Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-11 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
for capacitive elements) Ralph McDiarmid Product Compliance Engineering Solar Business Schneider Electric From: Peter Tarver [mailto:ptar...@enphaseenergy.com] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 5:23 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pilot rating Hi, Jon. Switching a

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-08 Thread Peter Tarver
ailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 13:09 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pilot rating The ultimate issue is what safety issue occurs if the contactor fails to open or close when it is supposed to? If there is no safety consequence, then the contactor contro

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-08 Thread Richard Nute
The ultimate issue is what safety issue occurs if the contactor fails to open or close when it is supposed to? If there is no safety consequence, then the contactor control is functional, not a safeguard. If there is a safety consequence, then the circuits controlling the contactor constitu

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-08 Thread Richard Nute
“Agreement is usually a compromise for both sides.” Unfortunately, the process denigrates science and engineering (but saves face for both sides, especially the certification house). Still cynical Rich - This me

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread John Shinn
Gerry, I had the same impression. John Shinn, PPASEL Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Ghery Pettit wrote: > > I looked at the subject line and thought about something completely unrelated > – pilot ratings. I have a PP-ASEL IA. Private Pilot – Airplane, Single > Engine, La

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread Pete Perkins
d this lab is always making sure their reports can withstand the scrutiny of the OSHA auditor. -Dave From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 6:12 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
their reports can withstand the scrutiny of the OSHA auditor. -Dave From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 6:12 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pilot rating According to https://www.macromatic.com/blog/relays/what-are-pilot-duty-ratings

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread Richard Nute
, for the hint of a web search. From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 2:00 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pilot rating A web search for 'OPTOMOS pilot duty rating' produces useful information, including references to

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pilot rating I only pilot paper airplanes and this isn't my area of expertise, but it looks like this potential requirement originates in NEMA ICS 5 "Industrial Control and Systems:  Control Circuit and Pilot Devices" and perhaps also in IEC 6

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread Adam Dixon
I only pilot paper airplanes and this isn't my area of expertise, but it looks like this potential requirement originates in NEMA ICS 5 "Industrial Control and Systems: Control Circuit and Pilot Devices" and perhaps also in IEC 62314 (Solid State Relays - as a "control" relay though the word 'pilo

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread John Woodgate
8 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] Pilot rating UL does not have a sense of humor that we are aware of. TOB - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a me

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread John Allen
UL, AND every other certification body – especially if there is “money” in it L From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: 07 December 2017 21:48 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pilot rating UL does not have a sense of humor that we are aware of. TOB

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread John Woodgate
A web search for 'OPTOMOS pilot duty rating' produces useful information, including references to UL508. But it seems that these are contact ratings for switching inductive loads (other relay coils). Since you have the double zener to absorb the inductive kick, you would only need, it seems, th

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread Kunde, Brian
UL does not have a sense of humor that we are aware of. TOB From: Jon Keeble [mailto:j...@wattwatchers.com.au] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 4:45 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Pilot rating We are getting a somewhat innovative product through UL at the moment. So

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread Jon Keeble
We are getting a somewhat innovative product through UL at the moment. So there has been quite a lot of discussion and feedback from UL. But when UL said they thought my little board needed a pilot rating I really thought they were joking. Jon Keeble On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 8:31 AM, wrote: > I l

Re: [PSES] Pilot rating

2017-12-07 Thread Ghery Pettit
I looked at the subject line and thought about something completely unrelated – pilot ratings. I have a PP-ASEL IA. Private Pilot – Airplane, Single Engine, Land Instrument Airplane. 😊 And you? Ghery S. Pettit From: Jon Keeble [mailto:j...@wattwatchers.com.au] Sent: Thursday, Decemb