Palmyra was always privately held.  It's just held now by a nature
preservation group instead of a family.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Subich,
W4TV
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 4:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] "Stupid" countries" (formerly BS7H thoughts)



Barry wrote:

> For me, it's not a question of danger.  It's a question of
> "does it make any sense?"  Here we have a few rocks sticking
> out of the ocean and the only way to "inhabit" them is to
> build scaffolding.  This is a stupid country.  How is it
> different from Okino Torishima (aka Baldwin's folly?)

Agreed ... where it s not possible to even set up a table for
operating without first building a platform to create a level
surface, that entity certainly fails any test of common sense.
I cannot see how this is any different than Okino Torishma,
Sealand - or granting "country" status to oil and gas E&P
platforms.  BS7H should be removed from the DXCC list as
failing to meet any reasonable standard for acceptance - it
should have never been added under any objective rule set.

> 4u1un & 4u1itu - both for obvious reasons.  Otherwise add
> every embassy and American Indian casino.

That's a little different - 4U1UN and 4U1ITU met objective
criteria when accepted.  The criteria ("separate administration")
was later deleted just to prevent turning DXCC into "worked all
embassies and reservations."

> Swains - a privately owned island becomes an instant country
> due to a rule change (brings up the frequently bantered topic
> of a few prominent DXers "making" countries.)

Agreed ... again private islands and sanctuaries where public
access is not permitted have no business being made countries.
The same should be said of Palmyra now that it s privately
held (The Nature Conservancy).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:48 AM
> To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
> Subject: [DX-CHAT] "Stupid" countries" (formerly BS7H thoughts)
>
>
> For me, it's not a question of danger.  It's a question of
> "does it make
> any sense?"  Here we have a few rocks sticking out of the
> ocean and the
> only way to "inhabit" them is to build scaffolding.  This is a stupid
> country.  How is it different from Okino Torishima (aka
> Baldwin's folly?)
>
> Off the top of my head, there are other stupid countries, created by
> stupid rules.  This is not meant to be all inclusive.  I'm sure there
> are others:
>
> 4u1un & 4u1itu - both for obvious reasons.  Otherwise add
> every embassy
> and American Indian casino.
> Swains - a privately owned island becomes an instant country due to a
> rule change (brings up the frequently bantered topic of a few
> prominent
> DXers "making" countries.)
>
> When the stupid rule is corrected, the stupid countries should not
> remain on the list.  To me, it doesn't matter if a country is
> removed or
> deleted.  The all-time DXCC list is a showing of how old someone is,
> nothing more.
>
> 73,
> Barry, W2UP
> P.S.  In case you're wondering, I have them all and didn't need BS7
> (except on RTTY.)
>
>
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