Re: [Emc-users] A axis following errors

2008-02-10 Thread Rob Jansen
Fred, coil winder ... then indeed you want these multiple revs/s I agree with Steve, this is a cool application. His remarks sound usefull. But then, should stepconf not prevent us to do this? I configured my system using stepconf and it will just not allow me to increase the speed above a

Re: [Emc-users] Speed issue with EMC

2008-02-10 Thread ben lipkowitz
Hi Rob, The computer is plenty fast enough. This is a physics problem, something like possibility #3. If my memory serves correctly, EMC will try to make every little corner to within 0.001mm unless you tell it not to. Try adding this to the top of the program: G64 P0.01 This tells EMC it's

Re: [Emc-users] Speed issue with EMC

2008-02-10 Thread John Thornton
With your settings it will take 20 mm to reach max speed. So 20mm to ramp up and 20mm to ramp down. Do a 60mm move and you sould see max speed in Axis. Don't forget that Axis does not update in realtime so it lags a bit behind. If your moves are short you don't have time to reach max speed.

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper problem

2008-02-10 Thread John Thornton
Ian, Do a test with a G1 at max speed. You should get the same results as a G0. If you have a Gecko drive you can tune the low range for smooth operation with the trim pot. Is your drive a micro step drive? or are you running whole steps? John On 9 Feb 2008 at 18:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Emc-users] Speed issue with EMC

2008-02-10 Thread rob
John, Ben, thanks for the explanations. Meanwhile I fiddled around a bit more with my system and spent quite some time air milling and after playing around with different settings I discovered that , as John suggested, higher accelaration gets faster results. I now got the acceleration up

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Gerber File Editor

2008-02-10 Thread Javid Butler
Kirk- I've usd View Master a little bit in the past. Good for minor changes, not major ones. It's not open source, but it is not expensive-$49. Here's the link. http://www.pentalogix.com/ I'm surprised you had trouble doing what you wanted in Eagle, although it can take some futzing (no

Re: [Emc-users] A axis following errors

2008-02-10 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: For my own education, I am used to stepper systems not having feedback which would be required for EMC2 to fault on following errors. How are these errors being indicated? EMC's internal step generator keeps track of the number of steps that have been issued, and uses

Re: [Emc-users] A axis following errors

2008-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Stepconf sets up the fast thread based on your max velocity settings, within limits. Your BASE_PERIOD is probably too high to generate steps fast enough for 144000 deg/min. at 2400 degrees/second * 13.8 steps/degree means you need 3 steps/second.

Re: [Emc-users] A axis following errors

2008-02-10 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 18:51 -0800, f m wrote: Rob, Let me clarify a bit. The application is for a coil winder on a non round form. The form will be directly attached to the motor shaft. I need to velocity modulate the speed of the A axis as it goes around corners in order

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Gerber File Editor

2008-02-10 Thread Stuart Brorson
I just sent my serial DAC gerber files to a fab house. I had to hack the silk screen file to include an outline and a couple of features that the Eagle CAM refused to pick up as silk screen features. What I did was find the Gerber code of the features in the other files a pasted it into the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Gerber File Editor

2008-02-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
Thanks for the reply Javid. On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 11:34 -0600, Javid Butler wrote: Kirk- I've usd View Master a little bit in the past. Good for minor changes, not major ones. It's not open source, but it is not expensive-$49. Here's the link. http://www.pentalogix.com/ The (my)

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper problem

2008-02-10 Thread watchman1
Thanks Brian (and others). I now have more speed and I now know much more about how TRAJ works I think, however, I still have one little problem which probably didn't occur at the low speed and which I don't seem able to get rid of. When the motor starts to move, it does two or three steps and

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Gerber File Editor

2008-02-10 Thread John Kasunich
Stuart Brorson wrote: * Thirdly, Eagle evidently doesn't fulfill your needs, so I'd suggest you try a different package. I don't know why you aren't using an open-source design suite. The cannonical electronic design suite for Linux is gEDA/gaf for schematics and netlisting:

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Gerber File Editor

2008-02-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 13:00 -0500, Stuart Brorson wrote: ... snip * On the open-source side of things, a decent Gerber *viewer* is gerbv: http://gerbv.sourceforge.net/ An interesting, new feature of gerbv is that it will re-export Gerbers which have been read in. Currently, this

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Gerber File Editor

2008-02-10 Thread Javid Butler
Thanks for the reply Javid. The (my) problem with View Master is that it is a Windows program. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the MS Virus either, but have too much specialized software (mostly development tools) that is only available for Windows. Some vendors are starting to catch on, but not

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Gerber File Editor

2008-02-10 Thread John Kasunich
Stuart Brorson wrote: Disclaimer: I am also a gEDA developer too. Cool - we got you to de-lurk *chuckle* I've been lurking here for two or three years. Someday, when I have scads of time, I want to get a mill and fiddle around with EMC. Right now, however, I have too many other

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Gerber File Editor

2008-02-10 Thread John Kasunich
John Kasunich wrote: Stuart Brorson wrote: One of gEDA's big strengths is that the netlister, gnetlist, was architected so that users may write their own back-ends which translate their designs (expressed graphically) into netlists of their own choice. Right now, gnetlist supports about 20

Re: [Emc-users] DaDynamic compensation.

2008-02-10 Thread amtb
Hi Stuart I do not know how difficult it will be to te code for 3D compensation in 5 axis world. I want to say how it looks to me. 1. On solid model need to identify equal size triangle with 3in each a side. 2. Machine should move ahead and heat part in designated area of part or fixture. 3.

[Emc-users] Homing Speed

2008-02-10 Thread John Thornton
Is it possible that the reason that I see such violent jerking when leaving the home switch (much greater acceleration than a G0 move) is because of this? In theory EMC will never ask for more accel or velocity than the limits specify, but there are some very difficult cases. One of

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-10 Thread Stan Blosser
Doh! Of course, a link to my site would help: http://www.theblossers.net/index.php?section=15 Stan Blosser wrote: I just posted a blog article on my site regarding my recent stepper torque measurement project. Not directly relating to EMC, but I felt it relevant enough to share here. :-)

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Gerber File Editor

2008-02-10 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 10:44:17PM -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: I just sent my serial DAC gerber files to a fab house. I had to hack the silk screen file to include an outline and a couple of features that the Eagle CAM refused to pick up as silk screen features. Tried just now, so should

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-10 Thread Dave Engvall
IIRC - some years ago there was some talk about limiting force on each axis or the x,y vector. I don't think it is easy to do but something to think about. I have no idea how much difference there is between the forces for a 'good' cutter and a cutter on the edge of going bad. Something

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-10 Thread Stan Blosser
I'm not an expert on AC servos (or servos at all for that matter) but I suppose the same tecnique could be used to measure torque on nearly any motor, but keep in mind it is an offline process. This is not something done directly by EMC or the motor controller. The setup for my

Re: [Emc-users] Running on a G4 MAc (new world)

2008-02-10 Thread Jason Cox
Paul, I am about ready to start on the mac port :) I am trying to decide onwhich way to go. 1. install xcode and try to get rtai to work on a 10.4 10.5 kernel. I have done a bit of digging into this and havent had much luck in finding anyone who has don it. downfall as i dont know