Re: [PSES] Secondary creepage/clearance

2022-12-02 Thread Douglas Powell
I've had personal experience with lightning coupled transients to the secondary, strong enough to burn out an office Mr Coffee pot. Interestingly, if you have a transformer in the coupling path and the windings are oriented to normally invert a sine wave, the transient will likely not be inverted.

Re: [PSES] Secondary creepage/clearance

2022-12-02 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Steve: Mains circuits are subject to lightning and switching transients both line-to-neutral and line/neutral-to-ground. The transients are normal; to prevent insulation breakdown and consequential electric shock, the electric strength of mains-to-ground and mains-to-other

[PSES] "how to fish" - UKCA extension legislation

2022-12-02 Thread Lauren Crane
For those keeping score at home on when the UKCA 2yr extension legislation is actually passed, this is how I am tracking Goto https://commonsbusiness.parliament.uk/ Click on HTML or PDF version of "Daily Order Paper" in the "Today's business papers" section. Search on "Metrology" and you

Re: [PSES] Secondary creepage/clearance

2022-12-02 Thread John Woodgate
Sorry, a word missing: , if your best efforts to find a documented rationale to not apply the requirement FAIL, == Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK I hear,

Re: [PSES] Secondary creepage/clearance

2022-12-02 Thread John Woodgate
Very good advice. There is a 'dumb' fallback, if your best efforts to find a documented rationale to not apply the requirement, is to consider how much extra it costs to comply with it, compared to the cost of trying to find a reason not to comply with it. For example, I found that replacing

Re: [PSES] Secondary creepage/clearance

2022-12-02 Thread Joe Randolph
Hi Steve: I work mostly with the 60950-1 and 62368-1 standards for ITE, so I’m not familiar with the details of the requirements in 61010-1. That being said, I’ve seen many cases where someone misinterpreted the creepage/clearance/dielectric requirements in 60950-1 and 62368-1, not

Re: [PSES] Secondary creepage/clearance

2022-12-02 Thread Brian Kunde
The simple answer is that you need to provide creepage and clearance distances in secondary circuits to avoid arcing when the circuit is subjected to the absolute worst case surges and transients that the circuit might see. Since this can be difficult to determine, most people just use the tables