Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 09:50:54PM -0800, Edward Bernard wrote: I'm surprised there were no comments on this. I'm wondering how such a venture could effect our beloved software. $.02 I was waiting to see what more active EMC2-ers think, but here's a comment, FWIW. It seems to be a vote of

Re: [Emc-users] fixed jog distance

2010-12-09 Thread rng3
On 12/07/2010 09:30 PM, Tom Easterday wrote: I want to be able to jog my machine a fixed small distance (.001) at a press of a button/arrow key/joystick. Currently my joystick or arrow keys moves continuously, which is fine in some cases and not in others. Is there a way to enable, say

[Emc-users] 3 axis, 4 drive configuration

2010-12-09 Thread Dave Christman
I am trying to configure and test a 3 axis, 4 drive , machine using a Gecko G540 stepper drive. I configure the machine for XYZ axis configuration and slave the A and X pins (X step on pins 2 and 8, and X direction on pins 3 and 9). When I test the X axis only one motor operates. I know the

Re: [Emc-users] 3 axis, 4 drive configuration

2010-12-09 Thread Mark Wendt
Dave, When you say you are testing the X axis, are you testing it within the stepconf program, or with one of the GUI's up and running? Mark On 12/09/2010 06:29 AM, Dave Christman wrote: I am trying to configure and test a 3 axis, 4 drive , machine using a Gecko G540 stepper drive. I

Re: [Emc-users] 3 axis, 4 drive configuration

2010-12-09 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Gantrykins is the kinematics module exactly for these kind of situations. It will assign 2 joints to one axis. I have used it, it is very nice! Take a look at it, search the web and/or mailing list archive. If there are any other questions left, then let us know. Viesturs 2010/12/9 Dave

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Jim Fleig
If the EMC2 GPL is honored, then EMC2 remains what it always has been - freely available open source software. If I make a CNC console and retrofit a machine with my console and EMC2, then I can charge for the console and the retrofit service but not for the software. Also, the end user

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 12/9/2010 12:50 AM, Edward Bernard wrote: I'm surprised there were no comments on this. I'm wondering how such a venture could effect our beloved software. My comment? An unknown entity using an unrevealing email address makes a vague offer on an open mail list to finance someone to

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Igor Chudov
I feel the same way. i On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com wrote: On 12/9/2010 12:50 AM, Edward Bernard wrote: I'm surprised there were no comments on this. I'm wondering how such a venture could effect our beloved software. My comment? An unknown entity

Re: [Emc-users] Kearney and Trecker Milwaukeematic IIIb progress

2010-12-09 Thread sam sokolik
fully auto! (pallet tranfer) could use a little optimization - but I am happy with it. (because it works ;)) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=objyMqAHUNU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYA5uEwLSTA right now I have a few buttons on a pyvcp pannel to do activate the cycles (offload pallet, swap

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Spiderdab
+1 Il 09/12/2010 14:49, Igor Chudov ha scritto: I feel the same way. i On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Kent A. Reedknbr...@erols.com wrote: On 12/9/2010 12:50 AM, Edward Bernard wrote: I'm surprised there were no comments on this. I'm wondering how such a venture could

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Peter Blodow
Hello gentlemen, regardless of this offer being serious or phoney or fraud, I think commerce will, like in other instances, spoil the character of the EMC project. So far, and I have been following this mail group for about two years, it was a playground for addicted engineers, maybe even

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread For Sale Sticker
3. The user interface needs a lot of critical thinking still, to bring it up to scratch. Have a good look at the latest FANUCs for instance. but the UI is miles ahead of mach3. --

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Colin K
I think worrying about EMC2 becoming overly commercialized right now is a bit like worrying that you may be killed by a falling space elevator ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator). Maybe it is possible but you are probably safe for at least a few decades. In the worst case, I think what

[Emc-users] Live CD Parport mode 4 problem

2010-12-09 Thread Neil Baylis
I have a multi-boot setup, so I can boot my original 8.04 liveCD installation, or my new 10.04 version. With the 10.04 version, I'm getting a complaint at startup that the parallel port doesn't support mode 4. I don't see this on the 8.04 version. It's the same computer, with the same .ini file,

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Igor Chudov
Colin, I agree. While I have big reservations about the genuiness of the offer that started this topic, I would be personally excited by a commercial project that would use EMC2, while complying with its licensing. The separation of control and GUI that exists in EMC means that we can have

Re: [Emc-users] Live CD Parport mode 4 problem

2010-12-09 Thread Jeff Epler
Yes, the parport stuff has changed between emc2.3 and emc2.4 and there are also differences between an 8.04 installation and a 10.04 installation. In emc 2.3 and earlier, emc's parport drivers would not cooperate with the linux parport drivers, so the linux driver was disabled by default. In emc

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 21:50 -0800, Edward Bernard wrote: I'm surprised there were no comments on this. I'm wondering how such a venture could effect our beloved software. I think it would be interesting to hear from Smithy and Tormach to see how EMC2 has affected their business. It doesn't

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread dave
Hi all, I can't see commercial support as being detrimental to EMC2 in any way. Take MPM (Stuart's shop) as an example. He has driven features he needed; eg. comp for an axis being out of tram. He uses features not usually needed; encoder's and glass scales on an axis. Not everyone has a 5

Re: [Emc-users] Live CD Parport mode 4 problem

2010-12-09 Thread Neil Baylis
OK, thanks Jeff. I was off list for a while, so I missed those earlier discussions. I'll check them out, and see if I can get it sorted. Neil On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Jeff Epler jep...@unpythonic.net wrote: Yes, the parport stuff has changed between emc2.3 and emc2.4 and there are also

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Arnoldritercnc
I could not agree more Arnold On 12/09/2010 02:44 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 12/9/2010 12:50 AM, Edward Bernard wrote: I'm surprised there were no comments on this. I'm wondering how such a venture could effect our beloved software. My comment? An unknown entity using an unrevealing

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Jon Elson
Anonymous Investor wrote: We believe that the largest impediment to success is the lack of a full scope supplier. I made a few complete, turnkey systems for people. One of the problems is that if you manufacture anything electronic, you are required by law to have it tested for radio

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Colin K
I agree, especially on ngcgui. I want to do dome work with that once my arduino pendant project is done. Currently I am designing some PCBs for that and getting my code cleaned up. I'm thinking about selling kits but releasing the source openly. It's interesting from the perspective of looking

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Igor Chudov
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: So, that is why I supply boards, but not turnkey systems.  Some of my products are used by sizable aerospace shops in daily production. And your products are pretty good. Not the bottom of the barrel cheapest, but very

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Igor Chudov
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Colin K cwk@gmail.com wrote: I agree, especially on ngcgui. I want to do dome work with that once my arduino pendant project is done. Currently I am designing some PCBs for that and getting my code cleaned up. I'm thinking about selling kits but releasing the

Re: [Emc-users] 3 axis, 4 drive configuration

2010-12-09 Thread Dave Christman
On 12/9/2010 6:40 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: Dave, When you say you are testing the X axis, are you testing it within the stepconf program, or with one of the GUI's up and running? Mark On 12/09/2010 06:29 AM, Dave Christman wrote: I am trying to configure and test a 3 axis, 4 drive ,

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Eric Keller
Well said. The support the developers give EMC is uncommon even among commercial software. Mach gets a lot of support from vendors because the user base is bigger. But you can have a step/dir machine up and running under EMC very quickly. If a machine was running under Mach, it probably would

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Colin K
Lest I give the wrong impression, I do agree that the current state of the project is very impressive and the people who have built it up have done a wonderful job on many fronts. Stepconf has evolved into a very solid tool and the user community is ENORMOUSLY helpful and generous. That more than

[Emc-users] Fwd: emcrsh socket blocks after SET ABORT on another socket

2010-12-09 Thread forget color
I'm using emcrsh to control EMC programmatically. Socket 1 is for primary communication.  It opens at program start, and is where MDI commands get sent. Socket 2 is only for aborting the current process.  It opens at program start, and whenever the current command needs to be aborted, it sends

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change challenge (Advanced Configuration forum)

2010-12-09 Thread robert
Hi here a video i put on youtube a while back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6dGYsXAPIU so yes and no, to a VFD for position work, that is in Hz mode, not flux vector as that drive has a limit of 4000rpm in vector mode and i need at least 6000rpm for the spindle. if i was todo it all over,

[Emc-users] Possible router refit

2010-12-09 Thread lloyd wilson
My son runs a Techno router (4 axis) in his business and may need to upgrade the the controller. We are curious if anyone has done a retrofit of one of these machines to emc, and what, if any, are pitfalls to beware of. He uses MasterCam, version X5 to generate the router files. The wiki

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change challenge (Advanced Configuration forum)

2010-12-09 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 06:21:03PM -0800, Gary McRobert wrote: Still undecided as how to resolve the tool change challenge. I think you are asking about how to do spindle orient. Having used machines with vfd+pid orient and machines with mechanical orient and lock, I have to say the

[Emc-users] Anyone here migrate from Ahha Artisan, and breakout board question.

2010-12-09 Thread Jon Anderson
I'm really fed up with the issues that have been cropping up with my Ahha Artisan lately. I recently scored a decent Dell 2gHz computer and have done an EMC install. Sorry, don't recall at the moment the exact moment, but it's very recent if not current version. There are some minor

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread cogoman
On 12/09/2010 02:38 PM, Igor Chudov wrote: I am extremely and openly critical of many open source products, but I have to say that EMC2 is on top as far as documentation, ease of configuration, etc is concerned. To add to this excellent support, and you would know why I am very happy. EMC2 is

Re: [Emc-users] Tool change challenge (Advanced Configuration forum)

2010-12-09 Thread sam sokolik
I would vote mechanical also - That is how are old machine does it. It was pretty easy to setup. (I actually wrote a comp for the spindle gearbox/index for this machine). it sets the transmission into 'lock' mode then creeps into the dog. Checks to see that the spindle is at 0 rpm and then

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:42:34 -0800 (PST), you wrote: 3. The user interface needs a lot of critical thinking still, to bring it up to scratch. Have a good look at the latest FANUCs for instance. but the UI is miles ahead of mach3. Not for touch screen lathe users ! It also has it's quirks -

[Emc-users] Can't update some packages

2010-12-09 Thread Neil Baylis
After the software update I just performed, there were 3 packages that failed to update: libssl0.9.8 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8 -- 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.4 openssl0.9.8k-7ubuntu8 - 0.9.8k-7ubuntu8.4 linux-libc-dev 2.6.32-24.39 -- 2.6.32-26.47 When it tries to fetch the new version, the package

Re: [Emc-users] Live CD Parport mode 4 problem - Solved

2010-12-09 Thread Jeff Epler
you didn't say what epp io board you're using, but getting emc to come up generally means there's been positive comminication between pc and bosrd using epp, so you're probably in the clear. jeff --

Re: [Emc-users] Can't update some packages

2010-12-09 Thread Jeff Epler
It's OK to take package updates from ubuntu (though users who installed from the vanilla live cd and then installed with emc2-install.sh will encounter a hassle when ubuntu releases a new kernel version). so updating e.g., firefox to the latest version from ubuntu is ok. what is not ok is

Re: [Emc-users] Live CD Parport mode 4 problem - Solved

2010-12-09 Thread Neil Baylis
It's the parallel port of the motherboard of a Dell Optiplex GX280, FYI. On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Jeff Epler jep...@unpythonic.net wrote: you didn't say what epp io board you're using, but getting emc to come up generally means there's been positive comminication between pc and bosrd

Re: [Emc-users] Possible router refit

2010-12-09 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Lloyd, I have done a couple retrofits on Technos and it was not too bad if you have the modular amplifier box (up to four amplifiers in the box with a 68 pin Centronix connector on the back). I seem to recall that on a standard Centronix cable, there is one pin that does not go through, and it

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Jon Elson
Igor Chudov wrote: On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: So, that is why I supply boards, but not turnkey systems. Some of my products are used by sizable aerospace shops in daily production. And your products are pretty good. Not the bottom of the

Re: [Emc-users] Expansion of EMC

2010-12-09 Thread Chris Radek
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 10:42:44PM +, Steve Blackmore wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:42:34 -0800 (PST), you wrote: 3. The user interface needs a lot of critical thinking still, to bring it up to scratch. Have a good look at the latest FANUCs for instance. but the UI is miles ahead

[Emc-users] [OT] Charge Pump

2010-12-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
I blew out the only 74HC (74HC04 NAND) part in my junk box, so I cut my charge pump circuit down to this: ~ _ _ Buffer Card Output _| |_| |_ Charge pump in servo thread = 1kHz 0-5V -+ |

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] Charge Pump

2010-12-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 20:06 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: Some corrections: 74HC04=Hex Inverter, I tried a 2in NOR, but it's all the same. I blew out the only 74HC (74HC04 NAND) part in my junk box, so I cut my ... snip I also wired this up: +- O'Scope _ _