Re: Probe Kit

2001-05-16 Thread Ken Javor
The set only costs about $750 with the preamp, per my recollection (maybe a few years old). About $300 w/o the amp. And they aren't individually calibrated, they are troubleshooting tools. You could easily build your own. -- From: Darrell Locke dlo...@advanced-input.com To: 'EMC

Equipment for sale

2001-05-16 Thread John Coyle
Hello, I apologise if this is an inappropriate topic for the list however my company has a Thermotron vibration system for sale. The system is a Thermotron model DS-640-979 with a dynamic centring table. It is fully functional but has no UL/CSA certification. The sale is on an as is/where is

Re: Protective Bonding-UL 60950 (replacement for UL 1950)

2001-05-16 Thread Lou Aiken
Kurt, be aware that IF the insulation between all parts of the hinged door and any uninsulated part operating at hazardous voltage will fully meet the requirements for reinforced (or double) insulation (hipot, creepage distance, clearance, insulation thickness etc.) grounding the hinged door is

Probe Kit

2001-05-16 Thread Darrell Locke
To All, Does anyone know where in the US I can rent an EMCO 7405 Probe Set. I have been trying many rental companies ( such as Telogy), and they either don't stock them or are out. Much appeciated, Darrell Locke Advanced Input Devices --- This message

Disconnect Devices for Telecom Equipment

2001-05-16 Thread Richard Meyette
Here's a question for you telecom experts: Paragraph 2.6.3 of UL 1950 (Third Edition) requires permanently connected equipment, that is not provided with a disconnect device, to include a statement in the installation instructions that an appropriate disconnect device shall be provided as part of

Re: EMCD query

2001-05-16 Thread John Woodgate
EDFA411E5E4AD2118D6F00A0C99E4BAC0386AD75@FLBOCEXU02, wo...@sensormatic.com wrote: You said that placing on the market took place when the products were transferred from the manufacturing plant to the warehouse even if both locations were owned by the same company. I had said that the warehouse

Re: Protective Bonding-UL 60950 (replacement for UL 1950)

2001-05-16 Thread John Woodgate
B5F8965F4EC6174A99F200AB685E518C2EDC10@tsntexch.tracewell, Andrews, Kurt kandr...@tracewell.com wrote: However, it is permitted to use a single self-tapping screw provided that the thickness of the metal part at the point where the screw is threaded into it is a minimum of 0,9 mm for a screw of

Re: Chinese Transmitter Approval

2001-05-16 Thread Leslie Bai
Richard, We have been dealing with Chinese authority for radio type approval in the past a few years. They requires that radios being imported into the country go through authorized representative located in their country. As part of approval process, manufacturer need provide a letter stating

Protective Bonding-UL 60950 (replacement for UL 1950)

2001-05-16 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Hi group, We are designing a new piece of class I equipment to be evaluated under UL 60950 (replaced UL 1950). The equipment has a metal enclosure. It has a metal access panel that is hinged at the bottom with a piano type hinge. It is secured at the top by two screws. This panel is hinged so

Re: US Mains Plug/Earthing

2001-05-16 Thread Andrew Carson
If the equipment is for work place use you have the OSHA requirements for it to be NRTL listed. Which will mean it must meet a standard (ANSI/UL/IEC etc) and hence need an earthed plug. Then the National Electric Code, requires all equipment plagued into the domestic supply to be NRTL listed, so

RE: US Mains Plug/Earthing

2001-05-16 Thread John Juhasz
Hmmm . . . you didn't specify the category of equipment, but from the perspective the UL standard 1950 (ITE) Clause 1.2.4.1 defines Class I equipment as: Equipment where protection against electric shock is achieved by: a) using BASIC INSULATION, AND also b) providing a means of connecting the

Re: US Mains Plug/Earthing

2001-05-16 Thread Rich Nute
I am in the UK, a customer in USA wants us to fit 2 pin mains plugs to the Class 1 appliances he is going to be buying from us. He is very firm that there are no regulations in US that requires this to be so. Is that true? The simple answer is that there is no regulation

Re: US Mains Plug/Earthing

2001-05-16 Thread georgea
Enci, Simply put, any electrical appliance marketed in the U.S. should conform to UL standards. You did not state what type of product this is, so I cannot say what standards apply. However, in general, I would be very surprised if any UL standard permitted a two wire plug on a Class 1

RE: US Mains Plug/Earthing

2001-05-16 Thread WOODS
Your customer is misinformed and nuts! Why would anyone want to endanger his customers? The short answer is that the National Electrical Code which is adopted virtually everywhere in the US requires equipment to be Listed. And you can be virtually assured that no agency is going to List that

US Mains Plug/Earthing

2001-05-16 Thread Enci
I am in the UK, a customer in USA wants us to fit 2 pin mains plugs to the Class 1 appliances he is going to be buying from us. He is very firm that there are no regulations in US that requires this to be so. Is that true? Thank you. --- This message is

RE: EMCD query

2001-05-16 Thread Colgan, Chris
Just to clarify what you are saying A product can be considered placed on the market when it is sold to your own wholly owned distribution company provided that company is in the EU. Presumably the goods have to be in a finished state and packed etc. It would not be good enough to place

Re: China

2001-05-16 Thread georgea
Richard, You cannot go wrong if you comply to IEC 60950 for both ITE and power supplies for ITE. To my knowledge, the China standard is identical to IEC except that testing is done to +10/-10 percent vs. the usual +6/-10. If the units are made in China for use in China, you need CCEE

Li-ion Batteries

2001-05-16 Thread Koh N. G.
Greeting everyone, Can anyone advice on the requirement for Li-ion batteries? We are currently designing a prototable device which has Li-ion batteries built within. The battery is being charged via AC-to-DC adaptor. We are purchasing the Li-ion batteries from suppliers. There will be safety

Lightning surge data for coaxial lines

2001-05-16 Thread Peter G Schreiner III
I am looking for lightning surge data for suspended coaxial lines, hardline and braid. To date, I have only located one study that specifically obtained data on suspended coaxial lines. I must be looking in the wrong places, since there seem to be many studies of the nature and effects of

Re: PC power supply with PFC

2001-05-16 Thread John Woodgate
nebbjkpamlaglbmfcdnnielhceaa.jo...@medson.com, Jon Griver jo...@medson.com inimitably wrote: To the best of my knowledge, EU regulations do not require power factor correction. What is required under the EMC directive is compliance with EN61000-3-2, the standard for limitation of harmonic current

RE: EMCD query

2001-05-16 Thread WOODS
Georg, we appeared to have a difference of opinion. You said that placing on the market took place when the products were transferred from the manufacturing plant to the warehouse even if both locations were owned by the same company. I had said that the warehouse could not be under the same

Chinese Transmitter Approval

2001-05-16 Thread WOODS
Has anyone received a radio type approval in China? How did you go about the process? I am particularly interested in short range (low power) device type approval. Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical

Re: EMCD query

2001-05-16 Thread John Woodgate
d74c689b5f7fd211887700e0292651ec08287...@scatrnte01.canada.ncr.com, Mowbray, John H jm134...@exchange.canada.ncr.com wrote: If these products are in a European warehouse then they can be sold as they are presently in the distribution system, but if the warehouse is outside of the EU then they

ETS 300 019-2-4:1994

2001-05-16 Thread Zohar Zosmanovich
To all who have worked with ETS 300 019-2-4:1994 (Specification of environmental tests Stationary use at non-weather protected location). I need to define operating temperature range for an outdoor unit (not solar protected and heat radiation). In paragraph 3.2 Table 2 , under Characteristic

RE: EMCD query

2001-05-16 Thread Georg M. Dancau
Hallo all, I think the answer to this question is quite simple (see Art 3 EMCD) Member States shall take all appropriate measures to ensure that apparatus as referred to in Article 2 may be placed on the market or taken into service only if it complies with the requirements

Telephony or Product Safety Requirements for Japan

2001-05-16 Thread Brooks, Barbara
-Original Message- From: Brooks, Barbara Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:14 PM To: 'EMC Post' Subject: Telephony or Product Safety Requirements for Japan I have a customer who has inquired about both product safety and telephony requirements for an in-line

RE: EMCD query

2001-05-16 Thread Mowbray, John H
If these products are in a European warehouse then they can be sold as they are presently in the distribution system, but if the warehouse is outside of the EU then they must comply with the new requiremetns to be sold after July 1, 2001. John Mowbray, P. Eng. Senior EMC Engineer NCR Canada,

RE: PC power supply with PFC

2001-05-16 Thread Jon Griver
Peter, To the best of my knowledge, EU regulations do not require power factor correction. What is required under the EMC directive is compliance with EN61000-3-2, the standard for limitation of harmonic current emissions. There is, of course, an indirect relationship between power factor and

Re: EMCD query

2001-05-16 Thread John Woodgate
EDFA411E5E4AD2118D6F00A0C99E4BAC0386AD71@FLBOCEXU02, wo...@sensormatic.com wrote: 2. Obtain an opinion from a Competent Body that the as is product is compliant with the essential requirements This may not work if you intend to ship product to several countries. At least, your Declaration of

Re: EMCD query

2001-05-16 Thread John Woodgate
ofcc6020b2.36b5e62f-on07256a4d.006b6...@hypercom.com, Ron Pickard rpick...@hypercom.com wrote: It has just come to my knowledge that a sizable quantity lot of finshed ITE products have been built and being stored in a warehouse. These products, facing obsolesence, are 100% compliant with the