Re:RE: Fire Enclosure Design for NiCad Batteries

2002-12-17 Thread brian_kunde
Don't forget about the impact tests. These batteries are not known for taking much impact without damage. Being that it is warn, I would subject the pack/belt to all impact tests including those for hand held devices. How are the battery pack recharged? While it is still in the belt? This

High Voltage Relay HELP!!!

2002-12-10 Thread brian_kunde
Happy Holidays Group, Let me set the scene for you: We have a piece of laboratory equipment that has a 10,000 volt low current power supply that puts a high potential onto a small metal sample as it is being tested. When the operator opens a door to remove the sample we have to turn off the

ReIssue: RE: When CE doesn't pass

2002-11-22 Thread brian_kunde
Thanks to everyone who responded to my earlier email. After reading the replies, I wanted to rephrase and clarify our situation to see if it matters. We design, manufacture, and market stand-a-lone Product A. But some of our customers want a complete turn-key system. So we purchase and

When CE doesn't pass

2002-11-21 Thread brian_kunde
Has this ever happened to you? We manufacture analysis instrumentation equipment. The part we make is usually part of a complex system made up of other CE marked equipment from many different suppliers. Sometimes when we have a system tested for CE (emissions and immunity), one of the other

Re:RE: EN61000-3-3 -3-11 off topic a bit!

2002-10-31 Thread brian_kunde
I was just looking through my new copy of IEC61000-3-3:1994+A1:2001 standard. Under section 1 SCOPE, in the forth paragraph, it refers to the 3-11 standard this way; Part 3-11 is applicable to equipment with rated input current less than or equal to 75 A per phase and subject to conditional

What's the latest with Ni-Cad Batteries?

2002-10-29 Thread brian_kunde
Greetings all, One of our Engineering Teams wants to use a NiCad battery pack in an upcoming product (laboratory instrument). I'm suppose to become an expert on Worldwide Environmental Impact of NiCad batteries in 24 hours so I can give a report in a meeting (haven't we all been there before?).

Relays in Over Temperature Protection Circuits

2002-10-11 Thread brian_kunde
Greeting to all, Our company makes Laboratory Instrumentation which many employs a small furnace. In case the furnace control circuit fails, we have a secondary Over Temperature Protection Circuit (OTPC) which opens a double pole relay to shut power off to the heater coils. In a new design we

USB Immunity Specs??

2002-09-18 Thread brian_kunde
Dear Group, Our Engineering Department thinks that USB is the worlds best interface. Though it has a lot going for it, I'm not sure if is all that, but never the less, I'm seeing it used to control and interface with commercial and industrial instrumentation requiring the more severe immunity

Liquid Nitrogen Safety

2002-08-05 Thread brian_kunde
Greetings all, We are designing an instrument for laboratory use that will use liquid nitrogen. We will need to design our own dewar system too. Being new to the use of liquid nitrogen we want to make sure we apply all the necessary safety requirements to our product. We have searched the

Electronic Rule Compliance??

2002-07-29 Thread brian_kunde
Hello Group, We have been asked by a customer in Ireland to provide them with a letter stating our drive to Electronic Rule Compliance; stating the current version of the software available and when we expect to be fully compliant. We are a laboratory equipment company and have never seen this

Re[2]: Non-metallic tables.

2002-07-02 Thread brian_kunde
Gary, If cost is not a big factor, try contacting Sunol in California. The contact I have is Dale Guthery at (925) 485-9260 (but I haven't talked to them in several years). I know a few years ago the were selling EMC test tables based on a design of ours which had wheels that could be easily

Re:Transient Voltage Suppressor - Europe approvals?

2002-06-19 Thread brian_kunde
Michael, I maters if you are trying to place suppressors across the line or from line to chassis. Here is a copy of something you might find useful. Brian Kunde LECO Corp. Transient Suppressors according to EN60950 CCA doc section 1.5 ACROSS THE MAINS Transient suppressors can be connected

Re:Varistor to Ground

2002-04-19 Thread brian_kunde
Dan, This information was in a TUV Newsletter last year. Brian Transient Suppressors according to EN60950 CCA doc section 1.5 ACROSS THE MAINS Transient suppressors can be connected across the mains if it is separately approved to IEC 1051-1 and IEC 1051-2 (or CECC 42200). If it is not

Re:LISN Impedance

2002-03-27 Thread brian_kunde
Tom, I know what you mean. Though the tolerance is quite large, it is most difficult to get real numbers from the graph in the ANSI standard. What I did was lookup the Impedance Data for my LISNs that I got from the manufacturer. These are Real Numbers that I use as a baseline to compare my

Re:RE: ESD Generator confidence test

2002-02-26 Thread brian_kunde
We also have come up with a simple way to test our ESD gun, but it requires the help from our lab assistant (lab managers work good too). First, have them take off their shoes and socks and stand on the Ground Reference Plan. Have them wet their fingers and grab the end of the ESD gun. Crank

USB Interface and Cables

2002-02-14 Thread brian_kunde
Greetings, We have an analyzer that is controlled by a standard PC through the USB interface. When performing Fast Transient Burst test on the analyzer (according to EN61000-4-4 Level 3) at 2KV the USB communications goes down and does not recover without re-powering up the unit. We found that

Re:RE: Pre-amps

2001-11-15 Thread brian_kunde
Keep in mind that the location of the pre-amp can make a big difference too. If you are trying to make up for cable loss, the best place to put the pre-amp is near the antenna, before the loss occurs. Some labs mount one of those small amp-modules right on the antenna but you have to run DC

Re:Pre-amps

2001-11-14 Thread brian_kunde
If you want to save some money, try Mini-Circuits. http://www.minicircuits.com/ We use one of their amps as a pre-amp to our receiver (don't have the model number handy). It give us about 22db gain from 10Mhz-2Ghz. Works good and it cost hundreds, not thousands of dollars. Beware! What you

UL2725 UL2835 on USB cables

2001-10-23 Thread brian_kunde
Greetings, We are looking for a good quality 10 foot USB cable. We have an application where the USB cable must have a low impedance in the shield and shield termination to pass the emissions and immunity tests for Europe. Not knowing much about USB I did some research on the Web and USB

In-line Fuses

2001-06-26 Thread brian_kunde
We have an application where an In-Line Fuse would be an easy fit to a problem. The fuse and holder would be added to an existing internal cable harness in a piece of Lab Equipment (EN61010-1 for safety). The wire that needs the fuse has 120 Volts ACrms and we need to limit the current to 5

Re:Stuck in Germany!

2001-05-03 Thread brian_kunde
Peter, I have some input on the HiPot Test #3. A HiPot Failure is a breakdown in insulation usually by an arc or other rapid conduction. Most HiPot testers these days have detection circuits which can tell how the unit failed. Mine shows on the display either ARC or Breakdown. HiPot testers

Re:markings

2001-01-26 Thread brian_kunde
Brian, Check out the following web site: http://w3.hike.te.chiba-u.ac.jp/iec417/ver2.0/html/index.html It has the IEC417 on-line. I think the AC symbol you are referring to is No. 417-IEC-5032 Brian Reply Separator Subject:markings Author: Brian

Cost of EMC Testing

2001-01-25 Thread brian_kunde
All this talk about Test Labs has got me thinking about the cost for EMC Testing for CE marking. I know test labs have become more competitive over the last few years but am I paying too much? I know that the cost depends on many factors such as the size of the EUT and how many

Re:Grounding

2000-12-06 Thread brian_kunde
Hello Praveen, The topic in which your question addresses is Grounding. Grounding is one of the most complex topics EMC engineers have to deal with especially in a design that has both Analog and Digital circuitry. Most every case is different and there are thousands of variables to consider.

Re:RE: How does RF travel through outer space?

2000-12-01 Thread brian_kunde
Wow! Great Responses. So much history I was not aware of. Great analogies too. Thanks to everyone who responded. Brian --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your

Re:RE2: Speed Measuring Devices

2000-11-16 Thread brian_kunde
I have heard of several people fighting a ticket with claims of the radar gun not working or being used right. In all cases they lost (all people I know). I wish you luck and please let us know how it turned out. Looking at it from their side, if a Judge ruled that the radar (or laser) guns

Overcurrent Protection: One or Both Sides?

2000-10-06 Thread brian_kunde
The issue of designing in Overcurrent Protection on one side or both sides of the AC mains keeps coming up. We deal in Laboratory Equipment so the EN 61010-1 is the standard we use. I'm not sure what EN60950 would say on the subject. The only area I have found that deals with this question is

16 amps per phase?

1999-04-05 Thread brian_kunde
Members, IEC 1000-4-11 is for equipment 16 amps per phase or less. We are looking to purchase an AC power source that will perform this test as well as the IEC 1000-4-13, 4-14, and 4-28. I don't have copies of these standards. Do these other standard have a current limit of 16 amps like the

RE: Ferrite pads vendors

1999-03-31 Thread brian_kunde
TDK sent me several sheets of Ferrite material as samples. The material is very flexible and can be cut to any shape with scissors. I do not know if TDK provides this material in pre-cut sizes for IC Chips or have it available with PSA. I have not had an opportunity to try this material so I

RE: Awards for Worst EMC/PS qualities

1999-03-12 Thread brian_kunde
Regulatory Management Humor from a past employer. Like most companies, the Regulatory department was considered a bottleneck in the development cycle. Our Director (that's right, we had a Director of Regulatory Compliance) always fought to get prototypes into our lab as soon as possible to speed

RE: worst emc problem contest

1999-03-12 Thread brian_kunde
Wasn't Apollo 11 the one that was struck by lightning during launch? My hat is off to all you NASA guys. Brian -- From: Lou Gnecco l...@tempest-inc.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 3:47 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:worst emc problem contest Hello members!

RE: Awards for Worst EMC/PS qualities

1999-03-11 Thread brian_kunde
In the early 1980's, I worked for a company that manufactured PCs and peripherals. I worked in a Functional Testing Lab where we ran functional tests on our new designs before allowing them to go to production. I was testing a dot matrix printer which our company purchased the electronics and

CE Requirements for Marine equipment

1998-12-15 Thread brian_kunde
A company I'm representing manufacturers Engine Panels and Pilot House Controls for boats, yachts, and tankers. Most of the components in these assemblies are gauges and mechanical controls, but some incorporate electronic gauges and controls. On a recent contract with a European boat

FW: Harmonic Distortion Test 16 amp/phase

1998-12-04 Thread brian_kunde
Our company builds laboratory equipment. Some of our products draws less than 16 amp per phase and some draws more (currently up to 45 amps). We wish to purchase the test equipment to perform the EN61000-3-2 test but have held off not knowing what requirements might show up in the future

Harmonic Distortion Test 16 amp/phase

1998-12-02 Thread brian_kunde
Our company builds laboratory equipment. Some of our products draws less than 16 amp per phase and some draws more (currently up to 45 amps). We wish to purchase the test equipment to perform the EN61000-3-2 test but have held off not knowing what requirements might show up in the future

EN61000-4-3 Hints and Tips

1998-12-02 Thread brian_kunde
It's that time of year again where our lab must perform the dreaded Calibration of Field test for the EN61000-4-3 standard Radiated Immunity. If you performed the test as explained in the standard (section 6) moving the Field Probe to each of the 16 positions for each frequency for both vertical

Hi-Pot Failure

1998-07-15 Thread brian_kunde
Our company manufacturers a test instrument that contains a small furnace. The furnace assembly consist of a heating element encapsulated in a silica based cube. The cube provides temperature and electrical insulation. Our production units have recently

Capacitor Discharge Tool?

1998-07-08 Thread brian_kunde
Does anyone know if a tool exists that can be used to safely discharge a stored charge in a capacitor (used in power supplies and RF generators)? Such a tool should have an adjustable resistance value and some kind of indicator when the potential has been reduced to

Ion Generators

1998-04-15 Thread brian_kunde
I have been asked to investigate the safety of a household Air Cleaning device which uses an RF ION Generator to produce a low level Ozone. The manufacturer of this device provided me with a CSA Certificate that quotes the following standards: CSA Std C22.2No.

Re: Comb Generator

1998-01-08 Thread brian_kunde
Hi Barry, Long time no here from. EMCO sells two models: Model 4610 Royce Field Site Source works from 10Mhz - 600Mhz at a cost of around $2055 US. They make a better one Model 4630 RefRad Reference Radiator that works from 10Khz to 1 Ghz at a cost around $3895 US. The better model has a .1%

Re: golden computers

1997-06-26 Thread Brian_Kunde
HP Vectra computer has very good margin. That is what I use. I have more trouble with monitors than computers. I found the NEC Multisync XV17+ monitor is very good. HP Inkjet printers have been a good quiet peripheral in the past but a Deskjet 680C I recently tested had high peak levels when

Self Declare to FCC-B

1997-06-17 Thread Brian_Kunde
My company manufactures products that do no legally have to have FCC. Because of the EMC directive in Europe we are testing our products and self declaring compliance to EN55011 class B. Our products also comply to the FCC class B requirements but we do not wish

Re: Can someone identify this ferrite?

1997-04-11 Thread Brian_Kunde
Phil, KG parts are supplied in the US by: IM Intermark (USA), Inc One Penn Plaza-Suite 4526 New York, NY 10119-0001 (212) 629-3620 (212) 967-3948 fax The person I deal with is Cristian Radu (Sales Engineer). Hope this helps,