The California QSO party is just 23 days away. I'm really looking forward to
the first real baptism of fire for my K3.
For information go to www.cqp.org http://www.cqp.org/ . If you are in
California, please Register-Your-County.
See you there. 73, Fred
I set up the K3 Rx sensitivity test (using 1 microvolt signal) according to
XG2 manual.
It seems to work in general except that the resulting MDS calculations seem
too low:
123 dBm on 80 meters,
132 dBm on 40 meters, and
130 dBm on 20 meters.
I am using the front headphone jack on the K3,
Lyle, KK7P responded to my question on where to find a suitable DMM:
If using the K3, use the internal RMS audio meter (tap DISP then rotate
until you see AFV)
Thanks Lyle. Great answer! Hidden treasures are always just in front of us.
And thanks to
Elecraft for another outstanding
Wayne, does the new firmware require any hardware mods? The reason for the
question is that
everything at this QTH is ready for the California QSO Party and I don't
want to risk getting inside
the K3.
Yes, I would appreciate the opportunity to help test the new firmware beta.
73, Fred
Jim Danehy wrote:
Then there are those who like to write emails to show others what they
know, not necessarily to assist others. I can readily see the difference
between the two.
Like you Jim, I've been a Ham for a very long time and I agree that you can
readily tell the difference between an
At the recent Santa Barbara Hamfest, Eric addressed a problem with the early
filters in the K3.
The frequency would change unexpectedly. Eventually the problem was solved
by cleaning.
It was found that particles left over from the crystal manufacturing were
modifying the freq.
Inrad is just
Rich and all, I don't use Vista, but have heard on more than one occasion
that signing onto Vista as
The Administrator allows certain file manipulation that Vista security
otherwise prevents.
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Wow, Alan, Eric and Wayne, This is a great suggestion for future k3/P3
software:
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I also like the idea of an initial offset for use with LP-PAN. When turning
on Split, the panadapter would then clearly show both passbands in a
predictable way. With A=B, one is hiding behind the other. With
Hector Padron wrote:
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My K3 behaved better than expected, I had no problem at all pulling out from
a very crowded band and close to the big guns weak stations with signals of
55 to 57,I used all the time my roofer of 2.1
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Like Hector I enjoy contesting. Due to CCR's, I'm limited
Phil, you pose some great questions. Here goes:
1. The one option I would not get is the high accuracy oscillator.but
that's just me.
2. As far as esoteric parts are concerned, Maybe Eric or Wayne should
answer that one.
I had an Orion 1 a couple of years back. But it did not
I installed the upgraded DSP board and it sounds great. I've come to expect
great results from Elecraft. And then there are guys like Gary at support,
who instill confidence in my ability to shape my rigs FW and hardware.
Thanks from an old analog engineer and Merry Christmas to all, Fred
Terry, the upgrade board did not come with any special instructions. I
installed mine by following the guidelines in the K3 Kit Assembly Manual. It
was a very easy mod. Of course, the same electrostatic discharge prevention
cautions apply (I.e. you need an ESD mat and wrist strap.)
Good luck
As I recall some of the discussions at the Santa Barbara Hamfest, a mouse
interface would greatly complicate the design of the P3. The standard
computer-to-mouse interface requires a software driver which is not trivial
to design and maintain (drivers are written in machine code for a specific
I listened for the UK net at 0900Z down here in southern California. All I
heard were a few weak W1 - W4's. Nothing from across the pond, not even a
peep. Did anyone in the US hear the net? Just curious.
73, Fred, AE6IC
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Martin, I have the 2.8 for transmit which I believe gives me the best
likelihood of being heard. I like low-power contesting and due to CCRs I
use a stealth mystery antenna.
I also have the 2.1, 1.8, 400 and 200Hz 8-pole filters. By far my favorites
are the 2.1 and 400Hz because of their
Jim K9YC wrote:
It should also be noted that while the K3 comes with multiband graphic RX
EQ, there are no bands above 5kHz.
This is an interesting point Jim. Human hearing in the 20 kHz range is not
unheard of. I wonder if the K3 design cuts this off above 5 kHz or if it
allows it to
Steve, congrats, you are now officially an OM! The ONE thing I'd like to add
about putting up ANY antenna.CAUTION. Power lines in the vicinity of your
home and your antenna are lethal. Please plan ahead and give yourself a wide
margin of safety. It's too easy to get in a hurry and loose sight of
Mike,
If you do any contesting or if you want to operate during a contest, roofing
filters are the way to go. As I get older the pumping noise from adjacent
signals has become ever more distracting. The rig I used for the California
QSO party was new and had a Collins 500Hz virtual roofing
Jay, you may want to consider doing one mod at a time. That way, if
something goes wrong you know exactly where to look. If you do all then you
may be looking for a needle in a haystack. 73, Fred, AE6IC
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David, I had a similar problem with the powerpole connector being too loose.
The problem was that my solder connection enlarged the contact to where it
would not push all the way into the plastic shell. You can tell if it is
properly seated by the way the contact clicks into place within the
Actually Gary, KPA-200 sounds like a good idea. I like contesting and prefer
low power. The problem is that different contests define low power as 100,
150 or 200 W. It would be nice to optimize low power for any given contest.
BTW, I wonder if the KAT3 would also need to be replaced. 73, Fred
Eric, the posts on this thread by Gary, Keith and me are positive with
regard to Elecraft, so please do not consider them as criticisms in any way.
I've been a Ham since 1957 and Elecraft is the best thing to happen since
807's. Thanks for a great reflector. 73, Fred
Steve Ward writes:
Seems to me the biggest issue would be (DC) power. Most of the rigs that
can do 200w internally seem to come with their own custom power supplies
that give 24 or 48 VDC. Running 200w on 13.8VDC requires a LOT of amperes
and is probably not practical.
I believe you are
Don, I had a similar problem when installing the k3DVR. Nothing tried made
any sense. So I de-installed the DVR and re-installed it and it worked! Good
luck, Fred, AE6IC
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Ah yes, specialization: where you learn more more about less less till
you know everything about nothing.
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Richard, your comment about Golden years was right on. Amen. At 73
rotations, I'm a little slower, my right hand has a bit of the palsy, and I
need a nap after lunch. But, I still love Ham radio. Fortunately, the great
people at Elecraft came along. The K3 is, hands down, the best rig I've ever
Greetings from the CCR capital of the world: California, where stealth
antennas are a way of life. The current discussion about how certain display
colors are more discernable than others begs a point: what if you don't what
to see it? Since 2003, I've used one inch electrical PVC pipe to make
Wayne, I have two questions concerning the upcoming panadaptor:
1. Will I need a KXV3, IF Out/Interface? If so, I'll take care of it
now to save time later.
2. Is the panadaptor likely to be available in time for the California
QSO contest (1st weekend of October)?
I'd be happy
I totally agree with you Paul. I've been a tinkerer since before I got my
Novice ticket. My 1st station was a home brew 2E26 final and a surplus
Command Set (1957.) Wow, Ham Radio has changed. It's a good thing too.
Another word for Finished is Dead.
73, Fred, AE6IC
Help. WriteLog ver. 10.70 will not create a Cabrillo file for Field Day. I
tried using both the Contest menu and the File export menu in WriteLog. Both
have Cabrillo grayed-out! Am I missing something?
Thanks, Fred, AE6IC
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Here is my panadaptor wish list: First, I've got all cables connected in
back of the K3 so hopefully there will be no cables running out the front.
Second, sufficient real-time bandwidth and screen width that makes it easy
to spot actual ham activity. In the past I've owned the Jupiter, Orion and
Fred wrote:
50WPM is fast enough for me.
20WPM is fast enough for me Fred. CU in October for the CQP.
73 (Wow, we must be the same age too. just kidding) Fred, AE6IC
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Jim: just one more comment: I have the 1.8, but it's a little too touchy for
fast tuning in contests for me. I went ahead and got the 2.1 for that
reason. Hope this helps. 73, Fred AE6IC
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Wayne Eric, tell the BBQ man to bring more food. I wasn't planning to go
but now that you are going to unveil the P3, I'll be there with bells on.
You should probably get a kickback from SBARC for doubling the attendees as
a result of this announcement. 73, Fred AE6IC
I've just about recovered from the trip from Oceanside, CA to SBARC and back
so now can post the results. 1st: Kudos to Alan, Eric, and Wayne for
successfully demonstrating a P3 prototype and Kudos also to SBARC for
picking up the pieces of the SW ARRL convention (that was going to be held
at
Eric Swartz wrote:
It would be hard to get something much larger into a matching enclosure.
Eric, have you considered placing some of the buttons on the top of the
enclosure near the front. This
would make room for a larger display size and the push down pressure would
also help hold the P3
There have been many very good suggestions for P3 options. For me it boils
down to simple use during normal operations.
Normal operations may be meeting friends, DXing, or contesting.
If you are meeting up with friends, someone may ask you to look at their
signal. You have lots of time to
Eric, in regard to your e-mail, am I correct in assuming that the price
increases will affect
the price of the recently upgraded KXV3A, and that the KXV3A will be
required to connect
the upcoming P3 to the K3?
73, Fred AE6IC
Excellent photos Bill; just the best yet. Hopefully the P3 will be shipping
in a little over a month. We're really looking forward to it.
73, Fred, AE6IC, K3 2241
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Pete N4RZ wrote : One thought that comes to mind - put a repair queue
length figure on the web-site and update it every day or two
The only problem with that Pete is that it would eat up resources that could
otherwise be used productively, thus slowing down actual work.
73, Fred, AE6iC, K3#2241
Eric, W3DQ wrote: I bought an early K3 (s/n 525). I believe I know which
mods were done (everything through September/October 2009), but I'm not sure
exactly sure of it, nor where the previous owner stopped, where I should
pick up and what is worth or not worth doing.
Eric, if the K3 does not
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Ah, the vagaries of propagation! I tuned in to check into the net but I
could barely hear net control deep in the noise, and few of the responding
stations. I live 80 miles west of one of the California stations that
checked in and 80 miles north of he other, but I might as well have been
Lu Romero wrote: I am still debating a P3... Do I even need the features of
a band scope? When I use Icoms, I hardly ever look at the scope, I use my
ears and that big knob in the center of the panel to find multipliers.
End snip
I agree. My previous 3 rigs were Jupiter, Orion (1) and then OMNI
Snip
Lucky Dog has a new K3 kit serial 4493.
I ordered it Friday, It was shipped Monday, and arrived at my QTH Wednesday.
Wow!
73 de
Jack / W7LD / Lucky Dog
End snip
Congratulations from Instant Coffee (AE6IC.) Hopefully I'll be getting a
P3 shortly.
73, Fred, K3 2241
Do or Do-not.
David Pratt said: If this Reflector is anything to go by, Bill, there are
lots of LIDs that own a K2 and/or a K3, etc.
Your comment was degrading to the people on this reflector. I earned my ham
ticket in 1951 and since then I've strived to improve my operating
capabilities and knowledge. One
Bill wrote: Why is everyone so keen to be at the head of the queue? Surely
it would be more sensible to wait until the inevitable teething problems
have been identified and overcome.
End snip
Waiting is not one of my strong suits. Actually I have been waiting since I
first saw the P3 at the
Eric and Wayne
Congrats on the successful launch of the P3. Ill bet the competition is
slapping their foreheads and kicking their derrières; OH NO
HERE THEY GO
AGAIN.
Can you give us a number for how many P3 orders came in during those first
hours, or is it confidential?
73, Fred, AE6IC,
For sale, assembled and working 2 tone generator:
Elecraft 2T-gen mini-module plus fabricated test leads.
1. RCA audio output lead to mini (mono) plug for mic input.
2. Toggle switch on long lead terminated with RCA female audio
connector for PTT.
$49 includes shipping in US.
If
Us little pistols with 500w and a
tribander at 40 feet rely on call timing.
Lu, if you're a little pistol with that set-up, I'm a Daisy Red Ryder!
Thanks for the helpful info from all who replied. A strong case for the 2nd
receiver...what I suspected anyway as it seems to offer both the
If you are a WriteLog user you may want to check out their new webpage look.
WriteLog has had some succession problems in coming up with the right people
to take over from the old guard. Hopefully they have succeeded and will once
again be able to grow the product. I proposed the upgrade below to
Felipe
If you are using external speakers with built-in audio amps, they can cause
this problem. I solved the problem by turning the speaker amp volume down to
less than ¼, and turning up the K3 audio to compensate.
73, Fred, AE6IC, K3 2241, P3 100
Do or Do-not. There is no 'Try'... ~ Yoda
I think Elecraft should give out P3 hats when they start taking P3 orders.
73, Fred AE6IC
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Hi Gary, I suspect David is correct. Elecraft is concentrating on getting
the K144XV out the door. Being a very small company, they must focus their
resources.
Everybody is getting antsy about the P3 (its' my 2009 Christmas present!) I
can't imagine waiting for the Dayton Hamfest to introduce
Hi Ian,
I listened for you at 0900Z (1:00 PST) at 3658 kHz. All I heard was some
very faint SSB ops about 2 kHz up. Was that possibly you? Did you have any
NA ops check in?
73, Fred, AE6IC in southern California. hamkt...@att.net
I just had an enlightening experience with the K3 RF gain control that may
help other K3 owners. As the RF gain control was rotated clockwise, a
significant drop in output occurred over a segment of 3 to 4 degrees at
about the 1 o'clock point. It seemed to me that the pot had a worn spot in
it
Doug Turnbull wrote:
* No matter what some say there are a number of us waiting for the
P3!!!
*
I agree Doug. Many of us have good reason to prefer the P3 over an
amplifier. CCR's limit us to stealth antennas and low power.
My previous three rigs: Jupiter, Orion 1 and OMNI VII
Julius wrote:
It was pointed out to me that, as a tool, a P3/Panadapter/Softrock does
provide a quick way of assessing activity on a given band quickly versus
twirling the knob.
I can see where this would be useful, particularly if you were looking for
openings on 10 and 15, in the past few
Eric wrote:
Will we outlaw it, like ARRL may or may not do with CW Skimmer?
For the 2009 California QSO party, you were not allowed to claim Single
Operator (SO) status if you used CW Skimmer.
It is considered outside assistance that gives the operator an unfair
advantage.
I agree, except
Paul Milward wrote:
Now for my question. I have a Heil footswitch and plan to use it for PTT.
Is the configuration I described correct? If not, how is headphone/mic and
footswitch connected?
I use a Heil footswitch connected as you described. Using connectors on the
back of the K3 sure cuts
Mike wrote: I wonder if anyone
knows how to access Auto Spot from the computer keyboard while
running WriteLog.
Mike I wrote to WriteLog about the inclusion of macros in their logger. They
never replied. Maybe if they get more requests they might get a round
toit. Otherwise there is N1MM
To all K3 users of WriteLog: I just sent the following note to Ron (K5DJ):
Hi Ron,
Just a thought. Would t be possible to add a window to WriteLog with a list
of stored macros, such that a macro sequence could be sent to the rig using
a mouse click? This would be a killer application addition
Paul wrote: Can anyone give me starting points for setting RX EQ?
Congrats on being a new K3 owner Paul. The thin sound may be due to the
narrow window that the K3 filtering places over the signal. By shifting this
window you can cover more or less of the highs and lows of the signal,
whichever
Dale, WC7S wrote:
I disconnect... all the radios. and I have still heard the coax zapping,
during a storm.
I'm thinking that is enough to cook a junction.
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I've heard that eerie ticking coming from my lightening bug arrester. This
ticking increases to a buzz as the storm gets
T. Perry wrote:
There are countless questions that are already answered for me before I ask
them here. You all are a great resource. The only direction Elecraft can go
is straight up. You all set the benchmark for a kind and caring community
that is well connected to amateur radio HF and 6m
Hi Mike. You might get things needed for building the K3 ahead of time, like
a static pad/wrist strap, and a 50 Ohm dummy load. Get a good Phillip's Head
screwdriver. I use a Husky 90044 #1. It has an 8 shank which helps reach
areas where my fat fist won't fit.
You'll need a signal source for
Oops. Mike I meant to say get an XG2 3-Band 1-uV/50 -uV Receiver Test Osc,
NOT the 2T-gen. The K3 has it's own built-in 2 tone test osc anyway. Thanks
Brett for bringing that to my attention. My mistake; its past my bedtime HI.
73, Fred, AE6IC, (es GN)
Sam wrote:
Will I have to wait until I am able to afford the XG2, just to be able to
finish the build and put it on the air?
No, it is not a necessity Sam, as others have stated, it is optional. The
minimal test arrangement required is an antenna for zero-beating the
reference osc with WWV, and
Ron wrote:
I have a K3 and MH2 as well as a Quiet Phone Plus. The Quiet Phone Plus
only works from the rear but not the front. I have Heil Kenwood
adaptor. The MH2 does not work either. Both cases not TX audio from front
connector. No Sub receiver installed. Serial number in the 2700's.
Chris wrote: I am sticking with the K3/100 when I order it.
Good choice Chris. Elecraft and Elecraft Support are like the Marine Corps
saying: The difficult we do immediately. the impossible takes a little
longer.
73, Fred, AE6IC, K3 2241
Gary wrote: I want to get a K3 and wonder if I'm as well off buying an older
K3 as getting the latest and greatest straight from Elecraft.
End snip.
Gary I also believe a new kit is best for all the reasons this list has
given. In addition, buying new gets you a factory warrantee. That said,
Bill, K9YEQ wrote: Is anyone using the 2.8 and
2.1/1.8 filters and what is the on-the-air experience?
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I have 5 of the 8-pole filters: 2.8, 2.1, 1.8, 400 250. As the bands get
more crowded (I.e. contest) I just tighten down the bandwidth. Of course a
wider BW sounds better (especially
David, Try the manual TX Gain as described on page 49 of the K3 Owner's
Manual.
Select Ant 1 using the ANT pushbutton and check that the dummy load is
attached to Ant 1 out.
73, FRED, AE6IC, K3 #2241
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Nidge wrote:
I'm wanting to order two items from the Elecraft page, namely a replacement
MCU and a packet of 20 panel screws, not really very large items. However
when I went to the checkout to select delivery method the charges struck me
as rather exploitative. They ranged from $35 for the
Hi all. While waiting for the P3 I have a few questions on setup and
measurement. Since I have never used LP pan or similar devices I'll need
some Elmering. Specifically there are two capabilities listed in the
Elecraft P3 page that I need help on:
1. Adjustable reference level and amplitude
Ron, GL with your K1 on the trail. I'll listen for you tonight on 40M. The
XYL and I visited the start of the AT (Georgia) 2 weeks ago. There were
reports of lots of Black bear activity. Campers were told to hang their food
high in a tree (at least 12 feet up and 8 feet from the tree trunk). 73,
For sale, assembled and working 2 tone generator:
Elecraft 2T-gen mini-module with fabricated test leads
1. RCA audio output lead to mini (mono) plug for mic input.
2. Toggle switch on long lead terminated with RCA female audio
connector for PTT.
$55 includes shipping in US.
If
John, are you referring to V3.97?
On another note, for my ears, the NR in V3.97 is night and day better than
any so far. At the lower odd number settings (e.g. dash 1) The signal is not
significantly degraded but there is a noticeable reduction in noise.
73, Fred, AE6IC, K3 2241
Has anyone used WriteLog to trigger the KDVR3? According to Steve, N9OH
(WriteLog), it is possible now with WL version 10.80 by inserting a K3 macro
into writelog.ini file and the designating a control key (i.e. F10.)
It seems likely, then, that every time you tap the control key you will
send
My P3 started displaying persistent clumps of noise across each band. These
clumps reoccurred at about every 72KH over most bands. I thought I had a rig
problem so I emailed Gary at Elecraft. Based on my description of the
problem he concluded the noise was not coming from the K3 or the P3. He
At first I suspected the next door neighbor's solar panel but alas, the
culprit was hiding in my own house. It was an old laptop that was not being
used anymore with its' AC adapter still plugged into the house AC but
disconnected from the laptop.
FWIW, I set the P3 span to max which let me see
It's out! The rush is own. 73, Fred
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For many of us who are constrained to one non-resonant antenna and work
multiple bands, we are presently running amps with built-in ATU
functionality. All of the discussion on bypassing external relay boxes,
etc, is of value to those who are lucky enough to have space for multiple
antennas,
For those building the K2, there is a K2 Rework Eliminator kit on Ebay. I
have nothing to do with it; just thought it might be what some of you are
looking for. 73, Fred, K3 2241, P3 100
Do or Do-not. There is no 'Try'... ~ Yoda
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VInternetPhone-Problems
I'm not much on complaining, but this problem opens Pandora's Box. Hams will
be blamed for something we have no control over. Is there a proper way to
file a complaint with the FCC?
73, Fred Atchley, AE6IC, K3 2241
Do, or do
KPA500 kit S/N 115 is up and running! I ordered early on the 1st day and it
arrived this Monday afternoon. I took my time and had fun putting it
together. I got to bed at exactly 1 AM. Everything checks out OK, even the
interface with WriteLog using Interface ll (serial 001.) The optional cable
Eric and Wayne,
To optimize desktop space I suggest the upcoming KAT500 be designed so that
its tilt stand arm can be installed in either the front (normal) or back of
the unit. That way if I set it atop a front tilted KPA500 I could raise the
back of the tuner to offset the tilt, which would a
To all:
I'm enjoying this thread because it directly addresses my two greatest
concerns. First of course is human error. The second concern is connector
problems.
Elecraft has addressed the first by using kit options on the K3/P3/KPA500 so
that I'm more aware of the result of my actions, and
Jack wrote: I owned 5 transceivers in my lifetime and I purchased a narrow
(1.8) SSB
filter for only one. It was a total wast of money. For me the filter was
too narrow for voice communications and if a nearby station was too close
the splatter and the narrow passband made the situation
With all the chatter (which is good) about K4s, color displays, DC to
daylight coverage and you name it; I hope that Elecraft keeps its focus on
completing the K line with the KAT-500. The synergism between the K3, P3
KPA-500 is perfect with the exception of using the KPA-500's output to the
Everything you need is provided Phil, right out of the box. For me, the P3
was a real eye-opener! What I used to ignore as atmospherics now have a
definite signature and the different type radio signals are easily locatied.
Have fun.
73, Fred, K-Line
Juan,
I have used the Bose QuietComfort (headset only) and they work FB. However,
the noise-canceling feature is not very useful in my ham shack. It does
little to reduce random noise like people talking, dog barking, kitchen
clanging, etc. It's really more suited for cutting out the drone of
Hams have a lot to celebrate here in California, USA. Of course, everyone
knows its home to Elecraft. However, this year there is a special reason for
the Hams of Oceanside, CA to celebrate: We fought the city to stop an
ordinance that would limit ham antennas to 36 feet plus impose a number of
Eric, will you be bringing a demo KAT500 to the ARRL SW HAMCON convention
this weekend?
It's a 2 hour+ trip for me, but I'd gladly make the trip for a glimpse of a
prototype unit.
73, Fred, AE6IC, K-Line
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I have a K3-100 with KAT3 and a KPA500 w/o a tuner. I use an all-band
Mystery (similar to a G5RV?) wire antenna. Because of the KAT3, the K3
sees a 1:1 antenna match which is good. However, I would like to operate
up to 200 watts out (low power) for the California QSO party. The KPA500
tolerates
Thanks Don.
No, it's not a trick question, just tricky for me! And yes, the feedline is
ladderline. So the bottom line is that the 200 watts w/o a tuner is slightly
better than 100 watts w/tuner using the same feedline and antenna. Every
little bit helps. I live in an area where CCR antenna
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Hi Mike,
I run coax from inside to the eve of the roof where I attach a 4:1 balun.
From there it's 300 ohm ladder line. Works FB.
73, Fred, AE6IC
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Way to go Alan.
This weekend I used the new P3 FW for the 1st time. The redesigned curser
with the heavy line on one side made a big difference in the heat of the
Salmon Run. I was using SP and the curser made CW and SSB signal alignment
easy plus helped focus on the sideband in use.
The P3
Joe es all,
I have three wire antennas in my back yard mounted below the roofline; so
they can't be seen from the front yard. I use tuned 15 meter and 40 meter
antennas that are center fed from a common balun but spread apart by about
90 degrees. The KPA500 is in the green with this combination at
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