Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Gary Smith
Hello Dick, That could be done but I would have to manually turn the sub Rx on to do this, if I am to hear both. Hearing is not mandatory but it is an asset. And more, it is somewhat disconcerting to use P3 marker A to affect the K3's VFO B receiver and, P3 marker B with the K3s VFO A

[Elecraft] HRD new version question

2014-03-19 Thread Bill W2BLC
I am using HRD 5.xx for rig control. I would like to buy the new version 6.2 if it will do the following: Light the buttons for: ATU, ATU Tune, Notch, Notch Manual, Noise Blanker Provides sliders for: Manual Notch, Hi Cut, Lo Cut Any K3 users with the latest HRD to answer? I have asked before

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread bill conkling
No, not intuitive. MKR B is the VFO B frequency. Often one wants to listen on the B frequency. It may be on another band. SPLIT is a special case, not the norm. ...bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Gary Smith g...@ka1j.com wrote: Reading the P3 screen I see a station

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Gary Smith
Bill, Understood that some only use it that way, that is not my norm though. I chase DX and If I engage the magenta operation with the P3, its to be transmitting on a DX's listening frequency and in all those cases I will be split. Since 1979 I've never listened on two bands simultaneously

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Sam Morgan
just a thought how about creating a macro that does what you want...? On 3/19/2014 9:31 AM, Gary Smith wrote: Bill, Understood that some only use it that way, that is not my norm though. I chase DX and If I engage the magenta operation with the P3, its to be transmitting on a DX's

Re: [Elecraft] Computer won't connect with kx3

2014-03-19 Thread Bob N3MNT
Sorry was not clear. Should have said the KX3 defaulted to 4800 and if you have not reset it after you added the amp you need to reset to 38400. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Computer-won-t-connect-with-kx3-tp7585628p7585644.html Sent from the Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Peter Wollan
Another thought how about putting the magenta marker on the DX transmit frequency, and roam up with the A green main knob? And leave split off. Peter W0LLN On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com wrote: just a thought how about creating a macro that

Re: [Elecraft] HRD new version question

2014-03-19 Thread David Shoaf
The KX3 is 'officially' supported with HRD version 6.2, I believe. If you're running any of the 5.x releases, you're actually running as a K3 since the 2 command sets are so similar. Both K3 and KX3's button mapping has improved with 6.x, too. Check with the HRD folks on the details -

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Gary Smith
Hi Peter, There are several ways to do what for me are work-arounds but all require doing several things to accomplish what to me should be a one step operation, leave out a step I hear the cops yelling UP LID or worse only to see the QSY did not engage transmit and I was transmitting on the

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Gary Smith
Sam, No, I've never made a macro, no idea how I'd approach that to accomplish this. If it would work I'd be willing to try. What I was expecting as an built-in option though would be beneficial for anyone who operates as I do. Gary KA1J just a thought how about creating a macro that

Re: [Elecraft] Test not receiving posts

2014-03-19 Thread wa4ta
I have been having an issue with getting email also. I opened a ticket with Microsoft since I use hotmail.com. I'm not sure if the issue is Microsoft or QTH. (your live.com account is Microsoft also) The only list I am on that is bouncing is this one. 73 - Tom - wa4ta -- View this

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Vic Rosenthal K2VCO
This is what I've learned to do. The only problem is that once you enter this mode, if you want to fool with selectivity, APF, shift, etc. to hear the DX better, you must press BSET first. On 3/19/2014 6:42 AM, Peter Wollan wrote: Another thought how about putting the magenta marker on

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
What I was expecting as an built-in option though would be beneficial for anyone who operates as I do. That's not how it was designed to work. Enabling split anytime Marker B was tapped would be disruptive to most users. In the vast majority of cases setting/tapping Marker B says this is an

[Elecraft] Dual Watch on the KX3

2014-03-19 Thread Joe W2KJ
Howdy Fellow Elecrafters: I've been having a great time working W1AW/X on the bands using my KX3. It's amazing to break pileups using just 4W out of the KX3 to a W5GI antenna up only 32'. This would not have been as easy as it has been without the wonderful Dual Watch option on the KX3.

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Gary, I understand your need and as others have indicated it's not really how most folks use markers. My findings have been that the markers are not optimum for split DX chasing. When DX is operating split I immediately hold the SPLIT button and turn on the SUB RX and then spin the VFO B

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/19/2014 9:05 AM, k...@comcast.net wrote: I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50. My K3 was up to now for DX only use, but as I'm downsizing I would now like to it use for other types of operating, and would like to use macros for the first time to switch between the two mic's.

Re: [Elecraft] Dual Watch on the KX3

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Hystad
It seems that Elecraft should run one of their own contests. How about collecting W1AWs for each zone and state and for each Elecraft rig you own. For me, that would be the KX1, KX3, and K3. I just noticed, I should ad a '2' to that list. 73, phil, K7PEH P.S. Just picked up W1AW/4 TN on my

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
Jeff, Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? I unpackaged mine yesterday and have it working with the KX3 so I'm not expecting problems. Are you doing PTT or VOX, and if PTT how implemented? 73, Phil W7OX On 3/19/14, 9:05 AM, k...@comcast.net wrote: Does anyone have (or know where I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread kb2m
I'm using PTT Phil. If you would like I could send you all my mic related parms next time I'm at my winter home. 73 Jeff KB2M - Original Message - From: Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com To: k...@comcast.net, Elecraft Reflector Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:30:22 -

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Hystad
phil... I use the CM500 with the K3 plugged into the rear panel connection. I use a VOX when operating SSB but I also have a foot switch (bought at the local Guitar Store) plugged into the rear panel PTT. Works very nicely. 73, another phil, K7PEH On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Bennett
Phil - I've been using the CM500 on my K3 for a couple years - very nice. I have a six year old boy so that pretty much negates using VOX here while on SSB; I use PTT 100% of the time! I made up a small box that has a momentary push button switch and a toggle switch on it in parallel. I ran a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/19/2014 9:30 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote: Any tips/issues using the CM500 on the K3? I'm not Jeff, but it's real simple. Plug mic and phones into the rear panel connectors. Go into the menu, choose the rear panel mic, and turn on bias (tap 2 on the keypad, I think -- check the manual). That

[Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread kb2m
Does anyone have (or know where I can get)a set of macros they would share with me that will change a K3's mic input, along with TX eq, mic gain, comp, etc. I'm setting my K3 up for the first time for other then DX use with the CM500 headset. I'm going to be also using an 8 pin Kenwood MC-50.

[Elecraft] K2 - Resonate noise on audio

2014-03-19 Thread Jason V
I did a lot of testing to try and resolve and isolate the issue. So here are all the details and sorry in advance for being so verbose. Also very green to amateur radio. Got my ticket this year in January and the ink isn't even dry. So please bear with me. I purchased a QRP K2 (s/n: 00026,

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Stan Gibbs, KR7C
Gary, If you are willing to push a different button than MKRB, you can modify your DX split procedure by using the PF1 and PF2 buttons to execute a macro that puts turns the sub-receiver on, copies VFO settings from A to B to make sure they are on the same band and consistent, sets VFO B to be

Re: [Elecraft] PDF Version of Part 97

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Lowman
I doubt that the same bound publication from the ARRL is updated more than once a year. And, as Paul said, this one is free. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 3/19/2014 8:00 AM, Paul Kirley wrote: Those who want a PDF version of FCC regs (47 CFR 97) can get an annual update from the Government Printing

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
Thanks, Jim. That sounds like a great way to go. Phil w7ox On 3/19/14, 9:36 AM, Jim Bennett wrote: Phil - I've been using the CM500 on my K3 for a couple years - very nice. I have a six year old boy so that pretty much negates using VOX here while on SSB; I use PTT 100% of the time! I made

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
Jim, If using a headset, why the comments re speaker on-off for K3? One reason I bought the CM500 is the need to shut out sounds if doing SSB in a noisy environment. Normally in the shack I use the speakers and MC43 hand mike on K3 (so far) and a Sony earplug for CW (singular because one

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Resonate noise on audio

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
I'd check the KSB2. How well are the xtals grounded (solder joints and such)? Were any problems introduced while installing the crystals? etc. KSB2 is a pretty compact board so easy to introduce solder bridges and such. If you did mods to the K2 before adding the KPA100 did you use it QRP

[Elecraft] [OT] QST QST QST -- END OF THREAD

2014-03-19 Thread Gary W. Hvizdak
Regarding the uncharacteristically mean-spirited comments on the heels of my last post ... I never imagined my words would be twisted to imply meanings I never intended. In particular, I never discredited INRAD's 400 Hz filter. On the contrary, I pointed out that in the absence of a

Re: [Elecraft] PDF Version of Part 97

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Kane
On 3/19/2014 10:06 AM, Jim Lowman wrote: I doubt that the same bound publication from the ARRL is updated more than once a year. Fortunately, there aren't many rule revisions to Part 97 each year, so a yearly copy plus staying aware of the revisions as they happen may suffice for most hams.

[Elecraft] PDF Version of Part 97

2014-03-19 Thread Paul Kirley
Those who want a PDF version of FCC regs (47 CFR 97) can get an annual update from the Government Printing Office at http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/search/submitcitation.action?publication=CFR by searching for the Most Recent Title 47 Part 97. The result will be in a pop-up browser window, from which

Re: [Elecraft] HRD new version question

2014-03-19 Thread Bill W2BLC
Thanks for the general information. I did go to their site and could find nothing directly addressing my questions. What I am looking for, is someone actually using the latest version of HRD with a K3 that can answer my questions from experience. Thanks, Bill W2BLC K-Line

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Resonate noise on audio

2014-03-19 Thread Jason V
Thanks Phil. My wife is IPC-7711/7721 and had her inspect my work when it was complete, so pretty confident there. That and I rechecked it several times since the problem began. Removed the old crystals, cleaned up the vias with solderwick, re-installed using insulator pads, and soldered the

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Resonate noise on audio

2014-03-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
John, Those resonances appear to be similar to what I observe when the soundcard input is overdriven. See what happens if you reduce the audio into the soundcard. Did you replace the crystals on the RF board as well? If so, I hope you re-used the insulators under the crystals. They were

[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini F posted on elecraft website

2014-03-19 Thread VE3GNO Daniel
Hi All I've seen the K3/0-MINI-F  posted on Elecraft website  $699.95. Is just a pre-announcement? Any manuals pls and a guestimate of delivery    Tnx vy 73 de VE3GNO Daniel __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return

2014-03-19 Thread Ross Primrose
On 3/14/2014 5:33 AM, AD6XY wrote: Power cuts happen, for whatever reason and we can't have them bricking the radio, whatever it happens to be doing at the time. I am sure Elecraft have been working on it, probably late into the night. And THAT's the real problem. The K3 has been around long

Re: [Elecraft] K2 - Resonate noise on audio

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
It sounds like a bear, Jason. But I know you'll find it eventually, especially with input from Don W. and Co. I still think the SSB board is the likely culprit. But did you do any other mods at that time, like the A to B mod set? Good to look in those areas too, if you did. I've done *most*

Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini F posted on elecraft website

2014-03-19 Thread Wayne Burdick
There will be an announcement shortly. Wayne N6KR On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:35 AM, VE3GNO Daniel yo3...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All I've seen the K3/0-MINI-F posted on Elecraft website $699.95. Is just a pre-announcement? Any manuals pls and a guestimate of delivery.

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Ian White
Forgive me, but I don't understand why anyone calling in a pileup would ever wish to use the main RX to tune the pileup, while listening to the DX station on the 2nd RX. The K3's Main RX and 2nd RX are identical in performance; but they are not identical in ease of use. It always takes a few

Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini F posted on elecraft website

2014-03-19 Thread VE3GNO Daniel
Wow tnx. Tha's a goood news woohoo Vy73 de ve3gno Daniel Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

[Elecraft] No RX or TX on K3

2014-03-19 Thread K3RWN
I lost both TX and RX on my K3. The P3 was still showing received signals on the display. Then the TX and RX came back. Then I lost it again. Then it resolved itself again. I am running 4.83 FW. I had not TXmitted at all. I was just listening to 10m. I only know that lost TX because

Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return

2014-03-19 Thread Phil Wheeler
I suppose they could install a two-button push for power, as on the KX3, but that would bring other complaints, I reckon -- since some KX3 users don't like that approach -- or so I've read here. 73, Phil w7ox On 3/19/14, 11:12 AM, Ross Primrose wrote: On 3/14/2014 5:33 AM, AD6XY wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] HRD new version question

2014-03-19 Thread AA6VO
Hello Bill, I have HRD 6.2.3.234 current Public Beta and took a look at your questions: ATU button works (AUTO/BYPASS) but button does not light ATU Tune button works but no light Notch (AUTO/OFF) works but no light Notch-Manual button exists but does not allow for manual adjustment as far as I

[Elecraft] New Elecraft Product: K3/0-Mini Remote Front Panel

2014-03-19 Thread Wayne Burdick
As you may already know, any K3 can control another one at a remote location. This allows you to have the experience of operating the radio, while taking advantage of great station locations with larger antenna arrays and other features. Many K3 users operate this way exclusively, which is why

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product: K3/0-Mini Remote Front Panel

2014-03-19 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
We have updated the K3Remote page with the K3/0-mini. See: http://www.elecraft.com/K3-Remote/k3_remote.htm We are also adding more K3/0-Mini info to that page and it will be further updated in the next 15-30 minutes. The ordering information is located in the K3Remote and K3/0 section of our

Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return

2014-03-19 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Actually, we were totally unaware of the issue of powering off the K3 during a tune causing problems. We are trying to reproduce it on our K3s here so we can address it asap. 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ On Mar 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, Ross Primrose n...@n4rp.com wrote: On 3/14/2014 5:33

Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return

2014-03-19 Thread Kevin Stover
This is what happens when people only report these things to the mailing list instead of calling or emailing Elecraft support directly. On 3/19/2014 3:41 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: Actually, we were totally unaware of the issue of powering off the K3 during a tune causing

Re: [Elecraft] Updated FCC Regs

2014-03-19 Thread Dauer, Edward
Re Updated FCC Regs: Three suggestions for finding current FCC regulations: 1. There are free online law libraries that are pretty much current, since many are wired into the federal offices that issue the regs. Problem is, if you¹re not familiar with the CFR system, they can be hard to

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Fred Jensen
H ... that seems like a whole lot of effort to work an other wise user-friendly radio/panadapter, but to each his own. I can spot DX in a heartbeat from the pileup on the P3 and of course, just below the pile will be the UP Cops and [hopefully], the DX under them. I finally built a PF1

Re: [Elecraft] Updated FCC Regs

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Lowman
Thanks for the advice, Edward. Actually, I don't recall that Part 97 changes all that often. 73 de Jim - AD6CW On 3/19/2014 2:17 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote: Re Updated FCC Regs: Three suggestions for finding current FCC regulations: 1. There are free online law libraries that are pretty much

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Bill Conkling
Jeff, I watched this nthread for a while and saw a dozen or so responses, but no-one bothered to help you with a macro or two. It seems that everyone has opinions on what mic or jack and maybe which fingefr to use to press the ON. But, as for the macros, here goes. These are old, but you can

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Gary Smith
Hi Joe others who kindly replied, What I expect and what I see as efficient may be an abnormal action to another person but to me it is incredibly efficient and doing it otherwise is making work and is to me an abnormal action. What I want is engage split when I engage Magenta MKR 2, not to

[Elecraft] KAT 500

2014-03-19 Thread Robert Garceau
Just decided to hook up my KAT500. I'm having problems downloading the firmware updates. I hooked up the cable from the KAT500 to one of my USB ports on my computer. I can't get the KAT500 to talk to the computer. Could use some assistance here. Thanks, bob Bob Garceau, W1EQ

Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Miscellaneous Accessory Board Project

2014-03-19 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:46:19 -0700 Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net wrote: On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 17:50:11 -0700 Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net wrote: Would any of you K2 owners want to get together to order the PCB's for a quantity discount? Thanks, Tom KG7CFC Just a

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
How about the software engineers at Elecraft making that an option in the next firmware update. You don't like it, don't use it. You do like it, then you can use it. To me it makes all the sense in the world. I can think of a lot more important things for the software engineer (N1AL) on the

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Gary Smith
I have my priorities, you have yours. Out Gary KA1J How about the software engineers at Elecraft making that an option in the next firmware update. You don't like it, don't use it. You do like it, then you can use it. To me it makes all the sense in the world. I can think of a

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Vic Rosenthal K2VCO
One reason for doing this is so that you do not have to use SPLIT, which turns QRQ mode off. QRQ mode produces 'cleaner' QSK even at slower speeds, and is pretty much necessary over about 35 wpm to avoid badly malformed CW. This is one of the 'rough edges' of the K3 which has to do with the

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Stan Gibbs, KR7C
Gary Smith-2 wrote How about the software engineers at Elecraft making that an option in the next firmware update. You don't like it, don't use it. You do like it, then you can use it. To me it makes all the sense in the world. Gary, If you don't want the sub-receiver engaged, then take

Re: [Elecraft] HRD new version question

2014-03-19 Thread Bill W2BLC
Thank you very much for making those tests. They saved me the frustration of purchasing the new version of HRD, that would not have improved my operation. I only use HRD for rig control, so my best bet now is to keep using the 5.xx version that I already have set up. Bill W2BLC K-Line

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Jeff Griffin
Thanks Bill this is exactly what I was looking for, some place to start. I was wondering if anyone else has setup any macros for mic selection. Thanks 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: Bill Conkling [mailto:n...@widomaker.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 5:44 PM To:

[Elecraft] KX3 decoding CW with hand key

2014-03-19 Thread WA7SPY
I have had my KX3 for a month or so. Love the radio. I have recently decided to learn and start using a bug after using a paddle for many years. How do I decode my sending when key 1 is selected to Hand. When key 1 is set to dot tip it decodes my paddle just fine as I send. It does not decode

Re: [Elecraft] P3 marker B transmit freq.

2014-03-19 Thread Merv Schweigert
You can make a macro that toggles, my PF1 goes to split and up 5, sub receiver, hitting it again goes back to normal.. saves PF2 for another use. Merv K9FD/KH6 H ... that seems like a whole lot of effort to work an other wise user-friendly radio/panadapter, but to each his own. I can

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 decoding CW with hand key

2014-03-19 Thread Matt Zilmer
That's the way it is. The KX3 can decode its own paddle-generated CW. 73, matt W6NIA On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 17:28:24 -0700, you wrote: I have had my KX3 for a month or so. Love the radio. I have recently decided to learn and start using a bug after using a paddle for many years. How do I decode

[Elecraft] K2 Headphone jack switch failure?

2014-03-19 Thread Curt
My K2's speaker stopped working, headphones still work. This has happened twice since building my K1 because the switch inside the K1 jack is sawed in half by plugging and unplugging headphones. Does this same failure mode apply to the K2 headphone jack? 73, Curt KB5JO

Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2014-03-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bob, Have you selected the correct COM port in KAT500 Utility? I assume the usual USB to serial adapter - are the drivers loaded? That is almost automatic on Windows 7/8 or on the MAC OS, but other operating systems may require some additional attention. If you are unsure of the COM port, go

Re: [Elecraft] K2 Headphone jack switch failure?

2014-03-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Curt, Yes, the same thing applies. The little plastic lever inside the jack breaks leaving the switch in a position where either the speaker is active all the time, or more often that the speaker does not work because it is not engaged. Unfortunately, Elecraft has not been successful in

Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Miscellaneous Accessory Board Project

2014-03-19 Thread Brian Denley
Tom: Please add me to those interested if you order another batch. Brian Denley KB1VBF Sent from my iPad On Mar 19, 2014, at 5:59 PM, Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:46:19 -0700 Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net wrote: On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 17:50:11 -0700 Thomas

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Jim Brown
On 3/19/2014 10:35 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote: If using a headset, why the comments re speaker on-off for K3? Because I often have the radio on while I'm doing other things around the shack. And also because I operate CW casually, and because I work various digital modes that don't require me to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 macro's to switch mic's

2014-03-19 Thread Bill Conkling
No problem, Jeff. This combo is just that, a start. There are some gurus on the list that have written macros that only require one pf# key as they do some magic and self-modify themselves to toggle the setup. Maybe when they finish the discussion on one verses two mics or speakers +/-