Re: [Emc-users] Run in place

2010-09-09 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
As Jeff say I just forgot to enter: source scripts/emc-environment Now it works. Manuals are pretty bad (well not accurate). I know that kepping manuals up to date is near same job as programming itself. But as project (emc2) is maintained with so many developers kepping documantation is even

Re: [Emc-users] EMC as an alternative to Heidenhain iTNC 530, Siemens 840D, etc.

2010-09-09 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Ulf If you have money for a dmg machine of this new age, maybe emc is not what you need. That's what I'm trying to figure out. At present state I do not really know how much EMC might save me, probably 20k EUR. Depending on how difficult the conversion would be this could be worth it

Re: [Emc-users] EMC as an alternative to Heidenhain iTNC 530, Siemens 840D, etc.

2010-09-09 Thread Anders Wallin
The basic question I guess is would EMC be able to provice the same tool path quality as the (lower end) Siemens or Heidenhain controllers? You should run EMC in simulator mode, and use halscope or halstreamer to record all the joint positions to disk. Then you can analyze this data later for

Re: [Emc-users] EMC as an alternative to Heidenhain iTNC 530, Siemens 840D, etc.

2010-09-09 Thread Michael Büsch
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 13:47 +0300, Anders Wallin wrote: The basic question I guess is would EMC be able to provice the same tool path quality as the (lower end) Siemens or Heidenhain controllers? You should run EMC in simulator mode, and use halscope or halstreamer to record all the joint

[Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I have a prox for tool change zero return (to home the chain of pots) and a prox to count the pots during chain motion The chain moves slow - between 1 and 2 pots per second The chain matrix carries 30 pots This is a random tool changer - the pot swings down and a transfer arm

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Andy Pugh
On 9 September 2010 13:39, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: if (PotZero) {    toolpotcount = 1; } else if (PotCount) {    toolpotcount = toolpotcount + 1; } Does the zero pot also trigger the PotCount pin? I would be tempted to put the edge detector into the comp, to make the HAL

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Stuart Stevenson
when the zero return and count pots trigger I get 3 as the first count on the next pot count the result is 5 then 7 then 9 until the zero return hits again and resets to 3 I think I can probably fix the first three count by triggering the count prox on rising edge and triggering the zero pot on a

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Andy Pugh
On 9 September 2010 14:36, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: I could also move the zero trigger to create a trigger time difference my main question is - Why to I count 2 for every pot trigger? Is the edge detector in the same realtime thread as the toolchange comp? Is the edge pulse

[Emc-users] The kind of fun I had yesterday

2010-09-09 Thread Igor Chudov
http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Bridgeport-Series-II-Interact-2-CNC-Mill/29-High-Speed-Spindle/ Includes a video too. This is an adaptor plate for a high speed spindle (Bosch 1617EVS router). i -- This SF.net Dev2Dev

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, dave wrote: Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:14:19 -0700 From: dave dengv...@charter.net Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool change

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread dave
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 15:08 +0100, Andy Pugh wrote: On 9 September 2010 14:36, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: I could also move the zero trigger to create a trigger time difference my main question is - Why to I count 2 for every pot trigger? Is the edge detector in the same

Re: [Emc-users] The kind of fun I had yesterday

2010-09-09 Thread dave
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 09:12 -0500, Igor Chudov wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Bridgeport-Series-II-Interact-2-CNC-Mill/29-High-Speed-Spindle/ I did pretty much the same thing on my Mazak but hung the router co-axially with the spindle. It does impressive things in wood. Dave

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I will try that. I didn't think a prox would require a debounce thanks On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, dave wrote: Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:14:19 -0700 From: dave dengv...@charter.net Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread John Kasunich
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:39 -0500, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: Gentlemen, I have a prox for tool change zero return (to home the chain of pots) and a prox to count the pots during chain motion The chain moves slow - between 1 and 2 pots per second The chain matrix

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper

2010-09-09 Thread John Kasunich
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 22:22 -0700, Speaker To-Dirt speaker_2_d...@yahoo.com wrote: For what it's worth. I stumbled across this by accident. At a tool change take your tool to an area where there's still a surface z0.000. End the move with z1.000. Remove the tool, and insert the new tool.

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Stuart Stevenson
John, Can you post the complete file somewhere? (pastebin.ca, etc) I'm interested in seeing the variable declarations, etc, as well as the logic itself. -- here are the files http://www.mpm1.com:8080/machines/enshu/enshu.ini http://www.mpm1.com:8080/machines/enshu/enshu.hal

Re: [Emc-users] Tool table, setting up offsets with a caliper

2010-09-09 Thread Andy Pugh
On 9 September 2010 15:52, John Kasunich jmkasun...@fastmail.fm wrote: A dowel pin works great for this - very precise, and you can simply push it against the side of the tool, then raise the tool (or lower the knee) slowly until the pin rolls under. I think I have just found a use for the

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Stuart Stevenson
http://www.mpm1.com:8080/machines/enshu/Screenshot.png -- dos centavos -- This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: Show off your parallel programming skills. Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010.

Re: [Emc-users] EMC as an alternative to Heidenhain iTNC 530, Siemens 840D, etc.

2010-09-09 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Would they sell this bare bones? Well, as far as I know yet, no. So I'd have to buy an unnecessary controller. Since it wouldn't make much sense to pay for the control and then not use it. Right, the only good think would be that I could use the new mill immediately as a 3+2 axes mill

Re: [Emc-users] EMC as an alternative to Heidenhain iTNC 530, Siemens 840D, etc.

2010-09-09 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Michael G-code which consists of many many short G01-segments. What about adding a G64 P... or similar? I was about to mention that, too. I relay helps a lot. And on simple, not very rigid mills, it even improve the surface quality, especially in free from milling. Flo

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Andy Pugh
On 9 September 2010 16:26, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.mpm1.com:8080/machines/enshu/Screenshot.png Looks to be a glitch on the rising edge. I see you have an empty base-thread, run the Halscope in that, trigger on the rising edge and zoom to 1ms/div. -- atp

Re: [Emc-users] The kind of fun I had yesterday

2010-09-09 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 09/09/2010 08:12 AM, Igor Chudov wrote: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Bridgeport-Series-II-Interact-2-CNC-Mill/29-High-Speed-Spindle/ Includes a video too. This is an adaptor plate for a high speed spindle (Bosch 1617EVS router). Very cool Igor! How is the rigidity without screws

Re: [Emc-users] Question #1

2010-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:13:11 pm Andy Pugh did opine: On 9 September 2010 02:52, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: If its going to take more iron to run this, how about a suggestion for a newer motherboard, video card etc that can do all this in real time? I am not

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Interferometry

2010-09-09 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: A very accurate sphere (amateur made, using Foucault tester) is used as a standard to compare against the mirror being tested. I am wondering if a version of this could be used for testing machine axis accuracy using two accurate flats, one on the axis table, one

Re: [Emc-users] Question #1

2010-09-09 Thread Andy Pugh
On 9 September 2010 17:23, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I find that install image? http://www.linuxcnc.org/content/view/21/4/lang,en/ But if you came straight from Dapper, then it is probably unsafe to assume that Hardy will work better than Lucid. I know its part of

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Interferometry

2010-09-09 Thread Cal Grandy
Getting two flats aligned well enough to produce that first fringe is not trivial. It takes fine adjustment controlling elements. HeNe lasers go along way to aid this effort. Reflections and all. I have a Davidson D304, 5.5 aperture unit here in the home lab. Not useful for any machine

[Emc-users] Help! Axis runs hidden

2010-09-09 Thread vh5...@libero.it
Hi guys, today I started my machine and EMC2 didn't start automatically as all the days (it is in the start-up section) so I tried to launch it manually and I got the error ECMC2 is still runnnig. Restart it. So I realized that the process was still active. I killed the running processes and

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Stuart Stevenson
How do I run halscope in the base thread? I get the same double count using the falling edge. thanks Stuart On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.ukwrote: On 9 September 2010 16:26, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Stuart Stevenson
How do I run halscope in the base thread? I get the same double count using the falling edge. thanks Stuart On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.ukwrote: On 9 September 2010 16:26, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread John Kasunich
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:10 -0500, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: How do I run halscope in the base thread? That shouldn't be neccessary, if you are running your tool change component and the edge component in the servo thread. But if you want to try anyway, hit the button at the top

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread Stuart Stevenson
John, like I said - lacking intelligence is the problem setting the width to 0 is the answer works like a charm MANY MANY THANKS Is the out_width_ns parameter of the edge component zero? Any positive value (even 1 nanosecond) will result in the component producing an output pulse that is at

Re: [Emc-users] tool change component

2010-09-09 Thread John Kasunich
Lack of intelligence is not the problem - strange (and as far as I know undocumented) behavior of the edge component is. IMHO, for any value of out_width_ns from zero to the thread period, it should generate an output pulse of one period, not two. On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:51 -0500, Stuart

[Emc-users] Rtai problem on install

2010-09-09 Thread Ian W. Wright
Hi, I have tried to install the new EMC2 on an existing installation of Ubuntu 10.04LTS using the .sh script, however, I have hiot a problem which i don't quite understand. First let me say that the Ubuntu and EMC2 installation has been upgraded several times and I suspect that the problem

Re: [Emc-users] Rtai problem on install

2010-09-09 Thread Andy Pugh
On 9 September 2010 22:11, Ian W. Wright watchma...@talktalk.net wrote: If I just delete the 99-rtai.rules file will the upgrade to rtai-modules-2.6.32-122 automatically create a new file or will this break things altogether? If you rename it rather than delete it then you can try, then

Re: [Emc-users] EMC as an alternative to Heidenhain iTNC 530, Siemens 840D, etc.

2010-09-09 Thread Michael Büsch
On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 17:33 +0200, Florian Rist wrote: Hi Michael G-code which consists of many many short G01-segments. What about adding a G64 P... or similar? I was about to mention that, too. I relay helps a lot. And on simple, not very rigid mills, it even improve the surface

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 53, Issue 31

2010-09-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:23:44 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:13:11 pm Andy Pugh did opine: On 9 September 2010 02:52, Gene Heskettgene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: If its going to take more iron to run this, how about a suggestion for a newer motherboard,

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 on Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx LTS - official announcement

2010-09-09 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:54:18 +0300, you wrote: As most of you probably know, the latest version of Ubuntu has been released a couple months ago: Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx. However I do not encourage at this point to replace a working hardy install with the new lucid version, unless there is really

[Emc-users] G-code question

2010-09-09 Thread Spiderdab
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[Emc-users] inverted tripod question

2010-09-09 Thread Spiderdab
Hallo, first of all thanks for all the work done with emc2, and for ubuntu 10.04 emc iso. then.. i've a problem using the tripod setup. i've changed a little the kins and ini to have 4 legs, but the problem i have is the same as in a tripod: as i home all my axes, i change into world mode and

Re: [Emc-users] Help! Axis runs hidden

2010-09-09 Thread Jon Elson
vh5...@libero.it wrote: Hi guys, today I started my machine and EMC2 didn't start automatically as all the days (it is in the start-up section) so I tried to launch it manually and I got the error ECMC2 is still runnnig. Restart it. So I realized that the process was still active. I

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 53, Issue 31

2010-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:38:31 pm Kent A. Reed did opine: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 12:23:44 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:13:11 pm Andy Pugh did opine: On 9 September 2010 02:52, Gene Heskettgene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: If its going to take more

Re: [Emc-users] Rtai problem on install

2010-09-09 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I performed a new install of 10.04 Desktop. I then installed EMC2 using the shell script. I then downloaded the source with git and compiled. This install runs fine. I have had zero problems with it. I performed an upgrade from 9.1 to 10.04. I then installed EMC2 as in the prior

Re: [Emc-users] Help! Axis runs hidden

2010-09-09 Thread Eric Keller
If nothing is really wrong, you can find out by using the fg command from a terminal. Open a terminal and type: fg whatever_axis_real_name_is_here Nobody that uses EMC was on IRC tonight and I'm too lazy to walk to the basement to see if Axis is really named axis, so you'll have to figure that