RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Off the coast of Dover there's a sandbank called Goodwin Sands. It's a shifting and treacherous sandbank that lies just below the surface of the water and has claimed many shipwrecks over the years. Goodwin Sands only rises above the sea at a couple of very low spring tides each year. ONE ONE OF THESE OCCASIONS EACH YEAR, LOCALS GO AND PLAY AN ANNUAL CRICKET MATCH ON THE SANDS. Now THAT'S what I call REASONABLE for a hobby! Dave G0OIL Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:45 PM 5/10/2007, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: failing to meet any reasonable standard for acceptance - it should have never been added under any objective rule set. E, u, hold on a minute. Who, supposedly in his right mind, but NOT holding an amateur radio operators license would think that ANY DX-Pedition is reasonable? Who gets to define reasonable? As long as no laws are broken, and the participants act voluntarily, isn't reasonable anything we want to do? Some people jump out of airplanes, or off of high bridges with stretchy rubber tied to their ankles. I wouldn't do it, I think they are nuts, but they make their own rules, just like we make ours. Reasonable is a very subjective term. Personally, I don't think that BS7 should have been made a new entity, but, apparently a majority of those interpreting the DXCC rules thought it qualified. 73, Mike, W5UC age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
That is not cricket !!! hi rag la5he -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DAVE WHITE Sent: 11. mai 2007 10:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts) Off the coast of Dover there's a sandbank called Goodwin Sands. It's a shifting and treacherous sandbank that lies just below the surface of the water and has claimed many shipwrecks over the years. Goodwin Sands only rises above the sea at a couple of very low spring tides each year. ONE ONE OF THESE OCCASIONS EACH YEAR, LOCALS GO AND PLAY AN ANNUAL CRICKET MATCH ON THE SANDS. Now THAT'S what I call REASONABLE for a hobby! Dave G0OIL Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:45 PM 5/10/2007, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: failing to meet any reasonable standard for acceptance - it should have never been added under any objective rule set. E, u, hold on a minute. Who, supposedly in his right mind, but NOT holding an amateur radio operators license would think that ANY DX-Pedition is reasonable? Who gets to define reasonable? As long as no laws are broken, and the participants act voluntarily, isn't reasonable anything we want to do? Some people jump out of airplanes, or off of high bridges with stretchy rubber tied to their ankles. I wouldn't do it, I think they are nuts, but they make their own rules, just like we make ours. Reasonable is a very subjective term. Personally, I don't think that BS7 should have been made a new entity, but, apparently a majority of those interpreting the DXCC rules thought it qualified. 73, Mike, W5UC age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- Denne mail er blevet scannet for virus af TDC Mailfilter. -- Jeg bruker gratisversjonen av SPAMfighter. Den har inntil videre fjernet 1444 spamposter. Privatbrukere får SPAMfighter gratis! Prøv gratis SPAMfighter PRO her. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
On 5/10/2007 Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote: Why do you feel that each entity should have a permanent population? Why not start a seperate award for that instead? Because I feel the rest are silly - really. I got BS7 - I got Peter I, I got KP5 - I feel all 3 are silly. Just my 2 cents worth. I know it's tradition and all, but to me, I find it kinda weird. Heck - I don't think I've sent out a card in a year - I have the VU7 sitting here, and about 4-5 other all time new ones. I'm starting to think my first elmer (oh, 27 years ago, when I did NOT get ticket) was right - he hated the quick 59 qso, and actually liked to spend a few seconds talking to the DX In fact, I bet there already is one. Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- 73 de KG2V For the Children - RKBA! Darwin's Law of Carcinogens: Cancer cures smoking. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Charles, Understand the quick QSO deal..however, it isn't even possible for a rare country to come on for 3 weeks or less and rag chew with stations? Supply and demand doesn't permit that. Wanting to rag chew with DX stations is fine, but it can not be looked down upon if a DX station is attempting to QSO with as many as possible. I am happy you took the time to QSO with those stations listed below...THAT is why they go there. If your Elmer was the rag chewing type, nothing wrong with that...but that is just ONE flavor of ham radio..and there is enough going on with ham radio (and DXing) to allow everyone to be happy! 73 Jose - N4BAA Charles Gallo wrote: On 5/10/2007 Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote: Why do you feel that each entity should have a permanent population? Why not start a seperate award for that instead? Because I feel the rest are silly - really. I got BS7 - I got Peter I, I got KP5 - I feel all 3 are silly. Just my 2 cents worth. I know it's tradition and all, but to me, I find it kinda weird. Heck - I don't think I've sent out a card in a year - I have the VU7 sitting here, and about 4-5 other all time new ones. I'm starting to think my first elmer (oh, 27 years ago, when I did NOT get ticket) was right - he hated the quick 59 qso, and actually liked to spend a few seconds talking to the DX In fact, I bet there already is one. Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- 73 de KG2V For the Children - RKBA! Darwin's Law of Carcinogens: Cancer cures smoking. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Rag, But ARRL made it cricket! 73, Goran, 4N4AE (T98G) - Original Message - From: LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts) That is not cricket !!! hi rag la5he -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DAVE WHITE Sent: 11. mai 2007 10:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts) Off the coast of Dover there's a sandbank called Goodwin Sands. It's a shifting and treacherous sandbank that lies just below the surface of the water and has claimed many shipwrecks over the years. Goodwin Sands only rises above the sea at a couple of very low spring tides each year. ONE ONE OF THESE OCCASIONS EACH YEAR, LOCALS GO AND PLAY AN ANNUAL CRICKET MATCH ON THE SANDS. Now THAT'S what I call REASONABLE for a hobby! Dave G0OIL Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 03:45 PM 5/10/2007, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: failing to meet any reasonable standard for acceptance - it should have never been added under any objective rule set. E, u, hold on a minute. Who, supposedly in his right mind, but NOT holding an amateur radio operators license would think that ANY DX-Pedition is reasonable? Who gets to define reasonable? As long as no laws are broken, and the participants act voluntarily, isn't reasonable anything we want to do? Some people jump out of airplanes, or off of high bridges with stretchy rubber tied to their ankles. I wouldn't do it, I think they are nuts, but they make their own rules, just like we make ours. Reasonable is a very subjective term. Personally, I don't think that BS7 should have been made a new entity, but, apparently a majority of those interpreting the DXCC rules thought it qualified. 73, Mike, W5UC age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Denne mail er blevet scannet for virus af TDC Mailfilter. -- Jeg bruker gratisversjonen av SPAMfighter. Den har inntil videre fjernet 1444 spamposter. Privatbrukere får SPAMfighter gratis! Prøv gratis SPAMfighter PRO her. __ NOD32 2256 (20070510) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Barry wrote: For me, it's not a question of danger. It's a question of does it make any sense? Here we have a few rocks sticking out of the ocean and the only way to inhabit them is to build scaffolding. This is a stupid country. How is it different from Okino Torishima (aka Baldwin's folly?) Agreed ... where it s not possible to even set up a table for operating without first building a platform to create a level surface, that entity certainly fails any test of common sense. I cannot see how this is any different than Okino Torishma, Sealand - or granting country status to oil and gas EP platforms. BS7H should be removed from the DXCC list as failing to meet any reasonable standard for acceptance - it should have never been added under any objective rule set. 4u1un 4u1itu - both for obvious reasons. Otherwise add every embassy and American Indian casino. That's a little different - 4U1UN and 4U1ITU met objective criteria when accepted. The criteria (separate administration) was later deleted just to prevent turning DXCC into worked all embassies and reservations. Swains - a privately owned island becomes an instant country due to a rule change (brings up the frequently bantered topic of a few prominent DXers making countries.) Agreed ... again private islands and sanctuaries where public access is not permitted have no business being made countries. The same should be said of Palmyra now that it s privately held (The Nature Conservancy). 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:48 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts) For me, it's not a question of danger. It's a question of does it make any sense? Here we have a few rocks sticking out of the ocean and the only way to inhabit them is to build scaffolding. This is a stupid country. How is it different from Okino Torishima (aka Baldwin's folly?) Off the top of my head, there are other stupid countries, created by stupid rules. This is not meant to be all inclusive. I'm sure there are others: 4u1un 4u1itu - both for obvious reasons. Otherwise add every embassy and American Indian casino. Swains - a privately owned island becomes an instant country due to a rule change (brings up the frequently bantered topic of a few prominent DXers making countries.) When the stupid rule is corrected, the stupid countries should not remain on the list. To me, it doesn't matter if a country is removed or deleted. The all-time DXCC list is a showing of how old someone is, nothing more. 73, Barry, W2UP P.S. In case you're wondering, I have them all and didn't need BS7 (except on RTTY.) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Agreed ... where it s not possible to even set up a table for operating without first building a platform to create a level surface, that entity certainly fails any test of common sense. 3Y0X on Peter I. first had to set up tents before they set up tables so the ops wouldn't get buried in snow and freeze to death. Should we delete it too? Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Scarboro Reef meets the criterior because the rocks are above the water level at high tide. The deleted country that has the JD prefix was only above the water level at low tide. It was submerged at high tide. That is one of the rules that governs what is a country, not whether or not you can set up a table on the rock. Jim N4JA - Original Message - From: Joe Subich W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts) Barry wrote: For me, it's not a question of danger. It's a question of does it make any sense? Here we have a few rocks sticking out of the ocean and the only way to inhabit them is to build scaffolding. This is a stupid country. How is it different from Okino Torishima (aka Baldwin's folly?) Agreed ... where it s not possible to even set up a table for operating without first building a platform to create a level surface, that entity certainly fails any test of common sense. I cannot see how this is any different than Okino Torishma, Sealand - or granting country status to oil and gas EP platforms. BS7H should be removed from the DXCC list as failing to meet any reasonable standard for acceptance - it should have never been added under any objective rule set. 4u1un 4u1itu - both for obvious reasons. Otherwise add every embassy and American Indian casino. That's a little different - 4U1UN and 4U1ITU met objective criteria when accepted. The criteria (separate administration) was later deleted just to prevent turning DXCC into worked all embassies and reservations. Swains - a privately owned island becomes an instant country due to a rule change (brings up the frequently bantered topic of a few prominent DXers making countries.) Agreed ... again private islands and sanctuaries where public access is not permitted have no business being made countries. The same should be said of Palmyra now that it s privately held (The Nature Conservancy). 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:48 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts) For me, it's not a question of danger. It's a question of does it make any sense? Here we have a few rocks sticking out of the ocean and the only way to inhabit them is to build scaffolding. This is a stupid country. How is it different from Okino Torishima (aka Baldwin's folly?) Off the top of my head, there are other stupid countries, created by stupid rules. This is not meant to be all inclusive. I'm sure there are others: 4u1un 4u1itu - both for obvious reasons. Otherwise add every embassy and American Indian casino. Swains - a privately owned island becomes an instant country due to a rule change (brings up the frequently bantered topic of a few prominent DXers making countries.) When the stupid rule is corrected, the stupid countries should not remain on the list. To me, it doesn't matter if a country is removed or deleted. The all-time DXCC list is a showing of how old someone is, nothing more. 73, Barry, W2UP P.S. In case you're wondering, I have them all and didn't need BS7 (except on RTTY.) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/795 - Release Date: 5/9/2007 3:07 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Barry, Let's not forget that rules changes in the last few years, including but not limited to the DXCC 2000 rules rewrite, will prevent the equivalents of many of the stupid or questionable entities from ever coming into existance again. Until the next re-write or amendment, of course... and frankly, I was surprised at how quickly and quietly the rules change that allowed Swains in after all slipped through, but THAT is another story. The bottom line is that due to the grandfathering clause(s), we can't remove those entities that no longer meet the criteria due to a rules change, only those that no longer meet it due to a political or geographic change. (Want rid of BS7? Well... can you convince someone in the Chinese or Phillipine Navies to use them for target practice?). The current rules are stricter and clearer on what is and isn't an entity. So we should have no more cases of is it or isn't it, especially on the basis of one or more individual's personal beliefs, influences and biases. We're just going to have to grin and bear it on some of the old unusual ones! 73 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Barry Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:48 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts) For me, it's not a question of danger. It's a question of does it make any sense? Here we have a few rocks sticking out of the ocean and the only way to inhabit them is to build scaffolding. This is a stupid country. How is it different from Okino Torishima (aka Baldwin's folly?) Off the top of my head, there are other stupid countries, created by stupid rules. This is not meant to be all inclusive. I'm sure there are others: 4u1un 4u1itu - both for obvious reasons. Otherwise add every embassy and American Indian casino. Swains - a privately owned island becomes an instant country due to a rule change (brings up the frequently bantered topic of a few prominent DXers making countries.) When the stupid rule is corrected, the stupid countries should not remain on the list. To me, it doesn't matter if a country is removed or deleted. The all-time DXCC list is a showing of how old someone is, nothing more. 73, Barry, W2UP P.S. In case you're wondering, I have them all and didn't need BS7 (except on RTTY.) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Palmyra was always privately held. It's just held now by a nature preservation group instead of a family. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts) Barry wrote: For me, it's not a question of danger. It's a question of does it make any sense? Here we have a few rocks sticking out of the ocean and the only way to inhabit them is to build scaffolding. This is a stupid country. How is it different from Okino Torishima (aka Baldwin's folly?) Agreed ... where it s not possible to even set up a table for operating without first building a platform to create a level surface, that entity certainly fails any test of common sense. I cannot see how this is any different than Okino Torishma, Sealand - or granting country status to oil and gas EP platforms. BS7H should be removed from the DXCC list as failing to meet any reasonable standard for acceptance - it should have never been added under any objective rule set. 4u1un 4u1itu - both for obvious reasons. Otherwise add every embassy and American Indian casino. That's a little different - 4U1UN and 4U1ITU met objective criteria when accepted. The criteria (separate administration) was later deleted just to prevent turning DXCC into worked all embassies and reservations. Swains - a privately owned island becomes an instant country due to a rule change (brings up the frequently bantered topic of a few prominent DXers making countries.) Agreed ... again private islands and sanctuaries where public access is not permitted have no business being made countries. The same should be said of Palmyra now that it s privately held (The Nature Conservancy). 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:48 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts) For me, it's not a question of danger. It's a question of does it make any sense? Here we have a few rocks sticking out of the ocean and the only way to inhabit them is to build scaffolding. This is a stupid country. How is it different from Okino Torishima (aka Baldwin's folly?) Off the top of my head, there are other stupid countries, created by stupid rules. This is not meant to be all inclusive. I'm sure there are others: 4u1un 4u1itu - both for obvious reasons. Otherwise add every embassy and American Indian casino. Swains - a privately owned island becomes an instant country due to a rule change (brings up the frequently bantered topic of a few prominent DXers making countries.) When the stupid rule is corrected, the stupid countries should not remain on the list. To me, it doesn't matter if a country is removed or deleted. The all-time DXCC list is a showing of how old someone is, nothing more. 73, Barry, W2UP P.S. In case you're wondering, I have them all and didn't need BS7 (except on RTTY.) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Where it is not possible to set up an operating table and chair on the surface of the entity, it should not be an entity. Whether shelter is required is not the question - it seems I saw canopies for shade on BS7H. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Zimmerman N3OX Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:00 PM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts) Agreed ... where it s not possible to even set up a table for operating without first building a platform to create a level surface, that entity certainly fails any test of common sense. 3Y0X on Peter I. first had to set up tents before they set up tables so the ops wouldn't get buried in snow and freeze to death. Should we delete it too? Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
At 03:45 PM 5/10/2007, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: failing to meet any reasonable standard for acceptance - it should have never been added under any objective rule set. E, u, hold on a minute. Who, supposedly in his right mind, but NOT holding an amateur radio operators license would think that ANY DX-Pedition is reasonable? Who gets to define reasonable? As long as no laws are broken, and the participants act voluntarily, isn't reasonable anything we want to do? Some people jump out of airplanes, or off of high bridges with stretchy rubber tied to their ankles. I wouldn't do it, I think they are nuts, but they make their own rules, just like we make ours. Reasonable is a very subjective term. Personally, I don't think that BS7 should have been made a new entity, but, apparently a majority of those interpreting the DXCC rules thought it qualified. 73, Mike, W5UC age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Sounds like WorldRadio's Worked 100 Nations award. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Zimmerman N3OX Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:45 PM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts) Why do you feel that each entity should have a permanent population? Why not start a seperate award for that instead? In fact, I bet there already is one. Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Stupid countries (formerly BS7H thoughts)
Yep - it's the Worldradio Worked-100-Nations (W-100-N) award. The original award rules required that you not only work work stations in inhabited countries, but that you work citizens of those countries (not visitors). They were relaxed a bit so you can work a visitor who has a non-portable callsign in that country. E.g. A22MN or 7P8SR would count but not V5/W9SZ (just using that last as an example, I've never been there). It's an interesting award. It is not endorsable but you can apply for a specific band/mode in your application if you wish (all 40 CW or all 15 SSB etc.) You don't have to send cards in but you have to send the QSO information plus a statement signed by two other hams that they observed the cards for the necessary 100 countries confirmed. It isn't as easy as you'd think! 73, Zack W9SZ On Thu, 10 May 2007, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote: Why do you feel that each entity should have a permanent population? Why not start a seperate award for that instead? In fact, I bet there already is one. Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
