RE: UL Approval in different States

2005-05-18 Thread Bill Bisenius - FastWave
Here is one possible market driven scenario: Power Tool - sold by Home Depot, etc. = Home Depot requires certification on everything electrical they sell = Tool mfg. gets certification for battery operated tool so they can sell via Home Depot. Cell Phone - sold by Cell phone carriers and small

RE: Blocked ventillation testing

2003-11-25 Thread FastWave
Having worked at UL for many years in ITE, and having been the UL seminar leader for ITE for several years, blocking vents during on one side only was always the rule/what we taught = one fault at a time. Of course the years have been adding on since my days at UL so things may have changed. I

RE: Fault condition test UL 60950

2003-10-23 Thread FastWave
Any single fault that could possibly result in a shock hazard and/or a fire hazard should be fault tested. Close analysis of the electrical schematic can help determine which faults could raise voltage levels in accessible circuits above the shock hazard level and/or are located such that they

RE: fan question

2003-09-17 Thread FastWave
Dave, No, you don't need to defeat a certified fan during fault tests. The general rule of thumb in the product safety standards is one abnormal at a time. You also like to see reliable repeatable means for terminating a fault condition (i.e. certified protective device). As such, non-certified

RE: Hi-Pot testing

2003-08-28 Thread FastWave
Chris, I wasn't real clear on what was breaking during your hipot test. However, these comments might help: 1) Be sure you are hipot testing with a DC test voltage. AC testing can damage your Y capacitors. DC test voltage = peak of AC test voltage = 1.414 x AC test voltage. 2) If your product

RE: IE C60601-1 table 16

2003-08-14 Thread FastWave
Brian, Working voltage is determined in the same manner as 950, 1010, etc. A special consideration is that you may have to consider the possibility of any patient connection being earthed. Table 16: The first row titled “equivalent to Basic insulation between parts of opposite polarity” is

RE: 94V-0 question

2003-08-12 Thread FastWave
1. You have already received many good material suggestions from by others but do you really need 94V-0? I believe that most standards will allow 94V-2 for this purpose (assuming it provides the necessary creepage clearance distances and passes the dielectric strength test). 2. If the enclosure

RE: Hipot question

2003-08-06 Thread FastWave
Dave, Your questions combine two tests: 1) There are no leakage current limits during hipot testing. The hipot test seeks insulation breakdowns (insulating materials air), not excessive current through filter capacitors. The 3.5 mA leakage current limit refers to the separate Leakage Current

RE: More Odd Standards (To me anyway)

2003-07-15 Thread FastWave
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Chris, I don't know anything about the G.692 but, the IP55 code is a product safety requirement and it can be a big deal, especially a 55. IP55 is the International Ingress Protection rating per IEC529 and is referred to as the IP code for the

RE: FDA registration of laser

2003-06-11 Thread FastWave
No registration is required if: 1) You put a Class I laser product into your product (in its entirety) and your product is Class I. 2) You include the documentation that came with the laser product with your product. 3) You leave all the labeling on the laser product as you received. There is an

RE: New SBC NEBS Requirements Document

2003-05-29 Thread FastWave
1) Are all RBOC’s currently requiring GR-1089-CORE issue 2? 2) Anybody know when issue 3 will be required by an RBOC? 3) Can anybody who has issue 3 please send me Section 7.3 Continuous Source Requirements and associated Fig. 7.4? Thanks for the help, Bill Bisenius EDD

RE: DERIVATION OF CREEPAGE AND CLEARANCES

2003-04-25 Thread FastWave
Creepage Clearance distances in many IEC/EN standards including IEC61010-1 and thereby EN61010-1 are drawn from IEC60664-1: Insulation coordination for equipment within low-voltage systems - Part 1: Principles, requirements and tests. Bill Bisenius EDD bi...@productsafet.com

RE: Thermocouple glue

2003-04-23 Thread FastWave
We use and sell (conflict alert) the same thermocouple paste I used when I worked at UL (the brown stuff - doesn't seem to have another name except thermocouple paste) - see our web site www.productsafeT.com. Appears to have good thermal conductivity while having low electrical conductivity (when

EN61010-1, Symbol 14

2003-04-14 Thread FastWave
All symbols in Table 1 of EN61010-1:2001 are from the graphic symbol standard EN60417 except symbol 14 (exclamation point in an equilateral triangle). Symbol 14 references ISO7000, symbol #0434. I hate to get a standard for 1 symbol. Does anybody have the layout or artwork for this symbol that

RE: Class 2 laser

2003-03-05 Thread FastWave
IEC825-1 and CDRH requirements are focused on the laser product and incorporating provisions in the product for a safe installation. However, they do not include much on the actual installation and use/human interaction (other than for laser light shows). I recommend that you review NFPA115 -

Electrical Medical Product Production Testing

2003-02-10 Thread FastWave
Does anybody know any Certification Agencies and/or Standards anywhere in the world requiring Production Line Leakage Current Testing on Electrical Medical Products? If so, does anybody have it in writing? Thanks for the help, Bill Bisenius EDD, Inc. bi...@productsafet.com

TNV Test Generator

2002-12-11 Thread FastWave
Telecom - Product Safety Question: I am looking for a test generator per clause 2.3.5 of IEC60950 = a test generator is used that provides 120 V +/- 2 VAC at 50 or 60 Hz and has an internal impedance of 1200 ohms +/- 2%. Anybody have any input on a source to buy or a method to build such a

Test Equipment Developers Wanted

2002-11-05 Thread FastWave
EDD is a world leader in the manufacture, sale, and distribution of Product Safety Test Equipment. We are in search of turn-key test equipment developers for both standard off-the-shelf and custom Product Safety Test Equipment = some products are all mechanical, some are primarily electrical,

RE: Layered Reinforced Insulation

2002-10-28 Thread FastWave
I certainly agree that reinforced can be a solid insulation - hence the 0.4. mm thickness requirement. Sorry if my memo gave you a different impression. Bill Bisenius bi...@productsafet.com -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org

RE: Layered Reinforced Insulation

2002-10-25 Thread FastWave
A reinforced insulation system by definition may be multiple layers if it is all the same insulating material. Two different insulating materials must be evaluated as double insulation = one of the materials must meet the requirements for basic insulation, the other material must meet the

RE: David Sproul...UL creepage limits ;~)

2002-10-11 Thread FastWave
Creepage distance has nothing to do with current within the context of the product safety standards. Creepage distance is the distance across the surface of an insulating material. The specific Creepage distance for any product safety application is based on: 1) Working Voltage, 2)