Barry, Let's not forget that rules changes in the last few years, including but not limited to the "DXCC 2000" rules rewrite, will prevent the equivalents of many of the "stupid" or questionable entities from ever coming into existance again. Until the next re-write or amendment, of course... and frankly, I was surprised at how quickly and quietly the rules change that allowed Swains in after all slipped through, but THAT is another story.
The bottom line is that due to the grandfathering clause(s), we can't remove those entities that no longer meet the criteria due to a rules change, only those that no longer meet it due to a political or geographic change. (Want rid of BS7? Well... can you convince someone in the Chinese or Phillipine Navies to use them for target practice?). The current rules are stricter and clearer on what is and isn't an entity. So we should have no more cases of "is it or isn't it," especially on the basis of one or more individual's personal beliefs, influences and biases. We're just going to have to grin and bear it on some of the old & unusual ones! 73 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Barry Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:48 AM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] "Stupid" countries" (formerly BS7H thoughts) For me, it's not a question of danger. It's a question of "does it make any sense?" Here we have a few rocks sticking out of the ocean and the only way to "inhabit" them is to build scaffolding. This is a stupid country. How is it different from Okino Torishima (aka Baldwin's folly?) Off the top of my head, there are other stupid countries, created by stupid rules. This is not meant to be all inclusive. I'm sure there are others: 4u1un & 4u1itu - both for obvious reasons. Otherwise add every embassy and American Indian casino. Swains - a privately owned island becomes an instant country due to a rule change (brings up the frequently bantered topic of a few prominent DXers "making" countries.) When the stupid rule is corrected, the stupid countries should not remain on the list. To me, it doesn't matter if a country is removed or deleted. The all-time DXCC list is a showing of how old someone is, nothing more. 73, Barry, W2UP P.S. In case you're wondering, I have them all and didn't need BS7 (except on RTTY.) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, email@example.com This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, firstname.lastname@example.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org