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Hi Gregg:
The File number
for Microsoft on their software - but at least it makes them work harder)
Gary
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From: Peter Tarver [mailto:peter.tar...@sanmina.com]
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Subject: RE: UL - marking - gentle warning
: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:35 AM
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Subject: RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.
Rich and others,
Here is what the Listing Mark Data Page says in one of our FUS books
Hi Peter:
Thanks for sending the UL letter and UL Listing Mark page.
I stand corrected.
For Information Technology Equipment, UL's letter of March 31,
1995, authorizes the optional use of the file number as the
control number.
Apparently, this option is not available for non-ITE products.
Hi Rich,
1. UL in a circle (the famous UL Listing mark symbol),
2. The word LISTED in capital letters,
3. The assigned control number*, and
4. Product identity (e.g., NWGQ, I.T.E., etc.)
* The assigned control number is a designation that UL assigns to a
manufacturer, or
Rich -
Regarding UL Recognized Component Appliance Wiring Material,
the yellow book states that the marking must be on a tag,
the reel or smallest unit container, not surface marked on
the wire insulation, as referred to by Greg. Very few UL
FUS folks will accept surface marking, though I had
Gary -
Or for the less scrupulous than careless, to remove the
certification mark from a product and place it one that is
not safety certified.
Regards,
Peter L. Tarver, PE
Product Safety Manager
Sanmina Homologation Services
peter.tar...@sanmina.com
From: Gary McInturff
The Product
Peter -
If you have such a memo, please do provide a copy. I my
years working at UL and working with them since, it was ever
abundantly and adamantly maintained (by UL's FUS Label
Services group) that the Control Number is a required part
of the Listing Mark and there is no substitution for it.
Rich is quite right, in general. There are UL Listing Marks
available, but they won't have the other three required
elements that make up the complete marking (some may include
the word Listed).
The page Rich referred to in a UL Follow-Up Services
Procedure, though, is separate from the Section
: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:41 AM
To: 'Rich Nute'; rpick...@hypercom.com
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Subject:RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.
Rich,
For ITE, the file number may be used in lieu of control number. I will be
glad to provide
: Re: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.
Hi Ron:
1. UL in a circle (the famous UL Listing mark symbol),
2. The word LISTED in capital letters,
3. The assigned control number*, and
4. Product identity (e.g., NWGQ, I.T.E., etc.)
* The assigned control number
Hi Gregg:
The File number 'may' be used on things like cable (it is common to see UL
and CSA file numbers) and other components - Control numbers (I forget the
correct terminology) is required on some UR components but not all Listed
products.
UL Listed wire:
According to
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Subject: Re: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.
Hi Chris:
Does the file number need to be on the label
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Hi Ron:
1. UL in a circle (the famous UL Listing mark symbol),
2. The word LISTED in capital letters,
3. The assigned control number*, and
4. Product identity (e.g., NWGQ, I.T.E., etc.)
* The assigned control number is a designation that UL assigns to a
manufacturer, or
:
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marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate
Hi Chris:
Does the file number need to be on the label? Can the manufacturer
leave the file number off of the label and simply put a generic UL (or
CSA) mark on the product along with their nameplate identifying the
manufacturer, model and serial number?
In my response to
on the product.
John Juhasz
Fiber Options
Bohemia, NY
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Subject: RE: UL - marking - gentle warning
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Subject: RE: UL - marking - gentle warning not to extrapolate.
It is - however - wise not to read too much into this decision and
assume
that obtaining a CB Report from a UL Product is matter of fact
It is - however - wise not to read too much into this decision and assume
that obtaining a CB Report from a UL Product is matter of fact.
There are many pitfalls. E.g. - X and Y Caps may be have been reviewed to an
older (950) standard that permits compliance to EITHER UL OR IEC.
Been there
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