Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Hello- I'm emailing from UK. Have some problems sharing a LibreOffice Vanilla file - anyone available to help me via email now?
Original Message From: Michael Sefton [mailto:mseft...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022, 15:10 UTC To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Hello- I'm emailing from UK. Have some problems sharing a LibreOffice Vanilla file - anyone available to help me via email now? > thanks > mike sefton Hi Mike, No, the documentation mailing list is not user support. Either post to us...@global.libreoffice.org or Use the forum: https://ask.libreoffice.org/c/english/5 Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to for syntax highlighting code
Please note I am subscribed to this list, so it is unnecessary to send a duplicate post directly to me. Replying in-line. On 29/03/2022 23:01, flywire wrote: > Can you comment in terms of experience formatting code in the guide? It is unclear what you are asking me to comment on. My experience of this project goes back to 2010 and beyond, during which time I have contributed to a number of guides, I am also one of the authors of the current 7.x guide template. > I previously commented code colorization should be part of the style running > any macro behind the scenes. It isn't (ie changing the template does > nothing). As explained below, the "Code" style of the 7.x guide template can be changed to any Font Color the docs team wish it to be. I am starting to think we might be talking at cross purposes. I am talking about a style used in the OTT template used to produce our user guides and I suspect you are referring the styling of code used to produce the software. These are two entirely different subjects. Maybe the use of the term "Code" has led to some misunderstanding. Our user guides do not contain any usable programming code, but where a guide needs to explain/illustrate something like one or two lines of Basic code, the guide author uses the "Code" style as defined below. > If you look through the guides you'll see a lot of inconsistency > from random processes. Please cite a few specific examples of where the docs team have overlooked this apparently endless stream of errors and inconsistencies. >1. Extension configuration is not specified anywhere Please explain what you mean by "Extension configuration". It sounds like a reference to a software OXT extension, which is something the docs team have no direct control over. >2. The code style does not color the text, it's done externally or maybe >using this macro The 7.x guide template clearly defines the "Code" style: * Font = Liberation Mono, Regular, 11 pt. * Font Color = Automatic (ie. Black) with no other effects. * Area = Light Gray 5 All of those attributes, including Font Color, can be changed in the 7.x guide template. >3. The extension also styles text which can conflict with the >documentation style So why add an unnecessary possible conflict? >4. The hotkey description would be better replaced by a link. What has a "hotkey description" got to do with a documentation template style? > The whole process is pretty poor. I am sure the entire docs team would welcome an explanation of what we have been doing so "poorly" over the years. > On top of that, copy/paste doesn't work > in pdf - The issue being discussed here is about the styling used in the 7.x guide template used to produce the original Open Document Text files for our user guides. > https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00295.html The link you cite one of your own posts complaining about what you perceive to be defects in the way LibreOffice creates PDF files from ODF files. This is matter you should raise with the developer and/or QA teams, since the docs team have no control over this. Sorry but your macro proposal would provide no additional benefit to the production of our user guides, but would add unnecessary complications for our authors. > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:39 AM Dave Barton wrote: > >> Why has this unnecessary macro operation been added to chapter 2 of the >> "Producing LibreOffice User Guides"? >> We already have a perfectly good "Code" style in the 7.2x template. If >> the docs team feel the style needs changing/improving then let's simply >> agree on a revision of the template, not by adding more complexity to >> documentation production. >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Long march towards accessibility
On 29/03/2022 11:55, Olivier Hallot wrote: > Hi Team > > LibreOffice has a tool to check some elements of accessibility (a11y) in > documents: > > Choose Tools - Accessibility check > > I ran the tool in a random chapter and found some issues, for example: > > - No alt text for graphic 'Image2' > - The text formatting conveys additional meaning. > - Text contrast is too low. > - Hyperlink text is the same as the link address > 'https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/' > > It may be necessary to define a set of rules to address a11y in our > chapter. For example, a shorter caption text can serve as 'alt text' of > images. Other issues may demand for a change in formatting and contents > display (merged cells in tables). > > Let's run the tool in the chapters, within the review process, ensuring > we are in the way to turn our guides and other production accessible. > > More information on the Help page > https://help.libreoffice.org/master/en-US/text/swriter/01/accessibility_check.html?DbPAR=WRITER#bm_id551630942369429 > > > Cheers Hi Olivier, I would agree that we should pay more attention to a11y in our documentation. However, I feel the Accessibility Check tool needs additional work to raise it up to a more useable level. Just some rough basic examples: * I run the tool on some of my own documents and it shows headings for all possible issues in the document, not just those that actually do exist in the document and need consideration. Creating confusion for inexperienced users. * The dialog shows 2 instances of items where "The text formatting conveys additional meaning." is displayed, when the document actually has a total of 8 identical issues. * Clicking the "Go to issue" dialog button highlights a 1/2 special character, which tells the user absolutely nothing about the accessibility issue, IF ANY. I haven't yet checked Bugzilla, but I feel this needs to be drawn to the devs attention. You are probably aware that the "Help" button in the Accessibility Check dialog generates a 404 page error. Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to for syntax highlighting code
On 29/03/2022 13:52, flywire wrote: > Can someone confirm the process in: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_for_syntax_highlighting_code > > Issues: > * macro should just set colors without altering style > * red and green as the predominant colors is a poor choice for > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness > * keywords highlighted within function names is suspect > * inconsistent end of line characters > * random large text > * > https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00295.html > > There is better syntax highlighting code these days. Why has this unnecessary macro operation been added to chapter 2 of the "Producing LibreOffice User Guides"? We already have a perfectly good "Code" style in the 7.2x template. If the docs team feel the style needs changing/improving then let's simply agree on a revision of the template, not by adding more complexity to documentation production. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Where do I Find subject on tab settings
From:Donald H. Taylor [mailto:dtaylor...@hotmail.com] Sent:Wednesday, October 20, 2021, 21:06 UTC To:documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject:[libreoffice-documentation] Where do I Find subject on tab settings I am trying to set up a table for filling with words and numbers that need to be vertically and horizontally aliened. There will be about 25 lines horizontally and about 6 columns wide, on a 8 and � by 11� paper. Can you help on this? There will be anywhere from one to 30 or so numbers aliened vertically, along with 1 to 30 words in a column. I have other wrodprossers, but I like this betterHi Donald,Sorry, but the mailing list you have posted to is reserved for discussions about documentation development, not for answering user questions.User support is provided by posting to the user mailing list:users@global.libreoffice.orgor by visiting thehttps://ask.libreoffice.org/c/englishforum.You will most likely find the answer to your question by reading the chapters about "Tables" and "Paragraph Formatting" in the Writer User Guide, available for download (free of charge) from:https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Writer_GuideI trust this will be of some help.RegardsDave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS - Base chapter - database files
On 06/09/2021 13:55, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > Hello, > > for localization purposes I would need the (English or localized) databases > (odb) appearing/used in the Base chapter. > > I can't find them on the nextcloud site, maybe I am missing something. > > Best regards, > Martin Hi Martin, I am not 100% sure which specific odb files you are seeking, but most can be found in the Base 6.4 & 7.0 "Supplement" sub-folders. Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] re. Accessing NextCloud
On 18/05/2021 08:30, Elzett Kotze wrote: > Hey there, > > Peter Schofield has directed me to this email address. Hope you can assist > > I'm new to the group and will start to help him review the Draw 7.1 > chapters. > > I created my Single Sign On Account, got confirmation, but when I want to > logon to the cloud ( https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org) I received > the following message. > > > *Account not provisioned. * > > *Your account is not provisioned, access to this service is thus not > possible.* > > Not sure if I must wait or still do anything else. Would appreciate some > assistance. Would like to start reviewing. > > Kind Regards, > Elzett Kotze To assist Elzett in getting started, I have forwarded copies from the WIP folder of: DG7100-Preface for 1st. Review and DG7101-IntroducingDraw for 2nd. Review. I have updated the Guide Status Worksheet on behalf of Elzett. Elzett estimates that the reviews will be returned by 1st. June. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] re. Accessing NextCloud
On 18/05/2021 08:30, Elzett Kotze wrote: > Hey there, > > Peter Schofield has directed me to this email address. Hope you can assist > > I'm new to the group and will start to help him review the Draw 7.1 > chapters. > > I created my Single Sign On Account, got confirmation, but when I want to > logon to the cloud ( https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org) I received > the following message. > > > *Account not provisioned. * > > *Your account is not provisioned, access to this service is thus not > possible.* > > Not sure if I must wait or still do anything else. Would appreciate some > assistance. Would like to start reviewing. > > Kind Regards, > Elzett Kotze Hi Elzett, The Docs Team Coordinator (Olivier Hallot) is the only member of the team who can provision your account for access to the documentation Nextcloud instance. Olivier is a fairly busy guy, but I am sure he will provision your account asap. Please be patient. Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] re. access to the LibreOffice Documentation
Original Message From: Elzett Kotze [mailto:elz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021, 08:10 UTC To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] re. access to the LibreOffice Documentation > Hi, > > I got my SSO username from TDF's authentication services and my login has > been confirmed. How do I now get access to the LibreOffice Documentation > folder. > > I am busy working through the Documentation Contributors' Guide. > > I would love to start assisting with reviewing/editing content. > > Please advise. > > Kind regards, > > Elzett Welcome Elzett, Our team coordinator will see this message and establish your access to the Documentation Nextcloud instance. You are free to choose whatever documentation you want to work on, but one of our long term contributors (Peter Schofield) has been working hard to prepare the initial draft of the Draw Guide for LO 7.1 and you might wish to review some of the completed initial draft chapters. Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Attribution as an author of Calc Guide
Hi Filipe, Knowing Stefan from his previous contributions to the project, I don't believe he is asking for anything more than a simple acknowledgement, by adding his name to the "Contributors To previous editions" on the "Copyright" page of this and future guides. This and every other guide we produce is based on the original OOo guides (most of which Jean was _mainly_ responsible for), so I don't think it is necessary to add more explanations of our origins than those that already exist. Best Regards Dave On 28/04/2021 13:19, Felipe Viggiano wrote: > Jean, > > > About the matter raised by Stefan Weigel, I noticed that in the Chapter > 08 from Calc Guide 4.1 there is a mention to the original authors: > > "/This chapter is based on and updated from Chapter 8 of the > OpenOffice.org 3.3 Calc Guide, which was adapted from a German original > written by Stefan Weigel and translated into English by Sigrid > Kronenberger.../" > > > Perhaps we can insert something like this in the chapter to be > published, a suggestion: > > "/This chapter is an adaptation from an originally written in german > chapter by Stefan Weigel and translated into English by Sigrid > Kronenberger./" > > > What do you think about this? > > > Best regards, > > Felipe Viggiano > > > Em 27/04/2021 16:00, Stefan Weigel escreveu: >> Dear active community, >> >> would you mind adding my name to the contributors section of the >> Calc Guide since I am the original author of chapter 8? >> Respectively, as well, would you please attribute me as the original >> author in the prefix of chapter 8, which is published as a separate >> file? >> >> As a matter of fact I am no longer active in the project. Also I am >> not subscribed to this mailing list anymore (and I hope some >> moderator will pick up this message ;-) ). >> >> However the Pivot Table chapter in the manual still reflects the >> main structure as well as a good portion of my wording and >> illustrations that I created formerly in my initial version in >> German and which I published in September 25th, 2008 under the >> CC-BY-SA license. >> >> Thanks for your cooperation and sorry for the inconvenience. >> >> Cheers, >> Stefan Weigel >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Review Calc Pivot Tables
This is to let the list know that I am attempting to assist Vasudev with his issue off-list. Dave Original Message From: Vasudev Narayanan [mailto:vasudev.naraya...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021, 04:44 UTC To: da...@libreoffice.org; documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Review Calc Pivot Tables > Greetings - > > It appears my user-id requires access to edit a file in the NextCloud > Folder. I am able to open the guide status spreadsheet. However, I am > unable to add/edit any cell values. Can someone assist? > > Meanwhile, I will begin reviewing Chapter 8- Pivot tables. > > Thank you > -Dev > > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Barton > To: Vasudev Narayanan ; > documentation@global.libreoffice.org > Sent: Sat, Apr 24, 2021 1:15 am > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Review Calc Pivot Tables > > > Original Message > From: Vasudev Narayanan [mailto:vasudev.naraya...@aol.com > <mailto:vasudev.naraya...@aol.com>] > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021, 14:47 UTC > To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org > <mailto:documentation@global.libreoffice.org> > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Review Calc Pivot Tables > >> Greetings - >> I intend to review Chapter 8 - Pivot Tables of Calc guide bearing > CG7108-PivotTables as the filename. Kindly let me know if I could > proceed further. >> >> Thank you-Dev > > Hi Dev, > > If you want to review a chapter of any guide, you do not have to ask. > > Assuming that you: > a) Have Access to our NextCloud instance > and > b) Are subscribed to the documentation mailing list, > just go ahead and: > > * Download a copy of the chapter from NextCloud. > * Open the guide status spreadsheet inside NextCloud. > * Add your name and initials to the guide contributors. > * Add your initials to the "Rev2" column of the chapter. > * Post a message to this mailing list to list, > telling other contributors what you are doing > and the estimated date by which you expect to > complete and return your review. > > If you are unsure about anything, or need more help/information, > please do not hesitate to ask on this list. > > Thank you for wanting to contribute to the documentation team effort. > > Best Regards > Dave > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Review Calc Pivot Tables
Original Message From: Vasudev Narayanan [mailto:vasudev.naraya...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021, 14:47 UTC To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Review Calc Pivot Tables > Greetings - > I intend to review Chapter 8 - Pivot Tables of Calc guide bearing > CG7108-PivotTables as the filename. Kindly let me know if I could proceed > further. > > Thank you-Dev Hi Dev, If you want to review a chapter of any guide, you do not have to ask. Assuming that you: a) Have Access to our NextCloud instance and b) Are subscribed to the documentation mailing list, just go ahead and: * Download a copy of the chapter from NextCloud. * Open the guide status spreadsheet inside NextCloud. * Add your name and initials to the guide contributors. * Add your initials to the "Rev2" column of the chapter. * Post a message to this mailing list to list, telling other contributors what you are doing and the estimated date by which you expect to complete and return your review. If you are unsure about anything, or need more help/information, please do not hesitate to ask on this list. Thank you for wanting to contribute to the documentation team effort. Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide Review
On 01/04/2021 20:02, Dave Barton wrote: > > Peter has put a lot of work into updating the Draw and Impress Guides. > To help move publication of the Draw Guide Draw Guide 7.1 along, I have > taken DG7103-WorkingWithObjects for first review. Estimated return date > is 8th. April 2021. > > Dave > > PS. Sorry if post is duplicated. I use too many email addresses. I have now completed my review of DG7103-WorkingWithObjects and returned it to the WIP folder. The Status spreadsheet has been updated. The reviewed document has a small number of suggested text changes and a couple of comments. One comment on a specific point is if we want to expand the guide to cover the "Legacy" toolbars, or simply add a note to the "Slant and corner radius" section of this chapter, to avoid misleading the reader. The same consideration should be given to the Help page: https://help.libreoffice.org/7.1/en-GB/text/shared/01/05230400.html Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users] How to round corners of rectangle shape in Draw?
Hi Regina, On 11/04/2021 02:11, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Dave, > > it is a longer mail, but hopefully it is clearer then. > > Dave Barton schrieb am 10.04.2021 um 18:35: >> Hi Regina, >> >> Thanks for taking the time to reply, but I must be naturally stupid or >> blind, because I cannot locate these "Custom Shapes" and "Legacy >> Rectangles" you refer to. >> >> As a member of the documentation team I am working to assist in the >> creation of the Draw User Guide for LO 7.1, but your answer leaves me >> and I am sure other members of the team, unsure how we can explain these >> "Custom Shapes" and "Legacy Rectangles" to our users. Any pointers you >> feel able to offer in this respect would be much appreciated. >> >> In the "Position and Size" Dialog there is no control for the corner >> radius of "Rounded Rectangle" shapes. Yes, it's possible to grab and >> drag the radius handle for the object on the page, but this provides >> zero accuracy for the adjustment. >> >> I have only been a user of this software for 20+ years and an advocate >> of LO for 10+ years and now I feel that I no longer understand it. > > Remember back to OpenOffice.org 1.0. At that time none of those shapes > like "Moon" or "Diamond" exists. They were introduced in OOo2.0. > OOo1.1.5 had only got the ability to show them, but could not work on them. > > This new added type of shapes are written to file as element > . They have an own chapter "10.6 Custom Shape" in the > ODF specification. The term "custom shape" does rarely appear in the UI, > but I use it as umbrella term, because they are named in file and spec > that way. The only place were I know "Custom shape" in the UI, is the > "Text" tab of a Drawing style. > https://docs.oasis-open.org/office/OpenDocument/v1.3/cs02/part3-schema/OpenDocument-v1.3-cs02-part3-schema.html#__RefHeading__1415908_253892949 > > > These 'custom shapes' are grouped in toolboxes e.g. "Basic Shapes", > "Block Arrows" and "Stars and Banners". Those you should know. If you > are unsure, whether a shape is a 'custom shape' or not, you can look at > the icon "Toggle extrusion". It is only enabled for 'custom shapes'. > > In the beginning the Drawing toolbar had icons for the rectangle and > ellipse known from OOo1.0. The toolbox "Basic Shapes" contains > rectangles and ellipses among others too. That results in lot of > confusions, like you are confused. Therefore rectangle and ellipse from > OOo1.0 were removed form the Drawing toolbar, so that they are hidden. > These shapes from OOo1.0 were collected in two toolbars "Legacy > Rectangles" and "Legacy Circles and Ovals". The term 'legacy' indicates, > that these are shapes from OOo1.0. You find these toolbars same as other > toolbars in menu View > Toolbars. > > If you want to integrate these legacy shapes into the Drawing toolbar, > that is possible via Tools > Customize. Search for "rectangle" and use > that one, that has command .uno:RectangleToolbox in the description, and > search for "ellipse" and use that one, that has command > .uno:EllipseToolbox in the description. > > There had been some discussions, what to do with the "rounded corner" > part of the "Position" dialog, if it is not applicable. It has been > decided, only to disable it. I would have preferred, that it is hidden. > > In the beginning, there exists no UI at all for numerically setting the > handles of the 'custom shapes'. In the meantime you have a section in > the lower part of the "Slant and Corner Radius" tab of the > "Position" dialog. The "Control point" fields can be used in most > cases to numerically set the position of a custom shape handle. Only > more than three handles and radial handles (those modify an angle) > cannot be set with these fields. The values are coordinates relative to > the left/top corner of the rectangle/parallelogram, which you see, when > you have selected the shape. > > I consider it a deficit in the Draw User Guide, that it does not clearly > distinguish the different kind of shapes. > > And in regard to 'custom shapes', there is so much to say about them for > advanced users, that it would make an entire book. See for example the > wiki page > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Text_in_Custom_Shapes, > or for example, do you know, that the "Fontwork" shapes are 'custom > shapes' too, or do you know how to make your own 'custom shape'? > >
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO Community disclaimer? Was: Writer Guide update
On 10/04/2021 10:39, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > Hello, > > V V pet., 9. apr. 2021 ob 11:19 je oseba Jean Weber > napisala: > >> I agree with Felipe that a long Disclaimer is not necessary, but .perhaps >> we might add a short sentence like, “Other versions of LibreOffice may >> differ in appearance and functionality.” >> > > Jean, I find your proposal great. +1 from me. > > Lp, m. Also +1 from me. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide Review
Peter has put a lot of work into updating the Draw and Impress Guides. To help move publication of the Draw Guide Draw Guide 7.1 along, I have taken DG7103-WorkingWithObjects for first review. Estimated return date is 8th. April 2021. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide Review
Peter has put a lot of work into updating the Draw and Impress Guides. To help move publication of the Draw Guide Draw Guide 7.1 along, I have taken DG7103-WorkingWithObjects for first review. Estimated return date is 8th. April 2021. Dave PS. Sorry if post is duplicated. I use too many email addresses. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Unable to open in clac format
Please note this is a documentation development mailing list, NOT user support. For user support please contact us...@global.libreoffice.org or visit the user forum: https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/help/ Original Message From: Suraj1 Gade [mailto:suraj1.g...@axisbank.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2021, 12:05 UTC To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Unable to open in clac format > Dear Team, > > I am opening my Excel sheet but automatically it opens in excel format not in > Clac Format > > kindly Help > > Regards > > Suraj Gade -294097 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Templates dialog problem
Answering in-line. Original Message From: RIYADH TALAL [mailto:riyadhta...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2021, 17:41 UTC To: Dave Barton Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Templates dialog problem > Hi, > > Jean Weber was talking about LO 7.1 (and you were asking about 7.1.1.2). Irrelevant. Jean did not specifically identify which of the 7.1.x releases she was referring to, but the situation is identical in all the currently available 7.1.x versions. > If it is fine for you to have the button not-activated if there was no > document opened, then it is ok. This is a documentation development list, not a discussion forum about software bugs. Where did I say that this was or wasn't an issue for me? > If not, then you may submit a bug report (the displayed templates in the > "internal window" are diverse and have nothing to do with the type of > opened document. I require no instruction about when or for what to submit bug reports, thank you. > So, one might ask developers to make those templates > available even before opening any document; as there is no logic why it > is not possible). Again, this is a documentation development list, not a discussion forum about software bugs and features. > For 7.2 dev, I tested on win 10 and it crashed, yes. Not surprising for alpha code still under development. BTW I am subscribed to this list, so directly sending me duplicates of your posts is unnecessary. > On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 8:07 PM Dave Barton <mailto:da...@libreoffice.org>> wrote: > > On 18/03/2021 16:10, sophi wrote: > > Hi, > > Le 18/03/2021 à 16:39, Dave Barton a écrit : > >> Can you advise where you see this button when a document is open? > Under > >> Windows 10 LO Version: 7.1.1.2 (x64) I only see the "Extensions" > button > >> at the bottom of the left hand panel in the start center. > Clicking that > >> button opens the link: https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en > > > > It doesn't work from the start center, but open a Writer document for > > example, then File > Templates > Manage Templates, in the dialog that > > opens, the extension button is opening a window populated with > template > > extensions. At least, under my linux 7.1.0.2 version it works well > (and > > I don't experimental features activated. > > Cheers > > Sophie > > Hi Sophie, > > Thanks for the pointer. It's true that clicking the "Extensions" button > in the Templates Manager dialog does nothing if a document is not open, > but when a document is open the "Extensions" button in the Templates > Manager dialog opens another internal dialog displaying a scrolling list > of downloadable templates. The above is true for me in LO Version: > 7.1.1.2 under both Windows 10 and Linux. > > Under LO 7.2 dev. the Templates Manager dialog "Extensions" button is > disabled if a document is not opened. With a document open the Templates > Manager dialog "Extensions" button is enabled and when clicked the same > internal dialog starts to open before crashing the program. > > Cheers > Dave > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: > documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > <mailto:documentation%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org> > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Templates dialog problem
On 18/03/2021 16:10, sophi wrote: > Hi, > Le 18/03/2021 à 16:39, Dave Barton a écrit : >> Can you advise where you see this button when a document is open? Under >> Windows 10 LO Version: 7.1.1.2 (x64) I only see the "Extensions" button >> at the bottom of the left hand panel in the start center. Clicking that >> button opens the link: https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en > > It doesn't work from the start center, but open a Writer document for > example, then File > Templates > Manage Templates, in the dialog that > opens, the extension button is opening a window populated with template > extensions. At least, under my linux 7.1.0.2 version it works well (and > I don't experimental features activated. > Cheers > Sophie Hi Sophie, Thanks for the pointer. It's true that clicking the "Extensions" button in the Templates Manager dialog does nothing if a document is not open, but when a document is open the "Extensions" button in the Templates Manager dialog opens another internal dialog displaying a scrolling list of downloadable templates. The above is true for me in LO Version: 7.1.1.2 under both Windows 10 and Linux. Under LO 7.2 dev. the Templates Manager dialog "Extensions" button is disabled if a document is not opened. With a document open the Templates Manager dialog "Extensions" button is enabled and when clicked the same internal dialog starts to open before crashing the program. Cheers Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Templates dialog problem
Can you advise where you see this button when a document is open? Under Windows 10 LO Version: 7.1.1.2 (x64) I only see the "Extensions" button at the bottom of the left hand panel in the start center. Clicking that button opens the link: https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en Dave On 18/03/2021 15:20, RIYADH TALAL wrote: > I tested on win 10: > > Only when a document is opened, the "extensions" button works and displays > templates from the Extensions > website (whether experimental features is active or not). > > Seems not to be the intended behavior. > > Riyadh > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 6:03 AM Jean Weber wrote: > >> I’ve not had time to research this probable bug or misunderstanding. >> Perhaps someone here knows. >> In LO 7.1, on the Templates dialog is a new “Extensions” button which is >> supposed to open a window populated by templates from the Extensions >> website. It is described in the Release Notes. >> On my macOS machine, this works as described when experimental features is >> active, but otherwise does nothing. On Windows 10, it does nothing in >> either case. I have not tried it on any variant of Linux. >> Any insight? Thanks. >> Jean >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Heads up! Change in object anchoring for release 7.1
On 28/02/2021 12:35, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > On 28.2.2021 13.21, Olivier Hallot wrote: >> Hi Team >> >> LibreOffice Writer 7.1 dropped the To Page anchoring option when >> inserting an object in the document. Existing To Page anchored objects >> are preserved but not an option anymore for new objects. > > This is not entirely true. Gone are the context menu option and toolbar > button option. Position and size dialog still allows you to set the > anchoring To Page. > > This was done in https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135836 > > Currently, some contributors and users are resisting this change and > calling for a revert. > > Ilmari I am another contributor/user calling for a revert. The logic and reasoning for the bug being opened was irrational. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Heads up! Change in object anchoring for release 7.1
On 28/02/2021 11:21, Olivier Hallot wrote: > Hi Team > > LibreOffice Writer 7.1 dropped the To Page anchoring option when > inserting an object in the document. Existing To Page anchored objects > are preserved but not an option anymore for new objects. > > An interesting source for object anchoring and positioning by Mike > Kaganski may be used in our guides on anchoring: > > https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/199971/multiple-captioned-images/#post-id-199989 > > > Regards Hi Olivier, Thanks for the info. Do we know what the logic and rational was for removing the "Anchor to Page" option from the context menu, but keeping it in the "Properties" dialog? Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Starmath code documentation
Original Message From: Regina Henschel [mailto:rb.hensc...@t-online.de] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021, 19:08 UTC To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Starmath code documentation > Hi Dante, > > Dante Doménech schrieb am 27.02.2021 um 13:07: >> Hello. >> I was wondering if there's any wiki website for the code documentation. >> In particular I'm interested on starmath documentation. >> If there's one could you point me there? > > For such, you should start at > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development > > There you can explore "Source Code Documentation", which leads me to > https://docs.libreoffice.org/starmath.html (I think, the content there > comes originally from Eric Bachard) > > and look at "Writing Source Code Documentation" how to add the > information to the code. > >> If not, where should I create it? >> > > In case you will go with the Wiki, you should start at > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development with Section "Misc." > (scroll down). It has the single Modules. There you would need to add > "Math". > > Kind regards > Regina Dante, I don't know if you are subscribed to this list, so I am poking my nose in here again, because Regina is much more involved and knowledgable about the project code than I am. However, based on 20+ years of observation and experience I do know you can definitely trust any pointers Regina offers you. Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Starmath code documentation
Original Message From: Dante Doménech [mailto:dante19031...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021, 12:07 UTC To: LO Doc Team Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Starmath code documentation > Hello. > I was wondering if there's any wiki website for the code documentation. > In particular I'm interested on starmath documentation. > If there's one could you point me there? > If not, where should I create it? Starmath was the name of a module in the original StarOffice suite. The current LibreOffice module is known simply as Math and the documentation can be found here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Math_Guide Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] New artwork for title page of user guide chapters?
Hello Jean, Is this what you want? https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/rs5C6XMcj46gse5 It is located in the Contributor Resources>Cover 7.1 folder I suggest you open this file in whatever is your graphics viewing software and copy it to the clipboard. Then open your local copy of the template, select the cover page graphic and paste to replace the existing graphic. Obviously there are other methods but this worked best for me. Best Regards Dave On 26/02/2021 04:20, Jean Weber wrote: > Hello Olivier, > That logo is only part of what I need. Please look on the title page > of the chapter template. I need a replacement for the artwork on that > page, which has the logo plus a graphic on the right, combined in one > PNG. > Jean > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 12:55 PM Olivier Hallot > wrote: >> >> Hello Jean >> >> LibreOffice Documentation/English/Contributor Resources/Cover7.1/ >> >> has a PNG file with the Community logo. Is that want you need? >> >> Regards >> OLivier >> >> >> >> Em 25/02/2021 21:12, Jean Weber escreveu: >>> Olivier, >>> >>> Thanks for updating the cover art for the books. We also need the >>> artwork for the title page of the chapter template. Is that somewhere >>> or still to be done? >>> I could try to update that myself, but I only have the PNG to work with. >>> >>> Regards, Jean >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 6:06 AM Olivier Hallot >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Jean >>>> >>>> I placed in /Contributors Resources/Cover7.1/ a png file with the >>>> community logo. >>>> >>>> The community logo source file in SVG is in same folder, with same file >>>> name. >>>> >>>> I have updated all SVG's and PNG's of the covers for 7.1 with the >>>> community logo. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> Olivier >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Em 21/02/2021 02:23, Jean Weber escreveu: >>>>> Where can I find artwork to be used on the title page of user guide >>>>> chapters for v7.1? The logo with "Community" added. I assume we'll >>>>> want to replace the artwork on the chapter template. I saw it when I >>>>> started v7.1 on Windows. Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Jean >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Olivier Hallot >>>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >>>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >>>> LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: >>>> https://www.libreoffice.org >>>> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data >>>> http://tdf.io/joinus >>> >> >> -- >> Olivier Hallot >> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >> LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org >> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data >> http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation Team Meeting Minutes February 18th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
While I agreed with Peter's previous proposal for the 5th. character
style to be Liberation Mono regular, not emphasis (italic), I don't see
the need for any extended character styles.
The whole purpose of the Documentation Template is for all the guides to
have a consistent set of agreed styles and style naming we all use.
However, I have just been looking back through some recently published
guides, where there appears to be a number of additional character
styles invented "on the fly" and duplicated names added for identical
styles.
In light of the above, trying to reach any kind of consensus on a new
guide template is a totally futile exercise and I don't intend to make
any further comment on the subject.
Dave
On 23/02/2021 08:34, Peter Schofield wrote:
> Hello
>
> Another think about the new character style and here are my thoughts.
>
> I think Widget is not informative enough as a name and suggest UI Text, or
> something similar.
>
> In UI dialogs you can have two levels of UI text, for example from the
> Position and Size dialog.
> Position — main section in bold text
> Position X — sub-section in normal text
> Position Y — sub-section in normal text
> Size — main section in bold text
> Width — sub-section in normal text
> Height — sub-section in normal text
>
> Therefore there should be two new character styles — UI Text Bold and UI Text
> Normal.
>
> As you can see, my suggested new name clearly identifies when this character
> style should be used.
>
> Regards
> Peter Schofield
> Technical Writer, Document Foundation
> psaut...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>> On 19 Feb 2021, at 16:03, Olivier Hallot
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Team
>>
>> Em 18/02/2021 17:17, Olivier Hallot escreveu:
>>> * A 5th character style for the Guides Templates?(OH)
>>> + purpose: Highlight UI widgets in text
>>> Examples:
>>> ... Select 'Add File Section to Document' radio button to...
>>> ... click 'New Style From Selection' icon ...
>>> + Suggestion 1: LibreOffice Mono 11pt (Dave Barton, PVT)
>>> + Suggestion 2: LibreOffice Mono 11pt, italic, light gray background (OH)
>>> + Bring the proposal to NC (DB), let other comment
>>> AI: Upload sample in Cloud and annouce in mailing list
>>
>> I uploaded a sample file (actually based on the current 7.0 template
>> file) with a proposal for the 5th character style to represent dialog
>> box object ("widgets").
>>
>> the file is
>> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/JpM8wq95naG4dZj
>>
>> and can be visited also in the /Contributor Resources/ folder.
>>
>> Regards
>> --
>> Olivier Hallot
>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00
>> LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org
>> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposed new character style for user guides
I am not a translator, but as I understand it, Olivier proposed this
5th. character style mainly for the benefit of translators, see:
https://www.mail-archive.com/documentation@global.libreoffice.org/msg16009.html
While I have many other reservations about the guide documentation
template, I don't believe it will involve much additional effort.
Looking back through some recently published guides there appears to be
a mixed approach to the character style used for naming UI objects
(widgets), where some have the emphasis style and others have the
default style.
Dave
On 23/02/2021 09:20, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
> I agree with Jean,
>
> this means also additional work for all translation teams, when updating
> guides' translation from older versions to 7.1 ...
>
> Lp, m.
>
> V V ned., 21. feb. 2021 ob 06:19 je oseba Jean Weber
> napisala:
>
>> I've apparently missed previous discussion on this new (5th) character
>> style. Why is it needed? What is the expected or intended value added
>> with this new style? I looked at the sample. Seems to me like a lot of
>> fiddly work for writers/reviewers to change the applied style as we
>> update chapters to v7.1, with no apparent (to me) benefit to the
>> reader.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 1:05 AM Olivier Hallot
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Team
>>>
>>> Em 18/02/2021 17:17, Olivier Hallot escreveu:
>>>> * A 5th character style for the Guides Templates?(OH)
>>>>+ purpose: Highlight UI widgets in text
>>>> Examples:
>>>> ... Select 'Add File Section to Document' radio button to...
>>>> ... click 'New Style From Selection' icon ...
>>>>+ Suggestion 1: LibreOffice Mono 11pt (Dave Barton, PVT)
>>>>+ Suggestion 2: LibreOffice Mono 11pt, italic, light gray
>> background (OH)
>>>>+ Bring the proposal to NC (DB), let other comment
>>>> AI: Upload sample in Cloud and annouce in mailing list
>>>
>>> I uploaded a sample file (actually based on the current 7.0 template
>>> file) with a proposal for the 5th character style to represent dialog
>>> box object ("widgets").
>>>
>>> the file is
>>> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/JpM8wq95naG4dZj
>>>
>>> and can be visited also in the /Contributor Resources/ folder.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> --
>>> Olivier Hallot
>>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
>>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00
>>> LibreOffice – free and open source office suite:
>> https://www.libreoffice.org
>>> Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data
>>> http://tdf.io/joinus
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7008 Base
Just as a little reminder. Have these files been processed through Milos Sramek's latest "odtclean.py" script: https://github.com/milossramek/translation-scripts/tree/master/odtclean Unless you have the facilities to run the script, I suggest you ask Milos or Oliver to do this before publication. Kind Regards Dave On 18/02/2021 09:49, Jean Weber wrote: > I have now reviewed this chapter. It needed only one small but > significant change (from a note from Rob earlier in this thread), plus > a few trivial changes, mostly to improve page breaks. I propose to > publish it, if no one objects within 72 hours. Then I will compile the > full GS book and publish that. > > Jean > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:08 AM Jean Weber wrote: >> >> I have dropped all of the replacement figures into this chapter. It is >> in the WiP folder. >> If you've been waiting until all the figures were redone, now is the >> time to review the chapter. Someone? >> (Yes, I know many of you were otherwise occupied last week. I hope >> you're back to documentation now.) >> >> Jean >> >> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 4:25 AM Rob Westein wrote: >>> >>> Hi Jean, >>> >>> Uploaded the last figures in a zip file into the WIP folder. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> On 11-02-2021 03:32, Jean Weber wrote: >>>> Thanks, Rob. I've dropped them into the chapter and uploaded the >>>> images and the updated chapter file to nextcloud. Still more to come? >>>> All: This chapter is still looking for reviewers. >>>> Jean >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 5:03 PM Rob Westein wrote: >>>>> Hi Jean, >>>>> >>>>> here are some updates of some images. I'm unable to upload them to >>>>> nextcloud. So I'll share them via dropbox: >>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/afeoa4z49dy8ok7/Update_Base7.0.zip?dl=0 >>>>> >>>>> /Rob >>>>> >>>>> On 07-02-2021 15:37, Rob Westein wrote: >>>>>> Hi Jean, >>>>>> >>>>>> Did another check and and the table definition of "Payment Type" on >>>>>> page 15, just above "Defining relationships", is not correct. Field >>>>>> PaymentID is missing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Table Payment Type contains 2 fields: >>>>>> - PaymentID (Integer) Primary Key >>>>>> - Type (Text) >>>>>> >>>>>> /Rob >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04-02-2021 06:56, Rob Westein wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Jean, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> whoops! I will correct them. Thanks for your comment >>>>>>> /Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 04-02-2021 05:51, Jean Weber wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Rob, >>>>>>>> I started dropping the replacement screenshots into the chapter. >>>>>>>> Some comments: >>>>>>>> Figure 1: Text above figure says, "Make sure that the HSQLDB Embedded >>>>>>>> entry is selected in the Embedded database drop-down menu" but the >>>>>>>> replacement image (unlike the original image) shows the default >>>>>>>> Firebird Embedded. >>>>>>>> Figure 3 also shows Firebird Embedded in the status bar at the bottom. >>>>>>>> If we're going to tell people to use HSQLDB (at least for the example >>>>>>>> in this chapter), these two screenshots need to show that. >>>>>>>> Other pix look okay. >>>>>>>> Regards, Jean >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 5:14 PM Rob Westein wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Jean, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Placed some some screenshots in the WIP folder. It is still not >>>>>>>>> complete. >>>>>>>>> Will complete the asap! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 01-02-2021 01:55, Jean Weber wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Rob, >>>>>>>>>> Yes, thanks. >>>>>>>>>> I think the Base screenshots are the most time-consum
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Urgent — Installing LO 7.1 on Ubuntu system
On 09/02/2021 10:23, Peter Schofield wrote: > Can someone please give me the instructions on how to install > LibreOffice 7.1 onto an Ubuntu 20.04 system??? ASAP please I > have both the DEB and RPM packages downloaded from the LO website, > but having problems. I think I will have to use Terminal and > install LO 7.1 using the command line. > > Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Install/Linux -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Metadata Loss LO 7.1.0.2
On 21/01/2021 12:59, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > On 21.1.2021 14.50, Dave Barton wrote: >> Version: 7.1.0.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community >> Build ID: 53d68d29d90fd16448721a60aad68c28ff0809f5 >> CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; >> VCL: win >> Locale: en-US (en_US); UI-Language: en-US >> Calc: threaded >> >> Before raising a bug report I would like to know if anyone else is >> seeing this issue: >> >> * Normally when a new document is created in Writer the Document >> Properties Title field is automatically filled with the name of the >> template (eg. Default) upon which the document is based. >> >> * Changing the Document Properties Title field in a new or existing >> document blanks the field in the saved file. >> >> * Opening the saved file in any other version of LO restores the field >> lost in version 7.1.0.2 > > Are you sure you are getting "Default" in the title? I only get a > pre-filled title with some template like Modern business letter. Works > fine with 7.2 at least. > > Ilmari Yes I get "Default" in the title field with 7.0.4.2 (x64) and all 6.x versions, but that is down to my profile, otherwise I get the same as you. The real issue is that 7.1.0.2 anything entered in the title field of a new or existing document is lost (more accurately disappears) on save. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Metadata Loss LO 7.1.0.2
Sorry, I meant to send this to the users list. *From:* Dave Barton [mailto:da...@libreoffice.org] *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2021, 12:50 UTC *To:* LibreOffice Documentation *Subject:* [libreoffice-documentation] Metadata Loss LO 7.1.0.2 > > Version: 7.1.0.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community > Build ID: 53d68d29d90fd16448721a60aad68c28ff0809f5 > CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; > VCL: win > Locale: en-US (en_US); UI-Language: en-US > Calc: threaded > > Before raising a bug report I would like to know if anyone else is > seeing this issue: > > * Normally when a new document is created in Writer the Document > Properties Title field is automatically filled with the name of the > template (eg. Default) upon which the document is based. > > * Changing the Document Properties Title field in a new or existing > document blanks the field in the saved file. > > * Opening the saved file in any other version of LO restores the field > lost in version 7.1.0.2 > > Thanks > Dave > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Metadata Loss LO 7.1.0.2
Version: 7.1.0.2 (x64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 53d68d29d90fd16448721a60aad68c28ff0809f5 CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: en-US (en_US); UI-Language: en-US Calc: threaded Before raising a bug report I would like to know if anyone else is seeing this issue: * Normally when a new document is created in Writer the Document Properties Title field is automatically filled with the name of the template (eg. Default) upon which the document is based. * Changing the Document Properties Title field in a new or existing document blanks the field in the saved file. * Opening the saved file in any other version of LO restores the field lost in version 7.1.0.2 Thanks Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7008 Base
Hi Rob, Sorry for my misunderstanding. I thought you were saying you wanted to change the documentation template, when in fact you wanted to _APPLY_ the template to the chapter you were working on. Regards Dave On 10/01/2021 10:00, Rob Westein wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Copy/paste: > > On 30-12-2020 14:45, Rafael Lima wrote: > Hi Rob! > > I was taking a look at the GS7008-GettingStartedWithBase_01-RW.odt file and > it seems you have not updated the template and the version numbers in the > File Properties fields. You also have to update the list of contributors' > names. > > The new template is in the following Nextcloud folder: > /English/Contributor Resources/LibreOffice_7.x_Template.ott > > > > Now I'm really confused! > > /Rob > > > On 10-01-2021 10:39, Dave Barton wrote: >> Rob, please do not change the template as this breaks the structure of >> the book when it comes time to publish the final book. >> >> Maybe you can explain why you feel it is necessary to change the >> template we all work with. >> >> Dave >> >> On 10/01/2021 09:19, Rob Westein wrote: >>> Hi Jean, >>> >>> Did not have time for it. >>> I also have to change the template... will do some work on it today. >>> I will let you know about the progress. >>> >>> /Rob >>> >>> On 09-01-2021 05:35, Jean Weber wrote: >>>> Hi Rob, >>>> How are you going with the images in this chapter? >>>> Thanks! >>>> Jean >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:29 PM Rob Westein >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi Jean, >>>>> >>>>> OK, I will return the document next Friday or sooner. >>>>> /Rob >>>>> >>>>> On 28-12-2020 21:06, Jean Weber wrote: >>>>>> Rob, >>>>>> If you can replace the poor quality images quickly, that would be >>>>>> great. >>>>>> Fixing the difference in icon sets is IMO less urgent because many >>>>>> other >>>>>> chapters are also inconsistent, but still worth doing. Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Jean >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 21:10 Rob Westein wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've updated the 6.4 Base guide to 7.0. Uploaded file >>>>>>> GS7008-GettingStartedWithBase_01-RW.odt to the "Work In Progress >>>>>>> folder". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No big changes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The only thing I'm worried about are the images used in the >>>>>>> guide. The >>>>>>> images vary in quality and several icon sets are used throughout the >>>>>>> Guide >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think: should I replace them? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>> >> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7008 Base
Rob, please do not change the template as this breaks the structure of the book when it comes time to publish the final book. Maybe you can explain why you feel it is necessary to change the template we all work with. Dave On 10/01/2021 09:19, Rob Westein wrote: > Hi Jean, > > Did not have time for it. > I also have to change the template... will do some work on it today. > I will let you know about the progress. > > /Rob > > On 09-01-2021 05:35, Jean Weber wrote: >> Hi Rob, >> How are you going with the images in this chapter? >> Thanks! >> Jean >> >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:29 PM Rob Westein wrote: >>> Hi Jean, >>> >>> OK, I will return the document next Friday or sooner. >>> /Rob >>> >>> On 28-12-2020 21:06, Jean Weber wrote: >>>> Rob, >>>> If you can replace the poor quality images quickly, that would be >>>> great. >>>> Fixing the difference in icon sets is IMO less urgent because many >>>> other >>>> chapters are also inconsistent, but still worth doing. Thanks! >>>> >>>> Jean >>>> >>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 21:10 Rob Westein wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I've updated the 6.4 Base guide to 7.0. Uploaded file >>>>> GS7008-GettingStartedWithBase_01-RW.odt to the "Work In Progress >>>>> folder". >>>>> >>>>> No big changes. >>>>> >>>>> The only thing I'm worried about are the images used in the guide. The >>>>> images vary in quality and several icon sets are used throughout the >>>>> Guide >>>>> >>>>> What do you think: should I replace them? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Rob >>>>> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Individual Chapters
On 31/12/2020 10:13, Peter Schofield wrote: > Can someone tell me where I can download the individual chapters for each > user guide on the LO website? > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com Hi Peter, They are not on the website. You will find them on the wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Docs wiki [Correction]
Original sentence: "While the extension still works perfectly for me, others have reported that they have issues, possibly related to their choice," Should have read: "While the extension still works perfectly for me, others have reported that they have issues, possibly related to their choice _of_ _operating_ _system_," Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Docs wiki
Hi Rob, I mentioned to you previously that the contributor guide documentation is in a state of flux and what you currently read there should not be taken as absolute fact. At the docs team meeting on Oct 31st 2018 it was agreed that in future screen captures for the guides would be taken from Windows 10. In fact I offered to make the screen captures for any contributor who either didn't have Windows 10, or wasn't able to make them. Unfortunately, this was never adhered to and we continue to have an inconsistent variety of captures. Maybe this would be the time to reach team consensus on this issue and document it in the contributors guide. For an number of different reasons the "Template Changer" extension has pretty much been abandoned/ignored. Mainly because it is no longer being developed/supported. While the extension still works perfectly for me, others have reported that they have issues, possibly related to their choice, There are 2 methods for applying a template to an existing document: 1. See "Associating a document with a different template" page 224 of the 6.4 Writer Guide. 2. See "Creating and modifying styles" page 182 of the 6.4 Writer Guide. The second option allows you to choose between a template stored in your local templates, or from a file in a different location. If you don't already have a copy of the 6.4 Writer Guide, download from: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/a/a4/WG64-WriterGuide.pdf Regards Dave On 31/12/2020 08:56, Rob Westein wrote: > Hi All, > > Indeed, it is confusing... > How to apply the latest template to an Revised Chapter? Should I use the > the Extension "Template Changer" or create a new document with the > latest chapter template and copy all info from old document to the new one? > > On the Wiki or in the Contributor ODT files this info could not be found. > > One other thing that bothers me is the inconsequence usage of > screenshots... today I can see in one chapter that screenshots are > produced by several users using several different OS. > > Is it possible that when the development or revision of a book starts it > is decided which OS is used to produce the screenshots? It gives a more > professional and consistent look. > > /Rob > > > On 31-12-2020 01:13, Jean Weber wrote: >> Hi team, >> I was poking around the Docs section of the wiki looking up info and >> following links, and I discovered there’s still a lot of out-of-date info >> on pages linked to up-to-date pages. No wonder newcomers often get >> confused. I don’t know how much energy I have for tracking down and >> fixing >> problems, and I know that others have been doing the same, but there >> is so >> much of it. >> >> Jean >> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Docs wiki
Hi Rob, I am in the middle of preparing a detailed answer to your original post and I will post shortly. Regards Dave On 31/12/2020 09:29, Rob Westein wrote: > Hi Peter, > > I've found the extention in the "Contributor Resources > Other > Resources" Folder on NextCloud. So I assumed this was used to apply the > new chapter template. > > /Rob > > On 31-12-2020 10:12, Peter Schofield wrote: >> Hello Rob >> >> I find that creating a new document from the template is accurate >> using copy and paste as it gives good control on what happens. >> I have not used the extension Template Change and did not know that >> there was one. However, I will run a test to see which is better. >> >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com >> >> >> >>> On 31 Dec 2020, at 09:56, Rob Westein wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Indeed, it is confusing... >>> How to apply the latest template to an Revised Chapter? Should I use >>> the the Extension "Template Changer" or create a new document with >>> the latest chapter template and copy all info from old document to >>> the new one? >>> >>> On the Wiki or in the Contributor ODT files this info could not be >>> found. >>> >>> One other thing that bothers me is the inconsequence usage of >>> screenshots... today I can see in one chapter that screenshots are >>> produced by several users using several different OS. >>> >>> Is it possible that when the development or revision of a book starts >>> it is decided which OS is used to produce the screenshots? It gives a >>> more professional and consistent look. >>> >>> /Rob >>> >>> >>> On 31-12-2020 01:13, Jean Weber wrote: >>>> Hi team, >>>> I was poking around the Docs section of the wiki looking up info and >>>> following links, and I discovered there’s still a lot of out-of-date >>>> info >>>> on pages linked to up-to-date pages. No wonder newcomers often get >>>> confused. I don’t know how much energy I have for tracking down and >>>> fixing >>>> problems, and I know that others have been doing the same, but there >>>> is so >>>> much of it. >>>> >>>> Jean >>>> >>> -- >>> Ik gebruik LibreOffice - het gratis, vrije en open source kantoor >>> pakket: https://www.libreoffice.org >>> Respecteert uw privacy en geeft u de controle over uw gegevens terug >>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: >>> documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>> Problems? >>> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>> Posting guidelines + more: >>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >>> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Producing guides - add a "Cleaned" directory
Hi Milos,
This edition of the extension installs and seems to work OK in LO
7.0.4.2 (x64) and 6.4.7.2 (x86) on Win10.
Dave
On 28/12/2020 20:18, Milos Sramek wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> thank you for testing.
> The extension was created on Linux, so maybe the zip utilities are not
> really compatible. But I've tried that also on Windows using LO 6.3 and
> 7.0 and it worked without problems. I do not know where can the problem be.
>
> I've created the extension on Windows, too, please download it from
> here. If it works for you, I'll replace that one on Github
> https://www.sospreskoly.org/~milos/LOGuidesWin.oxt
> Milos
>
>
> On 12/28/20 6:39 PM, Dave Barton wrote:
>> Attempting to install the oxt in LO 7.0.4.2 (x64) and 6.4.7.2 (x86) on
>> Win10 generates the following error:
>>
>> (com.sun.star.lang.WrappedTargetRuntimeException) { { { Message = "Bad
>> Zip File, ZipException: Zip END signature not found!", Context =
>> (com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @1d35768a930 (ImplementationName =
>> "com.sun.star.packages.comp.ZipPackage") } }, TargetException = (any) {
>> (com.sun.star.packages.zip.ZipIOException) { { { Message = "Bad Zip
>> File, ZipException: Zip END signature not found!", Context =
>> (com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @1d35768a930 (ImplementationName =
>> "com.sun.star.packages.comp.ZipPackage") } } } } }
>>
>> Strangely it installs in AOO 4.1.8 without any error.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On 28/12/2020 16:34, Milos Sramek wrote:
>>> Hi Olivier and all,
>>> now that CG70 and MG70 are published I have cleaned the documents
>>> manually and by the script. You can find the archives in
>>> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/Shared/SK%20community/Cleaned=322834
>>>
>>> I suggest to replace the chapter files in the Published directory by
>>> their cleaned versions without producing the full odt and pdf book.
>>> Thus, the next version will start from the cleaned document.
>>> If you agree, I will replace them.
>>>
>>> I've created a simple extension, which highlights the character styles
>>> used in the guides:
>>> https://github.com/milossramek/translation-scripts/tree/master/odtclean
>>> https://github.com/milossramek/translation-scripts/blob/master/odtclean/LOGuidesStyles.oxt
>>>
>>> If highlighted, an author can see if styles are really used instead of
>>> direct formatting - in that case additional manual cleaning would not be
>>> necessary and it would be sufficient only to run the script. I suggest
>>> then to produce the cleaned files after publishing the guide.
>>>
>>> To summarize, I suggest to include two additional steps to the Producing
>>> LO Guides document
>>> - for authors: use the extension and use the character styles consistently
>>> - for a specific person (me for now): to run the script after publishing
>>> the guide and to replace the chapter files in the published directory
>>>
>>> Milos
>>>
>>> On 12/17/20 8:55 PM, Olivier Hallot wrote:
>>>> Hi Milos, All
>>>>
>>>> Em 17/12/2020 16:41, Milos Sramek escreveu:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest to include file cleaning in the workflow. In cleaning one
>>>>> removes direct formatting, which is necessary for translation. Currently
>>>>> I do that after a guide is published - the cleaned files can be found
>>>>> here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/index.php/apps/files?dir=/Shared/SK%20community/Cleaned
>>>>>
>>>>> The current problem is that nobody knows about them and a new version of
>>>>> a guide starts from an uncleaned version in the Published and thus I
>>>>> have to repeat the laborious manual cleaning part again an again.
>>>> BTW, last time I tried odtclean.py in my Linux box it failed, something
>>>> related to python version. Actually, is it still of use?
>>>>
>>>>> My suggestion is to add another step after step 7 in the "How to publish
>>>>> a chapter" section (page 15, 2 - Producing LO Guides.odt): a "Cleaned"
>>>>> directory, the contents of which will then be used to start a next
>>>>> version of the guide. I will then produce the cleaned files.
>>>>>
>>>> I think the cleaned files should be the published files. In other words,
>>>> only publish cleaned files.
>>>>
>>>> Olivier
>>>>
>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Producing guides - add a "Cleaned" directory
Attempting to install the oxt in LO 7.0.4.2 (x64) and 6.4.7.2 (x86) on
Win10 generates the following error:
(com.sun.star.lang.WrappedTargetRuntimeException) { { { Message = "Bad
Zip File, ZipException: Zip END signature not found!", Context =
(com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @1d35768a930 (ImplementationName =
"com.sun.star.packages.comp.ZipPackage") } }, TargetException = (any) {
(com.sun.star.packages.zip.ZipIOException) { { { Message = "Bad Zip
File, ZipException: Zip END signature not found!", Context =
(com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @1d35768a930 (ImplementationName =
"com.sun.star.packages.comp.ZipPackage") } } } } }
Strangely it installs in AOO 4.1.8 without any error.
Dave
On 28/12/2020 16:34, Milos Sramek wrote:
> Hi Olivier and all,
> now that CG70 and MG70 are published I have cleaned the documents
> manually and by the script. You can find the archives in
> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/Shared/SK%20community/Cleaned=322834
>
> I suggest to replace the chapter files in the Published directory by
> their cleaned versions without producing the full odt and pdf book.
> Thus, the next version will start from the cleaned document.
> If you agree, I will replace them.
>
> I've created a simple extension, which highlights the character styles
> used in the guides:
> https://github.com/milossramek/translation-scripts/tree/master/odtclean
> https://github.com/milossramek/translation-scripts/blob/master/odtclean/LOGuidesStyles.oxt
>
> If highlighted, an author can see if styles are really used instead of
> direct formatting - in that case additional manual cleaning would not be
> necessary and it would be sufficient only to run the script. I suggest
> then to produce the cleaned files after publishing the guide.
>
> To summarize, I suggest to include two additional steps to the Producing
> LO Guides document
> - for authors: use the extension and use the character styles consistently
> - for a specific person (me for now): to run the script after publishing
> the guide and to replace the chapter files in the published directory
>
> Milos
>
> On 12/17/20 8:55 PM, Olivier Hallot wrote:
>> Hi Milos, All
>>
>> Em 17/12/2020 16:41, Milos Sramek escreveu:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I suggest to include file cleaning in the workflow. In cleaning one
>>> removes direct formatting, which is necessary for translation. Currently
>>> I do that after a guide is published - the cleaned files can be found
>>> here:
>>>
>>> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/index.php/apps/files?dir=/Shared/SK%20community/Cleaned
>>>
>>> The current problem is that nobody knows about them and a new version of
>>> a guide starts from an uncleaned version in the Published and thus I
>>> have to repeat the laborious manual cleaning part again an again.
>> BTW, last time I tried odtclean.py in my Linux box it failed, something
>> related to python version. Actually, is it still of use?
>>
>>> My suggestion is to add another step after step 7 in the "How to publish
>>> a chapter" section (page 15, 2 - Producing LO Guides.odt): a "Cleaned"
>>> directory, the contents of which will then be used to start a next
>>> version of the guide. I will then produce the cleaned files.
>>>
>> I think the cleaned files should be the published files. In other words,
>> only publish cleaned files.
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] new member
Original Message From: Peter Heijink [mailto:peterheij...@kpnmail.nl] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020, 17:02 UTC To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] new member > Hi reader, > > I'm a satisfied user of LO, since seven years now. Focus on base and > programming macros, some of them written in python. > > The question of this mail is: > > * can you assign me to the right team / tasks? > > * is the contribution driven by the needs of the documentation team, > or can initiatives of the volunteer be granted as well? > > I noticed that (base) python programming is less abundant, in usage and > documentation. I'm willing to contribute and add documentation on this > subject. > > Regarding skills, i am 64, retired and not educated as a programmer, > though with a background in engineering and some programming languages. > > > Looking forward to what you believe can be a suitable area to work on. > > kind regards peter heijink Hello Peter and Welcome, If you have not already done so, please subscribe to the documentation team mailing list documentation+subscr...@global.libreoffice.org, which is where we communicate and discuss all matters related the the LibreOffice documentation and Help production. Being an open source volunteer project we do not assign tasks to contributors. We ask them to look for aspects of the various sections of the LibreOffice documentation where they believe their skills may be usefully employed. As a general rule (not law) we discuss with or advise the other team members what we wish to work on via the mailing list. This often produces useful feedback or guidance for new contributors. If you would like to speak with our "Slave Driver" :)) oops I mean "Team Leader" Olivier Hallot and some other regular members of the docs team, we hold a bi-weekly on line team meeting: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Meetings The contributor guides are currently in a state of flux, but you should find sufficient information about joining the team in the "Help produce documentation" section of our wiki here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Contributors' Guide - Chapter 2
On 22/12/2020 10:24, Peter Schofield wrote: > An updated version of Chapter 2 Producing LO Guides is now on NextCloud. > The updates to the chapter are from comments and suggestions made by Rafael. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com I have taken and reviewed the updated Chapter 2 Producing LO Guides, I have not made any edits, so I did not turn track changes on. However I have added many comments for consideration. The previously updated chapter has been move to the "Archives" folder and "2-ProducingLOGuides-PS-RL-PS-DB-20201222.odt" is now in the WIP folder: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/7kRae4WJ4w57tRH Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Word files - Application forms -
First, the documentation list is not user support, which is available via us...@global.libreoffice.org Secondly this mailing list removes all attachments, so we don't get to see them. You provide a link to the UK Gov. Open Document ODF formats guidance, but the outfit you are dealing with provides forms exclusively in Microsoft OOXML (*.docx) format. If people want guaranteed 100% MS compatibility, they should buy and use only Microsoft software. If the grey backgrounds are a big issue for you, click the writer menu option "View -> Field Shadings" option. With Microsoft OOXML files you may have to click that a second time. Hope this helps. Dave On 20/12/2020 18:48, Paul Sutton wrote: > Hi All > > I recently tried to open an application form (docx) and within the > fields, the form has grey boxes, typing in to these you just get > black text on the grey background. It is difficult to remove these > grey boxes. or type without this issue coming up. > > I would assume this is not meant to happen. > > I have attached a screenshot to illustrate the issue, I decided to > ask here, to see if anyone else could have a go and see if they get > the same problem, then we can perhaps report it if it is due to a > problem in LibreOffice. > > I get this in both 6.x and 7.0 as both are installed (the latter is > in a Snap package under Debian) > > https://eatthatfrog.ac.uk/vacancies-2/ > > For reporting, for some strange reason, they have two e-mail > addresses for vacancies / Human resources, I sent an e-mail to hr@ > the other day and have just resent to recruitment@ no idea why > there is two. > > So perhaps send to both using cc, > > h...@eatthatfrog.ac.uk recruitm...@eatthatfrog.ac.uk > > Also included the link below to the UK guidance on file formats, > they need to have their forms interoperable properly > > https://www.gov.uk/guidance/using-open-document-formats-odf-in-your-organisation > > > > I did ask them if this was the expected behaviour of the from, in > my 2nd e-mail today I also suggested that if this is a problem I > can look in to reporting the issue. > > To me, this is about open standards and having forms / document > that just work, so everyone has a chance to apply properly without > this extra aggravation. We won't achieve that unless we start to > raise these issues. > > Anyway, a good chance to wish everyone a Merry Christmas, and > thanks if you can have a go with this please, > > > Regards > > > Paul Sutton > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Docs Team Meeting Dates?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 > Hi Folks, > > Even though I got side tracked by the trivialities of "real life" > :))) and missed yesterday's meeting, I am still maintaining a > meeting date calendar for meetings 6 meetings (12 weeks) ahead. > > I have arbitrarily nominated December 17th. as the last meeting > date for 2020 and January 7th. as the first meeting date for 2021. > > Does anyone else have more suitable proposals for these two dates? > > Regards Dave Missing link:https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Meetings#2020.2F2021_Online_meetings -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEoUQz/HNVwzyj58ReCdx6y1E3DqsFAl/KSQUACgkQCdx6y1E3 DqvebggAw4JkxVK46Gwsu9M4qldMYbQtIU+HaVWum2DEHmacxFTGzSyalWzysr3Q eJM3FsVQ6dilTqYb7Nmph986N5xJJtGQb4vR9EBEwFCmAxehupFNI30TgrCu+HcK dFIw9zW0QVOe37gQR8tfIh1hKUoT3mRn3YPyjbgtN1C9tFZYyBAc/TYPezu4CO8v U4lPjB6OqHKpBDTk30AkTHDwTkQuLYc646w9lkfcklGJJ8V71+9upKr9G7Qf/pbb tUnG+Bw7jSSURIMZoEkHuRyCI8mDs58elTKgaxQcl/262CLW5OmMgzAFLamnhNzN OrVyPmZBwmNUy+dxrPchb3HUqdhp4A== =AaC+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Docs Team Meeting Dates?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Folks, Even though I got side tracked by the trivialities of "real life" :))) and missed yesterday's meeting, I am still maintaining a meeting date calendar for meetings 6 meetings (12 weeks) ahead. I have arbitrarily nominated December 17th. as the last meeting date for 2020 and January 7th. as the first meeting date for 2021. Does anyone else have more suitable proposals for these two dates? Regards Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEoUQz/HNVwzyj58ReCdx6y1E3DqsFAl/KR4UACgkQCdx6y1E3 Dqv7cwf+MsATanQBpR1Xck/EIgvxs6XUmJd0xtUPT2MNUjWRz7QQRqRx7nwGlKet ZnBrfTEw4+DcxesDNEZwvy45GNROQtuUiZjhNnVBEhk3E8+KBR83lmzDTGBaQGWW VVYKggcSFtSWmBa5V1xFrdQjI15THYdMMO1GSZlBBcBxjqH23FIP2ZkWFNztpsOv 3WImWNhd0OzSPRfXg88r3b2+r6eBpjlby2Tw2O1iq9gYTfezUpv4rCynYlM9r3QI 3Tob6Tglzb8/miNaQXbBdnKueTfmbuC8a3emRKDQtyagRuU17+fB2PECUHsIF/pW 8ZQxxGFBUu0j65LOkFzshRyZuqWhmw== =UZ8X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki articles JoinDocTeam & Cloud
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 04/12/2020 11:44, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > On 4.12.2020 13.17, Dave Barton wrote: >> On 03/12/2020 12:51, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: >>> I think it would be a good idea to somehow synchronise these two >>> articles: >>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/JoinDocTeam >>> >> >>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Cloud >> >>> I'm not sure, if there needs to be this separate Cloud article. Why not >>> replace the last section of JoinDocTeam with its contents? Translations >>> could be copied over. >> >> If I remember correctly, the >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Cloud page was >> originally created to provide an interim source of information during >> the change from ODF Authors to NextCloud. >> >> This is now covered in Chapter 1 of the Documentation Contributors' >> Guide, the revision of which is currently under review. The equivalent >> wiki pages will be updated when the cloud chapters have been fully >> revised. >> >> When the Documentation Contributors' Guide is published, I propose that >> this "temporary" wiki page be deleted, or at the very least flagged as >> having been replaced by a section in Chapter 1 of the guide. > > Thanks. An example of different advice: > > JoinDocTeam page has: "After your login is confirmed, contact the > Documentation leader through the mailing list to obtain access to the > LibreOffice Documentation folder on TDF NextCloud." > > Cloud page has: "Contact documentation at libreoffice dot org to inform > your username and to proceed with getting access to the LibreOffice > Documentation folders in Nextcloud." > > Ilmari Agreed. There are other examples of conflicting and/or inaccurate information, which is why I want to see the Documentation Contributors' Guide finished and the equivalent wiki pages will be updated asap. Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEoUQz/HNVwzyj58ReCdx6y1E3DqsFAl/KLmIACgkQCdx6y1E3 Dqu2XQgAmjCf1r8/6lL9poaHlOqWr6QD3qvL6q1L5P0XkxSkVeMhy+12Rld9StHR c6XU4c5GU7bTJiv7Mgpkkiyrs/K4cU3D4zPJPoWJ/BoFdoYU2g0MkSaO4MxKNIp+ 0paS5aIcdxHAe384aCFDEMgLGsxG5/3QCgF4U3SGqZUU+HgaydsXQ0TwnKqU8+hC U5FInHlSzQO4d9yZIOFj4Fd2KCjDDT0bAzibtt67ltXwXp0t25MXR9Pi5GQEAkgA ClUMf34yQQ9S99+Rwzm398PFGmevi4erS0kxOBfDkA4PZqB5EkorA8MmM+HyU0E8 6iRP5hfVeSf8QwvhjrClTGN5XW3Xvg== =PHat -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki articles JoinDocTeam & Cloud
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/12/2020 12:51, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > I think it would be a good idea to somehow synchronise these two articles: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/JoinDocTeam > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Cloud > > I'm not sure, if there needs to be this separate Cloud article. Why not > replace the last section of JoinDocTeam with its contents? Translations > could be copied over. > > Ilmari If I remember correctly, the https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Cloud page was originally created to provide an interim source of information during the change from ODF Authors to NextCloud. This is now covered in Chapter 1 of the Documentation Contributors' Guide, the revision of which is currently under review. The equivalent wiki pages will be updated when the cloud chapters have been fully revised. When the Documentation Contributors' Guide is published, I propose that this "temporary" wiki page be deleted, or at the very least flagged as having been replaced by a section in Chapter 1 of the guide. Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEoUQz/HNVwzyj58ReCdx6y1E3DqsFAl/KGqEACgkQCdx6y1E3 Dqsn7wgAzc3k9zvxbTS1rs33nYpJwM8amZCPvzcMkIvWRoIYp95+6Mh/zxNMlX0t lq/nDiVgxejM3lyvqu2Di/ZcxEhtRiejkv6U3a6yqmgnGaJ4Oa4mUCn13d7XQlYA BgNRU7MgNMoKjif1/uz3ovsukmNM3vvnewoinqfJDmWRUHk3MWB0imBmveZkTpiU y9ojfKFkH3JTlsakH4UpcWXRrb53yttQSiyDnmCyDF4uMqCLhoYy2eF3b476qZWz Z/ZDFawyL6a77928SHcf1BBPOXAsTg5WAmiF7ibGusiH5ILTz5bbfStfdPHfTcj1 zt0B+HwFZp5LtN6DM69ztMVKrZAP1g== =hixF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] iPad/Tablet version of LibreOffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 04/12/2020 09:05, Paul Sutton wrote: > > > On 04/12/2020 08:39, Peter Schofield wrote: >> Is there any chance of an iPad/tablet version of LibreOffice >> being developed into a decent app. It would be useful to have one >> and it it would expand LibreOffice’s appeal to users. >> >> I know there are several apps available for using with open >> document format, but all of them are terrible to use. I have >> tested them. There is also Collabora Office, but that does nor >> work well at all. It is even worse the version of LO on >> NextCloud. >> >> Anybody with thoughts on this. >> >> Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> > I know there is LibreOffice online, not sure what that is like, > rather than re-inventing the wheel, it seems we need to improve > what is on offer, as you said if the current offering is > 'terrible', then creating a better option from scratch won't stop > people having a look at the other versions, getting the wrong > impression generally about everything else. > > Are we trying to build a like for like alternative or a privacy / > user choice / open standards respecting alternative to google / ms > office. The latter in some ways needs to be our selling point. > > It seems there are too many apps, perhaps it would help if they > pooled together and worked on one single app that is of really good > quality. > > Is anyone planning a talk at LibrePlanet in 2021, it may be a way > to raise awareness the project needs help, I think there is still > a call for proposals, or perhaps there is a libreofficeconf online > that we can help to promote. > > Paul What does this have to do with documenting LibreOffice? General discussions are best done on: us...@global.libreoffice.org Promotion is best discussed on: market...@global.libreoffice.org Request enhancements: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEoUQz/HNVwzyj58ReCdx6y1E3DqsFAl/KDlkACgkQCdx6y1E3 DqsYggf/UtWzaNYeRzVjJJ4QtNVJ8ZqdJo2guTLHHfhnYrTyM2dy9DkVHqAoU5qK dQ0jLq7c82r832LXEjBSUIMHXHr8LmR8oy7al5KZM8NtmU880pkspoTEBEaFEHE5 Jf+BPH/1C8Lg5N/3/VDXM40v6O71p+arjIulNGxEKshE78LG4BQpEXDhmb3H8C7b qB3THyuKS/xn60lOjrG9BwiSLryuZdcXEN4ETTqYnRomomYtGQTCUfS3Ukt2Kae1 G+YT6CMmtvQMJ9cF3uKzzX8WO0KKLvBZZ6M6YmIXEbNL1vFC2Por2ZaIRM57BL4L DjFR8AXw1W7Ipm+19PFwkBPGK5MmrQ== =0zB6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Request to hire someone to explain the entire LibreOffice Writer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/12/2020 18:30, محمد نواف wrote: > Hello all > > I believe that the best way to explain any software in an easy and fast way > is by using video tutorials. Therefore, I would like to pay someone a sum of > money to explain LibreOffice Writer through all the points in the document > when it is ready easily and beautifully on YouTube. > > I am sure that will increase LibreOffice users very quickly and significantly. > I hope this person is a native English speaker to make it easier for > listeners around the world to understand. > > Please have a look at this page to know the way I believe the best > https://diode.zone/video-channels/libreofficewriter/videos?a-state=42 > > Please, let anyone with the same conditions tell me they are willing to help. > > Thank you > > Mohammed Alotaibi You might wish to take look at: https://spoken-tutorial.org/keyword-search/?q=libreoffice Sadly, almost everyone who makes video tutorials concentrates on the simplistic manual (typewriter) formatting of the Writer module. Neglecting the other modules and the power of Writer's styles. I seriously doubt that the video tutorials you propose would make any real difference in the number of LibreOffice users, because only those people who are already interested in or using the software would want to watch those videos. Regards Dave -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEoUQz/HNVwzyj58ReCdx6y1E3DqsFAl/GnA8ACgkQCdx6y1E3 DqshWggApJ9e+ncXP6Z5VsyqgUq3dZHxVekfd5J+QVYjYfg/VeVlQYcV3Z1SIKKd Cmu2I5HRcxzVt13jXFH2yw3EOSP0gj99+m64qdcmPMP3Z4WZXd0qJrgFrdwwxH4z 1N5UZsY9MsRceLSUbaSkEQso8P+dzbdByp3BO9n27vnefIvDEssQAdayud1pS19N X3uriVjoq79mUxPb9C0cXB9Ylj0CfagAg05Ad1S2pokjen+t/YnFBSZLmkpM8Bax HqI57e711N/RRQCY58OdEN2ODhtRwEZCemHykIk+kjrCdWfCMAEhlPz0xTMonV+i KJhT9eA72IqPmszzBiFBSHdyqRcZ2A== =gRLt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Contributor Workflow
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Chris, I am just about to finish updating Chapter 3 Using the Documentation Team Website (both NextCloud & Wiki), but I am waiting for advice from another LibreOffice project team to complete this. Almost everything in that chapter [1] and [2] resources except "Publishing a chapter or a book" is accurate. Peter Schofield has updated Chapter 2 Producing LO Guides which is waiting for more reviews prior to publication. FWIW, my assessment of Peter's revision is accurate and should be considered as an accurate statement of how the guides should be produced. Chapter 4 Style Guide [3] has some proposed edits, but following Jean Weber's original advice should be considered to be the most accurate and authoritative. Chapter 5 Using the LibreOffice Chapter Template is fine, but lacks the source of the template at: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/3yHCCcrMT3Nc83F Chapter 0 (Preface) and Chapter 1 Join LO docsteam, could use some TLC, but are essentially correct. That's a fairly reasonable assessment of where the "Contributors Guide" is at at this time. Regards Dave [1] https://tinyurl.com/y3ztgsk6 [2] https://tinyurl.com/y5ahvblp [3] https://tinyurl.com/yyoyeghf On 28/11/2020 14:41, Chris Smith wrote: > Thank you everyone for pointing me in the right direction. > > Regards, > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 28, 2020, at 3:44 AM, Samantha Hamilton >> wrote: >> >> >> Hi, Chris, >> >> To my knowledge the Contributors' Guides have not yet been updated. That >> said, while the workflow is more or less the same the file naming and >> structure have been updated. >> >> If you have your SSO and are looking to start reviewing, I know the Getting >> Started Guide team is looking for contributors and reviewers! You might have >> seen some of the messages passing through the mailing list. >> >> Have fun contributing, >> Sam >> >> Samantha Hamilton >> www.darlingdocs.com >> >> Sent from my Android device >> >>> On Fri., Nov. 27, 2020, 19:39 Chris, wrote: >>> Hi All >>> I signed up to be on the mailing list last month and created an SSO >>> account. I downloaded the software and reviewed the user documentation and >>> have been trying to learn the software when I can. At the time Dave >>> mentioned that the workflow and instructions in the contributor’s guide >>> book were being updated. I just wanted to check in and see if there is any >>> new information available. >>> Thanks for the help. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Chris Smith -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEoUQz/HNVwzyj58ReCdx6y1E3DqsFAl/CgkIACgkQCdx6y1E3 DqvzJQf+PAex3jin12SGqfcTLbmP/0keUsj8djZzDjoeD5Kf0jgiYLhPq2rqFBwo ad+JUdUPy5D1MUHTkIcOYZLzaB+PrmrCiJ7grIJrROagz6Qh3J6m1v4nP4Sq/iSx z3RSO7SdJ+w25E+T/tMhAMUHSMIlv6j801tRVHqKZ9zd9OymdYvd8HDoG29LJ6vs le53ePyAXRNd4LNP6OT76d0HH+jYhyg3c3iSNS8K8mbmqm6ZPWNYDWU/9PZ7lcfZ /B1/ZpkM2fEbKsYnztVb6GcU0+G4V5DLEQ+LcsS6FIFNYWc59yHUQgTHEbYS7pt1 B8SjHJ3JuDexzrTQ/pZFInd1ilcLvA== =UDeC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer table sum feature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi Alan, RFE (Request(s) For Enhancement) go through Bugzilla. If you don't have an account or you are not familiar with Bugzilla, this is a reasonable starting point: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org / Regards Dave - Original Message From: Alan B [mailto:abo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020, 15:23 UTC To: Dave Barton Cc: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer table sum feature > Dave, > > Have to agree with Paul. For someone familiar with Calc it is > surprising and confusing that Sum in a Writer table cannot be done > using the method he demonstrated. In Calc the method Paul > demonstrated is the one I use most frequently. The method you > demonstrated is one I rarely use. > > Can you direct me to where a feature / enhancement request should > be submitted? > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 7:24 AM Dave Barton <mailto:da...@libreoffice.org>> wrote: > > On 24/11/2020 11:53, Paul Sutton wrote: >> Hi >> >> I am trying (well struggling) to figure out how to use the sum >> feature within a table in LibreOffice writer. >> >> So I can : >> >> Create a table Enter numbers in a column >> >> trying to use the sum tool on the context tool bar causes the >> software to just not work as expected. >> >> https://diode.zone/videos/watch/d08d5d5d-99af-4590-a2b5-c430d9ef57bf > >> >> >> > >> Question here is am I using this feature correctly? >> >> Another odd thing here, is that pressing the sum feature that > causes the >> above also appears to grey out the exit button for libreoffice, > alt-f4 >> works to close the document, but neither ctrl-q or file exit >> work. >> >> >> Thanks for any help >> >> Regards >> >> Paul Sutton > > Paul, > > You are overcomplicating the procedure. See: > http://www.mediafire.com/file/imxudm14vk9z6fh/clip.avi > > Regards Dave > > > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: > documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > <mailto:documentation%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org> > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > > > Posting guidelines + more: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: > https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy > Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > > > -- Alan Boba CISSP, CCENT, ITIL v3 Foundations 2011 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEoUQz/HNVwzyj58ReCdx6y1E3DqsFAl+9MJ0ACgkQCdx6y1E3 DqvL3Af/R5N+UR+tfm+itJK3UNXQ5XrTJo4/meT//xnWc8VD//edT9WHVez5H8dx ef+SWfQZlG31qXLx6HDBaXawZOcy1bOiqrjVZRHFXmEvAFS6LWielkbKhkkyawb+ AiDka3QvaU+hooTmYSkjWPIkqON+oXSICYLltBMyPrkY/US8tcYMs1rRt7pUgU3l In35kIBtWCUee75lyDo9iG46G4dJ+xeaAcSIz7UMkudzGi3Z1nGUyuzxec/nVY3o ArFg+oyC5+RL91nn69q4hx8i5Oz06AoCxZTImTJAZD6JZRb1EPkh7om4paNYBl2s KBftK1EkHRDt1MdWiPQ2Dn5oyxxmdg== =oS+B -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer table sum feature
On 24/11/2020 11:53, Paul Sutton wrote: > Hi > > I am trying (well struggling) to figure out how to use the sum feature > within a table in LibreOffice writer. > > So I can : > > Create a table > Enter numbers in a column > > trying to use the sum tool on the context tool bar causes the software > to just not work as expected. > > https://diode.zone/videos/watch/d08d5d5d-99af-4590-a2b5-c430d9ef57bf > > Question here is am I using this feature correctly? > > Another odd thing here, is that pressing the sum feature that causes the > above also appears to grey out the exit button for libreoffice, alt-f4 > works to close the document, but neither ctrl-q or file exit work. > > > Thanks for any help > > Regards > > Paul Sutton Paul, You are overcomplicating the procedure. See: http://www.mediafire.com/file/imxudm14vk9z6fh/clip.avi Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Who is Jun Nogata
Hi Jun, Sorry for the noise. No problem, Olivier has already answered my question. Regards Dave *From:* Jun Nogata [mailto:noga...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020, 12:14 UTC *To:* Dave Barton; LibreOffice Documentation *Subject:* [libreoffice-documentation] Who is Jun Nogata > Hi, > > I am Jun. > > 2020年11月23日(月) 10:22 Dave Barton : >> If this person can be identified I would like to ask some questions bout >> their edits. > What happened? > > > 2020年11月23日(月) 10:22 Dave Barton : >> Today I went to finish making a Wiki edit of a "Contributor Guide" >> chapter I was working on and I see someone by the name of Jun Nogata has >> been editing this and other chapters of the guide. >> >> If this person can be identified I would like to ask some questions bout >> their edits. >> >> Dave >> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Who is Jun Nogata
On 23/11/2020 11:23, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > On 23.11.2020 11.17, Dave Barton wrote: >> On 23/11/2020 08:50, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: >>> On 22.11.2020 23.49, Dave Barton wrote: >>>> Today I went to finish making a Wiki edit of a "Contributor Guide" >>>> chapter I was working on and I see someone by the name of Jun Nogata >>>> has >>>> been editing this and other chapters of the guide. >>>> >>>> If this person can be identified I would like to ask some questions >>>> bout >>>> their edits. >>> >>> Jun is a long time member of the Japanese community. You can always >>> contact any wiki editor by going to their user page and clicking "Email >>> this user" in the left sidebar. >>> >>> Ilmari >> >> Thanks Ilmari, but the "Email >> this user" option didn't work for me when I tried to use it yesterday. > > Seems to work for me. I just sent you an email using it. > > Ilmari I did not say the option never worked. I said that it failed to work for me when I tried to use it yesterday, even though it had worked for me in the past. There was no obvious reason for the failure, so I guess it was an intermittent glitch somewhere along the line. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Who is Jun Nogata
Thanks Olivier. Dave On 23/11/2020 08:58, Olivier Hallot wrote: > Hi Dave > > Jun Nogata's changes are related to the preparation of the wiki page for > translation. > > Kind regards > > Em 22/11/2020 18:49, Dave Barton escreveu: >> Today I went to finish making a Wiki edit of a "Contributor Guide" >> chapter I was working on and I see someone by the name of Jun Nogata has >> been editing this and other chapters of the guide. >> >> If this person can be identified I would like to ask some questions bout >> their edits. >> >> Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Who is Jun Nogata
On 23/11/2020 08:50, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > On 22.11.2020 23.49, Dave Barton wrote: >> Today I went to finish making a Wiki edit of a "Contributor Guide" >> chapter I was working on and I see someone by the name of Jun Nogata has >> been editing this and other chapters of the guide. >> >> If this person can be identified I would like to ask some questions bout >> their edits. > > Jun is a long time member of the Japanese community. You can always > contact any wiki editor by going to their user page and clicking "Email > this user" in the left sidebar. > > Ilmari Thanks Ilmari, but the "Email this user" option didn't work for me when I tried to use it yesterday. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Who is Jun Nogata
Today I went to finish making a Wiki edit of a "Contributor Guide" chapter I was working on and I see someone by the name of Jun Nogata has been editing this and other chapters of the guide. If this person can be identified I would like to ask some questions bout their edits. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Who is Jun Nogata
Today I went to finish making a Wiki edit of a "Contributor Guide" chapter I was working on and I see someone by the name of Jun Nogata has been editing this and other chapters of the guide. If this person can be identified I would like to ask some questions bout their edits. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] NextCloud problem
On 16/11/2020 12:05, Olivier Hallot wrote: > Hi Peter > > Em 16/11/2020 08:29, Peter Schofield escreveu: >> Hello Olivier >> >> Cannot download any files. > > Actually I can, but only using the '...' link on the right. The context > menu in file entry row does not work for me too. > > On the disk full message, I called hostmaster for help. > > Kind regards > I am logged in and I am not having any download problems or warning messages with either of the 2 download link options. Best regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Update on Calc Guide
On 06/11/2020 00:05, Felipe Viggiano wrote: > Dave, > As soon as I can fix every issue pointed I will surely let you know. > > One question to the group: > I'm using the Published folder for the files, should I move to the Draft > folder and put back on Published only after finishing? > > Best regards, > Felipe Viggiano Hi Felipe, The current Calc Guide 7.0 NextCloud workspace is the only one which still has the "Draft" and "Feedback" folders. The other mainstream 7.0 guides have been moved over to the new simplified workflow. I did consider changing the Calc Guide 7.0 folder structure, but since there were a number of people actively working on that guide it seemed best to leave structure alone and avoid possible disruption or confusion. I see that Steve has given you a few points to consider before moving to final publication, so I suggest you move copies of all the odt chapter files and compiled books back into the "Feedback" folder until you are fully satisfied that the guide is ready for final publication and then move all the finished content over to the "Published" folder. The reason I suggest keeping the "Published" folder empty for now, is that some native language projects look to that folder for files on which to base the translation or adaptation into their language. Your choice, but I would also suggest the 3 files currently sitting in the "Feedback" be moved to the "Archive" folder. Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Update on Calc Guide
Hi Martin, This was "briefly" discussed at today's Docs meeting. "Briefly", because some recent attempts to use the odtclean script have failed and it was agreed that Oliver will contact Milos about this issue. Be assured we (The Docs Team) always take into account that the guides must be made available in a translatable format. However, you must also understand that the Calc Guide is currently still "work in progress" and has not yet reached it's fully "Published" state. Best Regards Dave On 05/11/2020 19:14, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > Hello, > > could this guide's chapters - as well as other guides' chapters upon being > finished - be cleaned with the odtclean script my Milos to remove unwanted > formatting code and help l10n teams? > > I suggest this becoming a part of the official procedure, as documented in > the guide for writing guides (Producing LO Guides): I suggest adding a > point/step in the "Publishing Chapters" subchapter (between points 7 and 8). > > Lp, m. > > V V čet., 5. nov. 2020 ob 05:38 je oseba Felipe Viggiano < > felipeviggi...@gmail.com> napisala: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> Just uploaded the newest version of the Calc 7.0 Guide on the Published >> Folder. >> All the chapters and the compiled version were updated with Jeans's >> comments and some more corrections. >> >> I'm planning to upload the .pdf files from each chapter by tomorrow. >> >> Best regards, >> Felipe Viggiano >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Update on Calc Guide
Can I add the same thanks and appreciation expressed by Steve. Please let me know when the final publication is approved and I will update the wiki published download files. Best Regards Dave On 05/11/2020 18:39, Steve Fanning wrote: > Hi Felipe, > > Excellent job, thank you very much. > > I have had a look through about 50% of the document and spotted a few > minor typos. I haven't got time to finish today (UK time) but will do so > tomorrow. Can you wait for those comments before publishing? > > One problem which may be more than a typo is that the links to page > numbers within the text don't seem to land at the correct page. For > example, towards the top of page 22 is a link to page 41; for me > clicking the link takes me to the bottom of page 39. On page 82 is a > link to "Figure 43 on page 70"; in this case clicking on the figure > number takes you to the correct place while clicking on the page number > lands on page 66. > > Regards, > > Steve > > > On 05/11/2020 04:38, Felipe Viggiano wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> Just uploaded the newest version of the Calc 7.0 Guide on the Published >> Folder. >> All the chapters and the compiled version were updated with Jeans's >> comments and some more corrections. >> >> I'm planning to upload the .pdf files from each chapter by tomorrow. >> >> Best regards, >> Felipe Viggiano >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Producing LO Guides
Do you propose to: * Update the guide status sheet? * Leave two versions of Chapter 2 in the WIP folder? Dave On 30/10/2020 10:43, Peter Schofield wrote: > An seriously updated version of Chapter 02 Producing LO Guides is now in the > Work In Progress folder for Documentation Team Info ready for review and > comment. > > The filename is 2-ProducingLOGuides-PS-20201030.odt. > > This chapter has been updated using the LO Template version 7.0 and has been > written in the user guide style. This will help any contributor to write or > update a chapter as they have a sample of what a user guide chapter should > look like. The previous version, in my opinion, was very difficult to follow, > definitely not clear on how to produce chapters for a user guide and not a > good sample to follow. > > Some people may disagree with my efforts, but something needs to done and > improve the standard of contributors’ information. > > If there is an agreement on the style used in this update, then I am willing > to tackle the remaining chapters. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Contributors' Guide
Hi Peter, The fact is that the Contributors Guide has not been properly updated from Jean's excellent original since we moved from ODF Authors to NextCloud. There has been some "piecemeal" editing over the last couple of years, which is why I now want to work with you and any of our other long term contributors to produce an updated and accurate guide that will be meaningful and useful for our new contributors. I found the same confusing "Organized by a Committee" structure for Chapter 3 that you have found with Chapter 2. In my current update of Chapter 3 I simply edited what we already had, just to "get the job done", but I will be returning to totally rewrite/restructure Chapter 3 ASAP. I agree that the Contributor Guide should be formatted in the same way as the user guides, even if some of the introductory content is not really appropriate for an internal document like this. For consistency we should apply the Version 7.x template to the Contributors Guide, but the content of this guide has no relevance to version 7.0 of the software. I propose that with the help of any other long term contributors, to fully update and finalize *ALL* chapters of the Documentation Contributors Guide Best Regards Dave Original Message From: Peter Schofield [mailto:psaut...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020, 09:45 UTC To: Dave Barton Cc: LibreOffice Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Contributors' Guide > Hello Dave > > I have being going through Chapter 2 of the Contributors’ Guide and it > definitely needs updating despite only being reviewed earlier this year. > The info is out of date when compared to LibreOffice 7.0. > This chapter has not been transferred to the latest template for user guides. > The contributors’ guide should also use the same template as the user guides > for consistency. > The way the chapter has been written provides a very confusing message. Any > instructions or advice are not very clear or logical. > What are thoughts on these problems? I am updating this chapter and making a > lot of changes to look similar to user guide. > > I think the other chapters need a good once over so that we have a good > contributors’ guide. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help
Hi Marcia, My replies are in-line with the copy of your original message. On 24/10/2020 03:52, marcia wilbur wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > I had Jean's document. Sorry, I don't know which document that would be. > What I need to know is whether the User Guide for each product is separate > from this or not? The "Getting Started with LibreOffice User Guide" is separate from the user guides covering the individual modules of the software. Think of it as an introductory overview of the whole LibreOffice software package. The Getting started guide has an Introduction, 14 Chapters and 2 Appendices: * Introduction * Chapter 1 Introducing LibreOffice * Chapter 2 Setting up LibreOffice * Chapter 3 Using Styles and Templates * Chapter 4 Getting Started with Writer * Chapter 5 Getting Started with Calc * Chapter 6 Getting Started with Impress * Chapter 7 Getting Started with Draw * Chapter 8 Getting Started with Base * Chapter 9 Getting Started with Math * Chapter 10 Printing, Exporting, Emailing and Signing Documents * Chapter 11 Images and Graphics * Chapter 12 Creating HTML Files * Chapter 13 Getting Started with Macros * Chapter 14 Customizing LibreOffice * Appendix A Keyboard Shortcuts * Appendix B Open Source, Open Standards, OpenDocument > Do you reuse the Getting Started guide as the user guide for each product. The user guides for each module go into much greater depth and technical detail than can be covered in the "Getting Started" guide. Obviously, there is some duplication of information, but the module guides are developed separately with some occasional references back to the "Getting Started" guide where appropriate. > In that case, I would just take a pass at the Get Started Guide section for > Writer. Jean has already produced the first draft of chapter 4 and it is now in the WIP folder: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/JPAk9trnycXojyT If you do choose to perform the first review of Chapter 4 please update the guide status sheet: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/9oxcjcKTjaNy2CW If you should need any information about the new workflow, I have updated Chapter 3 Using Docs Team Website of the "Contributors Guide". A copy is available here: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/c44MMXpJeLsyBiA The equivalent wiki page is here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/UsingAuthorsWebsite Note: The information on that page is correct, but I still have some wiki formatting to finish off. > If you have a separate, more "Comprehensive" user guide... then, I would do a > diff... also. > > Let me know. > Thanks Best Regards Dave > - Original Message - > From: "Dave Barton" > To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org > Cc: "marcia wilbur" > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 12:42:18 AM > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help > > Hi Marcia, > > WIP (Work I Progress) is one of the folders in our NextCloud workspace. > If you have been given access to NextCloud, you can find Jean's WIP > files in this folder: > https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/ocb9ASst8PAPkSC > > If you do not have NextCloud access yet, please post a request to this list. > > Hope this helps. > > Best Regards > Dave > > > On 22/10/2020 23:46, marcia wilbur wrote: >> Hi. I was able to access Jean's GSG Writer version but could not find docs >> in WIP folder for 7.0 Writer? >> Is this due to checkout? or where can I access the Writer Guide WIP to >> review. >> >> Thanks. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "marcia wilbur" >> To: "Jean Weber" >> Cc: "LibreOffice Documentation" >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:51:10 PM >> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help >> >> Yes. It does.:) I can take a pass at review. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Jean Weber" >> To: "LibreOffice Documentation" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:06:31 PM >> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help >> >> Several chapters have been updated and need review. Several other chapters >> need to be updated and the reviewed. If you can help, please do. Thank you! >> >> Jean >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help
Hi Marcia, WIP (Work I Progress) is one of the folders in our NextCloud workspace. If you have been given access to NextCloud, you can find Jean's WIP files in this folder: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/ocb9ASst8PAPkSC If you do not have NextCloud access yet, please post a request to this list. Hope this helps. Best Regards Dave On 22/10/2020 23:46, marcia wilbur wrote: > Hi. I was able to access Jean's GSG Writer version but could not find docs in > WIP folder for 7.0 Writer? > Is this due to checkout? or where can I access the Writer Guide WIP to review. > > Thanks. > > - Original Message - > From: "marcia wilbur" > To: "Jean Weber" > Cc: "LibreOffice Documentation" > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:51:10 PM > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help > > Yes. It does.:) I can take a pass at review. > > - Original Message - > From: "Jean Weber" > To: "LibreOffice Documentation" > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 2:06:31 PM > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide needs help > > Several chapters have been updated and need review. Several other chapters > need to be updated and the reviewed. If you can help, please do. Thank you! > > Jean > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 3 of the Contributors Guide Published
Hi Folks, I have completed a final edit of Documentation Contributors’ Guide Chapter 3 Using the Documentation Team Website and moved it to the "Published" folder; https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/nsCbiAAgX8rBqYd I am now working on the update to the equivalent wiki page. Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 3 of the Contributors Guide Published
Hi Folks, I have completed a final edit of Documentation Contributors’ Guide Chapter 3 Using the Documentation Team Website and moved it to the "Published" folder; https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/nsCbiAAgX8rBqYd I am now working on the update to the equivalent wiki page. Best Regards Dave Sorry if this is a duplicate post, I have too many email accounts :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide - Checkout for First Review
Hi Rafael, OK. No problem. BTW. I have modified your entries on the status sheet, not because they were wrong but we are modifying our workflow and file naming structure. I am racing to get the contributor information updated and making changes on-the-fly to the next cloud content in line with the new workflow and file naming structure. Hopefully, we will all be "on the same page" (horrible pun intended :)) ) very soon. Best Regards Dave On 20/10/2020 19:09, Rafael Lima wrote: > Hi Dave! > > You're right. What I'll do is update the chapters from version 6.4 to 7.0. > > I agree with you that it would be better to update just one chapter at a > time. However, the Preface and the first two chapters seem smaller and > simpler to update. This is why I checked out all of them at once. > > For future chapters I'll check them out one at a time. > > Regards, > > Rafael > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 3:03 PM Dave Barton wrote: > >> On 20/10/2020 18:05, Rafael Lima wrote: >>> Hi Team! >>> >>> I am checking out the Preface and Chapters 1 and 2 of the Writer Guide >> for >>> a first review. I expect to return them by October 26. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Rafael Lima >> >> Hi Rafael, >> >> Presumably this is the Writer Guide for version 7.0 >> >> In which case you are starting the new updated editions of chapters from >> the previously published version 6.4, which is a little different from a >> first review of updates done by another author. >> >> It's up to you, but you might find it better to take just one chapter at >> a time rather than to try and tackle a multiple block of chapters all at >> the same time. >> >> Thank you for taking this on. >> >> Best Regards >> Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide - Checkout for First Review
On 20/10/2020 18:05, Rafael Lima wrote: > Hi Team! > > I am checking out the Preface and Chapters 1 and 2 of the Writer Guide for > a first review. I expect to return them by October 26. > > Regards, > > Rafael Lima Hi Rafael, Presumably this is the Writer Guide for version 7.0 In which case you are starting the new updated editions of chapters from the previously published version 6.4, which is a little different from a first review of updates done by another author. It's up to you, but you might find it better to take just one chapter at a time rather than to try and tackle a multiple block of chapters all at the same time. Thank you for taking this on. Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7001-IntroducingLO 1st review.
On 10/10/2020 15:29, DaveB wrote: > I have taken GS7001-IntroducingLO for 1st review.Expected return date > 2020-10-14RegardsDave I have now returned GS7001-IntroducingLO to the WIP folder after first review. I accepted all of Jean's edits. Also corrected a couple of trivial typos and added one comment for consideration. Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question: Direct Formatting documentation?
Direct formatting is not separately documented and deprecated is not the correct terminology, it would be more accurate to say it is discouraged. Nevertheless, there are endless possibilities for Writer to be used in "Typewriter" fashion, which requires little, if any, explanation to place an unnecessary drain on our limited documentation resources. However, the documentation mailing list is definitely not the place for debating the pro and cons of the software's design and usability. Those are matters to be put forward to the developers and UX via Bugzilla: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/ Regards Dave Please address any reply to the mailing list documentation@global.libreoffice.org NOT to me directly. On 19/10/2020 18:08, Luke Kendall wrote: > I wouldn't argue very much with that Dan, but that wasn't my main question. > > I'm asking where (if) DF is documented. > > If your answer indicates it's not documented because it's deprecated, then > there's a much bigger problem. > > I think the design and semantics of DF is Writers' biggest usability > problem, frankly. By far. > > luke > > On Mon., 19 Oct. 2020, 23:21 Dan Lewis, wrote: > >> Using direct formatting is a left over from using a typewriter to create >> text. It is much slower than using styles. Furthermore, it makes editing >> a very labor intensive task. Personal example: I was hired by a lady to >> format the text in a project of hers. >> During our collaboration, she changed her mind as to the font size and >> color of one of the headings found on more than 10 pages. Using styles, >> I did this by changing one style. The font size and the text color were >> changed. That task was done. Had I had to use direct formatting, I would >> have to first find every instance of that heading, highlight it, change >> the color, and change the font. You tell me which would take the most >> time to edit for this one change. So, it would be for every change that >> is desire as the text is edited. My conclusion is that direct formatting >> is a waste of time. >> >> Using direct formatting has been frowned upon both when writing >> documentation and when using Writer since the early 2000's. The above >> paragraph is only one of the reasons. >> >> Dan >> >> On 10/19/20 03:34, Luke (gmail) wrote: >>> I've been slowly learning about Direct Formatting in LibreOffice over >>> the years. I joined this list with the intention of helping document >>> this area of functionality, and in the coming months I may finally >>> have some time to do so. >>> >>> Is there somewhere I can read up on the topic? My feeling is that >>> it's under documented. Use of styles is pretty well documented I >>> believe, but direct formatting is not, I think. >>> >>> E.g. I only recently discovered that if you turn on italics to >>> directly format a word, turn off italics, and continue writing, >>> everything from that point on is still directly formatted. >>> >>> I think the discussion around >>> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135871 shows some >>> of the complexities that can arise, around direct formatting (DF). >>> >>> I believe the new Styles Inspector will help a lot in the use and >>> understanding of styles, so perhaps DF is being documented even now? >>> >>> luke -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Introduction-Chris Smith
Original Message From: Chris [mailto:csmith94...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2020, 22:45 UTC To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Introduction-Chris Smith > Hi, > > My name is Chris Smith, I just recently discovered LibreOffice, and I would > like to help contribute to the documentation team. I’ve been in the technical > communications field for several years, but I’m new to technical writing. I’m > currently working on my technical writing certification at UC Santa Cruz > Silicon Valley Extension. I would be interested in reviewing, editing, > researching, helping with artwork, and once I get more familiar with > LibreOffice, I would like to help write user documentation. > > I have subscribed to the mailing list and created an SSO account. > > Thank you for the opportunity. > > Regards, > > Chris Smith Hi and Welcome Chris, Most of what we do here is updating previous editions of the User Guides to reflect changes made made to more recent versions of the software. At the moment we are updating the guides to cover changes made to version 7.0. For most guides a team member will take and update one or more chapters of a guide, then other team members review those updates. Unfortunately you have joined us at a time when we are making a small change to our workflow and the instructions found in our Contributors Guide book [1] and the equivalent pages on the wiki [2] are in the process of being updated. If you need any information please feel free to ask on this list. You mention that you have created a SSO account, but you need to wait until our team coordinator (Olivier Hallot) has set up access to the Documentation workspace on our NextCloud instance. If you haven't already done so, please subscribe to the documentation mailing list, by sending a message to documentation+subscr...@global.libreoffice.org and follow the instructions that will be mailed back to you. BTW. You seem to have created you original message in MS Word and transferred it to Gmail. Regrettably, by the time the list server has removed the HTML formatting and reduced it to the most primitive form of ASCII text, your message is only just readable. For future reference, the list server also dumps attachments into /dev/null Best Regards Dave [1] https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/LibreOffice%20Documentation/English=57390 [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [VOTE] On changes to documentation workflow.
Hi Peter, Totally agree about the date format. Yes all 5 chapters of the Contributor Guide are on NextCloud in the "Documentation Team Info" folder: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/LibreOffice%20Documentation/English/Contributor%20Resources/Documentation%20Team%20Info/Work%20In%20Progress=314869 Unfortunately the guide is in a state of flux, which is why I am keen to get it updated. We have new contributors coming onboard, but the Guide book chapters and wiki are quite confusing and in some cases contradictory. Best Regards Dave Original Message From: Peter Schofield [mailto:psaut...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020, 13:17 UTC To: Dave Barton Cc: libreOffice Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] [VOTE] On changes to documentation workflow. > Hello Dave > > Definitely agree about the date and using ISO 8601 as the standard. We are an > international team and we all have different ways of writing the date. Using > MMDD (for example 20201019) as the date format is the best way forward in > my opinion. > > I will look at the naming conventions and make corrections. I presume that it > is available in the Contributors’ Resources on LO NextCloud. > > Regards > > Peter > >> On 19 Oct 2020, at 13:10, Dave Barton wrote: >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> Thanks for the offer, but I was close to finishing the write up over a >> week ago and it would have been published by now if Olivier had not >> thrown in the idea of using the NextCloud versioning facility. I expect >> to have Chapter 3 of the Contributor Guide book and wiki done in the >> next day or two. >> >> However I did want to speak with you about using a standard date format >> for both the file names and the workflow status. sheets. I don't know >> about other contributors, but Jean and I both have a preference for the >> ISO 8601 (MMDD) date format. That could be with or without dot, dash >> or slash separators, where 20201019 would be the same as 2020-10-19. >> >> However it would be helpful if you could revise the "Naming conventions >> for LibreOffice user guides" section in Chapter 2 of the Contributors Guide. >> >> Best Regards >> Dave >> >> Original Message >> From: Peter Schofield [mailto:psaut...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020, 06:15 UTC >> To: Dave Barton >> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] [VOTE] On changes to documentation >> workflow. >> >>> Hello Dave >>> >>> Do you want me to write the instructions on how to use the folder system >>> for the contributors’ guide. >>> >>> Regards >>> Peter Schofield >>> psaut...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 17 Oct 2020, at 16:08, Dave Barton wrote: >>>> >>>> On 13/10/2020 18:08, DaveB wrote: >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> Other than Peter Schofield nobody else has expressed any thoughts or >>>>> opinions as whether or not we should adopt the NextCloud versioning >>>>> system, or should we continue with the proposed folder structure and >>>>> file naming format, so I propose a poll: >>>>> >>>>> Option 1. >>>>> Go ahead with the simplified folder structure and file naming format, >>>>> >>>>> or >>>>> >>>>> Option 2. >>>>> Adopt the NextCloud versioning system. >>>>> >>>>> I propose closing the vote at 17:00 UTC on Friday 16th. October 2020. >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards >>>>> Dave >>>> >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> >>>> The vote is now closed and 9 people voted: >>>> >>>> Option 1 = 9 votes >>>> Option 2 = 0 votes >>>> >>>> I will try and get the relevant parts of the Contributors Guide books >>>> and wiki pages updated as soon as possible. >>>> >>>> Best Regards >>>> Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] self- introduction
On 16/10/2020 21:57, adam lax wrote: > Dear Documentation team, > > My name is Adam Lax. > > I'm very interested in getting involved as a volunteer to help with open > source projects. I come from the higher education/ non profit sector with > over 4 years of experience teaching college level writing to ESL students. > I'm looking to transition into technical writing and would like to get more > direct experience with the documentation process by volunteering on a > project.I believe my extensive writing, editing, and proofreading > experience can be quite helpful. > > As an educator, I have also honed a strong ability to explain orally and in > written form concepts, ideas, and tasks in a thorough and step-by-step > manner for those who are not familiar with them or even speak English as a > first language. > > I would appreciate any guidance you all can give me in just starting out. > I'm eager to learn and apply my writing skills to this team! > > Best, > > Adam Lax > International Education Policy, MA > 2015-2016 US Department of State Fulbright Scholar: > aplchinafulbright.weebly.com > Cell number- 301-758-1125 Hi & Welcome Adam, Your experience will be helpful. The Documentation Contributors Guide can be found here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation You have joined us at a time when we are making some small changes to our workflow and I am in the process of updating the information there. If you haven't already done so, please subscribe to the documentation mailing list, see "How to get started" on the above page. Where you will also find information about the TDF Single sign on (SSO) facility. Once you have your SSO credentials post back to this list and our team coordinator (Olivier Hallot) will arrange access to our NextCloud workspace for you. Please feel free to post to this list with any questions you may have. TIP: Emails sent to this list must be in plain primitive ASCII text, HTML and attachments are not accepted. Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] [VOTE] On changes to documentation workflow.
On 13/10/2020 18:08, DaveB wrote: > Hi All, > > Other than Peter Schofield nobody else has expressed any thoughts or > opinions as whether or not we should adopt the NextCloud versioning > system, or should we continue with the proposed folder structure and > file naming format, so I propose a poll: > > Option 1. > Go ahead with the simplified folder structure and file naming format, > > or > > Option 2. > Adopt the NextCloud versioning system. > > I propose closing the vote at 17:00 UTC on Friday 16th. October 2020. > > Best Regards > Dave Hi Folks, The vote is now closed and 9 people voted: Option 1 = 9 votes Option 2 = 0 votes I will try and get the relevant parts of the Contributors Guide books and wiki pages updated as soon as possible. Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] GS7001-IntroducingLO
I have taken GS7001-IntroducingLO for 1st review. Expected return date 2020-10-14 Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Can we please finalise the 7.x template?
Sorry, I missed one other change we must make to the 7.x template. Remove "Community Edition" from the image on the first page. Regards Dave On 17/09/2020 10:39, Dave Barton wrote: > Hi Olivier, > > I did not in any way suggest we enter into a long protracted discussion > about the color of every element of the template. My only recommendation > was that we keep the same green heading colors used since the first > publication of our 3.4 guides. As Jean said in another post to this > thread, she only changed them to black as a compromise to the idea of > different color headings for different books. > > I agree that we take Jean's final template as basis for the version 7 > Guides, with the recommendation that we keep the original heading colors. > > I completely disagree with your suggestion that authors (however we > define them) should be able to choose any color(s) for the book they are > working on. Would the team be happy if I make "Fire Engine Red" the > color for the next Getting Started guide? > > Best Regards > Dave > > On 16/09/2020 22:25, Olivier Hallot wrote: >> HI Dave >> If we keep discussion on the color of the template elements, we will >> never set a final decision. >> >> I recommend we take Jean's final template as basis for each Guide. It >> does not prevent authors to choose another color for their book. >> Actually it is trivial to change, as we know. >> >> Kind regards >> Olivier >> >> >> >> Em 15/09/2020 12:23, DaveB escreveu: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> The decision on finalising the 7.x has been on the Docs Team meeting >>> agenda for several weeks without any final decision/agreement. >>> >>> I make no secret of the fact that, apart from a couple of minor >>> technical points, I saw no good reason to change from the 6.x template. >>> Nevertheless, Jean has put forward a very good 7.x template proposal and >>> I think we should use this thread to discuss her proposal and come to a >>> final agreement on changes, if any, that should be made to that proposal. >>> >>> My only recommendation for the proposed 7.x template would be to change >>> the black Heading text colours back to the previous #18a303 >>> RGB(24,163,3), because the stark B presentation would make the guides >>> appear dull, uninteresting and to some degree unprofessional, when >>> compared to our previous publications. >>> >>> I am not a fan of deadlines, but it would be good if we could come to >>> some level of agreement by, or before, the next Docs Team meeting on >>> September 24th. >>> >>> Best Regards >>> Dave >>> >> > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Can we please finalise the 7.x template?
Hi Olivier, I did not in any way suggest we enter into a long protracted discussion about the color of every element of the template. My only recommendation was that we keep the same green heading colors used since the first publication of our 3.4 guides. As Jean said in another post to this thread, she only changed them to black as a compromise to the idea of different color headings for different books. I agree that we take Jean's final template as basis for the version 7 Guides, with the recommendation that we keep the original heading colors. I completely disagree with your suggestion that authors (however we define them) should be able to choose any color(s) for the book they are working on. Would the team be happy if I make "Fire Engine Red" the color for the next Getting Started guide? Best Regards Dave On 16/09/2020 22:25, Olivier Hallot wrote: > HI Dave > If we keep discussion on the color of the template elements, we will > never set a final decision. > > I recommend we take Jean's final template as basis for each Guide. It > does not prevent authors to choose another color for their book. > Actually it is trivial to change, as we know. > > Kind regards > Olivier > > > > Em 15/09/2020 12:23, DaveB escreveu: >> Hi all, >> >> The decision on finalising the 7.x has been on the Docs Team meeting >> agenda for several weeks without any final decision/agreement. >> >> I make no secret of the fact that, apart from a couple of minor >> technical points, I saw no good reason to change from the 6.x template. >> Nevertheless, Jean has put forward a very good 7.x template proposal and >> I think we should use this thread to discuss her proposal and come to a >> final agreement on changes, if any, that should be made to that proposal. >> >> My only recommendation for the proposed 7.x template would be to change >> the black Heading text colours back to the previous #18a303 >> RGB(24,163,3), because the stark B presentation would make the guides >> appear dull, uninteresting and to some degree unprofessional, when >> compared to our previous publications. >> >> I am not a fan of deadlines, but it would be good if we could come to >> some level of agreement by, or before, the next Docs Team meeting on >> September 24th. >> >> Best Regards >> Dave >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for a change to the NextCloud workflow
Minor correction in terminology: "other team members might wish to include some additional identification." Should have read: "other team members might wish to include some additional *or alternative* identification." On 15/09/2020 16:22, DaveB wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Sounds good. There are a couple of things we need to clarify/finalise; > > Would you be kind enough to put forward a proposal for the file naming > convention to be used for the new workflow/structure? I would be happy > with something like "GS7001 Introducing LibreOffice #1.odt" but you and > other team members might wish to include some additional identification. > It would be good if the team can reach consensus on this asap. > > The 7.0 template needs to be finalised. I will raise a separate thread > about this. > > Officially Retired? Good grief, I don't know how I ever found time for > everyday work :))) > > Best Regards > Dave > > Original Message > From: Peter Schofield [mailto:psaut...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 13:32 UTC > To: DaveB > Cc: LibreOffice > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for a change to the > NextCloud workflow > >> Hello Dave >> >> I shall trial the new folders for th Draw Guide 7.0 having just created the >> skeleton of the guide. In other words, creating chapters using the 7.0 >> template and posting in basic information. >> >> It is not so onerous doing the two guides. More than half go the Draw Guide >> is already done. It is called the Impress Guide. Just have to check all >> screen shots to make sure they are OK for the Draw Guide >> >> It keeps me busy now being officially retired. >> >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com >> >> >> >>> On 15 Sep 2020, at 12:46, DaveB wrote: >>> >>> Hi Peter and Team, >>> >>> My responses are given in-line. >>> >>> ---- Original Message >>> From: Peter Schofield [mailto:psaut...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 07:50 UTC >>> To: DaveB >>> Cc: LibreOffice >>> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for a change to the >>> NextCloud workflow >>> >>>> Hello Dave and Samantha >>>> >>>> I am with you and agree to the proposed changes, despite having slight >>>> disagreement about folders. >>> >>> That's good to know. I am sure we can find a way to resolve small >>> disagreements. >>> >>>> Work in Progress is definitely the best name for a working folder. Archive >>>> folder fits the bill perfectly. >>> >>> WIP (Work in Progress) seems to be a more accurate description of the >>> folder's purpose and I can think of no good reason to change the Archive >>> folder name. >>> >>>> File naming is the only thing that bugs me. Adding the date into the >>>> filename is not necessary and does make it cumbersome. >>> >>> As I said in my reply to Sam, I am comfortable with whatever file naming >>> convention the team reaches consensus on. >>> >>>> Adding a version number (01,02, etc) to the filename would be insurance IF >>>> someone forgets to move old files into Archive. >>> >>> Sure. Each filename being being unique is the only thing I consider to >>> be important. How that unique identity is defined is for the team to >>> agree upon. >>> >>>> As I am already working on th Impress Guide as a whole, I suppose I have >>>> editorial control??? >>>> >>>> Also, I am starting to work on the Draw Guide, which, in theory, I also >>>> have editorial control??? >>>> >>>> The Draw Guide and Impress Guide are very similar and I am swapping >>>> information between the two guides. >>> >>> Since you have taken on the (IMO somewhat onerous) task of almost >>> single-handedly rewriting those guides, I doubt that anyone would >>> question that you should have editorial control of those guides. >>> >>> I have been asked to take on the role of "Guide Coordinator" for version >>> 7 of the Getting Started Guide, but I have no intention (or ability) to >>> single-handedly rewrite all the chapters for that guide. I was very >>> impressed by Steve Fanning's management of the Calc Guide, but I doubt >>> that I will be able to make the same level of commitment to Getting >>> Star
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
I keep forgetting LO lists only use outdated teletype formatting, so I am repeating my previous post in quill pen and parchment style: Hi Peter, The original 6.x template has/had: 30 Applied Paragraph Styles + Default = Caption Code Contents 1 Contents 2 Contents 3 Contents Heading Definition Term Figure Footer Guide Name Heading 1 Heading 2 Heading 3 Heading Caution Heading Note Heading Tip List List 1 List 2 Numbering 1 Numbering 2 Numbering 3 Page Break Subtitle Table Contents Table Heading Text Body Text Body Indent Text Note Title 6 Applied Character Styles + Default Code Emphasis Index Link Internet Link Keystroke Strong Emphasis I think Jean would also like one styled as LOList 1_TextBody to assist with the creating of list items under some circumstances. Which styles would you like to see removed? Originally there was only one 6.x template in the Nextcloud "Contributor Resources" folder, but for some unknown reason folks kept creating additional editions with their own modifications. Hopefully, the Docs Team can agree on using just the one 7.x template and save save unnecessary extra work for the person compiling the final book for publication. However, this seems unlikely since there are already two versions of the proposed 7.x template in the Nextcloud "Contributor Resources" folder. Regards Dave On 04/06/2020 14:42, Peter Schofield wrote: > Hello > > There is nothing wrong with LO version 6 template, except the number of > styles. The only thing that needs doing is serious look at the number of > styles and the question should be asked is do we need the all. > > The version 6 template does need to be updated to match what is happening in > version 7, if necessary. > > Mixing sans serif and serif never looks good in a user guide. It is best to > keep to one style of font. Sans serif is good and it matches what a user > would normally see on their computer screen when using LibreOffice. > > There need to be only one of the version 7 template. At the moment there are > too many copies of the version 6 template floating around and which one do > you use? > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com > > > >> On 4 Jun 2020, at 13:37, DaveB wrote: >> >> I will not be joining today's meeting, but since my name still appears >> in some of the proposed template's comments I will make some observations: >> >> * Is there really any important reason to make major changes to the >> existing 6.x template, or is this just change for the sake of change? >> >> * I agree with Steve's comments below. In my view the mix of sans serif >> and serif fonts used give the template a somewhat messy jumbled >> appearance and adds nothing to the readability. >> >> * Why are the guides (the software?) going to be given the title of >> "Community Edition"? Did I miss the announcement about the commercial or >> some other edition? >> >> * My view is that unless there is some technical usability improvement >> that can be made to the existing 6.x template, the 7.x template should >> only include a few cosmetic changes in line with the software's PR >> version number change. >> >> My 2¢ worth. >> >> Regards >> Dave >> >> On 04/06/2020 11:25, Steve Fanning wrote: >>> Hi Olivier, >>> >>> Some personal thoughts on your proposed LO7 template, in advance of the >>> team meeting to be held later. >>> >>> I think that switching the Text Body paragraph style from a sans serif >>> font to a serif font is an important decision which shouldn’t be made >>> without proper consideration of its impact. We certainly shouldn’t >>> commit to that change just because it distinguishes LO7 from LO6. Will >>> users of the guides find them more or less readable and attractive after >>> the font change?If the team decide to use the serif font for the Text >>> Body style, would it be better to use the same font family for the >>> character styles? This would avoid mixing sans serif and serif >>> characters in a single sentence.On the first page of the template, I >>> preferred the chapter number, chapter title and chapter subtitle lines >>> to be left justified, as in the LO6 template. >>> Regards, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> -- Original Message -- >>> From: "Olivier Hallot" >>> To: "LibreOffice Documentation" >>> Sent: 02/06/2020 20:51:20 >>> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template >>> >>>> Hi Team >&
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Would like to help out
Hi Shy Person :) The Documentation Team Coordinator Olivier Hallot is the only one who can arrange access for you and I anticipate that he will act on the information you have provided here. If you have not already do so, please subscribe to this list by sending an email to: documentation+subscr...@global.libreoffice.org and by responding to the confirmation request. Welcome to the project. Best Regards Dave Original Message From: AEH [mailto:4.lex.11.s+libreoff...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020, 16:40 UTC To: Dave Barton Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Would like to help out > Hello Dave, > Thanks for your response, ok I've read the page, for the account > creation my SSO id is aehaeringer > (sorry I don't really feel like letting my id on internet) > Best regards > > > Le lun. 13 avr. 2020 à 18:26, Dave Barton <mailto:da...@libreoffice.org>> a écrit : > > > > *From:* AEH [mailto:4.lex.11.s+libreoff...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 13, 2020, 15:42 UTC > *To:* documentation@global.libreoffice.org > <mailto:documentation@global.libreoffice.org> > *Subject:* [libreoffice-documentation] Would like to help out > >> Hello, >> A long time ago, I participated in the French translation of TheBat!. For >> some time now, I've been searching in vain how to contribute to >> https://help.libreoffice.org. And that's why I'm here! >> I'd like to get involved at LibreOffice and hopefully make a >> contribution. >> >> JFYI on my initial motivations: >> I was looking to complete the documentation on the use of styles in >> swriter. Especially the operation of style inheritance, including >> the functioning of "standard" button in the style control interface >> (example: Paragraph Style: Heading) >> >> https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/swriter/guide/templates_styles.html?DbPAR=WRITER >> >> Thanks! > > If you wish to contribute to the documentation a good starting point > would be to read this page: > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development > > Regards > Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Would like to help out
From:AEH [mailto:4.lex.11.s+libreoff...@gmail.com] Sent:Monday, April 13, 2020, 15:42 UTC To:documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject:[libreoffice-documentation] Would like to help out Hello, A long time ago, I participated in the French translation of TheBat!. For some time now, I've been searching in vain how to contribute tohttps://help.libreoffice.org. And that's why I'm here! I'd like to get involved at LibreOffice and hopefully make a contribution. JFYI on my initial motivations: I was looking to complete the documentation on the use of styles in swriter. Especially the operation of style inheritance, including the functioning of "standard" button in the style control interface (example: Paragraph Style: Heading)https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/swriter/guide/templates_styles.html?DbPAR=WRITERThanks! If you wish to contribute to the documentation a good starting point would be to read this page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development RegardsDave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Raster Graphics or Bitmap Images
On 06/04/2020 16:33, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Peter Schofield schrieb am 06-Apr-20 um 16:17: >> To help me update Chapter 6 in the Draw Guide to version 6.4, which >> term is preferred Raster Graphics or Bitmap Images? >> >> Raster graphics are bitmap images. >> >> Bitmap images is the more widely known file format and uses the >> extension BMP. >> >> Does LO stay in the past or move forwards to modern times? > > "Raster graphic" is the opposite to "Vector graphic" and covers more > then "Bitmap", which is usually only used for BMP. "Raster graphic" > covers png and jpg too, for example. > > Kind regards > Regina +1 I think we should stick with the technically correct terminology of "Raster Graphic". Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Template in NextCloud
On 06/04/2020 14:58, Toni B wrote: > Hello! > > Is the LibreOffice_6.x_Template.ott (197 KB, 10 months ago) located in the > NextCloud Contributor Resources folder the most updated template that I > should use to edit the documents? Or is their one on the Wiki that is the > one that gets updated the most? > > Thank you for your guidance! > > Have a safe and awesome day! > > Toni Hi Toni, The only chapter templates I can find on the wiki are the obsolete ones at the bottom of this page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/User_Guides It is fairly safe to say that the template in the NextCloud Contributor Resources folder (currently 6.x) will always be the one the docs team will have agreed to use. Unfortunately, most of the documentation information on the wiki is either out of date or work in progress. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation]
On 04/04/2020 19:22, Mail wrote: > Im unable to login using my standard password. May I request some form of > assistance? If you tell us what/where you are trying to log into, then maybe we can assist. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer 6.4 - Chapter 1 - Reviewed/Updated
On 02/04/2020 20:58, Toni B wrote: > One question I have: Are we using Strong Emphasis or MenuPath character > style for commands such as File -> Save? Some of the documentation says to > use MenuPath, but some comments on the latest template said Strong Emphasis > might be less work. Hi Toni, If you can provide a link to the documentation where it says "MenuPath" and I will correct it, For a short period of time was a template with the character style "LOMenuPath" was being used, but this was changed when we agreed, as far as possible, to use standard style names in the current template. The 6.x template "Strong Emphasis" is the correct character style. Best Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question about resolving comments
Hi Toni,I have to admit that you are much more observant than I am. I had not noticed the change in Writer's comments menu. In previous versions (eg. 5.4) there was a comment option to "Reply", which added a comment linked to the existing one. If that option still existed it would better serve your purpose of notifying subsequent reviewers. Our guides offer no indication about the intended purpose of this "Resolve" option and searching several possible resources uncovers no information. I will make a more thorough search through past release notes to see if they offer any clue.Maybe it is time for an enhancement/reversion request bug report, or we can simply ignore the "Resolve" option and just add more text to the existing comment.Kind RegardsDave From: Toni B [mailto:trblack5...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 19:35 UTC To:Dave Barton Cc:documentation@global.libreoffice.orgSubject:[libreoffice-documentation] Question about resolving comments Hi Dave,Thank you for your reply! In reviewing comments, if you click on the caret at the bottom, the choices come up Reply, Resolve, Delete Comment, etc. I was hoping to "Resolve" some of the comments without deleting them, so I was marking some as such. The reasoning behind it is in case the next reviewer has the same question or is curious why something was done in a certain way. Thank you for your help! Kind regards, Toni On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 2:56 PM Dave Bartondaveb@libreoffice.orgwrote:On 31/03/2020 18:56, Toni B wrote:Good afternoon!I noticed if resolve a comment, save the Writer file, exit then reopen thefile, the comment has become "unresolved". Should I be deleting thecomments instead?Thanks for you help.Kind regards,ToniHi Toni,Can you please explain in a bit more detail, maybe step by step, whatyou mean by "RESOLVING a comment"? The word "resolve" is not part of thecommon terminology we use. On the other hand, I might be totally missingthe point :)Normally if I see a comment in a draft/review document that I can answerI will do that, otherwise I might add a (hopefully) usefuladdition/response to the comment for others to consider and respond to.With a bit more clarification we can probably provide a useful answer toyour question.In closing I have to say your input and contributions to thedocumentation team are much appreciated.ThanksKind RegardsDave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question about resolving comments
On 31/03/2020 18:56, Toni B wrote: > Good afternoon! > I noticed if resolve a comment, save the Writer file, exit then reopen the > file, the comment has become "unresolved". Should I be deleting the > comments instead? > > Thanks for you help. > > Kind regards, > Toni Hi Toni, Can you please explain in a bit more detail, maybe step by step, what you mean by "RESOLVING a comment"? The word "resolve" is not part of the common terminology we use. On the other hand, I might be totally missing the point :) Normally if I see a comment in a draft/review document that I can answer I will do that, otherwise I might add a (hopefully) useful addition/response to the comment for others to consider and respond to. With a bit more clarification we can probably provide a useful answer to your question. In closing I have to say your input and contributions to the documentation team are much appreciated. Thanks & Kind Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Embedded Links 4 Click Through
Hi Caroline, First point, you do not need to cc me in your replies, I do best reading just one copy of messages sent to the list :) I am aware that some editors like to develop documentation directly on-line. Personally this is something I would never consider doing under any circumstances. I always download the ODF file, edit off-line and upload my updated draft/review, which means I always have ready instant access to links that I might need to test/check. Whether or not the on-line or off-line method is efficient is open to debate. Due to circumstances prevailing within the LO project in recent years, we were obliged to move our documentation development to Nextcloud and learn to adapt to it's shortcomings and limitations. Personally, I don't like it, but I have learned to live with it. Regards Dave On 24/03/2020 16:26, Caroline Carlisle Tidwell wrote: > I wonder if this process is efficient if it has to be added at a different > step in the process or it could be during our developing or later stage? > > I suppose my argument as an editor is how can I validate URL accuracy & > functionality if the links are never functioning from a UAT perspective > until the next step in the Guttenberg process so to speak? > > Regards & thanks, > CCT > > 1.404.584.8180 office > www.linkedin.com/in/vandyjuggler > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:49 AM Dave Barton wrote: > >> >> Hi Caroline, >> >> We do not publish from NextCloud. This is just our workspace for >> developing the documentation in preparation for for publication. >> >> The final published documents (complete with clickable links) are then >> made available from our website: >> https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/ >> and our Wiki: >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications >> >> eBooks can take different forms, we make the eBook editions of the >> documentation available in PDF. As Dan has already pointed out preparing >> the guides in other eBook formats (eg. epub, mobi, azw3, etc.) requires >> some additional work. >> >> Dave >> >> On 24/03/2020 13:14, Caroline Carlisle Tidwell wrote: >>> Hello, team. >>> >>> It seems in the other word processing methods for publishing that you can >>> embed a link to click through fairly easily. I was curious as to if we >> have >>> coded this idea using the NextCloud publishing format as it seems that >> the >>> links throughout all of the documents & chapters do not click through at >>> this time, but are just listed as a link. Usually, you list the link in >> the >>> text & then you sort of dig it deeper into the code with a second >> reference >>> string push on top of that one. >>> >>> For the digital publishing world, I would think reading the >>> reference manual as an eBook would like an easy one click click through >>> would function? Any ideas or notes on this one for digital publishing? >>> >>> Regards, >>> CCT -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Embedded Links 4 Click Through
Hi Caroline, We do not publish from NextCloud. This is just our workspace for developing the documentation in preparation for for publication. The final published documents (complete with clickable links) are then made available from our website: https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/ and our Wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications eBooks can take different forms, we make the eBook editions of the documentation available in PDF. As Dan has already pointed out preparing the guides in other eBook formats (eg. epub, mobi, azw3, etc.) requires some additional work. Dave On 24/03/2020 13:14, Caroline Carlisle Tidwell wrote: > Hello, team. > > It seems in the other word processing methods for publishing that you can > embed a link to click through fairly easily. I was curious as to if we have > coded this idea using the NextCloud publishing format as it seems that the > links throughout all of the documents & chapters do not click through at > this time, but are just listed as a link. Usually, you list the link in the > text & then you sort of dig it deeper into the code with a second reference > string push on top of that one. > > For the digital publishing world, I would think reading the > reference manual as an eBook would like an easy one click click through > would function? Any ideas or notes on this one for digital publishing? > > Regards, > CCT > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Team Meeting
It was agreed some time ago that the Docs Team meeting would change from weekly to bi-weekly, but in recent months this routine has not been maintained. In another post I have proposed the next meting be held on Thursday, 26th. March at at 18:00 UTC. Dave On 24/03/2020 13:34, Caroline Carlisle Tidwell wrote: > I think it is a once a month meeting, but we sometimes have them at other > times? See the details below for more information. > > Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) ! > > Our documentation team meeting will take place today at 18:00 UTC > > We will use the following jitsi meeting room > > https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam > > The meeting room is supposed to work will all browsers without the need > of a specific plugin. You can use a mobile app in your Android or Iphone. > > The documentation pad for the meeting minute is > > http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation > > Main topics: > > Please fill the topics you want to discuss in the pad. > > See you later! > > 1.404.584.8180 office > www.linkedin.com/in/vandyjuggler > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:55 AM Pulkit Krishna > wrote: > >> When is the next docs team meeting? >> >> Pulkit Krishna -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice Tutorial
A date has not yet been set. I propose the next meting be held on Thursday, 26th. March at at 18:00 UTC. If others prefer an alternative date or time please write back to this thread with your preference. I would make 2 observations on the subject of this thread: 1. There are a number of third party tutorials (including the one by Bernard John Poole) linked from our wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Third_Party_Resources 2. In terms of available contributors our resources are already spread much too thinly for us to properly update and revise the existing guides, without diluting our resources even further to rewrite an existing publication. While this is a "nice" idea, it would only serve to detract from the main work of producing User Guides and the software's Help facility. Obviously, if any individual chooses to undertake a rewrite of any third party publication they are free to do so, but I do not think it should become part of the documentation team's workload. Dave On 24/03/2020 12:12, Pulkit Krishna wrote: > Hello, > When is the next meeting? > > Pulkit Krishna > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 5:13 PM Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > >> Hi, Pulkit, >> >> decisions as to what the official Documentation-team-produced >> documentation will be is decided on Doc team meetings. >> >> Maybe it would be best to discuss this there before you start working on >> it. >> >> Lp, m. >> >> V V tor., 24. mar. 2020 ob 07:35 je oseba Pulkit Krishna < >> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> napisala: >> >>> Hello Everybody, >>> I have created a folder called LibreOffice Tutorials. I have placed the >>> Work Files for LibreOffice 6 in the supplemental folder inside it. I have >>> also uploaded the first draft of preface and chapter 1. I have updated the >>> spreadsheet accordingly. Can anyone take the preface and chapter 1 for its >>> review. I think 1 review would suffice. >>> >>> Pulkit Krishna >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 11:39 AM Pulkit Krishna < >>> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I will start the work. >>>> >>>> Pulkit Krishna >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 11:34 AM Drew Jensen < >>> drewjensen.in...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:43 AM Pulkit Krishna < >>> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am not saying to remove the original guide. They can be there for >>> the >>>>>> teachers. We can change it to make it for everyone and publish the >>> new >>>>>> guides. >>>>>> I have asked the permission of Benard Poole for it. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That is all well and good and if you really want to spend time >>> re-writing >>>>> it great. >>>>> >>>>> What I'm saying is that what I would like to see first and also is for >>> the >>>>> documentation page on the main website to have a place for listing >>> these >>>>> types of resources so they get some visibility. >>>>> >>>>> Another example, a series of books I didn't see listed there from Bruce >>>>> Byfield who did a nice job a couple years back on Typographic Design >>> with >>>>> LibreOffice. I'm sure there are others. I think the ROI would be much >>>>> greater doing that then rewriting things so they are LO branded and >>>>> distributed from the TDF infrastructure. >>>>> >>>>> Drew >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pulkit Krishna >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:55 AM Pulkit Krishna < >>>>> pulkitkrishn...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not saying to remove the original guide. They can be there for >>>>> the >>>>>>> teachers. We can change it to make it for everyone and publish the >>> new >>>>>>> guides. >>>>>>> I have asked the permission of Benard Poole for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pulkit Krishna >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:51 AM Drew Jensen < >>>>> drewjensen.in...@gmail.com >>>>>&g
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 3 - Impress Chapter
On 16/03/2020 17:23, Dave Barton wrote: > I have taken your draft for first review and updated the Guide Status sheet. > > Regards > Dave After a provisional check through of this draft I now realise that the review/revision requires more time than I have to spare. I have now removed myself from guide status spreadsheet, so that anyone who wishes to take this chapter for first review is free to do so. Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Text Toolbar
Thanks Peter, Yes that is the fix, but I would definitely classify that fix as a bug. Regards Dave Original Message From: Peter Schofield [mailto:psaut...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020, 14:14 UTC To: Dave Barton; LibreOffice Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Text Toolbar > Hello Dave > > Vertical text toolbar only appears if Asian languages is set in Tools > > Options > Language Settings > Languages. This works in :LibreOffice Version > 6.4.1.2 Windows 7 and Version 6.4.0.3 in macOS. When you turn on Asian > languages, you have to restart LibreOffice for it to take effect. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com > > > >> On 17 Mar 2020, at 14:45, Dave Barton wrote: >> >> I am currently reviewing a chapter for the Impress User Guide 6.4. >> >> Part of this chapter refers to the "Text Toolbar" which is not visible >> by default. Once the toolbar is made visible it should be possible to >> make 3 additional toolbar buttons visible: >> * Vertical Text >> * Fit Vertical Text to Frame >> * Vertical Callouts >> >> Under LO Version: 6.4.1.2 (x64 & x86) Windows and Linux (x64) these 3 >> additional buttons cannot be made visible and the functions they provide >> cannot be accessed via this toolbar. >> The issue does NOT appear in: >> LO portable 6.4.1.2 or 6.3.5.2 (x86 only) >> Linux Mint provided Version 6.0.7.3 >> >> I have checked Bugzilla and unless I have overlooked it this issue does >> not appear to have been reported yet. >> >> Could someone here please check if this is a real issue or just a glitch >> in the configuration of my machines? >> >> TIA >> Dave >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Text Toolbar
I am currently reviewing a chapter for the Impress User Guide 6.4. Part of this chapter refers to the "Text Toolbar" which is not visible by default. Once the toolbar is made visible it should be possible to make 3 additional toolbar buttons visible: * Vertical Text * Fit Vertical Text to Frame * Vertical Callouts Under LO Version: 6.4.1.2 (x64 & x86) Windows and Linux (x64) these 3 additional buttons cannot be made visible and the functions they provide cannot be accessed via this toolbar. The issue does NOT appear in: LO portable 6.4.1.2 or 6.3.5.2 (x86 only) Linux Mint provided Version 6.0.7.3 I have checked Bugzilla and unless I have overlooked it this issue does not appear to have been reported yet. Could someone here please check if this is a real issue or just a glitch in the configuration of my machines? TIA Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 3 - Impress Chapter
On 16/03/2020 16:25, Dimona Delvere wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I just would like to let you know that I have uploaded Impress Guide, Chapter > 3 to the Draft Folder. > > I am wondering if someone could have a look at the functionality of the Tab > page (Paragraph dialog). > > The changes I have selected in the Tabs page didn't affect my presentation. I > also left the comment about it in the document. > > Dimona > > Dimona Delvere Hi Dimona, Thank you for your contributions here. Apart from a small number of exceptional cases, it has always been the Docs team practice to edit and review chapters with the "track changes" facility turned on. This is very useful in helping reviewers understand the rational behind the original author's changes. I have taken your draft for first review and updated the Guide Status sheet. Regards Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Use of the Escape key
On 08/03/2020 12:38, Cor Nouws wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > Stephen Fanning wrote on 08/03/2020 00:33: >> I am reviewing Appendix A (Keyboard Shortcuts) of the Getting Started Guide >> v6.4 and have a question which somebody may be able to answer for me. >> >> In a section entitled “Getting help”, the following description is given of >> the Escape key’s function in the context of help information: “In >> LibreOffice Help: goes up one level. For Help online, the key is handled by >> the browser”. > > The old local installed 'built-in' Help, opens separate dialogs. > Usually, ESC closes a dialog, triggering Cancel. For the built-in Help, > that is not relevant. So ESC does not close the dialog. Neither does it > go up one level (assuming that is meant back to a previous visited page, > or up to chapter level from paragraph). > >> Is the first part of this text a throwback to an old method of providing >> help? If so, is it correct to say that this key is now handled by the >> browser irrespective of whether the help is local or online? > > Unless someone else comes up with a description that makes sense and > adds something to the user experience (I can't remember using ESC in the > browser), I would suggest to leave that part out. > > Cor I would agree with Cor. The "Help" facility, both on-line and local is a set of HTML files viewed in a web browser and the web browser's navigation controls are used. So +1 to drop the "Esc" key from the "Getting Help" shortcut keys. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Nextcloud is empty?
On 03/02/2020 06:21, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: > Guilhem Moulin schreef op 02.02.2020 19:08: >> Hi from FOSDEM :-) >> >> On Sun, 02 Feb 2020 at 08:16:24 +, Dave Barton wrote: >>> I am cc'ing the website list. Maybe there is some maintenance in >>> progress. >> >> I see nothing wrong with that folder, someone deleted the files so the >> folder is now empty. Not an infra matters AFAICT. > > That is a big problem then. > Is there a backup of the files? > > Kees >> >> Cheers, >> -- >> Guilhem. OK you have convinced us that infra was not the cause of the problem. Now can you answer Kees question and prove that infra might be part of the solution. Dave -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
