Re: [Emc-users] Weird EMC2 tuning issue ( direction reverses intermittently)

2009-07-06 Thread Luc Claeys
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 07 July 2009, Luc Claeys wrote: I don't see value that specifically affects the direction valid time, but I definitely could be missing something... >>> Someone will probably chime in here. >> See parameters stepgen.N.dirsetup and stepgen.N.dirhol

Re: [Emc-users] Beginner question

2009-07-06 Thread Chris Morley
> > > >I have just now gotten my mill up and running, and am trying to optimize > >the motion and speed of the motors. > > > >Has anyone used a CMD-50 driver from API? I have the manual, but the > >only timing info it has is: > > > >Step ... Square wave -

Re: [Emc-users] Weird EMC2 tuning issue ( direction reverses intermittently)

2009-07-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 July 2009, Luc Claeys wrote: >Hi, > >>> I don't see value that specifically affects the direction valid time, >>> but I definitely could be missing something... >> >> Someone will probably chime in here. > >See parameters stepgen.N.dirsetup and stepgen.N.dirhold >in http://linuxcnc

Re: [Emc-users] Weird EMC2 tuning issue ( direction reverses intermittently)

2009-07-06 Thread Luc Claeys
Hi, >> I don't see value that specifically affects the direction valid time, >> but I definitely could be missing something... > > Someone will probably chime in here. See parameters stepgen.N.dirsetup and stepgen.N.dirhold in http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.3/html/man/man9/stepgen.9.html You can

Re: [Emc-users] Slightly OT: Turning

2009-07-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
you are correct when you understand turning as super fine threads and you are correct when you understand the fillet in the corner of the shoulder will not be a perfect fillet as the accel/decel will cause the tool to round the motion slightly and not form the tool nose radius in the corner of the

Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning

2009-07-06 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 11:02:28PM +0100, Leslie Newell wrote: > Thanks Jon, > > I'll study your docs. What I can't understand though is why I is > increasing the following error. I'm imagining a very-wrong FF2 setting that causes a large error at the acceleration portion of the move. During ac

Re: [Emc-users] Beginner question

2009-07-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 06 July 2009, Peter Cauchy wrote: >Hello all, > >I have just now gotten my mill up and running, and am trying to optimize >the motion and speed of the motors. > >Has anyone used a CMD-50 driver from API? I have the manual, but the >only timing info it has is: > >DRIVE TYPE ...

Re: [Emc-users] Slightly OT: Turning

2009-07-06 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
Thanks for the reply. It was just a general question. I've got stuck in my mind, the image of the lathe turning as "turning a super fine thread", and was wondering if it stopped when it got to the shoulder and retracted, would it leave that part of the "thread" that it didn't get around to machin

Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning

2009-07-06 Thread Jon Elson
Leslie Newell wrote: > Thanks Jon, > > I'll study your docs. What I can't understand though is why I is > increasing the following error. > Yes, this confuses me, too. It may be that some other parameter is actually causing it, and the I term either helps or doesn't help to suppress the erro

Re: [Emc-users] Weird EMC2 tuning issue ( direction reverses intermittently)

2009-07-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 July 2009, Jeffrey Pease wrote: >Thanks for everyone's responses. I get a digest version of the mail >list responses, so I'll go ahead and reply to everybody's at one time. > > >> Robert: > >I haven't spent much time messing with halscope, but I'm not sure how >to best use it here give

Re: [Emc-users] Slightly OT: Turning

2009-07-06 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Frank, I G04 dwell would do the same thing as what you do manually. How critical is the squareness of the shoulder at the diameter of the turned shaft? Do you need a very accurate corner radius? If you need a VERY accurate corner radius you should use a smaller corner radius on the turning tool

[Emc-users] Beginner question

2009-07-06 Thread Peter Cauchy
Hello all, I have just now gotten my mill up and running, and am trying to optimize the motion and speed of the motors. Has anyone used a CMD-50 driver from API? I have the manual, but the only timing info it has is: DRIVE TYPE .. 2 phase, bipolar, constant current

Re: [Emc-users] Weird EMC2 tuning issue (direction reverses intermittently)

2009-07-06 Thread Jeffrey Pease
Thanks for everyone's responses. I get a digest version of the mail list responses, so I'll go ahead and reply to everybody's at one time. >> Robert: I haven't spent much time messing with halscope, but I'm not sure how to best use it here given the intermittent nature of the problem. Norma

Re: [Emc-users] OpenGL on EMC2? + 7i43

2009-07-06 Thread Jake Anderson
Richard Acosta wrote: > That's the kind of answer i have found the most here. > > I'm the customer asking for support and i am very dissapointed with your > support. > Thats it right there. You aren't a customer, you are a peer. Did you pay for EMC? Did you pay or offer to pay any of the devs

Re: [Emc-users] EMC: Lathe Users CAM preferences?

2009-07-06 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
I'm a hobby lathe user. I've just converted my lathe and I'm looking into software too. I use Visual Mill for my mill, and I will have a closer look at Visual Turn when they release the new version that uses the new VisualCam engine. It was promised to be ready at the end of last year, but I'm n

[Emc-users] EMC: Lathe Users CAM preferences?

2009-07-06 Thread Ted Hyde
Hey guys - I started this thread on the forum, but since there's not much activity there at the moment, I thought I'd bring it here: Rather simple question: what are the EMC-lathe users out there using as their preferred method of developing GCode? The wiki lists a few - and in many cases - out

[Emc-users] Slightly OT: Turning

2009-07-06 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
I'm writing some gcode programs for my lathe and I have a couple of questions. I'm doing a basic shoulder, turning along the length of the work piece in the -Z direction to a point, then moving in the +X direction to make the square shoulder. 1) Should I be using one of the exact modes, G61 or

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread sani.broy...@free.fr
I'm trying hard :-) Thanks for your advices. Too late (1.28 AM) to go on tonight, I'll experience debug modes tomorrow. Regards, Chris Le mardi 7 juillet 2009 01:12:00, Frank Tkalcevic a écrit : > > Everything was neat and clear until I tried the proposed .hal > > file to integrate the Joypad in

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
> Everything was neat and clear until I tried the proposed .hal > file to integrate the Joypad in "axis". Nothing appends, or > tombstone sometimes. I found that out the hard way too. It only takes a small change in your .ini file or .hal file and you can no longer use shared hal files. It's a

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread sani.broy...@free.fr
Lucky you :-) Regards, Chris. Le mardi 7 juillet 2009 00:17:16, John Thornton a écrit : > Mine works flawlessly... > > John > > On 6 Jul 2009 at 18:34, sani.broy...@free.fr wrote: > > Hi all. > > Anybody using a USB joypad that works ? > > Regards. > > > > > > -

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread sani.broy...@free.fr
Thank you Franck! I used halrun or halui to test my Joypad early in my attemtps, all was OK from that point of view. Halrun commands showed pins in command line interface, halui showed values obtainable on sticks and buttons. All gave satisfaying results. Of course I took care of the chmod 660

Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning

2009-07-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, Leslie Newell wrote: > Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:02:28 +0100 > From: Leslie Newell > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning > > Thanks Jon, > > I'll study your docs. What I can't

Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning

2009-07-06 Thread Leslie Newell
Thanks Jon, I'll study your docs. What I can't understand though is why I is increasing the following error. Les Jon Elson wrote: > > Because of discontinuities is the programmed path, the I term is of > limited usefulness. > I usually just put a tiny amount in and leave it there. I can't giv

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
As other people have mentioned, you haven't told us what part is not working. Joypads and USB devices can be difficult because of Linux's permissions and the way hotplugging works (device drivers can claim control of the device). These pages on the wiki is a good place to start... http://wiki.l

Re: [Emc-users] OpenGL on EMC2? + 7i43

2009-07-06 Thread Richard Acosta
That's the kind of answer i have found the most here. I'm the customer asking for support and i am very dissapointed with your support. I have read all your message, i intended to make a short answer but i kept too much time answering your message and some others. I was really tired, but i too

Re: [Emc-users] OpenGL on EMC2? + 7i43

2009-07-06 Thread Richard Acosta
I can only agree with you, and i completely understand what you say, but you are not fully aware of my situation. El 05/07/2009 06:59 a.m., Sven Wesley escribió: > I honestly believe that EMC is not the way to go all the time if you're not > willing to pay someone to set things up or give suppor

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread John Thornton
Mine works flawlessly... John On 6 Jul 2009 at 18:34, sani.broy...@free.fr wrote: > Hi all. > Anybody using a USB joypad that works ? > Regards. > > > > -- > ___ > Emc-user

[Emc-users] Modbus command line utility & Toshiba VF-S11 VFD results

2009-07-06 Thread Haberler Michael
ok, along my quest towards VFD control via Modbus I didnt find an appropriate command line utility to talk to Modbus, so I wrote one. It helped me de-mystifying how to work with the Toshiba VF-S11; results, VFD setup instructions and sample control files are included. I think now I'll actual

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread Rainer Schmidt
No, cut and paste does not work But following the steps works. I did not attempt cut and paste. Dumbass: Si je suis un menteur, alors vous êtes un con haha 8) I'll send the files later Have to deal with many 'Con' today on the phone On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM, sani.broy...@free.f

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread sani.broy...@free.fr
I wasn't saying that, sorry Rainer. I copied/pasted the file, got a ton of errors :-) So the example given in the wiki was not, for sure, usable "as is" :-) "Dumbass" is not in my translator. Could you explain ? ;-) Regards, Chris. Le lundi 6 juillet 2009 19:19:51, Rainer Schmidt a écrit : > T

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 with AXIS as pure simulator on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-07-06 Thread Martin Schöneck
Jeff, Thanks for your help! With Tk8.5-dev instead of Tk8.4-dev I was able to build and run emc with axis as simulator on Ubuntu 9.04. Martin > On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 10:39:25PM +0200, c...@martinschoeneck.de wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> If I got it right, I can use the emc2-sim without the rtai

Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning

2009-07-06 Thread Jon Elson
Leslie Newell wrote: > I have finally got to the point on my lathe where I can start tuning. > The setup is: > Mesa 5i20 driving a 7i29 with 1024CPR encoders on the screws. The PWM > gain is set so the velocity is roughly equal to the commanded input. For > example a PID output of 60 will give a

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread Rainer Schmidt
Then I am a happy liar who jogs his machine with his JoyPad When I get to the shop later I'll post my hal file edits and the message from Linux when it finds my pad. I might shoot a quick movie how it jogs so you have to stop calling me a liar and I can start calling you dumbass! Why should I

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Sani, I used the instructions below to get both a Logitech and Sony gamepad to work. The only real trick as far as I remember was making sure to use a recognizable portion of the name (i.e. replacing "SAITEK" from the instructions). http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?A_New_Approach_For_U

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
sani.broy...@free.fr wrote: >It doesn't work at all, despite I followed the procedure line by line. > > What does not work? You need to tell us step by step what you are doing, what you expect to see, and what you actually see. >Pins are not named the same, > Then change the names of the pin

Re: [Emc-users] [HELP - PERIPHERALS] A real jogging Joypad example that works ?

2009-07-06 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
sani.broy...@free.fr wrote: >Hi all. > >Beeing fully conscious of my ignorance of internals of EMC2, I'm now seeking a >mercyfull hand :-) > >Please forgive also my awfull english, I do my best :-) > > Pas de probleme. >I tried several hours to use tutorials showing the use a Joypad to jog an

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread sani.broy...@free.fr
It doesn't work at all, despite I followed the procedure line by line. Pins are not named the same, hal_joystick or hal input doesn't work despite this joypad is the same as pictured and is perfectely used by all probe progs using /dev/input/js0. I can't believe you when you say It worked "out

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread Rainer Schmidt
I use the one from the picture on the wiki... I followed the installation procedure and it worked of the bat. I got mine from ebay for $7... I edited the wrong hal file and it got overridden again with a reconfig lol I was to lazy to set it up again... As I recall it was not a big deal to get

[Emc-users] Joypad ?

2009-07-06 Thread sani.broy...@free.fr
Hi all. Anybody using a USB joypad that works ? Regards. -- ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning

2009-07-06 Thread Leslie Newell
Sorry, I should have said. Hostmot2. Les robert wrote: > > which driver are you using > Hostmot 2 or Hostmot 4 > > -- > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforg

Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning

2009-07-06 Thread robert
Leslie Newell wrote: > I have finally got to the point on my lathe where I can start tuning. > The setup is: > Mesa 5i20 driving a 7i29 with 1024CPR encoders on the screws. The PWM > gain is set so the velocity is roughly equal to the commanded input. For > example a PID output of 60 will give a

Re: [Emc-users] Weird EMC2 tuning issue (direction reverses intermittently)

2009-07-06 Thread Damian Slavek
One other thing, I would also suggest you disable "Idle current reduction" on your controller board if that is an option. I was on the HCNC list for quite some time and many people had strange issues when idle current reduction was enabled, apparently the driver chips also have that "feature" built

Re: [Emc-users] Weird EMC2 tuning issue (direction reverses intermittently)

2009-07-06 Thread Damian Slavek
I would suggest checking this page: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Stepper_Drive_Timing It only has the HCNC pro listed but I believe they use the same driver chips. I have the HCNC Pro and have not seen the issues you mention, although like Terry already mentioned, stepconf uses inc

Re: [Emc-users] Gcode program error checking

2009-07-06 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Hi Frank, I know that MSG doesn't expand parameters. When I implemented "DEBUG," which works just like MSG but expands parameters, I could have made MSG work the same way. I made a conscious decision to NOT do that. If I had done that, there was a possibility of breaking existing programs in

[Emc-users] Servo tuning

2009-07-06 Thread Leslie Newell
I have finally got to the point on my lathe where I can start tuning. The setup is: Mesa 5i20 driving a 7i29 with 1024CPR encoders on the screws. The PWM gain is set so the velocity is roughly equal to the commanded input. For example a PID output of 60 will give about 60mm/sec movement. I have

Re: [Emc-users] G76 inifinite loop

2009-07-06 Thread Michał Geszkiewicz
This is surely bug and will be fixed in emc 2.3.3 Thanks for bug report, Michael Frank Tkalcevic pisze: > If I put in an invalid G76 threading command in some gcode, such as... > > > G76 P1.6 Z0 I-1.6 J0 K1.6 R2 H0 E0 L0 > > > Where J, the initial depth of cut, is 0, axis gets stuck in an infinit

Re: [Emc-users] G76 inifinite loop

2009-07-06 Thread Alex Joni
Hi Frank, thanks for the report. The _best_ thing you can do, is report this issue as a new bug at: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=6744&atid=106744 That way it would surely not be forgotten. Regards, Alex - Original Message - From: "Frank Tkalcevic" To: "'Enhanced Machine Co