Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift-width/lo-hi

2020-03-31 Thread Keith Trinity
The K3 Utility help explains what gets EE INIT-ed. Glad it is working. Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 8:47 PM Martin Sole wrote: > Keith, > > Many thanks for the heads up. I did the gain calibration instinctively as > I did not know if it would be modified by the EE-Init

Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift-width/lo-hi

2020-03-31 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Not observed on my K3S, sn 10163 radio.  And nothing shows on my P3. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 3/30/2020 5:39 PM, Buck wrote: How about this one?  K3S CW mode. Tone at 14.053.953 with shift at 650 Hz, lox cut at .10  High cut at 1.20.  Same tone at 7.026.765 and 21.074.113 but weaker.  The tone is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift-width/lo-hi

2020-03-30 Thread Martin Sole
Keith, Many thanks for the heads up. I did the gain calibration instinctively as I did not know if it would be modified by the EE-Init or not, the D10 manual page 66 on parameter initialization does not state. All working well now and the radio is back to proper operation. Martin, HS0ZED

Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift-width/lo-hi

2020-03-30 Thread Buck
How about this one? K3S CW mode. Tone at 14.053.953 with shift at 650 Hz, lox cut at .10 High cut at 1.20. Same tone at 7.026.765 and 21.074.113 but weaker. The tone is strong enough to show a spike on the P3. Tone goes away if I move the shift off 650 Hz or change the low cut or high

Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift-width/lo-hi

2020-03-30 Thread Keith Trinity WE6R
Don't forget to do the TX gain cal, that gets wiped during EE INIT. Then save the config. **BUT; You might try loading your saved config, then read my notes; From my notes; *_Cannot toggle LEDs SHIFT LO CUT HI WIDTH TAPPING LOCKED in CW or DATA mode(s) + N/A_* _Fix;_Turn off “CW QRQ” in

Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift-width/lo-hi

2020-03-28 Thread Nr4c
64 F and overcast here in Williamsburg, Virginia right now. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Martin Sole wrote: > >  Bill, > > Many thanks, EE-Init seems to have done the trick, if for no other reason > than it set default settings and restored the normal

Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift-width/lo-hi

2020-03-28 Thread Martin Sole
Bill, Many thanks, EE-Init seems to have done the trick, if for no other reason than it set default settings and restored the normal operation. Loading my saved configuration, saved after the problem occurred, created the same problem, no HI-Lo in SSB only on Data and AM. I've now doe a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift-width/lo-hi

2020-03-28 Thread Nr4c
Look in manual for “EE_Init”. Is it set to Hi-Lo for SSB and Shift-Width for CW? If so, why change it? Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:51 AM, Martin Sole wrote: > > HI, > > So today having fun in WPX but playing with the K3 controls I am fairly sure > that I

Re: [Elecraft] Panadapter shift when filter switched in

2018-08-06 Thread Richard Ferch
Do you have any 5-pole roofing filters? In particular, is your wide filter a 5-pole 2.7 kHz filter or an 8-pole 2.8 kHz filter? The 5-pole filters have an offset, which is written on the filter and which is entered into the firmware with the CONFIG:FLx FRQ menu entry (or by using the K3 Utility).

Re: [Elecraft] Panadapter shift when filter switched in

2018-08-06 Thread tomb18
HiMany sdr packages do not present an accurate output based on mode and filters when fed from the if out. Hdsdr is one of them.73 tomva2fsq.com Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Dave Scarfe Date: 2018-08-05 11:15 PM (GMT-05:00) To:

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-05 Thread Wes Stewart
SOP on MS and EME over 30 years ago. On 7/5/2017 5:54 PM, Jim Brown wrote: ... There's another powerful way to prevent overload of your RX by your neighbor -- out here in W6, neighbors try to TX on the same cycle as our neighbors. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-05 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/5/2017 12:23 AM, Richard Lamont wrote: Thank you for your rigorous, quantified mathematical proof. Good engineering is not about math proofs, it's about big picture analysis of entire systems, understanding the limitations of each element, and concentrating on those elements that

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-05 Thread Richard Lamont
On 05/07/17 01:33, Jim Brown wrote: > Richard -- I'm a Fellow of the Audio Engineering Society, BSEE, retired, > worked in both audio and broadcasting. I'm VERY aware of distortion > products and the mechanisms that produce them. I also TAUGHT this stuff. > Your concerns are overblown. Thank you

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I fully agree with Jim, K9YC on the point of distortion. In fact there are two signal paths in which distortion will affect ones results. Certainly audio distortion on the TX side will affect the quality of ones transmitted signal and distortion on the receive will affect ones decode

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2017 04 Jul 19:03 -0500, Christopher Hoover wrote: > I use fake it mode for split on my K3S, data mode, 4.00 on bandwidth, 1.5 > for shift.Works great. > > The rig control for WSJT-X split is not reliable for me.I build from > tip of tree from the repo with either hamlib-3.1 or

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/4/2017 3:43 PM, Richard Lamont wrote: That's receive levels. I was talking about Tx distortion. The distortion I measured was for TX mode -- sound interface to radio. Richard -- I'm a Fellow of the Audio Engineering Society, BSEE, retired, worked in both audio and broadcasting. I'm VERY

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Christopher Hoover
I use fake it mode for split on my K3S, data mode, 4.00 on bandwidth, 1.5 for shift.Works great. The rig control for WSJT-X split is not reliable for me.I build from tip of tree from the repo with either hamlib-3.1 or hamlib git, so it is certainly possible I am seeing a regression that

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Richard Lamont
On 04/07/17 22:56, Jim Brown wrote: > Richard, > > Not nonsense at all. WSJT-X is VERY robust in the ability to reject > this sort of QRM. The screen grab below is a great example. I continue > to be amazed by the decoding in WSJT-X. About 10 days ago, W0OGH > accidentally got out of sync with

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Jim Brown
Richard, Not nonsense at all. WSJT-X is VERY robust in the ability to reject this sort of QRM. The screen grab below is a great example. I continue to be amazed by the decoding in WSJT-X. About 10 days ago, W0OGH accidentally got out of sync with JA7QVI, calling on his TX cycle, and on the

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Richard Lamont
On 04/07/17 19:38, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > One anomaly which I've just observed with my K3S. I did set the > software as suggested for SPLIT mode for WSJT-X / JT-65. The radio > followed as expected. I made a few contacts successfully with this > configuration. When I closed WSJT-X I

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Brian Waterworth
Actually, my experience is different. If I transmit at the edges of the bandpass, my signal is attenuated due to the bandpass of the output stage. I hope I am saying this correctly. This is why I use split to ensure that the signal I transmit engages the full power of the KX3. Now, I have read

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Richard Lamont
On 04/07/17 18:37, Jim Brown wrote: > The split mode in WSJT-X is simply a crutch for those who don't know (or > don't care) how to set audio levels so that distortion is not produced > in the audio chain. Sorry, but that's nonsense. With a strong signal, just 1% distortion will produce audio

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Tom-KQ5S
Thanks Joe. Mike, W9MDB, sent me a procedure using WSJTX to determine the cutoff points. I arrived at exactly what you are saying. I am using 1500 and find that I can copy JT9 out to 3000 and if a stronger signal out to about 3300. 73, Tom - KQ5S On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Joe Subich,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
I am using a width of 4 khz and using the radio in split mode. Width of 4 KHz is useless with a 2800 Hz SSB filter. You do not need (and can't use) more than 3000 - 3300 Hz. The default shift of 1500 (for DATA A) will provide relatively flat audio response from 300 Hz to 2800 Hz with Width

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
One anomaly which I've just observed with my K3S. I did set the software as suggested for SPLIT mode for WSJT-X / JT-65. The radio followed as expected. I made a few contacts successfully with this configuration. When I closed WSJT-X I noted it left the radio in SPLIT mode. I can just

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Tom-KQ5S
No argument but some folks, particularly those new to WSJTX, read the WSJTX user manual and follow it. Also split mode is "encouraged" on the WSJT group. Split Operation: Significant advantages result from using Split mode (separate VFOs for Rx and Tx) if your radio supports it. If it does not,

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Jim Brown
I agree. I use WSJT-X mostly on 6M during the summer and 160M during the winter. On 6M, I can't use the WSJT-X split mode, because it takes over my second VFO, preventing me from working back and forth from WSJT-X on one VFO (and RX) and CW on the low end of the band. The split mode in WSJT-X

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Tom-KQ5S
From the WSJTX users manual: Split Operation: Significant advantages result from using Split mode (separate VFOs for Rx and Tx) if your radio supports it. If it does not, WSJT-X can emulate such behavior. Either method will result in a cleaner transmitted signal, by keeping the Tx audio always in

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Wes Stewart
Since I am being dragged, kicking and screaming, into these imaginary QSO modes and have yet to allow my computer to talk to anyone else's computer on the air, perhaps I shouldn't comment, but I will anyway :-) I am receiving BTW, using WSJT-X in JT65. Depending on the tone(s), if the K3 is in

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Brian Waterworth
I have a KX3 and run with the same configuration as you list. Works perfectly and keeps my transmissions in the sweetspot. This wide filter setting lets me see JT65 and JT9 all at once and the split shifts me to the right spot to handle either. I have used the split and the fake-it settings

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Tom-KQ5S
Wow the message only took 24 hours to post. I am no expert but from what I have read it is best to select split operations in the WSJTX settings. By doing this you can work JT9 and JT65 at the same time since WSJTX will change the split frequency to insure you are within the passband. I keep my

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Shift Setting for WSJTX

2017-07-04 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Why split? The K3S should be in Data A mode and should switch to Data when you allow WSJT-X to connect. Typical bandwidth for receive is 2.4 kHz to 2.7 kHz.If you switch to JT-9 via the software then the radio should move up band 2 kHz. This is all configured in the Settings F2 menu

Re: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional

2016-06-22 Thread Nick Kennedy
, 2016 12:54 PM To: Nick Kennedy Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional Check to see if QRQ mode is set. It locks out the shift function. If there is a little plus sign on the right side of the display in CW mode then that's it. To turn it off, go

Re: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional

2016-06-22 Thread Vic Rosenthal
Check to see if QRQ mode is set. It locks out the shift function. If there is a little plus sign on the right side of the display in CW mode then that's it. To turn it off, go to the CONFIG menu, CW WEIGHT and tap one of the number keys. I don't recall which, but you can find it in the manual.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 'SHIFT' not functional

2016-06-22 Thread Clay Autery
While you are on a band/mode/etc where the shift pot isn't working... push and hold "shift", which is the "NORM" function which will reset filtering to default... This may fix it. Just my SWAG. On 6/22/2016 9:39 AM, Nick Kennedy wrote: > Hi All, > > My K3’s ‘SHIFT’ control no longer shifts.

Re: [Elecraft] SSB shift frequency

2016-02-02 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I am assuming that FC refers to the "FC" in the VFO B display and you are referencing filter center. There is no relationship between CW and SSB centers. Nor is there a relationship between which filter is selected for CW and for SSB. Bandwidth, filter and filter center are independently set and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift and lo/hi cut no longer working

2015-04-08 Thread Chris Hallinan
Yes, that was the issue. Thanks, Wayne and all! Still getting to know my new K3! 73, Chris - K1AY On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: Hi Chris, You probably turned on CW QRQ mode. See CONFIG:CW QRQ. 73, Wayne N6KR On Apr 3, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Chris

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SHIFT/WIDTH in DATA A mode

2015-04-05 Thread hb9brj
I was able to narrow down the problem. It is related to SYNC DATA (CONFIG:SYNC DT) which forces the same crystal filter to be used for both RX and TX. As long as SYNC DATA is OFF everything works as expected. If SYNC DATA is ON: (1) Toggling between SHIFT/WIDTH and LO/HI CUT is inhibited (2)

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SHIFT/WIDTH in DATA A mode

2015-04-05 Thread Wayne Burdick
SYNC DATA provides a very short turnaround time by disabling operations that would require switching the synthesizer frequency between receive and transmit. (This is analogous to CW QRQ mode.) If you have the new synth installed (KSYN3A), the delays will be much shorter even with SYNC DATA

Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift and lo/hi cut no longer working

2015-04-03 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Chris, You probably turned on CW QRQ mode. See CONFIG:CW QRQ. 73, Wayne N6KR On Apr 3, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Chris Hallinan challi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, Somehow I managed to get my K3 into some state where the shift function doesn't shift, and I'm unable to select the alternate

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shift and Width encoders sluggish

2015-03-13 Thread Gary Gregory
Bad decoders, Tin pins, audio/speaker issues, intermittant keypad responses, RIT encoder issue etc have rendered my early K3 pretty useless. Add a very expensive shipping cost to and from the factory prohibitive, mine has now been set aside and earmarked for scrap. Support at Elecraft is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shift and Width encoders sluggish

2015-03-13 Thread Roger D Johnson
The 4 encoders to the left of the main tuning knob all have a notchy feel to them whereas the RIT encoder feels smooth. Is this normal? Are the newest encoders notchy or smooth? Is the displayed frequency supposed to change when the RIT knob is turned even when RIT is off? 73, Roger

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shift and Width encoders sluggish

2015-03-13 Thread Wayne Burdick
Gary Gregory vk1zzg...@gmail.com wrote: ...a very expensive shipping cost to and from the factory…. Gary, We've been shipping the K3 since 2008. Things do wear out, sometimes, with products that get nearly continuous use (like K3s). We strive to locate and ship the best-quality parts we can

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shift and Width encoders sluggish

2015-03-13 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I think there was a bad batch of decoders or decoders that didn't perform as claimed. I am not sure mine have ever worked right. Unless you have two radios to compare to one would never know and there was never anything sent out that said hey if your encoders are acting wonky you might have

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shift and Width encoders sluggish

2015-03-11 Thread Chester Alderman
@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shift and Width encoders sluggish I am having the same issue with the PWR, Width, and Shift encoders as well... -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shift and Width encoders sluggish

2015-03-11 Thread David Cole
I am having the same issue with the PWR, Width, and Shift encoders as well... -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 (shift widt )

2015-02-27 Thread Wayne Burdick
Do you have CONFIG:CW QRQ = ON? QRQ mode disables certain features, including filter shifting. 73, Wayne N6KR On Feb 27, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Viggo Magnus Nilsen la9...@online.no wrote: Hello Elecraft user's Problem or not ?? I cant adjust the SHIFT WIDTH pssband tune in CW mode., it

Re: [Elecraft] Setting shift for different filters?

2012-02-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, Yes, the default is 1500 Hz. with a 2.8 kHz filter, that puts the low end at 200 Hz and the high end at 2900 Hz. AND that is why you should be using the Hi-Cut, Lo-Cut on SSB instead of Shift and Width. For good intelligibility, you need to have some content in the 300 Hz range, so

Re: [Elecraft] Setting shift for different filters?

2012-02-29 Thread David F. Reed
Don, thanks for the reply. 1. when I try using the Lo-Cut, it seems to be confined to 100 Hz increments, so, 150, 250, 350, but no 200, 300, or 100 available; is there a way to set that differently? 2. I can accomplish the same thing either way if I understand what is going on, but

Re: [Elecraft] Setting shift for different filters?

2012-02-29 Thread Sam Morgan
hold SHIFT knob til you see - NORM - if you turn the WIDTH knob to an odd number 2.5 2.7 2.9 3.1 etc tap SHIFT or WIDTH knob so the LOW and HI leds comes on if you turn the SHIFT or WIDTH knob you will see LO .05 .15 .25 etc now again hold SHIFT knob til you see - NORM - this time turn knob

Re: [Elecraft] Setting shift for different filters?

2012-02-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
David, OK, I have perhaps ignored the subtle points - in some cases, you will have 50 Hz rounding and in other cases, you will have 100 Hz rounding - that makes little difference. 50 Hz to a SSB low frequency response does not make much difference. n 2/29/2012 9:16 PM, David F. Reed wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] Setting shift for different filters?

2012-02-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, A 50 Hz difference will not make a significant difference in the received audio unless you have greater than average ears. You can preserve the setting using the Norm I and Norm2 settings, but for the most part, I just use the Lo-Cut and Hi-Cut knobs to dial in what is best for the

Re: [Elecraft] Setting shift for different filters?

2012-02-29 Thread David F. Reed
Thanks Sam, that solves that part of my question. 73 de Dave, W5SV On 2/29/12 8:48 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: hold SHIFT knob til you see- NORM - if you turn the WIDTH knob to an odd number 2.5 2.7 2.9 3.1 etc tap SHIFT or WIDTH knob so the LOW and HI leds comes on if you turn the SHIFT or

Re: [Elecraft] Setting shift for different filters?

2012-02-29 Thread David F. Reed
Don, thanks; my ears are worse than normal, not better, so not a problem, just ab observation. And I finally got it worked out how to use the Norm settings, so all is well now. It seems I am still learning my way around my K3, and will be for some time; it keeps amazing me at how versatile

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift/Width encoder pulse noise?

2009-12-07 Thread James Sarte
Odd... a few days have passed and not a single response to my query. I did some searching and noticed people have mentioned ticks or ticking when rotating the width knob, but I'm not sure if what I've described can be considered the same thing. Anyway, does anyone care to comment or should I

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift/Width encoder pulse noise?

2009-12-07 Thread Joe Planisky
Hi James, As far as the noise when you turn shift/width, yes, I hear it too. I assume it's the result of changing the DSP filter parameters. If done while it's processing a strong signal it seems there's bound to be some artifacts. I don't know if anything can be done to quiet them. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift/Width encoder pulse noise?

2009-12-07 Thread James Sarte
in the clear. 73 de James K2QI -Original Message- From: Joe Planisky [mailto:jp...@jeffnet.org] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:26 PM To: James Sarte Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift/Width encoder pulse noise? Hi James, As far as the noise when you turn shift/width, yes

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shift

2009-08-27 Thread Greg - AB7R
Hi Ken. You can save two unique filter setups using the NORM knob. 1. First, hold NORM to clear any shift to give you a good starting point. 2. Now set desired WIDTH and SHIFT the FC to where you want it. 3. Now do a LONG HOLD of the NORM knob till you see SAVE. Rotate the knob while you

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift is at *61, not where it was before

2009-07-31 Thread Brian Pepperdine
I have noticed what I think is small but inexplicable change in my K3 shift. Up until a few weeks ago (when I had some other odd issue with the sidetone going to zero hz, thus the crystal filter not seeming to work...) my shift centre frequency was 60. That is, that is where I think the

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift is at *61, not where it was before

2009-07-31 Thread Ken K3IU
You probably inadvertently set your PITCH to 610. Try resetting it to 600 and see if that solves your problem. 73, Ken K3IU Brian Pepperdine wrote: I have noticed what I think is small but inexplicable change in my K3 shift. Up until a few weeks ago (when I had some other odd issue with the

Re: [Elecraft] K3: shift granularity: suggestion

2009-01-28 Thread Ignacy
To me the current granularity with SHIFT/WIDTH (50 Hz) is fine. With LO/HI it is 100Hz, which is too high for LO. Also, LO often changes from 0.00 to 0.20 in one step, and taking it to 0.10 takes an extra step. Seems like a bug. Ignacy DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: Wayne said, We're planning

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift behaviour

2008-05-11 Thread Ken K3IU
I can not duplicate this on #202 with the latest firmware. It stops at FC=0.10 even if I keep rotating the knob anti-clockwise. 73, Ken K3IU Alexandr Kobranov wrote: Hello friends, want to know if i missed something: - when on CW mode turning SHIFT to low-end it is going to 0.00 and then

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift behaviour

2008-05-11 Thread Alexandr Kobranov
Ok Ken, thanks, will go through later - maybe there are some other params to check. And reload FW :-) Thanks for now, 73! L. -dst- K3/10 #727 Ken K3IU napsal(a): I can not duplicate this on #202 with the latest firmware. It stops at FC=0.10 even if I keep rotating the knob anti-clockwise.

Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shift behaviour

2008-05-11 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Alexandr Kobranov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... want to know if i missed something: - when on CW mode turning SHIFT to low-end it is going to 0.00 and then jump to 2.7 and radio is off No, you are not missing anything, L., I am getting exactly the same as you in CW mode

Re: [Elecraft] Frequency Shift

2007-11-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, A BFO shift of up to 20 Hz is to be expected. If you have 100 Hz shifts, then you need to run CAL PLL again - using Spectrogram if possible. Note that you should use a broadband noise source or band noise (with the preamp on) with no signals present. Attempting to set the BFOs with a

Re: [Elecraft] Frequency Shift

2007-11-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tom Hammond caught my 'too quick response' I should have typed CAL FIL below - not CAL PLL. Sorry all and thanks to Tom for noticing. 73, Don W3FPR Don Wilhelm wrote: Dave, A BFO shift of up to 20 Hz is to be expected. If you have 100 Hz shifts, then you need to run CAL PLL again - using

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-04-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Brett, Yes, the Kenwood TS-820 was a single conversion transceiver that implemented IF shift. To have IF shift in a single conversion receiver it is necessary to change both the VFO and BFO together in synch (and in the proper direction). I believe it could have been done in the K2

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-09 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Morning Dale, Passband Tuning can be incorporated into a single conversion receiver which uses a product detector. The method used in most commercial receivers for amateur use (putting aside DSP) is to have two IF filters in cascade along with mixers. By varying the injection frequencies to

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-09 Thread VR2BrettGraham
N7XY queried: One of the strengths of the K2 is its single-conversion design. That is, in part, responsible for the extremely good specifications the receiver enjoys. However, i.f. shift such as other rigs often feature require a multiple-conversion design with all the issues that come with

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-09 Thread Bob Nielsen
Brett, that quote was from N6WG, not me. 73, Bob, N7XY On Feb 9, 2007, at 3:57 PM, VR2BrettGraham wrote: N7XY queried: One of the strengths of the K2 is its single-conversion design. That is, in part, responsible for the extremely good specifications the receiver enjoys. However, i.f.

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift--Don't Forget CW-Rev.

2007-02-08 Thread Jeff
Jeff and gang, If you're working CW, don't forget about the CW-Reverse feature of the K2. This feature accomplishes the same thing as IF shift, although the degree of passband frequency shift isn't adjustable in real time. 73 72, Jeff WB5GWB Long Island, NY

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread David Wilburn
In the article from the contester on the Elecraft site, N6 something, he setup the SSB filters to act a bit like an IF shift. One filter to the left, one to the right, and one center. Thought that was interesting. David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW Jeff Kinzli wrote: Hey friends, how

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
David Wilburn wrote: In the article from the contester on the Elecraft site, N6 something, he setup the SSB filters to act a bit like an IF shift. One filter to the left, one to the right, and one center. Thought that was interesting.

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread David Wilburn
This article had a big impact on my choice of the rig. It was written from the user's point of view, and with extensive hands on experience. http://www.elecraft.com/TechNotes/ncjk2100.pdf David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: David Wilburn wrote: In the

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread Bob Tellefsen
Hi Ron One of the strengths of the K2 is its single-conversion design. That is, in part, responsible for the extremely good specifications the receiver enjoys. However, i.f. shift such as other rigs often feature require a multiple-conversion design with all the issues that come with additional

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
] To: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jeff Kinzli' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IF shift Hi Ron One of the strengths of the K2 is its single-conversion design. That is, in part, responsible for the extremely good

RE: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-08 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hi, Bob: Yes, I have learned about that one since posting my comment! I tend to forget that controllers today can do things that were not practical a few years ago. Stuart (I think it was) pointed out that Art Collins actually accomplished passband tuning by mechanically rotating the whole

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-07 Thread dave
What is the point of IF shift? What purpose does it serve? Can't you do the same thing (or nearly so) with RIT? My understanding of IF shift is that it allows you to move an interfering signal to the edge of the passband and attenuate it by doing so. Seems that nearly the same result can

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-07 Thread Fred Jensen
dave wrote: What is the point of IF shift? What purpose does it serve? Can't you do the same thing (or nearly so) with RIT? My understanding of IF shift is that it allows you to move an interfering signal to the edge of the passband and attenuate it by doing so. Seems that nearly the same

RE: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
One of the strengths of the K2 is its single-conversion design. That is, in part, responsible for the extremely good specifications the receiver enjoys. However, i.f. shift such as other rigs often feature require a multiple-conversion design with all the issues that come with additional mixers,

RE: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jeff, IF shift is practical in multiconversion receivers, but the K2 is a single conversion design (for fewer spurs, better dynamic range and better IMD). To implement IF shift in a single conversion receiver would mean changing the BFO in sync with the VFO - and that is not an easy feat. It

Re: [Elecraft] IF shift

2007-02-07 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IF shift What is the point of IF shift? What purpose does it serve? Can't you do the same thing (or nearly so) with RIT? My understanding of IF shift is that it allows you to move an interfering signal to the edge of the passband and attenuate it by doing so. Seems

Re: [Elecraft] I.F. shift thoughts

2006-08-09 Thread Nick Waterman
Wayne Burdick wrote: I think I need an understudy :) Leigh L Klotz, Jr. wrote: Now you've done it... Everyone form an orderly queue :-) -- Nosey Nick Waterman, G7RZQ, K2 #5209. use Std::Disclaimer;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please sponsor me! http://www.justgiving.com/noseynick SCSI: System

Re: [Elecraft] IF Shift, PB Tuning, and why neither completely eliminates QRM

2006-08-09 Thread Ken Alexander
--- wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These terms are often used interchangeably. It's like the terms biannual and semi-annual. One is supposed to mean every six months and the other every other year, but some dictionaries list them as synonyms, because you can make a case for

RE: [Elecraft] IF Shift vs. Passband Tuning?

2006-08-09 Thread jmeade
The first time I saw the term passband tuning was on the Collins 75A4 receiver. It shifted the BFO in one direction and the main PTO in the other direction. The two were linked together with a mechanical strap. The idea was that the pitch of the received signal would not change nor would the

Re: [Elecraft] I.F. shift thoughts

2006-08-09 Thread jmeade
The KX1 has a variable selectivity control. Narrowing up the bandpass is a nice thing to be able to do continuously. Would that be easier to implement than the IF Shift function? I would like that feature on the K2. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

Re: [Elecraft] IF Shift, PB Tuning, and why neither completely eliminates QRM

2006-08-09 Thread Darrell Bellerive
Could the SSB filter on the SSB Option board be made into a variable-passband filter rather than modifying the CW filter? On August 8, 2006 11:18 pm, wayne burdick wrote: You could also modify the K2's variable-passband CW filter to optimize for wide bandwidths (SSB/DATA) rather than narrow.

Re: [Elecraft] IF Shift, PB Tuning, and why neither completely eliminates QRM

2006-08-09 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
On Wednesday, August 09, 2006 at 7:18 AM Wayne Burdick wrote: A much better approach to the Filter Shifing problem would be to actually *narrow* the first crystal filter, protecting all subsequent stages. --- May I second

Re: [Elecraft] I.F. shift thoughts

2006-08-08 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Now you've done it... On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 7:47 pm, wayne burdick wrote: I think I need an understudy :) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub

RE: [Elecraft] IF Shift vs. Passband Tuning?

2006-08-08 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jeff, As far as I know, IF shift and Passbasnd Tuning are the same thing - just different names for the advertizing hype folks to enjoy. The major benefit of Passband tuning is that an interfering signal can be moved off the edge of that reciever passband without changing the pitch of the

RE: [Elecraft] Frequency shift in old K2

2006-06-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tim, That certainly sounds like a bad solder connection or an unsoldered one to me. Look in the BFO area first if it effects the filter passband, otherwise the VCO area is another possible candidate for suspicion. Yes, even in something that has been working for almost 6 years, an unsoldered