Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 31 March 2016 22:15:29 Neil Whelchel wrote: > Update: > I setup my machine to assert motion.feed-inhibit when the spindle > falls below the target RPM. This saved a tool immediately. Within > minutes of starting the test, there was a power surge that caused the > spindle controller to

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-31 Thread Chris Morley
> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:15:29 -0700 > From: neilwhelc...@gmail.com > To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults > > Update: > I setup my machine to assert motion.feed-inhibit when the spindle falls &

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-31 Thread Neil Whelchel
Update: I setup my machine to assert motion.feed-inhibit when the spindle falls below the target RPM. This saved a tool immediately. Within minutes of starting the test, there was a power surge that caused the spindle controller to go off-line and the machine stopped feed, saving the tool. There is

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello, At least with my machine, holding the tap accurately is not an issue. It is a CAT40 size spindle, and I use good quality collets that that have the square hole at the bottom that the square end of the tap fits into. They use in insert to compress around the shank that is like a really short

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 March 2016 11:04:16 andy pugh wrote: > On 29 March 2016 at 15:55, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Unfortunately, it appears you can't get any closer to the actual > > product than that link as I can't find a page listing what size fits > > what, or the cost per. > > I clicked the link for A

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 March 2016 06:56:33 Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > > I have searched the net, but have largely come up empty when looking > > for a tap holder that actually grabs the square on the butt of the > > tap. If I was a tool maker trying to design such a beast, I would > > first try to convince

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 March 2016 at 15:55, Gene Heskett wrote: > Unfortunately, it appears you can't get any closer to the actual product > than that link as I can't find a page listing what size fits what, or > the cost per. I clicked the link for ANSI sized, then found a part number, then Googled that, and fo

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 March 2016 06:46:21 andy pugh wrote: > On 29 March 2016 at 09:40, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I have searched the net, but have largely come up empty when looking > > for a tap holder that actually grabs the square on the butt of the > > tap > > http://www.rego-fix.com/en/home/products/

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 March 2016 06:22:47 Kenneth Lerman wrote: > My Tapmatic tapping heads seem to hold taps just fine. If I recall > correctly (I'll look in the shop later), they have two mechanisms: > 1 -- A vise like mechanism that closes on the flat sides of the square > -- that provides the driving

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> I have searched the net, but have largely come up empty when looking for > a tap holder that actually grabs the square on the butt of the tap. If > I was a tool maker trying to design such a beast, I would first try to > convince the tap makes to standardize the square. I have close to 60 >

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 March 2016 at 09:40, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I have searched the net, but have largely come up empty when looking for > a tap holder that actually grabs the square on the butt of the tap http://www.rego-fix.com/en/home/products/collets-reduction-sleeves-tapping-collets/er-tapping-collets/p

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread Kenneth Lerman
My Tapmatic tapping heads seem to hold taps just fine. If I recall correctly (I'll look in the shop later), they have two mechanisms: 1 -- A vise like mechanism that closes on the flat sides of the square -- that provides the driving power 2 -- A rubber flex collet -- that provides the alignment S

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 29 March 2016 03:25:55 Neil Whelchel wrote: > Hello everyone, > Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions. To me the tap > is not the issue, a broken tap in a hole IS an issue, so it is all > about not breaking the tap if the spindle faults out. As long as the > axis stays s

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
> wrote: > > > When the machine is doing a spindle synchronized operation such > > > as tapping, this causes the motion sync to be broken as well as the > > > tap! > > > > Does motion.feed-inhibit sound like what you need? > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/motion.9.html > > Butting in

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-29 Thread Neil Whelchel
Hello everyone, Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions. To me the tap is not the issue, a broken tap in a hole IS an issue, so it is all about not breaking the tap if the spindle faults out. As long as the axis stays slaved to the spindle, the tap can be removed by hand. There is not

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-28 Thread EBo
On Mar 28 2016 5:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 28 March 2016 15:49:49 andy pugh wrote: > >> On 28 March 2016 at 20:31, Neil Whelchel > wrote: >> > When the machine is doing a spindle synchronized operation such >> > as tapping, this causes the motion sync to be broken as well as >> the >

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 28 March 2016 15:49:49 andy pugh wrote: > On 28 March 2016 at 20:31, Neil Whelchel wrote: > > When the machine is doing a spindle synchronized operation such > > as tapping, this causes the motion sync to be broken as well as the > > tap! > > Does motion.feed-inhibit sound like what yo

Re: [Emc-developers] Properly dealing with spindle faults

2016-03-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 March 2016 at 20:31, Neil Whelchel wrote: > When the machine is doing a spindle synchronized operation such > as tapping, this causes the motion sync to be broken as well as the tap! Does motion.feed-inhibit sound like what you need? http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/motion.9.html