Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-12-03 Thread Charlie Blackham
It's covered in the Europa Interpretation of the RTTE Directive: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/documents/interpretation/index_en.htm#h2-23 regards Charlie -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 30 November 2012 19:01 To:

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-12-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message 3f0347ac6ed9504191f91f07629fbb0c01503...@thhsle14mbx2.hslive.net, dated Mon, 3 Dec 2012, Charlie Blackham char...@sulisconsultants.com writes: It?s covered in the Europa Interpretation of the RTTE Directive:

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-12-03 Thread Michael Derby
Hello, I think that in the past, there was always the general understanding that a full copy of the DoC must be supplied with each device sold. However, more and more people are simply adding a statement to their user manual to state something like: This device complies with the relevant

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-12-03 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
John Woodgate wrote (actually cited): Article 6 3. of the RTTED says: 3. Member States shall ensure that the manufacturer or the person responsible for placing the apparatus on the market provides information for the user on the intended use of the apparatus, together with the declaration of

Re: [PSES] Language Translations for EU Declarations of Conformity (DOCs)

2012-12-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA489140B6B@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Mon, 3 Dec 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: 3. Member States shall ensure that the manufacturer or the person responsible for placing the apparatus on the market provides

Re: [PSES] MIL STD 461F RE103 Appendix A.5.18.3

2012-12-03 Thread Cortland Richmond
I had to take a closer look at your question and at the standard. You don't have to worry about the bench, chamber, cabling and LISN's (see Figure 2) when you bring a transmitter into the chamber for CE106. The exemption also means you don't have to take a transmitter out of an armored

[PSES] IEC 60601-1-2 autoranging supplies

2012-12-03 Thread David
All,   IEC 60601-1-2 requires surge, burst, and dropouts be done at the maximum and minimum rated voltages for autoranging supplies.  We typically test at 90 Vac and 240 Vac.  Many supplies I see now are rated up to 264 Vac though.  Is anyone testing at 264V?  Are there variacs out there to

Re: [PSES] IEC 60601-1-2 autoranging supplies

2012-12-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
Rated by test certificate and CB report, or by the sales dept-infected spec sheet? That is, what is the rating on the unit's label? You can configure most variacs to provide well above the input voltage, but this may do strange stuff to the source impendence. Use a really really really big

[PSES] Empty electrical enclosures in Europe

2012-12-03 Thread Dan Roman
Hi,I am doing some research on what standard(s) might apply to an empty electrical enclosure (the kind used for circuit breaker panels or control equipment). In the USA these would be covered by UL 508 or UL 508A. In Europe I am not sure if I should be looking at the LVD. Maybe the Construction

Re: [PSES] IEC 60601-1-2 autoranging supplies

2012-12-03 Thread Ralph . McDiarmid
It certainly depends on how you rate the product, and what ratings really means. Typically the voltage rating would be marked on the nameplate of the product, but some agencies will go look in the often embellished specifications in the operator manual for the voltage range. Some

Re: [PSES] Empty electrical enclosures in Europe

2012-12-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
Have you looked at EN60439-1? Shows on first page of the galactic emperor's search engine. UL508 and UL508A are not safety standards for enclosures. For NEC and ANSI, there is no single standard for enclosure construction, other than for IP stuff. Note UL1773, UL2017, UL60950, etc. That is,

Re: [PSES] IEC 60601-1-2 autoranging supplies

2012-12-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
The operating/instruction manual is part of the safety submittal/approval process and shall have correct ratings per the Type Test conditions. But sales-infected spec sheets on websites or on advertising brochures are not worthy of notice. Common problem in power industry. If label and manual

Re: [PSES] IEC 60601-1-2 autoranging supplies

2012-12-03 Thread Kunde, Brian
David, The rating verses test voltage falls under the chicken and egg scenario sometimes especially for power supplies. If a product is rated 240V some testing is required at +10% which is 264V. Some power supply companies rate their products up to 264V so their customers know it will handle

Re: [PSES] IEC 60601-1-2 autoranging supplies

2012-12-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message 1354551670.87252.yahoomail...@web160604.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, dated Mon, 3 Dec 2012, David barid61...@yahoo.com writes: IEC 60601-1-2 requires surge, burst, and dropouts be done at the maximum and minimum rated voltages for autoranging supplies.  We typically test at 90 Vac and 240

Re: [PSES] Empty electrical enclosures in Europe

2012-12-03 Thread Kunde, Brian
I admit I don’t know much about this topic, but whenever I purchased switchgear equipment or autotransformers there is always an optional “NEMA 1 Enclosure” I can purchase. I don’t know what makes it a NEMA enclosure, but maybe their website would be a good place to start.

Re: [PSES] Empty electrical enclosures in Europe

2012-12-03 Thread Brian Oconnell
NEMA standard 250. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Kunde, Brian Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 11:21 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Empty electrical enclosures in Europe I admit I don’t know much about this topic, but

Re: [PSES] Empty electrical enclosures in Europe

2012-12-03 Thread McInturff, Gary
NEMA is good for the US, but in Europe they use the IPXX system where the first x describes particle tests (sand and bugs) the second X is for water integrity and can be found in 60529 Degrees of protection provided by enclosures (IP code) NEMA and IPXX are similar but not the same. Gary

[PSES] Fall 2012 EMC Design Newsletter

2012-12-03 Thread Ken Wyatt
Hi All, I just sent out my quarterly EMC Design Newsletter. Contents includes: Product Review - A full hands-on review of the new Rigol DSA815 spectrum analyzer From the Blog (links to various technical articles) New Articles Published - links to several new review and technical/design