the stage of being ready for Working
Group Last Call.
Due to normative reference to
Dear WG,
This is a Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 116 in Yokohama, Japan.
Please email the chairs with your requests. *Or*
drop us a pull request
https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/wg-materials/tree/main/dnsop-ietf116
look for dnsop-ietf116-agenda-requests.md.
Please Note: Draft
Dear WG,
The WGLC was closed for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis, and the discussion
on lame delegation did not find consensus, but two specific suggestions
were put forward. We would like to include one of them in rfc8499bis if
we can get consensus to do so.
The chairs are seeking input on the
Thank you Paul.
The problem seems to be with DKIM and header rewriting by
ietfa.amsl.com. We are in contact to resolve this, but it doesn't seem
easy. Turning off DKIM on my side doesn't seem like an option, but we're
working on an alternative solution.
If anyone else has this problem using
Dear WG,
With the DNSOP interim meeting last June, we reworded the definition of
"lame delegation". This new definition of "lame delegation" has been
shared on the mailing list and included by the document authors in the
latest revision of the rfc8499bis draft,
Dear WG,
This ends the WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting.
The last call has been extended a bit longer than initially planned, but
valuable feedback has been received from the WG on the the draft. Thank
you very much.
The authors published a -05 revision a week ago that
Hi WG,
Gentle reminder to fill in the doodle to schedule the interim in June.
Will extend the poll until Thursday, June 1!
-- Benno
On 24/05/2023 16:11, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear WG,
As mentioned earlier on the mailing list, the chairs are planning an
interim meeting in June
Dear WG,
As mentioned earlier on the mailing list, the chairs are planning an
interim meeting in June to discuss the three options on how to proceed
with draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis wrt. lame delegation:
1) Stick with the current text in the document – the original definition
from RFC8499
Dear DNSOP WG,
The authors and the chairs feel this document has reached the stage
where it's ready for Working Group Last Call.
This starts a Working Group Last Call for:
draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting.
Current versions of the draft is available here:
Dear WG,
From the Doodle poll, we have selected the following day and time:
Tuesday June 20, 18:00-19:00 UTC.
We will post the interim meetecho details to the mailing list later today.
Best regards,
Suzanne, Tim and Benno
On 30/05/2023 17:31, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Hi WG,
Gentle
Dear WG,
Thank you for your thoughtful feedback during the WGLC for the revised
lame delegation definition. With this email, we close the WGLC for
rfc8499bis.
With the discussion and feedback during the interim and with the WGLC on
the mailing list, the chairs have determined there is
Hi kc,
On 17/07/2023 21:41, k claffy wrote:
I agree it would greatly help to include the more precise terms.
Note that Scott's current EPP draft is still using this term,
citing the definition in 1912. Should the term be removed from
Scott's draft, or acknowledged that it is now historic?
Dear WG,
A new agenda for the IETF 117 DNSOP WG meeting on Monday, July 24,
0930-1130 PDT (1630-1830 UTC) has been published, see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/117/materials/agenda-117-dnsop-01
The agenda also includes URLs to MeetEcho and Zulip.
Best regards,
Suzanne
Tim
Benno
Dear WG,
This is a Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 117 in San Francisco,
California.
Please email the chairs with your requests. *Or*
drop us a pull request
https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/wg-materials/tree/main/dnsop-ietf117
look for dnsop-ietf117-agenda-requests.md.
Please Note:
that
the document is ready for submission to IESG for publication.
Thanks!
-- Benno
On 08/06/2023 11:59, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear DNSOP WG,
The authors and the chairs feel this document has reached the stage
where it's ready for Working Group Last Call.
This starts a Working Group Last
Hi all, Paul,
On 17/06/2023 22:59, Paul Hoffman wrote:
Greetings again. A bunch of you have opinions in this area. In advance
of our WG interim meeting on Tuesday, it would be grand if people with
opinions would review those opinions and review the threads on the list
where other peoples'
Dear WG,
We have agenda, slides and meeting details for Meetecho, Zulip, etc.,
available on datatracker:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2023-dnsop-01/session/dnsop
Best,
-- Benno
On 06/06/2023 16:19, IESG Secretary wrote:
The Domain Name System Operations (dnsop) WG will
next week.
In the meantime, please continue the discussion.
Best regards,
-- Benno
On 27/04/2023 22:05, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear WG,
The WGLC was closed for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis, and the discussion
on lame delegation did not find consensus, but two specific suggestions
were put forward.
Dear WG,
The extended WGLC for rfc8499-bis did not conclude with rough consensus
on either of the two proposed definitions of the term "lame delegation".
There was some consensus in a subthread on one of the proposed
definitions, earlier formulated on the mailing list, see the original
:
# DNS Operations (DNSOP) Working Group
## interim-2024-dnsop-01
### Chairs
* Benno Overeinder [be...@nlnetlabs.nl](be...@nlnetlabs.nl)
* Suzanne Woolf [suzworldw...@gmail.com](suzworldw...@gmail.com)
* Tim Wicinski [tjw.i...@gmail.com](tjw.i...@gmail.com)
### IESG Overlord
* Warren Kumari [war
Hi Ólafur,
On 08/02/2024 16:48, Ólafur Guðmundsson wrote:
Quick questions
why a new list and what is that lists standing in the IETF?
Is this precursor for a BOF and possible new working group ?
For now, the mailing list is a non-WG list on a specific topic. If
there is a new WG after the
Dear WG,
This is a Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 119 in Brisbane, Australia.
DNSOP has requested two sessions for the IETF 119 so that we have
sufficient time to discuss individual drafts. The allocation of two
sessions is yet to be confirmed and the preliminary IETF119 agenda will
be
Dear DNSOP WG,
The authors and contributors of the DELEG document have made good
progress since the IETF 118 meeting, where they initially presented
their ideas. During the IETF 118 DNSOP meeting, Petr Spacek shared the
outcomes of the two-day Hackathon session and introduced the initial
,
-- Benno
On 12/01/2024 13:34, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear DNSOP WG,
The authors and contributors of the DELEG document have made good
progress since the IETF 118 meeting, where they initially presented
their ideas. During the IETF 118 DNSOP meeting, Petr Spacek shared the
outcomes of the two-day
Dear all,
We have added two /time permitting/ presentations to the DNSOP WG agenda
for Friday 15:00-16:30 AEST/05:00-06:30 UTC.
For the latest DNSOP agenda, see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-119-dnsop/.
Best,
Suzanne, Tim and Benno
18th, from 15:30 to 17:00 AEST (5:30-7:00 UTC)
- Friday, March 22nd, from 15:00 to 16:30 AEST (5:00-6:30 UTC)
The deadline for draft submissions is next Monday, March 4th, 2024.
Best regards,
Suzanne
Tim
Benno
On 09/02/2024 15:38, Benno Overeinder wrote:
Dear WG,
This is a Call for Agenda
All,
We are pleased to announce that the draft agenda for the IETF 119 DNSOP
sessions has been published. The sessions are scheduled as follows:
- Monday, March 18, 2024, from 15:30 to 17:00 AEST (05:30-07:00 UTC)
- Friday, March 22, 2024, from 15:00 to 16:30 AEST (05:00-06:30 UTC)
You can
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Subject: I-D Action: draft-toorop-dnsop-ranking-dns-data-00.txt
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2024 13:12:26 -0800
From: internet-dra...@ietf.org
To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org
Internet-Draft draft-toorop-dnsop-ranking-dns-data-00.txt is now available.
Title: Ranking
Hi all,
Speaking as one of the DNS implementers and as part of providing
feedback on the current draft revision, we have reformulated
recommendation R2. It expresses the intention not to fragment UDP
packets and points out that different operating systems have different
ways of achieving
Benno Overeinder has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis-06 as
Internet Standard on behalf of the DNSOP working group.
Please verify the document's state at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc2845bis/
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Benno Overeinder has requested publication of
draft-ietf-dnsop-multi-provider-dnssec-03 as Informational on behalf of the
DNSOP working group.
Please verify the document's state at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-multi-provider-dnssec
Benno Overeinder has requested publication of
draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang-02 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the
DNSOP working group.
Please verify the document's state at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang
Benno Overeinder has requested publication of
draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-06 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the
DNSOP working group.
Please verify the document's state at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting
Benno Overeinder has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis-08 as
Best Current Practice on behalf of the DNSOP working group.
Please verify the document's state at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/
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