RE: Compliance Primer

2002-07-30 Thread Michael Mertinooke
I took a similar tack, except for 5, 6, and 7, and he quietly moved on to pressure another department. Best regards, Dave Lorusso Lorusso Technologies, LLC Hah. You expect us to believe you never did a Number Seven? We know you better than that Dave, you sly dog, you. =] And you are

RE: Compliance Primer

2002-07-30 Thread Dave Lorusso
Jim, This really brightened up my day, especially number 7. It's good to see a sense of humor in this, sometimes, very serious forum. By the way, I totally agree with you - Directors and above cannot be trusted. I once worked for one who wanted to understand the product safety process so he

Re: Suffocation hazard

2002-07-30 Thread Nick Williams
I've looked into this in the past, and there appears to be no legislation. There is a guide to appropriate wording in BS 1133 section 21:1991 but, frankly, this falls far short of a useable specification for safety markings on bags. Most retailers also want to see perforations, and some

Re: Compliance Primer

2002-07-30 Thread Cortland Richmond
I've used the approach that one doesn't design compliance IN, one designs non-compliance OUT. People who have the view that EMI reduction is a matter of filters, shields and spring fingers, find out, if they don't know already, that this is the expensive way to do things. They become more

Re: Compliance Primer

2002-07-30 Thread Doug McKean
The last thing you want to do as a compliance engineer under such circumstances is to appear as something of a Compliance Cop. This will drive an impenetrable wedge between you and literally anyone in management. Most probably what James says is correct - the director is looking for

RE: A2LA Equivalent

2002-07-30 Thread John Juhasz
Scott, Here's a couple of accreditation bodies to consider. One is the 'European co-operation of Accreditation' (EA) http://www.european-accreditation.org/ The description from their site: Until now, the branches of European national accreditation bodies have been handled separately by EAC

Suffocation hazard

2002-07-30 Thread Tyra, John
Hello all, I am in the process of reviewing the plastic bags we use to package our products and have a old 100th generation copy of an excerpt from a California Business and Professions Code which implies that plastic bags less than a mil thick need to have a warning marking. Does anyone have

RE: A2LA Equivalent

2002-07-30 Thread Carpentier Kristiaan
Scott, Every country in Europe has its own accreditation authority. Belgium: BELTEST Netherlands: RvA France: COFRAC Germany: DAR UK: UKAS Regards, Kris Carpentier -Original Message- From: scott@jci.com [mailto:scott@jci.com] Sent: dinsdag 30 juli 2002 15:49 To:

A2LA Equivalent

2002-07-30 Thread Scott . Mee
Thank you to all that replied, you've been most helpful, as usual. __ To All, What is the European equivalent to A2LA here in the U.S.? Thank you. Best Regards, Scott Mee Johnson Controls Inc. Automotive Systems Group EMC Product Compliance 616.394.2565

RE: IEC 60601-1

2002-07-30 Thread Peter Merguerian
Pierre, Various engineers within a test house evaluate products differently due to their own interpretations. The 60601 series of standards have not been designed to accomodate the high voltages occuring within switching power supplies. The standards are currently being worked on to incorporate

RE: A2LA Equivalent

2002-07-30 Thread Benoit Nadeau
Bonjour de Montreal, It depends which country in Europe you're seeking information for, each country has a least one accreditation body that is a signatory of Mutual Recognition Agreements and is part of EA (European co-operation for accreditation, http://www.european-accreditation.org/). For

e-labeling

2002-07-30 Thread Massey, Doug C.
Group, Thanks for the responses I got to my inquiry regarding 'e-labeling' - using the product itself to display regulatory information. I got fewer responses than I had hoped. One responder mentioned that as an OEM, he had a lot of headaches from a large PC manufacturer who used an

Re: Compliance Primer

2002-07-30 Thread James Collum
Reason I ask is I had these questions posed to me by one of our directors. He wants to learn about compliance. I was caught flat footed. How do you explain what took you 19 years to learn? And that you really don't know as much as you think? I showed him my stack of

RE: A2LA Equivalent

2002-07-30 Thread Garry Hojan
Hi Scott, I didn't post to group on that last reply, so I'm resending. I believe if you are speaking of accreditations, NVLAP/NIST would be an equivalent. Best regards, Garry Hojan CEO/ President Strategic Compliance Services (SCS) a Division of NRL, L.L.C. 11402 E Mariposa Rd. Stockton, CA

RE: A2LA Equivalent

2002-07-30 Thread Mark Schmidt
Hi Scott, Our UK office has inquired to us about NAMAS accreditation. I think possibly EN45001 and EN45002 may also apply. Good Luck, Mark Schmidt Regulatory Compliance X-Rite Incorporated Grandville, MI USA (616) 257 2469 mschm...@xrite.com -Original Message- From:

Re: Recommendation for Safety Standard

2002-07-30 Thread LeeSchmitz
Barbara, If you want a UL Listing of this device, UL will be the one to determine which standard. My guess is that most of the requirements would come from UL Standard 1081 Swimming Pool pumps, filters, and chlorinators. Good Luck, Lee Schmitz ---

A2LA Equivalent

2002-07-30 Thread Scott . Mee
To All, What is the European equivalent to A2LA here in the U.S.? Thank you. Best Regards, Scott Mee Johnson Controls Inc. Automotive Systems Group EMC Product Compliance 616.394.2565 scott@jci.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society

Re: GR 1089

2002-07-30 Thread John Barnes
Sam, The key phrase is free-space wave impedance. At the source, the wave impedance matches the impedance of the driving circuit. The electric fields and magnetic fields interact (near-field conditions), working toward the free-space wave impedance of about 377 ohms. The impedance actually

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-30 Thread John Barnes
Chris, You may want to look at some of the polymer aluminum electrolytic capacitors from: * Cornell Dubilier. * Elna. * Jaro Components. * Kemet. * Matsushita. * NIC Components Corporation. * Nichicon. * Panasonic. * Samchung. * SDK. * etc. I've used them on the last two controller

RE: FCC and Professional Scanner : Verification or certification

2002-07-30 Thread reheller
Not necessarily, you may want to cost reduce the product in the future and may need the 'A' to 'B' overhead. Bob Heller 3M Product Safety, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 =

Re: Electronic Rule Compliance??

2002-07-30 Thread Neil Helsby
Hi Brian, Go back and ask the customer what the requirement means. It is not unusual for contracts to be written by people who do not have experience in all matters pertaining to a specific contract. It appears that sometimes they pick-up a phrase that sounds good but they do not understand,

Re: Compliance Primer

2002-07-30 Thread Lou Aiken
Scott, I always preferred to keep it simple. Compliance is developing a product that complies with specific requirements stated in applicable national or international standards developed by recognized experts. We comply with those standards because that is what our customer base expects of

Re: Scott/Primer

2002-07-30 Thread SOUNDSURFR
This is a topic that can be of great benefit to a lot of people. I've had extensive experience communicating this topic to managers and execs throughout my career, and there is a logical approach that I've adopted which seems to work well. First, there are three major components of any

Re: GR 1089

2002-07-30 Thread Ken Javor
I am not familiar with GR 1089, but assuming there are electric field emission limits from 60 Hz to 30 MHz, the magnetic field limit would then be the electric field limit minus the free space conversion factor. The magnetic limit would be independent of the electric field emissions, it depends

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-30 Thread T.Sato
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:41:32 -0400, Chris Maxwell chris.maxw...@nettest.com wrote: One of my colleagues is testing a new design. He has designed a buck-boost switching converter which has tantalum output capacitors. We have looked at his design and gone through the calculations. His

RE: Scott/primer

2002-07-30 Thread Jim Bacher
If you happen to take this on, please consider presenting this at some of the PSTC meetings around the country/world or at least at the Safety Sessions at the 2003 IEEE EMC Symposium. As for my two cents, the concern is always cost of the certifications. The real question is How much does it

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-30 Thread Doug McKean
Been a while, but the voices from a former life in my head are reminding me of something to the effect that rated ripple current of cap is based on a perfect sine wave of ripple. Any other type of waveform can drastically effect that rating. SuperLo ESR caps were used one time to solve

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-30 Thread Cortland Richmond
When we started seeing 50 volt caps blowing up on a 5 volt output it became evident that the problem _we_ had, instant mortality (grin), was over-current, not over-voltage. We didn't actually see a voltage transient - a 'scope had in fact ruled that out - but someone in management had apparently

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-30 Thread Scott Douglas
Chris, I've had this same problem over the years with many man hours spent looking for why. We changed to 35 and 50 V parts to good effect in some cases. Other cases were not so easy. I like Cortland's idea the problem is charge current at turn-on. We had a 5 output 350 watt supply and there