Re: [elm-discuss] Offtopic Choo Framework

I agree that Elm is in some ways not as easy as it is made out to be, for some people at least. Especially newer programmers that have been working chiefly in JavaScrip for a while. Not that it is a problem with the language...just very different from JS in many ways. The great thing (and

[elm-discuss] Standard practices for dynamic extension/plugins in Elm?

Greetings, Everyone. I had been puzzling over something for a while and my search eventually led me here. What I was hoping to see demonstrated in Elm -- and have not found in my searches -- is how one would accommodate a plugin architecture that allows modules to be installed, activated, and

Re: [elm-discuss] Support for binary data

My use-case: I'm creating a debugger front-end for a NES emulator I'm writing. Having to serialize binary data (in particular, 16KB of address space) to be consumed by elm is inefficient in about every way possible. I currently pack it into an array of 32-bit signed ints before serialization

[elm-discuss] Why aren't doc PRs merged?

At both https://github.com/evancz/guide.elm-lang.org/pulls and https://github.com/elm-lang/elm-lang.org/pulls there's a decent number of PRs that would be useful if merged. A lot of these are simple gotchas that can save a beginner a lot of time. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [elm-discuss] Outgoing port event ordering

Or how about adding an incoming subscription port when the localStorage save finishes. Then you could put something in the model to indicate you are waiting to close. Once the save message comes back, check to see if you were waiting to close before sending the close message out the other port.

[elm-discuss] Re: Identity continuity for views

Per the discussion on the Html.Keyed thread, this problem can be addressed using Html.Keyed. In particular, here is a solution that adds an After with Keyed case that doesn't exhibit the problems of the After case: https://gist.github.com/markhamburg/b17b6d0ecb19d73ab10f015f693c4a6b The basic

[elm-discuss] [ANN] elm-graphql 1.0 released

Hi All, Version 1.0 of elm-graphql is out. It's a build tool which, given a live GraphQL endpoint, allows you to run: elm graphql And it will generate a typesafe client for any .graphql files in your Elm project! Note that the client simply executes the GraphQL queries (and decodes the

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Another case of functions in the model

Thanks for the pointer. We hadn't dug into Phoenix deeply enough to see that it has a request/response architecture at the channel level already, so that was useful news. On the other hand, what that basically does is says that for the special case of Phoenix channels where the need for a callback

Re: [elm-discuss] Structure for large Elm apps

I'm no expert, and would like clarification on this as well, but "pages of an app" seems like the main place where using nested modules makes sense -- unless your pages can be modeled more easily as variants of each other, as sometimes happens. My experience* has been that just about

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: http "middleware" options

On the one hand, yes, an effects manager seems like the way to do this. On the other hand, effects manager documentation is largely absent and the guide basically says that effects managers are only expected to be written by a handful of people and therefore probably aren't a general purpose

Re: [elm-discuss] Outgoing port event ordering

Ahh...I see. Assuming you have some sort of autosave logic, how about two messages: Save and SaveAndQuit? It seems reasonable to me to split the actions this way...Save could be scheduled using Time.every and SaveAndQuit could be both an explicit user interaction and an incoming port message

Re: [elm-discuss] Structure for large Elm apps

Is this article (and the one it refers to) taking a good or bad approach to program structure? http://7sharpnine.com/2016/10/03/building-an-spa-with-elm/ I copied the structure as a way of seeing how a program might perhaps be broken down, but it feels like a very component based approach, given

Re: [elm-discuss] Outgoing port event ordering

The problem initially arose when I had two ports, one of which wrote to local storage and the other of which closed the window. Nothing was ever written to local storage because the window closed first. The reason I went with two ports is because those actions are so conceptually different, and

Re: [elm-discuss] Offtopic Choo Framework

What do you find hard about learning Elm? We want Elm to be friendly to beginners. It would be helpful to hear about your experience! On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 9:08 AM, António Ramos wrote: > Hello guys just trying to learm Elm but its not easy. > I just found this js

Re: [elm-discuss] Outgoing port event ordering

>From what I can tell, port communication uses Cmd because interop with JavaScript isn't necessarily a request-response communication pattern (instead, port are pubsub). But I do have a question: *Is the underlying problem a need to coordinate access to a shared resource in JavaScript? *I ask

Re: [elm-discuss] Elm Test building custom generators

Yes I did Zach ᐧ On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Max Goldstein wrote: > Fuzz.map4, which I think was only added in 2.1.0 so that's why Zachary > didn't see it in August. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Elm Discuss"

Re: [elm-discuss] Structure for large Elm apps

Hi, thanks for your answer, I also got the impression that component approach was being discouraged as the notorious "dual counters" and "list of counters" relying on the component approach have been withdrawn from documentation as it seems... To be fair I have already read the docs, but my

[elm-discuss] Re: Offtopic Choo Framework

Cool little library, but the main thing that makes me use Elm is not TEA, but rather the functional language. Having types removes entire classes of bugs and immutability makes it easy to reason about a program flow. It is just too easy to break both of those aspects in Javascript, even with

[elm-discuss] Offtopic Choo Framework

Hello guys just trying to learm Elm but its not easy. I just found this js framework https://github.com/yoshuawuyts/choo i has the same concept as TEA subscriptions , model, update and messages Maybe i just learn it too, because i just feel that going back to angular/react/vue is giving up in

Re: [elm-discuss] Catch Elm.Main.fullscreen "unexpected argument" error?

Thanks! I'll try your version suggestion. I also understand why I couldn't catch the error now too from this post: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/elm-discuss/vk4w_Ei8A84 Thanks, Kevin (Also, sorry for double posting!) On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 5:19:01 PM UTC-4, Peter Damoc

[elm-discuss] Re: trying to draw a diagram about elm-architecture

Here's my version (so far) that includes Effects Managers: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154586193039127=gm.1771231996493568=3 On Monday, May 30, 2016 at 8:14:38 PM UTC-7, 大魔头 wrote: > > hi, > > I've tried out examples in http://guide.elm-lang.org/ , now I want to > prepare myself

[elm-discuss] Re: Catching error in fullscreen/App.programWithFlags

Thanks for the explanation! Now that I understand what is happening I think I'll go with the fix described here https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/elm-discuss/F_oLy4PUF2o. Thanks, Kevin (Also, sorry for double posting!) On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 7:59:15 PM UTC-4, OvermindDL1

Re: [elm-discuss] #PolymerSummit

The components mentioned in that page of the guide have more to do with the Elm Components, the old nesting structure that was present in the elm architecture tutorial before 0.17 Web components/ polymer integration is actually something very interesting and a rather new topic to be explored:

Re: [elm-discuss] #PolymerSummit

sorry my lack of knowledge... after i read https://guide.elm-lang.org/reuse/ i understood that components are the same as web components and are not the path offered by elm. Also elm is an alternative to polymer/angular/vue/react and as such i dont understand why are you trying to put them

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: This week, we hit 5000+ users on Slack

Wow, that's incredible! On this mailing list, I approve messages from newcomers at a rate of about 3 per day. (Once the first message is approved, they can send messages without mod approval thereafter). It's neat to see how vibrant the growth of this community is. On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 6:09

[elm-discuss] #PolymerSummit

Anybody at the #PolymerSummit in London? Maybe let's discuss Elm with Web components? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Elm Discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [elm-discuss] Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'style' of null

This looks like an error in Ghostery browser extension not in your elm code. Disable the extension and try again. :) On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 11:03 AM, kees Bleijenberg < k.bleijenb...@lijbrandt.nl> wrote: > I started my first Elm project. It compiles without errors. If I load the > index.html

Re: [elm-discuss] Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'style' of null

I believe ghostery.js is a Firefox plugin? What happens if you disable it in your browser? On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:03 AM, kees Bleijenberg < k.bleijenb...@lijbrandt.nl> wrote: > I started my first Elm project. It compiles without errors. If I load the > index.html in Chrome I get: > Uncaught

[elm-discuss] Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'style' of null

I started my first Elm project. It compiles without errors. If I load the index.html in Chrome I get: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'style' of null in ghostery.js line 3 At all places I use div [] [] So the first arg is empty. I'am using elm-reactor 0.17.1 on Windows. What can I

[elm-discuss] Featured users - elm.lang page

Hi there :) I noticed that* "Want to get featured? Let us know how your company uses Elm on elm-discuss or twitter!"* from elm-lang.org has vanished. Wandering if this was done on purpose or if it is just something that was forgotten to be added on the new landing page. Does anyone know if it

[elm-discuss] D3js for 0.17??

hello i dont find any d3js library to use with elm 0.17 Any ideas? thank you -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Elm Discuss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[elm-discuss] Re: http "middleware" options

It seems (I could be wrong; I often am) like creating an Effects manager is the proper way to efficiently handle side state management. https://github.com/elm-lang/core/blob/master/src/Platform.elm An example: https://gist.github.com/maxhoffmann/240574e892bf9118aeb2dd1e8a645e0a Just a quick

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Integrating Elm with Web Components / Polymer

On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 10:29:52 AM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote: > > On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 2:50:44 PM UTC+1, Peter Damoc wrote: >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 1:35 PM, 'Rupert Smith' via Elm Discuss < >> elm-d...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> 1. Build some support into the Elm

Re: [elm-discuss] Re: Integrating Elm with Web Components / Polymer

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 2:50:44 PM UTC+1, Peter Damoc wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 1:35 PM, 'Rupert Smith' via Elm Discuss < > elm-d...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > >> 1. Build some support into the Elm compiler for webcomponents. >> > > There could also be a direction where Elm

Re: [elm-discuss] Outgoing port event ordering

In another discussion, I was pointed to http://faq.elm-community.org/17.html#what-is-the-difference-between-cmd-and-task, which sheds some light on the issue, but also raises a few questions. Specifically: 1. The article mentions that APIs generally expose Task in favor of Cmd. Why is

Re: [elm-discuss] Structure for large Elm apps

update is a function that takes a message and a model and produces the updated version of the model. In some cases, update also can produce some requests for more input (http requests, requests for random numbers, ports requests) this is why the top level update has (Model, Cmd Msg) as return.

Re: [elm-discuss] control structure

yes thankyou :) On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 at 6:55:15 PM UTC+8, Duane Johnson wrote: > > Recursion is the basic principle on which repetition is based in > functional languages like Elm. However, in most cases, recursion is not > needed for day to day programming, because functions such as

Re: [elm-discuss] Outgoing port event ordering

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Janis Voigtländer < janis.voigtlaen...@gmail.com> wrote: > Peter, the problem in David’s case is that the actions he wants to order > execution of are port data sending, and there is no “something lower level, > like Tasks” for that. The only API available for