A previous message indicated that Listing marks from some NRTLs may not be
accepted by all jurisdictions. Has anyone encountered a jurisdiction that
did not accept the TUV Rheinland Listing mark?
Richard Woods
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: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 11:22 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject:RE: NRTL acceptance
Vitaly,
Allow me to try and clear some confusion over
NRTLs and marks.
NRTL is not a mark. An NRTL is an OSHA Nationally
Recognized
Testing Laboratory accredited to evaluate
Hello Tac
I am sure that you will get many answers to this
question. The short answer is it's only important if
you wish to sell any!
Any PC manufacturers that you supply who are
attempting to get their end product certified will
require your power supply to be also certified. To
cover all
of
us who is recognized CO
and who is not.
Best Regards
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From: geor...@lexmark.com
[SMTP:geor...@lexmark.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 5:02 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject:RE: NRTL acceptance
S. William,
Thanks
@interlock.lexmark.com
(bcc: George
Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
George, Canada is not as straight forward as that.
There is not a mutual
agreement. In order for a lab to issue a Canadian
Approval Mark, the lab
must be accredited as a CO(Certifying
, etc.
Thanks again
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From: geor...@lexmark.com [SMTP:geor...@lexmark.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 11:22 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
Vitaly,
Allow me to try and clear some confusion over NRTLs and marks
Tac PSNet,
Altho we've discussed this here at some length before, the
certification and marking of components is intended to simplify the
evaluation and certification of equipment because the component doesn't
have to be evaluated again.
This works well if the test house
Hello all,
Would the NRTL program be a big plus for the ITE certified component, such
as power supply???
Tac Pham
HC Power, inc.
I tried to recall NRTLs that were approved for asessments of ITE to
UL1950. I did not overlook MET (listed in my note), but may have
missed NTS which may fit
/Lexmark@LEXMARK,
emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee@interlock.lexmark.com (bcc: George
Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
Graham,
In the second paragraph, I said CSA is recognized NRTL. Thus, CSA can
issue both NRTL and c-NRTL marks (as well as UL and c-UL marks as far as I
Chatsworth, CA 91311
Best Regards,
Vitaly Gorodetsky
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From: Graham Rae Dulmage [SMTP:grdulm...@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 7:06 PM
To: Gorodetsky, Vitaly
Cc: 'geor...@lexmark.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: NRTL acceptance
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Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
S. William,
Thanks for the words on COs and TOs and SCCs. Apparantly UL is one or
more of these, as the c-UL mark is legally acceptable in Canada.
Now, what other COs has the SCC accredited to issue an approved Canadian
mark
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Subject:RE: NRTL acceptance
Kevin,
Thanks for the website pointer. I found the site
nearly impossible
to use via the search
e-mail ndev...@entela.com
PS Yes, Entela is a CO.
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From: geor...@lexmark.com [mailto:geor...@lexmark.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 8:02 AM
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Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
S. William,
Thanks for the words on COs and TOs
@interlock.lexmark.com
cc:(bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
You can check out the SCC website at www.scc.ca
http://www.scc.ca , click on accreditations and then certification
orgs and type in the name of your favorite test lab (or your least favorite
as the case
:(bcc: Steve Williams/SDD/NAM/APCC)
From: geor...@lexmark.com on 11/23/99 08:02 AM
Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
S. William,
Thanks for the words on COs and TOs and SCCs. Apparantly UL is one or
more of these, as the c-UL mark is legally acceptable in Canada.
Now, what other COs has
, 1999 8:02 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject:RE: NRTL acceptance
S. William,
Thanks for the words on COs and TOs and SCCs.
Apparantly UL is one
)
Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
George, Canada is not as straight forward as that. There is not a mutual
agreement. In order for a lab to issue a Canadian Approval Mark, the lab
must be accredited as a CO(Certifying Organization) by the SCC(Standards
Council of Canada). The CO must use data that has come
...@sensormatic.com
Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 2:07 PM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject:RE: NRTL acceptance
Terry,
We have used four agencies through the years, and
still have many products
with other than our main agency.
Over the past three years
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From: geor...@lexmark.com [SMTP:geor...@lexmark.com]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 5:11 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
Actually, the following NRTLs are approved by OSHA for evaluation
to UL 1950:
UL, CSA, ITS
/SDD/NAM/APCC)
From: geor...@lexmark.com on 11/22/99 03:42 PM
Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
I tried to recall NRTLs that were approved for asessments of ITE to
UL1950. I did not overlook MET (listed in my note), but may have
missed NTS which may fit this description. I'm not sure the others
@interlock.lexmark.com on 11/22/99 03:10:00 PM
To: George_Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark@LEXMARK,
emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee@interlock.lexmark.com
cc:(bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
George,
You have overlooked MET, NTS, WYLE, SWRI and others. For a complete list
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From: oover...@lexmark.com [mailto:oover...@lexmark.com]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 9:21 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: NRTL Acceptance
Importance: Low
Try this website for current information on approved NRTLs.
http://www.osha-slc.gov/dts/optsc/nrtl/index.html;
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Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 7:21 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject:Re: NRTL Acceptance
Try this website for current information on approved NRTLs.
http://www.osha-slc.gov/dts/optsc/nrtl
...@sensormatic.com on 11/22/99 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
A corollary to Jim's comments --
We were using a non-traditional NRTL with favorable experiences -- rapid
approval process, cost competitive, etc. Then a particular contract that
we
were bidding on specified the traditional NRTL
: RE: NRTL acceptance
Terry,
We have used four agencies through the years, and still have many products
with other than our main agency.
Over the past three years, there was one incident with a NEC inspector
that
did not correctly identify the backwards RU of a very famous NRTL
: NRTL acceptance
Terry and George,
In this country of ours, there are three equally acceptable safety marks:
UL, ETL and NRTL. But, as we all know, some acceptable marks are more equal
than others.
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From: geor...@lexmark.com [SMTP:geor...@lexmark.com]
Sent: Friday
/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject: RE: NRTL acceptance
Terry and George,
In this country of ours, there are three equally acceptable safety marks:
UL, ETL and NRTL. But, as we all know, some acceptable marks are more
equal
than others.
-Original Message-
From: geor...@lexmark.com
, 1999 11:02 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: NRTL acceptance
Terry,
You have raised a very good question. The problem is that the U.S.
had only one approved safety agency for so long, that it is
difficult to wean non-laymen away from that one agency mark. This
includes
Goedderz
Sensormatic
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From: Terry Meck[SMTP:tjm...@accusort.com]
Reply To: Terry Meck
Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 12:25 PM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: NRTL acceptance
Hi:
We have been using an old reliable but very busy Safety agency
PM
Please respond to tjmeck%accusort@interlock.lexmark.com
To: emc-pstc%ieee@interlock.lexmark.com
cc:(bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject: NRTL acceptance
Hi:
We have been using an old reliable but very busy Safety agency to
review our products and apply their safety mark
Hi:
We have been using an old reliable but very busy Safety agency to
review our products and apply their safety mark.
From time to time we are approached by their competitors, NRTLs, or
European soon to be NRTL labs for our business.
My question is in this `NRTL enlightened market are there
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