Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-16 Thread lstavenhagen
I wouldn't mind a link to a manual as well. I'm still trying to determine, like, what the panadapter actually does 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/OT-Antenna-Tuners-one-more-reason-tp4905802p4912544.html Sent from the [HAM] mailing list archive at

Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-16 Thread Ted Roycraft
LS, There are some good videos on youtube that show different panadapters in action and should give you an idea of their capabilities. To get you started, look at ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Fom1QwNa4feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Fom1QwNa4feature=related You can

Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-16 Thread lstavenhagen
Yes, I'm familiar with these. My question is partly rhetorical - I'm mainly curious about the particular capabilities of the P3 in comparison (i.e. I don't see a keyboard or mouse hookup, etc) 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
LS, It certainly will *not* be posted until after Visalia. Eric and crew are getting things ready to go right now, so hold the questions until next week if you want valid answers from those in the know. Actually, I don't know if the manual is ready yet at all, Perhaps Alan or Ron will

Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
LS, The cursor only has to move in one dimension (horizontally across the screen), so there is no mouse to deal with - that function is on a knob - turn it and the cursor moves across the screen - click it to QSY. There are 4 buttons along the bottom which provide 8 additional PF keys for the

Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-16 Thread lstavenhagen
Well, personally I'm not going to pester elecraft about it because my actual interest in it is fairly low. So I'd prefer to just read the manual and not hassle anyone about it. I'm still a bit of a Luddite about this particular direction in rigs as these seem to me a little like reaching around

Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
The P3 is no computer required. Just like the K3, a computer is only required to load the firmware. Yes, there are some who feel a computer can enhance operation, but it certainly is not a requirement - no drivers to load at all, just the Utility program to run if you want to load firmware.

Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-16 Thread lstavenhagen
Ok, that's kind of the impression I got by looking at the pics. Tho, the things I most need a computer to do are exactly the things I most wish I didn't have to use a computer to do, such as transmit CW and use the digital modes (tho W7AY's cocoamodem is fantastic and DL2RUM's RUMlog does

[Elecraft] New K3

2010-04-16 Thread Dennis Haarsager
After several years of HF inactivity, I unboxed my new K3 last night in my 2nd floor home office in Falls Church, VA. In the back of my car I found an 8 or 9 foot piece of stranded ground wire from an electric fence project. I straightened it out as best I could, though there was still some

[Elecraft] RES: [K3] K3DSPUPGD

2010-04-16 Thread py5eg
Hi Folks I just installed a K3DSPUGD in one of my 3 K3s and World like to share information with the users of this upgrade. If somebody already made comparative tests and made some different configuration I kindly ask to contact me by e-mail Best regards Osm PY5EG

Re: [Elecraft] Ten Tec never sounded so good!

2010-04-16 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hi John, There is a real risk IMHO that the Regulators, in Region 1 anyway, will act and impose tighter requirements on Amateur Tx IMD levels ( and spurii) if we hams do not win this battle - and push for *much* cleaner transmitters. The Regulators by and large are not really concerned if we

Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-16 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:38:38 -0400 From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com What I have gleaned so far is that the detection is done digitally, making it unlike analog panadapters we have seen so far - LP-Pan and SoftRock and others which use I-Q signals at baseband for

[Elecraft] K3 P3 video

2010-04-16 Thread Gary, W7TEA
Been searching for the video of Wayne's demonstration of the P3 and cannot find it. I remember seeing it a month or so ago but can't find a link now. Can someone help please? tnx, Gary W7TEA - 73, Gary W7TEA K3 #1001 -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3

2010-04-16 Thread W4CCS
Did we get this completed ?? _*We're just completing building the complete P3 web page now and will have more info up later today. 73, Eric WA6HHQ*_ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill NY9H

Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3

2010-04-16 Thread Grant Youngman
Why not just check the website ... if it isn't there yet it isn't done. If it is, it is. Maybe we could stand to breathe deeply and then find something else to agonize over for a day or two :-) Grant/NQ5T Did we get this completed ?? _*We're just completing building the complete P3

[Elecraft] P3

2010-04-16 Thread Richard Thorpe
Please Elecraft gurus make a black box version of the P3 that will connect to a computer, it could be less expensive and obviously take up less desk space. In my opinion the latest pictures of the P3 are very unappealing. In my application it would have to be placed on top of my K3

[Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-16 Thread Ken Kopp
Hello from Visalia, where the doors haven't opened yet. Of course the P3 is waiting for the crowd to gather in front of the Elecraft booth. Rose has already measured it for a cover. (:-) Of perhaps as much interest is the new KPA500 amplifier that's just appeared on the table. All I can tell

Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-16 Thread Bruce Beford
Ken Kopp wrote: Hello from Visalia, where the doors haven't opened yet. Of perhaps as much interest is the new KPA500 amplifier that's just appeared on the table. All I can tell you is that it's somewhat weighty and has a switching supply built into the cabinet. The cabinet is the same

Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-16 Thread lstavenhagen
Wow... too bad I don't have an antenna I could use 500W with hi hi 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/News-from-Visalia-tp4914396p4914813.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Elecraft] Re:KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Roger Dallimore
Fantastic news! Can't wait to find out more. 73 Roger MW0IDX K3 #191 K2 #2724 KX1 #416 KPA500 #??? Of perhaps as much interest is the new KPA500 amplifier that's just appeared on the table. All I can tell you is that it's somewhat weighty and has a switching supply built into the

Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-16 Thread Bill W4ZV
Bruce Beford-2 wrote: Man, I love it when there is an opening. Notice how Wayne ruled out very specific power levels. My money is on the 400-500W class amp in the same sized box as the K3. Old news. KPA500 was leaked by Eric on 24 November in this accidental post:

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Grant Youngman
That is VERY good news! Grant/NQ5T On Apr 16, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Roger Dallimore wrote: Fantastic news! Can't wait to find out more. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Bill NY9H
okay any just where is the youtube of the kpa500 amp ? it's been more than three minutes , so somebody is holding back :) bill __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-16 Thread Bruce Beford
Bill, W4ZV wrote: Old news. KPA500 was leaked by Eric on 24 November in this accidental post: http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg86032.html True. An incorrectly addressed reply led to that little slip, then a couple months later a mention of something new in a box the

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread ab2tc
Assuming this is a solid state amp that can be powered by 120V (not 220V), I am extremely interested, too. This is just the amount of power boost I could sometimes use and it will not destroy my present switches and tuners (hopefully). AB2TC - KNut Grant Youngman wrote: That is VERY good

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I'm intrigued, obviously we'd look for 220v over here, but why not 120v in US? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary

Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-16 Thread Jay Sissom
Isn't this the black box version? :) http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Richard Thorpe kis...@earthlink.net wrote: Please Elecraft gurus make a black box version of the P3 that will connect to a computer, it could be less expensive and obviously take up

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
David, Because not all have hamshacks that are wired for 220 volts. If the space was not wired specifically for hamshack use, there is likely to be only 120 volt receptacles available. Up to 1000 watts draw (500 watts with 50% efficiency) on a normal 120 volt 15 amp circuit is practical,

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Gary Gregory
All, One would assume ( there's that word again) it would be jumpered for 120/240VAC as Elecraft sell worldwide. I would also think it will be built around MRF-150 FET's? IMD numbers should be good also. Gary VK4FD On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] RES: [K3] K3DSPUPGD

2010-04-16 Thread John W2XS
My DSP upgrade arrived yesterday and I swapped out the boards today. Thanks to the Elecraft team for the clear instructions. The swap took less than an hour and there were no problems. I did not do any kind of detailed testing before and after. The LPF makes an improvement, just like the one in

[Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Paul Christensen
I would also think it will be built around MRF-150 FET's? Four years ago, the prototype KPA800 used eight APT ARF 463 transistors (four per RF board). Each plug-in board would be field serviceable. The prototype KPA1500 in effect doubled the number of boards and transistors.

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
that was my point, AB2TC is in the US - wouldn't you all have 120v? 99% of dwellings here have the standard 220v, very few have 3 phase 440v and then only for some specialist equipment. confused 73 de M0XDF -- They know enough who know how to learn. -Henry Adams (1838-1918) On 16 Apr 2010, at

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread juergen
Hi Gary MRF150's would be great, maybe the newer more rugged VRF150's? I wonder if the AMP has a low drive switch for the 10 watt K3? If does, this will make it a good option for those running small QRP radios like the FT817. A KPA500 would be preferable to running a garbage CB amp like many

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread John Harper
I guess the next sensible kit from E would be a 500 watt capable autotuner. John Harper AE5X http://www.ae5x.com/blog __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-16 Thread lstavenhagen
Oh also, if someone's there, ask what kind of kit it'll be. I.e. a no-solder kit a-la the K3 or a full DIY-in-anger with the soldering gun, etc... 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/News-from-Visalia-tp4914396p4915375.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Rick Commo
One would assume ( there's that word again) it would be jumpered for 120/240VAC as Elecraft sell worldwide. Unless they do what I am seeing more and more of in equipment that comes into my (work) lab. Switching supplies that handle 120-240V and 50/60Hz with nothing to change. -rick, K7LOG

Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-16 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Exactly. The point of the P3 is to *get away from* using a PC. It is made to go next to the K3. That means I can take with me to and not have to drag a PC along, or install a bunch of stuff on someone else's PC to use the spectrum display. Believe that was the point. If one doesn't want a

Re: [Elecraft] Ten Tec never sounded so good!

2010-04-16 Thread juergen
Hi Geoff Lets hope the regulators do act. As you say anyone who needs convincing just needs to tune the 40 meter band. Now that we have SDR receivers the mess is plain as daylight. Most of the objections to out of band emissions assume that these regulations are very onerous, they are not.

[Elecraft] KPA500 - Modular and Upgradable..?

2010-04-16 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
...a couple of questions. 1) $/Watt? 2) Modular up to 2X power (or more)? Commentary: Elecraft and Owners could benefit from an amp that is available as a K3-sized enclosure, complete with a power supply, RF deck and user interface. A 2nd, same-sized, but simpler enclosure with a power supply

Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-16 Thread Phil Hystad
[on soapbox] Let me increase the noise level by also preferring the no need for a PC P3. I would like most of my ham radio operations to be PC free. Especially PC free as I prefer my Apple Macs but I am not making a statement about Mac versus PC. I would say the same, I want Mac free

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Mike Harris
Crazy, The things existance has just been hinted at and without any detailed knowledge of it, it is being redesigned by the list. Regards, Mike VP8NO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jay, I have a gray box version - a Clifton Labs Z1 buffer and a Softrock 6.2 with audio isolation transformers mounted in an EC2 enclosure (yes, there is other stuff in that enclosure too). While it is a god system, judging from the photos of the P3 in action, the resolution of the P3 is

Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-16 Thread Brett Howard
Also it should be noted that the P3 is going to bring about a whole new realm of possibilities in the way of K3 UI enhancement. Such as more decode area for digital modes, better menu visibility and what not... ~Brett On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Joe Planisky
Nah. It'll be 500 2N's. Wayne had a bunch left over from some QRP projects and had to find a way to get rid of them. :-) 33-1/3 -- Joe KB8AP On Apr 16, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: I would also think it will be built around MRF-150 FET's? Four years ago, the

Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-16 Thread Doug Turnbull
Phil, I agree with your desire to keep my K3 PC free. I do contest and use WinTest which is a great help but my normal log is paper and all contest logs are printed out before placing them in a binder. A good friend of mine almost gave up the hobby because he could no longer access his HDD

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Starting up another unconfirmed rumor mill are we, or did I miss some official statement? 73, Guy On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:53 PM, John Harper j...@ae5x.com wrote: I guess the next sensible kit from E would be a 500 watt capable autotuner. John Harper AE5X http://www.ae5x.com/blog

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Mark Bayern
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Mike Harris mike.har...@cwimail.fk wrote: Crazy, The things existance has just been hinted at and without any detailed knowledge of it, it is being redesigned by the list. ... and this surprises you? why? Not only is this populated by a bunch of technically

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
No need for a tuner here, all the antennas are resonant - and it has to be that way so I can locate the antennas out of view from the house or when coming up the driveway (XYL says so), and in her eye, seeing an open wire or ladder line feeders is as bad or worse than antenna wires, so I run

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Fred Jensen
Joe Planisky wrote: Nah. It'll be 500 2N's. Wayne had a bunch left over from some QRP projects and had to find a way to get rid of them. :-) Thank you Joe, a breath of humor 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010 - www.cqp.org

[Elecraft] P3

2010-04-16 Thread eric norris
I cannot find anything on the P3 on the Elecraft web page, including a way to order.  I give up, where is it? Thanks, Eric WD6DBM Built All Elecraft __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-16 Thread K6LE
Not integrated in to the site yet I guess. I imagine it has been a crazy-busy week around there with Visalia this weekend. http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_p3.htm Rick K6LE On 4/16/2010, at 5:39 , eric norris wrote: I cannot find anything on the P3 on the Elecraft web page, including a way

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Richard Thorne
And a remote one at that... Rich - N5ZC On 4/16/2010 4:53 PM, John Harper wrote: I guess the next sensible kit from E would be a 500 watt capable autotuner. John Harper AE5X http://www.ae5x.com/blog __ Elecraft mailing

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
I'm headed out for dinner, so this is probably redundant, but I don't have time to read the mail queue. It weighs 10 kilos, does NOT have a built in tuner, but DOES have a built-in linear power supply good for all common mains specs. 73, doug Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:42:05 +0100 From:

[Elecraft] CM500

2010-04-16 Thread David Dunn
On the strength of the highly commended postings about the CM 500, I told a very good friend in Spain, Hal, EA5SX/ G3NMH and he has tried to find a source in USA to buy one. There are several of course. To date not one will ship to Spain (or out of USA) This seems most odd in this day

Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Joe, You missed the news ... just a push-pull 2N pair with liquid nitrogen cooling. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 7:05 PM