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> [mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Leslie M. Adams
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ldren than do
> sisters of heterosexuals.
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> > Tom Culliney
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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Leslie M. Adams
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:46 AM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality
Homosexuals are both
;
- Albert Einstein
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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Culliney, Thomas W - APHIS
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 8:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality
The
@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Matt Schuler
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:58 PM
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> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality
>
> Many of you seem to be implying that a "high" frequency of homosexuals in
> human populations mu
ve offense,
borderline or otherwise.
Tom Culliney
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al.
Tom Culliney
From: Jonathan Colburn [mailto:col...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:05 AM
To: Culliney, Thomas W - APHIS
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality
Hi Tom,
Respectfully, the Darwinian fitness sounds like inclusive fitness,
which
is often measured by rep
t; >
> > > Mitch Cruzan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/28/2013 7:46 AM, Culliney, Thomas W - APHIS wrote:
> > >
> > >> I was referring to strict homosexuality in humans. Granted, there
> > >> probably are cases in which children of a (perh
ness
> >> of a strict homosexual is, as a rule, zero. Helpers at the nest do forgo
> >> their own reproduction to help relatives raise offspring, but, as far
> as I
> >> know, there is no requirement for them to be homosexual.
> >>
> >> Tom Culliney
> &
o be
homosexual.
Tom Culliney
From: Jonathan Colburn [mailto:col...@gmail.com
<mailto:col...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:05 AM
To: Culliney, Thomas W - APHIS
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality
Journal of Sexual Medicine 2012.
>
> From: "Culliney, Thomas W - APHIS"
>To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
>Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 1:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality
>
>Not every trait need be for some purpo
gt; >> her inclusive fitness, but such cases would be rare. The Darwinian
> fitness
> >> of a strict homosexual is, as a rule, zero. Helpers at the nest do forgo
> >> their own reproduction to help relatives raise offspring, but, as far
> as I
> >> know, there is no re
t; probably are cases in which children of a (perhaps deceased) sibling or
>>> other close relative would be raised by a homosexual, thus raising his or
>>> her inclusive fitness, but such cases would be rare. The Darwinian fitness
>>> of a strict homosexual is, as a
es in which children of a (perhaps deceased) sibling or
>> >> other close relative would be raised by a homosexual, thus raising his
>> or
>> >> her inclusive fitness, but such cases would be rare. The Darwinian
>> fitness
>> >> of a strict homosexual is, as a r
e homosexual.
>>
>> Tom Culliney
>>
>> From: Jonathan Colburn [mailto:col...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:05 AM
>> To: Culliney, Thomas W - APHIS
>> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality
>>
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>&
Culliney
-Original Message-
From: Mitch Cruzan [mailto:cru...@pdx.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:31 PM
To: Culliney, Thomas W - APHIS
Cc: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality
This neglects that fact that homosexuality is not an accident of
, as far as I know, there is no requirement for
them to be homosexual.
Tom Culliney
From: Jonathan Colburn [mailto:col...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:05 AM
To: Culliney, Thomas W - APHIS
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality
Hi Tom,
Respectfully, the Darwinian
o their own
> reproduction to help relatives raise offspring, but, as far as I know, there
> is no requirement for them to be homosexual.
>
> Tom Culliney
>
> From: Jonathan Colburn [mailto:col...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:05 AM
> To: Culliney, Thomas
AM
To: Culliney, Thomas W - APHIS
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Exclusive homosexuality
Hi Tom,
Respectfully, the Darwinian fitness sounds like inclusive fitness, which is
often measured by reproductive success. However, reproductive success of a
homosexual is not always a good measure of their
Homosexuality may be maintained in different species for different
reasons. It's probable that the case for humans was different because
of our unique history. Fitness is not just based on individual
performance, but an individual may increase their fitness through their
relatives (termed 'kin
I note that the albatross article mentioned the words "natural" and "normal."
Homosexuality certainly is natural, as it occurs in nature, in animals from
groups ranging from arthropods to mammals (who knows what goes on in the plant
kingdom?). In all cases, there appears to be an adaptive reason
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