Re: [Dri-devel] Re: New ATI FireGL drivers announced

2002-11-22 Thread Daryll Strauss
The dri-devel list isn't ATI support. The announcement about the code was fine. I think we all want to know about other versions out there for comparison sake if nothing else. Once people started asking about powered by ati boards, other platforms, and other troubleshooting, it was no longer

Re: [Dri-devel] Updates to texmem-0-0-1 branch

2002-11-15 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 11:20:07AM +, Ian Molton wrote: No rush - I wasnt criticising, just making the statement so people would know I intend to have a crack at Voodoo3 support and not drop any code on the floor. I would hope Ian R's texmem stuff doesn't mean dropping the remaining

Re: [Dri-devel] Savage and nVidia DRI drivers

2002-10-31 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 03:58:29PM +, José Fonseca wrote: The Voodoo 2 specs are available from http://www.medex.hu/~danthe/tdfx/ . I don't know what's the current state of the tdfx driver in respect with Voodoo 2. The tdfx driver is quite different from any other driver because it uses

Re: [Dri-devel] glXGetProcAddress question

2002-04-26 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 12:49:20AM +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote: Ian Romanick wrote: On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 12:31:46AM +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote: Ian Romanick wrote: What ends up happening is glXGetProcAddress returns the address of the glBegin symbol from my executable (in

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon AGP?

2002-03-20 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:26:41PM -0800, Ian Romanick wrote: There was some talk awhile back about adding support for AGP texturing in the Radeon driver. Whatever happened with that? I've actually got an implementation of AGP texturing for the Radeon that seems to work. I've also got

Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon AGP?

2002-03-20 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:44:22PM +, Keith Whitwell wrote: Michael also implemented agp support for radeon with a similar simplistic strategy, but ran into some issues looking at tcl and/or mesa-4-0. I think these turned out to be artefacts rather than anything serious. In any case I

Re: [Dri-devel] assimilate Glide into tdfx_dri ?

2002-02-24 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 10:32:43AM +0100, Jacek Pop³awski wrote: Are there any projects to assimilate Glide, i.e. to put Glide source code in tdfx driver? Are there any problems (maybe license?) ? How much performance could be gain this way? As I recall the license really isn't a problem. The

Re: [Dri-devel] DRI packages progress notice

2002-02-22 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:54:22PM +, José Fonseca wrote: But on a daily basis!? At least this was the initial plan.. I was thinking in using a script that made some kind of rotation eliminating old releases, only adding a snapshot when there were differences, etc... This can be done

Re: [Dri-devel] Complain and request for Mach64 binaries a la Gatos

2002-02-18 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 06:50:36PM -0800, Gareth Hughes wrote: Sergey V. Udaltsov wrote: Hello all Just tried to build mach64 branch. Got an error: make[4]: Entering directory `/db2/xfree/xc/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/sis' make[4]: *** No rule to make target

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: GL testing Re: [Xpert]problem with ati and mandrake 8.1

2002-02-03 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 08:00:35PM +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: I'm fairly sure that there is an OpenGL test suite; although I doubt that it is freely available. Should XFree86 (or

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 02:05:42PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: Regardless of the way it is merged the driver major version will need to be bumped. GATOS drivers does this but only minor - as I did not want to upload a mesa radeon driver just because of the version change. I'm afraid I

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [GATOS]Re: Bugfix for br0ken DMA on r128 and possibly radeonDMA functions

2002-01-30 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 03:15:53PM -0500, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: I completely agree with you.. but I did not give you details :)) What happens is that if you try to use older drm driver with GATOS 2d driver the GATOS driver will notice and complain. But if you use GATOS drm driver with

Re: [Dri-devel] FreeBSD SiS 630e/300 drm port: who's favorite drm implementation should i mindlessly copy?

2002-01-24 Thread Daryll Strauss
The kernel interfaces are highly dependent on the hardware they work with. different in the sense that they all have a common collection of fundamental activities and they all have a collection of disparate activities? or different in the sense that they have *no* common collection

Re: [Dri-devel] how does drm handle chipset specific features in a generalized way?

2002-01-23 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 12:55:28AM -0600, John Utz wrote: one last question before i knock off for the nite suppose one has two cards. the first, the FooBarTech VisiBlaster, has special hardware for optimizing the generation of very realistic clouds. the second, the BazGrafix

[Dri-devel] IRC Meeting

2002-01-21 Thread Daryll Strauss
Just to make everything clear: Starting at 5pm pacific (that's about one hour from now) On irc.openprojects.net channel #dri-devel We don't have anything formal planned. It'll probably be mostly a QA. Several of the developers should make it for at least some of the time. We can try to

Re: [Dri-devel] dri-devel mailing list archive

2002-01-19 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 11:51:33AM +, José Fonseca wrote: I've finished reading (diagonally of course) through the dri-devel mailing lists. It's interesting see 2 years of the DRI development flashing in your eyes in 8 hrs - it's like a novel in that you feel for the characters, i.e., the

Re: [Dri-devel] DRM/DRI porting guide?

2002-01-17 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 02:40:15AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, sorry, I just had to laugh. Not your fault, I admit that. You are as innocent as I used to be. Here's the deal bro: Now I'm going to turn this around a bit. You've already seen the answers from most of us. We're

Re: [Dri-devel] DRM/DRI porting guide?

2002-01-17 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 08:01:14PM +, David Johnson wrote: So, the question is how to we get that process going. As a suggestion, maybe a weekly IRC meeting would help where new developers can ask the experts, and each other, questions about DRI, XFree or 3D graphics. I am sure it

Re: [Dri-devel] agp: what if memory is fragmented?

2001-12-22 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 04:05:33PM -0800, Philip Brown wrote: I have a question about what if physical memory is fragmented? The AGIPIOC_ALLOC call returns a 'physical' address. This implies that the ALLOC is a single contiguous chunk of physical memory. Right? However, I cant imagine that

Re: [Dri-devel] CVS XFree and StarOffice 6.0

2001-10-27 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 02:46:50AM +0300, Papadakos Panagiotis wrote: There are problems with Xfree-4.1.0 and after.I don't know what,but if you want tou use Openoffice-Staroffice 6.0 you will have to work with Xfree-4.0.3. I'm running Open Office 638 on XFree 4.1 just fine. Without more

Re: [Dri-devel] my X-Kernel question

2001-10-22 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 05:48:56AM +0100, MichaelM wrote: Would you consider it a good idea to make DRI part of the source of a kernel? Direct 3d graphics supported from the boot sequence. I'm really concerned about your answer. There was a whole thread on the linux-kernel mailing list

Re: [Dri-devel] Simplified DRM backwards compatibility scheme

2001-10-15 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 10:14:33AM -0600, jhartmann wrote: If you have demenstrated that this is the case then we should remove the version system then I guess. I do want to voice my concerns though by writing out my argument fully though. Having a version system is safer. If something does

Re: [Dri-devel] Using drm (fwd)

2001-10-10 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 05:13:40PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, can anyone answer any of the questions below, or do I have to write drm for multimedia ? The DRM is an architecture for accessing hardware directly. What functions are implemented in any given kernel module is driven by

Re: [Dri-devel] tdfx, HP_occlusion_test

2001-10-10 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 02:15:42AM +0100, Fray Bentos wrote: Hi I submitted a bug report a few days ago concerning the HP_OCCLUSION_TEST extention to opengl on the tdfx driver. Im hopefully gonna fix it myself, but i was wondering if any one can verify that the extension works perfectly on

Re: [Dri-devel] NVidia Driver Source

2001-10-05 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 05:36:49PM +0200, Johannes Prix wrote: I read in the FAQ, that NVidia provide their own binary closed source drivers. Yet visiting the Nvidia homepage driver section I find, that there are not only binary drivers for several distributions, but also a source rpm and a

Re: [Dri-devel] Future plans for project (was: Progress of mesa-3.5 tree?)

2001-09-18 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 01:12:34PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: What are the odds of the project coming under the XFree86 umbrella? AFAIK the only reason that DRI was outside of XFRee86 was because it began at PI, and then when it moved to VA Linux they hosted it on Sourceforge (?). XFree86

Re: [Dri-devel] Future plans for project (was: Progress of mesa-3.5 tree?)

2001-09-18 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:35:33PM -0700, Frank Worsley wrote: 1. Who is going to take on the leadership position for the project? Although this is a community project we do need somebody in charge to act as a sort of project lead and contact person for people outside of the project.

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Discussion of donation driven DRI project.

2001-09-18 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 07:05:59PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: Daryll, are there dri project private lists I presume that could be extended to new developers similar to XFree86's developmental list? There aren't really any at this point. We discussed most things in public, and sometimes on

Re: [Dri-devel] What source for Rage Pro?

2001-09-18 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:29:03PM -0600, Felipe Contreras wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2001 14:41, Andreas Kloeckner wrote: I have the Rage Pro docs from ATI, I would now like to know *how* I can get the source of the driver that people are working on currently for this chip.

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Progress of mesa-3.5 tree? Update to Mesa-3.6/4.0

2001-09-15 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 07:08:31AM +0200, Dieter Nützel wrote: That's sad. But how the world goes. Daryll, what are you doing, next? Playing golf, riding motorcycles, and generally taking time off. I'm waiting to see what happens with the relocation, and I'm looking at other opportunities.

Re: [Dri-devel] VSA-100 chip specs

2001-09-11 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 10:04:14PM -0500, Steven Walter wrote: Can someone send a copy of the white papers/references for the 3dfx VSA-100/Napalm my way? Were they even ever released openly? I know that the said document for Avenger (Voodoo3) were, and they used to be availible on 3dfx's

Re: [Dri-devel] couple of questions about Glide3 ...

2001-06-30 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 06:29:13AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) is anyone still maintaining the Glide source/CVS ? Not really. 2) anyone noticed problems while compiling Glide3 for Voodoo5 with debug on? I get this error with the GL apps i tried (gears, Quake3, mine), except

[Dri-devel] [volodya@mindspring.com: [Xpert]Guide to debugging DRI installations]

2001-06-20 Thread Daryll Strauss
This might be useful to some of the folks here, so I thought I would pass it along. - |Daryll - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:41:18 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: [Dri-devel] kernel vs. X4.1.0 modules, per Frank Worsley

2001-06-18 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 02:48:32PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point - I have X4.1.0 and kernel 2.4.5, and no DRI with my Radeon under Linux. 2.4.5 gives me radeon.o in /lib/modules/blah X4.1.0 gives me a radeon_drv.o somewhere in /usr/X11R6/lib insmod /path/to/it/radeon_drv.o

Re: [Dri-devel] Rage128 and VIA KT133

2001-06-18 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 01:28:33PM -0700, Frank Worsley wrote: - Frankÿÿÿî/Ýz÷¥™¨¥Šx%ŠËC®/Ýz÷¥þX¬¶Ïì¢êÜyú+ïçzØm¶ŸÿþX¬¶Ïì¢êÜyú+ïçzßåŠËlþX¬¶)ߣ÷k‹÷^ Is that Unicode for Worsley? :-) - |Daryll

Re: [Dri-devel] SPAM

2001-06-13 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 12:34:22PM -0400, Jon Niehof wrote: Did anyone else get spam apparently harvested from this list? Yes, I goofed and approved a piece of spam that put in the moderation queue. Your addresses have not been picked up. I shouldn't go through the queue when I'm still

Re: DRI documentation ...was Re: [Dri-devel] Announcement

2001-06-08 Thread Daryll Strauss
The documentation makes a good base and is mostly still correct. The problem is that this stuff is growing very quickly. For example, we've come up with fairly standardized ways of writing a device driver. From an architectural point of view it's still just a device driver, but from an

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Re: Re: Announcement

2001-06-07 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 06:21:38PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: Yep. I think any serious project out there works the same way also, at least all the Sourceforge projects do. With XFree86 specifically I don't even know who all has CVS write priveledge. Do just the core developers have write

Re: [Dri-devel] Right thing to do with 4.1.0?

2001-06-03 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 01:56:21PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: I am not clear about the state of the DRI tree with regard to the new XFree86 release. I updated my CVS tree and was surprised to find that only a few minor changes had been made since my last update on May 21. Does that

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Glide + XFree86

2001-06-02 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 02:29:21AM +, Andrew Richardson wrote: What is exactly involved with this? Is it basically rolling glide functions into the tdfx driver code? If so that's easy, right? And how does things like libtexus (?) fit in to this? Although I can't promise anything I can try

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Radeon on Irongate: DRI locks up machine instantly

2001-05-29 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 02:20:01PM +0100, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote: Hi, On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 02:00:33PM +0100, Philip Willoughby wrote: I'm using VIA Irongate too. Err, AMD make the irongate chipsets -- the 75x series. VIA don't -- they make the Apollo series Which have

Re: [Dri-devel] Calculations for required RAM for sane DRI configurations.

2001-05-22 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 08:23:21AM -0600, Brian Paul wrote: Then, you should have at least a couple megabytes left over for the X pixmap cache and for OpenGL textures. Please realize these are important and significant parts of the calculation. For example, in the tdfx driver you can be using

Re: [Dri-devel] Calculations for required RAM for sane DRI configurations.

2001-05-22 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 12:07:44PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: I will try to report things here in the future. My idea was by doing it in the config tool, i could gage how things should be constrained, and then patch X to avoid allowing combinations that are unuseable. Well as a practical

Re: [Dri-devel] v0.7 doesnt detect radeon ve

2001-05-20 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 10:22:14PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 07:45:31PM -0400, Norbert Veber wrote: Change the line in your XF86Config file from Driver ati to Driver radeon Does that make a difference ? Yep, works now. Thanks for

Re: [Dri-devel] [ANNOUNCE] v0.5 DRI release

2001-05-11 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 09:35:09PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: Daryll Strauss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, the SGI SI has all the man pages although not in their standard format. Since that does have a reasonable license I'll take a look at those and see if I can massage

Re: [Dri-devel] [ANNOUNCE] v0.5 DRI release

2001-05-10 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 09:59:17AM -0400, Allen Barnett wrote: I'm not sure if this package is intended for developers and on non-Debian systems, but I fearlessly tried it out on my RedHat 7.1 installation anyway. If I missed the point, please ignore the following. We have a bit of a problem

Re: [Dri-devel] G400 and blending

2001-05-04 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 08:19:44PM -0500, Andy Isaacson wrote: On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 01:32:07AM +1000, Gareth Hughes wrote: Adam K Kirchhoff wrote: Speaking of which, I've been thinking about ordering Tribes2 and was wondering if there are any issues that we should be aware of? Go

Re: [Dri-devel] CVSUp access?

2001-05-03 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 10:09:46AM -0400, David Dawes wrote: On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 02:48:10PM -0500, Andy Isaacson wrote: Does the DRI project offer CVSUp access? I'm collecting CVS trees in the interest of being able to do speedy local CVS operations, and CVSUp is the most efficient

Re: [Dri-devel] Linux Alpha Packages Online

2001-04-24 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:56:35PM +0100, Alan Hourihane wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 12:25:48PM +0100, Alan Hourihane wrote: I expect to have Alpha Linux packages online too, within the week. Alpha (compiled with -mcpu=ev5) Packages are now up too. -mcpu=ev56 would be a substantial

Re: [Dri-devel] Information request

2001-03-29 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 07:35:14PM +0530, Damarugendra M wrote: I would like to know if I could use DRI to implement an application which obtains HW accleration and runs without using X11. that is i want to run this app from the console. this app may be a game or whatever. it should not