Re: [Emc-developers] Machinekit slowdown ?

2024-06-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 6/3/24 15:14, Rich Colvin via Emc-developers wrote: There are also NTP servers based on GPS (or the cell phone network which uses GPS). These can be on that detached network. GPS won't work next to a cyclotron, in a massively shielded building. Jon

[Emc-developers] Machinekit slowdown ?

2024-06-03 Thread Jon Elson
I have several special-purpose devices based on machinekit on the Beagle Bone. In one case, we are using it in a hospital where they won't allow us to connect anything to their network.  So, we set up a point to point Ethernet link between a laptop and the Beagle Bone.  When starting

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-04-07 Thread Jon Elson
Does anyone have agenda items for the meeting? I will be glad to present my servo tuning demo, but that is all I have. Thanks, Jon ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-developers] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-04-07 Thread Jon Elson
Does anyone have agenda items for the meeting? I will be glad to present my servo tuning demo, but that is all I have. Thanks, Jon ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-03-20 Thread Jon Elson
Will people who plan to attend (weekend of April 22-23) please confirm? We only have a couple names so far, and Tormach doesn't want to commit their resources for a tiny crowd. Please reply here or directly to me if you plant to attend. Thanks, Jon

Re: [Emc-developers] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-03-20 Thread Jon Elson
Will people who plan to attend (weekend of April 22-23) please confirm? We only have a couple names so far, and Tormach doesn't want to commit their resources for a tine crowd. Please reply here or directly to me if you plant to attend. Thanks, Jon

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-03-16 Thread Jon Elson
Would anyone who plans to attend please let me know, so I can get a total of attendees and inform Tormach how big the horde is going to be? Thanks, Jon ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-developers] [Emc-users] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-03-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 3/7/23 11:10, Jon Elson wrote: On 1/18/23 18:29, Jon Elson wrote: Daniel Rogge of Tormach has mentioned that he is trying to set up a meeting in April with Robert Ellenberg, John Morris and Alex Rossler over a weekend.  Does anybody have a specific date they would prefer or can't attend

[Emc-developers] April 2023 LinuxCNC meeting at Tormach headquarters

2023-03-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 1/18/23 18:29, Jon Elson wrote: Daniel Rogge of Tormach has mentioned that he is trying to set up a meeting in April with Robert Ellenberg, John Morris and Alex Rossler over a weekend.  Does anybody have a specific date they would prefer or can't attend?  We could possibly set up a meeting

[Emc-developers] Fwd: spindle speed output not working?

2023-03-06 Thread Jon Elson
Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] spindle speed output not working? Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 12:26:00 -0600 From: Jon Elson To: Sebastian Kuzminsky On 3/5/23 20:28, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: I can imagine halcmd emitting a warning if you call

Re: [Emc-developers] spindle speed output not working?

2023-03-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 1/15/23 11:50, Jon Elson wrote: Hello, all, I have a user who can't get spindle speed to work.  He says he is using 2.7.0 and my USC/UPC boards with the 8-bit spindle DAC board. The user sent his computer to me, and I have discovered what looks like it could be considered a bug.  He had

Re: [Emc-developers] Reminder: It's Today! (January 2023 Online Meeting)

2023-01-18 Thread Jon Elson
Daniel Rogge of Tormach has mentioned that he is trying to set up a meeting in April with Robert Ellenberg, John Morris and Alex Rossler over a weekend.  Does anybody have a specific date they would prefer or can't attend?  We could possibly set up a meeting that partly overlaps the one with

[Emc-developers] spindle speed output not working?

2023-01-15 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, all, I have a user who can't get spindle speed to work.  He says he is using 2.7.0 and my USC/UPC boards with the 8-bit spindle DAC board. When he tells it to start the spindle (I presume with M03 S1000 or similar) he gets zero out of motion.spindle-speed-out. Can anybody say what

Re: [Emc-developers] feed hold ?

2022-12-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/4/22 12:16, Chris Morley wrote: The jog inhibiting code from motion-inhibit was purposely removed some time ago. Why, I don't know because it was put in by me specifically for that purpose a long while back. as for feed-hold, my guess would be the code change affected it too - probably

Re: [Emc-developers] feed hold ?

2022-12-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/4/22 10:44, Jon Elson wrote: I was demoing my touch probe yesterday and saw something odd. This probe uses IR signals, and so the interface will detect loss of IR communication and cause a feed hold.  I was astonished to see that the keyboard jog keys allowed me to move the axes while

[Emc-developers] feed hold ?

2022-12-04 Thread Jon Elson
I was demoing my touch probe yesterday and saw something odd. This probe uses IR signals, and so the interface will detect loss of IR communication and cause a feed hold.  I was astonished to see that the keyboard jog keys allowed me to move the axes while feed hold was true!  The probe

Re: [Emc-developers] A vision for working now to LinuxCnc version 10

2022-12-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/3/22 18:57, chris morley wrote: I am not sure why you are hostile. I am really trying to understand exactly what you want. Machinekit did work on networking, though I think it was just HAL. It's why I mentioned it. Underneath HAL there is NML that links major sections of LinuxCNC

[Emc-developers] manual tool change

2022-12-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/21/22 19:35, Jon Elson wrote: I have a user who tried to implement the manual tool change button in LinuxCNC 2.8, he says there is no continue button displayed. His original code was : loadusr-W hal_manualtoolchange net tool-change iocontrol.0.tool-change

Re: [Emc-developers] time delay hal component for lube pump

2022-11-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/21/22 17:13, Feral Engineer wrote: Classicladder is awesome for this  But, way overkill for just one function. Maybe I should use timedelay as a template and write my own one-shot component. Jon ___ Emc-developers mailing list

[Emc-developers] time delay hal component for lube pump

2022-11-21 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, all, I need a hal component for a lube pump. What I am looking for is more like a one-shot than the existing timedelay component. timedelay seems to be able to delay the start or the end of a signal, but output will follow the input after the delays occur. I wanted a component that

Re: [Emc-developers] RTAI support for kernel 5.4 works so far, pending musl/math test

2022-10-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/24/22 15:28, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: Jon, You can actually grab the sid 6.0 kernel and drop it on Bullseye and perhaps even Buster: Yes, I actually did this on a Bullseye install.  I also had to install the firmware files that didn't come in along with the new kernel for

Re: [Emc-developers] RTAI support for kernel 5.4 works so far, pending musl/math test

2022-10-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/22/22 21:54, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: I will post Debian packages for the 5.4 RTAI kernel once it's ready, but it may be a few weeks of testing. I need to fool proof Kconfig as well. I'll be using the latest Debian Bullseye 5.10 kernel config as the baseline, and just let

[Emc-developers] pyvcp buttons to move to arbitrary coordinates

2022-08-15 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, I have a one-axis positioner set up using Machinekit and Axis, with some PyVCP buttons that go to specific pre-programmed coordinates.  it would be nice to be able to type a coordinate into a dialog box and then go to that coordinate.  Is there a way to do this?  I can probably

Re: [Emc-developers] PCIe EPP parport issues

2022-07-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 7/16/22 22:05, Jon Elson wrote: Well, the saga continues!  I thought I had this all working, but then rebooted today, and could not get the MCS9900 card to work properly.  I could run my diag and see the boards respond, but then when I ran some tests, the parport would lock up, and lspci

Re: [Emc-developers] BIG Quirk in Axis??

2022-07-30 Thread Jon Elson
I have been setting up an R2E3 mill using the 2.8.2 distribution from a couple weeks ago. I now have 2 servo amps running and tuned.  Now I tried to run a stripped-down axis.ngc program, but get no motion!  Then, I tried doing some moves in MDI mode, and again no motion!  I can jog around

Re: [Emc-developers] sudo make setuid -> cannot gain I/O privileges

2022-07-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 7/27/22 10:25, Thomas J Powderly wrote: congrats on the fix Jon tomp Well, the problem is that the /usr/share/misc/pci.ids file in the LinuxCNC 2.8.2 distro has missing info. It would be good to get this fixed and re-issue the distro. Jon

Re: [Emc-developers] sudo make setuid -> cannot gain I/O privileges

2022-07-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 7/27/22 00:13, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: I have solved one issue with the LinuxCNC 2.8.2 distribution, relating to at least the NetMos MCS9900 chip.  Here are the details: The file /usr/share/misc/pci.ids has no entry for the vendor:product IDs 9710:9900.  This apparently causes

[Emc-developers] Fwd: sudo make setuid -> cannot gain I/O privileges

2022-07-25 Thread Jon Elson
Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] sudo make setuid -> cannot gain I/O privileges Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2022 12:18:39 -0500 From: Jon Elson To: andy pugh On 7/25/22 04:16, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 25 Jul 2022 at 05:37, Alec Ari via Emc-develop

[Emc-developers] PCIe EPP parport issues

2022-07-16 Thread Jon Elson
I have been selling Syba SD-PEX10005 PCIe parallel port cards for several years, they seem to work well with most computers and LinuxCNC and my line of motion interfaces.  Now, I have 2 Dell Optiplex 7010 computers that they do NOT work on.  It seems that both my diagnostic program and the

[Emc-developers] Quirk in Axis

2022-06-19 Thread Jon Elson
I had a weird thing happen for the second time on my mill using LinuxCNC 2.8 and Axis. I was having issues with my keyboard due to a bad DIN-5 to PS/2 adapter, causing the keyboard/BIOS to lose a lot of key-up events.  I was doing some semi-manual machining, going back and forth between MDI,

[Emc-developers] PCIe parallel port cards

2022-04-26 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, all, I sell PCIe parallel port cards to go with my line of parallel port-connected motion interface boards. I have found some boards that I can't make work.  My default is the Syba SD-PEX10005 which uses either the MCS9900 or 9901 chip. I recently bought what were supposed to be the

Re: [Emc-developers] curious about the ethernet protocol

2022-04-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 4/20/22 13:26, Torsten Curdt via Emc-developers wrote: But to me the whole idea breaks down when using a Closed Loop Stepper or a Servo. At least unless you feed the encoders into LinuxCNC it seems to heavily weaken the idea. Yes, that's the whole idea! The encoder is read by LinuxCNC,

Re: [Emc-developers] curious about the ethernet protocol

2022-04-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 4/20/22 11:53, Torsten Curdt via Emc-developers wrote: But to me the whole idea breaks down when using a Closed Loop Stepper or a Servo. At least unless you feed the encoders into LinuxCNC it seems to heavily weaken the idea. Yes, that's the whole idea!  The encoder is read by LinuxCNC,

Re: [Emc-developers] curious about the ethernet protocol

2022-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 4/16/22 12:17, Torsten Curdt via Emc-developers wrote: But this feedback loop decouples the real position from the meant-to-be position. (expressed in the following error) And I don't see how the real position could be reported back to LinuxCNC so it's still in full control of the movement.

[Emc-developers] latency issues on i7 CPU

2021-08-15 Thread Jon Elson
I have a customer that has installed 2.8.2 from the iso onto a system with the Intel i7 CPU. He is getting rotten latency jitter, around 66 us.  He intends to use it with my Unversal Stepper Controller, which needs better jitter than that.  He has not made any changes to the stock install.

Re: [Emc-developers] Mitsubishi meldas MDS-B-SVJ2-10 compatibilty

2021-07-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 7/12/21 10:59 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Hello, all, I have a customer  that has a router with Meldas MDS-B-SVJ2-10 brushless servo drives. I tried digging through the manuals.  It looks like the drives are daisy-chained through some protocol from a Mitsubishi proprietary controller

Re: [Emc-developers] GWiz Wizard

2021-06-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/04/2021 05:35 PM, John Thornton wrote: I noticed that the GWiz Wizard has not been touched for 12 years and seems to be unfinished. Should we depreciate that from master and remove it from the documents? I was interesting in this as an extension to LinuxCNC. I converted one of my

Re: [Emc-developers] flipflop

2021-05-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/29/2021 09:56 AM, Jeff Epler wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 09:05:51PM +0100, andy pugh wrote: I wonder why the output pin of flipflop.comp is of type io? Perhaps it was intended for a specific purpose? flipflop only drives a value onto its output when it is clocked or when its set

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-05-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/01/2021 06:24 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 03:53, Jon Elson wrote: Most of the work in Machinekit was to install Robert Ellenberg's trajectory planner and then remove as much NML as possible to make parts of LinuxCNC work across the net. The big problem with NML is it uses

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/30/2021 08:16 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: And unless you intend to support a platform that while it might be capable of it, has virtually no common i/o hardware with any other platform. Machinekit is not bound to the ARM architecture in any way, It happens to be easily installed on the

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/30/2021 01:47 PM, Alan Condit wrote: I think that one of the ways to re-ignite LinuxCNC is to pull some of the changes that were done in Machinekit back into LinuxCNC. However, some (maybe all) of those changes were done with no thought to release versioning. That being said, those

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/29/2021 07:06 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: I can hardly wait until AI (the real magic) lets us speak in our native tongue and have AI generate error free code in real time. It should be very soon now. "Very soon", in the geological scale of time? Yes, sure. In our lifetimes (in the

Re: [Emc-developers] chart of arrays

2021-04-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/28/2021 06:08 AM, Matt Shaver wrote: I think what Stuart wants is a diagram of the data structures in Linuxcnc that visually represents their scope and that shows what code accesses them. Yes, that would be lovely, but would likely be the size of a street map of Seoul, S. Korea! LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-developers] using ats 667's to generate z pulses.

2021-04-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/16/2021 12:30 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am still looking for a little help in rigid tapping. OK, some other thoughts. You should use Halscope to get a trace of following error when doing the rigid tapping move, and see if there are any spikes in the error right

Re: [Emc-developers] using ats 667's to generate z pulses.

2021-04-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/17/2021 04:50 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Depends on which gear Jon. I have switches on the knob, and I switch encoder scales in some hal stuff according to the switches. The effective scales are something over 7000/1 in high gear, and a similar fudge factor over 14,000 in low gear. This was

Re: [Emc-developers] using ats 667's to generate z pulses.

2021-04-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/16/2021 12:30 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I am still looking for a little help in rigid tapping. Since the GO704 can only muster around 2 hp in its current drive configuration, its often that I have to write a peck routine where each peck goes just a fraction of a turn farther

Re: [Emc-developers] 5 axis cutter compensation

2021-04-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/15/2021 03:30 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Which EMC Corp sent the letter demanding the group stopped using EMC2? There are at least three now. https://www.dellemc.com/ A wing of Dell I think it is this one, I had no idea Dell bought them. I have no idea if Dell is as rabid at

Re: [Emc-developers] 5 axis cutter compensation

2021-04-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/15/2021 12:36 PM, John Thornton wrote: Well it could be shortened to NEMC Nope, the dastardly EMC2 corporation would be all over us if we did that. That's why we had to change the name about a decade ago. Jon ___ Emc-developers mailing

Re: [Emc-developers] Home_use_index issue revisited

2021-04-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/03/2021 11:39 PM, Sam Sokolik wrote: Initially I would just try 'and-ing' the 2 in hal or classic ladder and run strait to the home input. (Not using the home to index) If the prox sensor is of very short duration in linear motion, then the AND will just pop on for a moment, and

Re: [Emc-developers] Beagle Bone / PRU support ?

2021-04-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/01/2021 03:36 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 03:10, Alan Condit wrote: I have an extra BBB that is not in use. I would be happy to donate it to the project. Thanks. I do have a BBB, but it does not have OS / kernel set up for LinuxCNC. In fact it might never have been

Re: [Emc-developers] Beagle Bone / PRU support ?

2021-03-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/28/2021 09:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I, for comparison, I just built the latest git pull on my pi4, getting these times, which I don't quite grok: real81m28.218s user133m40.185s sys 30m24.466s How do I get user+sys at nearly 2x the real which is the same as the actual wall

Re: [Emc-developers] Beagle Bone / PRU support ?

2021-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/28/2021 04:18 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 at 19:40, Jon Elson wrote: I was wondering if there was any possibility that LinuxCNC could support the Beagle Bone and Charles Steinkuehler's driver for the PRU. I have talked to Charles about it in the past (a few years ago

Re: [Emc-developers] Beagle Bone / PRU support ?

2021-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/28/2021 04:50 PM, Bari wrote: On 3/28/21 1:39 PM, Jon Elson wrote: I was wondering if there was any possibility that LinuxCNC could support the Beagle Bone and Charles Steinkuehler's driver for the PRU. This does software stepping with quite decent performance by moving the "

[Emc-developers] Beagle Bone / PRU support ?

2021-03-28 Thread Jon Elson
The Machinekit project seems to be very quiet. Maybe they think they accomplished all their goals. I was wondering if there was any possibility that LinuxCNC could support the Beagle Bone and Charles Steinkuehler's driver for the PRU. This does software stepping with quite decent

Re: [Emc-developers] issues with 2.8.0-pre1

2021-02-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/05/2021 01:32 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 20:43, Jon Elson wrote: The automatic update of the .ini and .hal files crashed and left a big mess The originals should be backed up in a folder in the config folder. No problem, I had backups. Why are you using 2.8.0~pre1

Re: [Emc-developers] issues with 2.8.0-pre1

2021-02-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/04/2021 03:49 PM, John Thornton wrote: If you could list the items that are not correct with the corrected information I can work on them. I searched for tons of places but nothing showed up... also if your looking at the html documents online the url would help me find the document

Re: [Emc-developers] issues with 2.8.0-pre1

2021-02-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/04/2021 02:42 PM, Jon Elson wrote: And, the second one is that before homing, my jog pendant works fine. AFTER homing all axes, it does not cause movement. I looked at : joint.0.jog-enable it goes true when the jog enable button is pressed joint.0.jog-scale it is 2.5x10^-5 (-r ^-6

[Emc-developers] issues with 2.8.0-pre1

2021-02-04 Thread Jon Elson
My trusty computer on my Bridgeport started going flaky, so I put in the development computer I had used for PCIe and 64-bit testing. The automatic update of the .ini and .hal files crashed and left a big mess, so i had to do the joint conversion by hand. That all seemed to go well, but now

Re: [Emc-developers] Minimum feed rate in G93

2021-01-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/11/2021 01:30 PM, Robert Ellenberg wrote: I think the reason there are minimum feed rate (overall) is because motion / TP has a few places where it needs to detect if the machine is stopped, and the test has some numerical tolerance in it to avoid floating point weirdness. That said, there

Re: [Emc-developers] Minimum feed rate in G93

2021-01-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/11/2021 09:23 AM, Robert Ellenberg wrote: The good news is, I've got a fix that removes this restriction, and instead checks if the resulting feed rate is above the minimum that the rest of the system can handle (rebased onto 2.8):

Re: [Emc-developers] What to do about the docs?

2020-11-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/30/2020 01:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: And this has an encoder generating good quadrature signals optically, on the back end of the motor, from which the encoder module will output both position in counts (for comparison to SCALE) and velocity. Can I use both signals in 2 pid's in series?

Re: [Emc-developers] What to do about the docs?

2020-11-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/29/2020 08:09 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: But what characteristic is it that actually determines what sort of a servo it is? As in torque vs velocity? I intend for this to work under cutting loads. That is why the double reduction of two worm drives in series that this will be. A velocity

Re: [Emc-developers] What to do about the docs?

2020-11-29 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/29/2020 07:02 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I should be at about the servo tuning step by this time next week, something I have only done with steppers, and likely at less than optimum settings. Is there a tut on adjusting such a servo? You could look at my page on servo tuning at :

Re: [Emc-developers] Pi crashed.

2020-11-28 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/28/2020 04:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: [ 3661.143] (II) modeset(0): EDID vendor "ONN", prod id 257 [ 5461.166] (II) modeset(0): EDID vendor "ONN", prod id 257 Apparently is going to repeat until it crashes. Could be the monitor has crashed and is reporting invalid EDID numbers. Or,

Re: [Emc-developers] CNC Controller

2020-10-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/16/2020 07:11 AM, Matt Shaver wrote: >From the e-mail address, I would guess: http://www.jdsmotion.com/ Wow, Matt, I haven't seen you on in ages! Good to see you around! Jon ___ Emc-developers mailing list

[Emc-developers] Wheezy install vs. editors

2020-09-18 Thread Jon Elson
One of my customers is having issues with editing hal files. He says he is using the Wheezy iso install, and the only editor on it is "mousepad". Never heard of that. He reports that if he opens a hal file for editing, LinuxCNC/Axis will no longer come up. I remembered an issue about

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

2020-08-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/04/2020 10:10 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 04 August 2020 08:10:48 Stuart Stevenson wrote: I saw no problems in config.log other than the configure report in the terminal. libgnomeprint-2.2 and optreset both are 'OLD' - I believe I can safely ignore both But I was talking about

Re: [Emc-developers] problem understanding diagram from help-pages of pncconf

2020-07-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/14/2020 11:00 AM, Reinhard wrote: Last weeks I worked hard on linuxcnc and the deeper I dig, the more upset I get. Such a great project and nobody cares about quality ... That makes me mad. ... and when I see such things like the homing maze ... That was too much Well, I've been using

Re: [Emc-developers] problem understanding diagram from help-pages of pncconf

2020-07-14 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/14/2020 10:31 AM, Chris Morley wrote: I don't understand your hostility. I didn't create the homing routine but it seems reasonable to me. Linuxcnc is capable of doing exactly what you are used to, just set some of the settings to zero. There is a case where the home position MUST be

Re: [Emc-developers] What to do about the docs?

2020-07-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/12/2020 03:59 PM, Rod Webster wrote: Personally, I think the power of Google Translate makes this redundant. If I open a non-english HTML page Google Translate just translates it for me. I asked a French speaking person to review a 20 page technical document of mine which I had translated

Re: [Emc-developers] What to do about the docs?

2020-07-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/12/2020 12:49 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 at 18:44, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: By the way. I second the dropping the PDF docs in favour of the HTML ones. It's much more easy to find the info in the HTML docs that I almost forget there are PDF docs uploaded. The PDF ones are

Re: [Emc-developers] What to do about the docs?

2020-07-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/12/2020 10:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 at 16:39, wrote: Go for it AndyP. Is this support for dropping the multilingual docs? Well, horribly out of date multilingual docs should maybe be removed from the main directory tree, but retained in git so if somebody so

Re: [Emc-developers] Docs help required

2020-07-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/08/2020 09:25 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 12:27, John wrote: Odd, when I try and view a page on github I get a 404 page not found. https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/andypugh/cn_docs/docs/src/getting-started/Master_Getting_Started_cn.txt The main page comes up,

Re: [Emc-developers] armhf master is ignoreing axis limits

2020-07-05 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/05/2020 01:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I see some fussing about jerky jogs so I thought I'd go check mine, starting with the Sheldon, which is driven by an rpi4b thru a 7i90 setup. Zero such problems, before or after homeing. Both the hand dials and the keyboard work

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-12 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/12/2020 04:03 AM, andy pugh wrote: Machinekit abandoned the idea of releases. I have heard that that makes it hard to find a version that actually works. Yes, my test fixture still uses a build set up by Matt Shaver quite a few years ago. But, then, Robert C. Nelson started building

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/10/2020 09:33 PM, Reinhard wrote: RIP-installation? - wtf - I wanted to start with linuxcnc, not bring it to cementery RIP is "Run In Place". This allows you to have several versions of LinuxCNC on the same computer. It is usually used by developers who have compiled LinuxCNC from the

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/10/2020 05:19 PM, Alec Ari via Emc-developers wrote: Paolo just emailed me and can't recreate the RTAI crash on his end. I asked about his configuration and I'll be trying a few more things. Yeah, I was afraid of that. He has some "magic sauce" in his systems that nobody else knows

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/09/2020 03:07 PM, andy pugh wrote: I have a simple test, but I am far from sure that it exercises the same bug. #!/bin/bash for PASS in $(seq 1 10); do echo starting pass ${PASS} insmod /usr/realtime-4.14.174-rtai-amd64/modules/rtai_hal.ko insmod

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/09/2020 10:03 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 at 15:49, Jon Elson wrote: Now that you've narrowed it down to abs It's not abs. That's just the alphabetically first test. It crashes (more slowly) even if you just do realtime start / halrun -U in a loop. Ugh! Well, Paolo

Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Situation

2020-06-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/09/2020 05:25 AM, andy pugh wrote: Specifically a script that starts realtime, loads an instance of the abs component and then exists will cause a kernel lock up after hundreds to thousands of cycles. Now that you've narrowed it down to abs (VERY good detective work, there!) you might

Re: [Emc-developers] PRs, CI, issue reporting

2020-05-27 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/27/2020 11:41 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 11:20, John Morris wrote: I see the GH org's repo has 281 branches. (!!!) Are all those branches inherited from glo (I see some of my own branches in there!), or are individuals still pushing directly to their own feature

Re: [Emc-developers] Sigma5ABS Implementation - Commutation

2020-05-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/10/2020 10:20 PM, Curtis Dutton wrote: These do have hall signals to allow initial commutation. Ah, that solves the commutation issue. If you had to drive fanuc encoder/servos from a bldc component how would you (roughly speaking) configure them? Well, I don't. I make brushless servo

Re: [Emc-developers] Sigma5ABS Implementation - Commutation

2020-05-10 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/10/2020 07:20 PM, Curtis Dutton wrote: I have been able to get the yaskawa sigma5 motors turning with the bldc component in qh mode. The encoders are a sort of hybrid incremental/absolute encoder. Once they pass the index point a flag and an offset are returned in the encoder data that

Re: [Emc-developers] startup anomaly on OLD LinuxCNC

2020-05-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/06/2020 11:26 AM, Sam Sokolik wrote: I think the splash gcode sets the units to mm... So if your program doesn't change it back to inches you will get odd behavior... (I think) WOW, thank you! Yes, that could completely explain the behavior. I normally leave the machine in inch mode

[Emc-developers] startup anomaly on OLD LinuxCNC

2020-05-05 Thread Jon Elson
Yes, I KNOW, this is a REALLY old version, but just thought I'd report it. I'm running LinuxCNC 2.5.4 on my Bridgeport mill. I just used it a couple days ago, everything worked fine. I started it up today, homed, and forgot to load the toolpath, and pressed R with the LinuxCNC toolpath

Re: [Emc-developers] Third-Party GUIs

2020-05-04 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/04/2020 09:01 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Last time I checked, which was very, very long ago, Machinekit had not replaced the NML system used to communicate between the LinuxCNC GUIs and the machine controller, they had just wrapped it in a new software layer. Did they get rid of NML

Re: [Emc-developers] Third-Party GUIs

2020-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2020 07:26 AM, Robert Murphy wrote: Machinekit, IMHO, seemed to be focused more towards the hobbyist who wants bells and whistles rather than an industrial\commercial scene. Well, no. A major focus was to support multiple instances of Machinekit working in the same physical space,

Re: [Emc-developers] Third-Party GUIs

2020-05-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/02/2020 05:13 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 10:15, Phill Carter wrote: I really don't see a problem with having the UI's as part of LinuxCNC Many folk already complain that LinuxCNC is too difficult to set up. I think that we would lose a lot of new users at the point that

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/26/2020 01:01 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 at 17:00, Jon Elson wrote: Also, this bug would have affected all 2.7.x versions installed on a 64-bit kernel. Should we backport the fixed version to them? Do you think that it is important enough to prompt an incremental 2.7

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 07:04 PM, andy pugh wrote: No, there is no 64-bit HAL pin to export the count on. So, if there's a move afoot to add s64 integers as a hal type, maybe we should merge my recent commit on hal_ppmc.c to master, and wait for the s64 variables to become available before extending

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 07:27 PM, Rod Webster wrote: I wondered how much effort there was in adding a new hal type. PCW has mentioned a string type would be helpful or him so If I were to dive in and add one type, it would not be hard to add an s64 as well. How hard would it be do you think to do that? I

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 02:51 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 19:13, Jon Elson wrote: So, this Wiki page is the only place I know that tells how to do the whole process. Is this any good? http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/code/building-linuxcnc.html Hmmm, that might have been helpful

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 01:24 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 04/25/2020 11:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: So, swapping "long" for "int32_t" should make it work like it used to. Actually, it has to be hal_s32_t. The next question is whether you would prefer to store counts as 64 bits to be su

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 11:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: So, swapping "long" for "int32_t" should make it work like it used to. Actually, it has to be hal_s32_t. The next question is whether you would prefer to store counts as 64 bits to be sure that nobody wraps an encoder while this universe exists. (the

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 12:33 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 18:29, Jon Elson wrote: Seems like a problem with a preempt rt build -- or the instructions for it. Which instructions were you following? Ugh, there is a wiki page under "Installing linuxCNC" that has sections for

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 12:11 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 04/25/2020 11:16 AM, Jon Elson wrote: And, now, debian/configure -r your kernel '4.9.0-8-rt-amd64' is not known. There might be needed dependencies which won't get set automatically. successfully configured for 'Debian-9.5'-'4.9.0-8-rt-amd64

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 11:16 AM, Jon Elson wrote: And, now, debian/configure -r your kernel '4.9.0-8-rt-amd64' is not known. There might be needed dependencies which won't get set automatically. successfully configured for 'Debian-9.5'-'4.9.0-8-rt-amd64'.. and : dpkg-checkbuilddeps dpkg

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 11:16 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 04/25/2020 05:55 AM, andy pugh wrote: OK, I got the git clone to work. Now, I'm trying to compile the source. Is there a newer description for setting up Debian 9 to compile from source? The wiki page is from 2016. I got to sudo apt-get install

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 05:55 AM, andy pugh wrote: OK, I got the git clone to work. Now, I'm trying to compile the source. Is there a newer description for setting up Debian 9 to compile from source? The wiki page is from 2016. I got to sudo apt-get install libreadline5-dev and it couldn't find it.

Re: [Emc-developers] Setting up to work on 64-bit driver issues

2020-04-25 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/25/2020 06:11 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 04:21, Jon Elson wrote: I immediately saw there were problems handling conversion to scaled position. I expected problems with the sign-extend/rollover of the 24-bit hardware encoder I might have already fixed the encoder

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