Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 15 December 2016 14:20:17 MC Cason wrote: [...] >I WAS hoping to make it a flying trip. My cousin had offered to > fly me up in his Mooney, but it doesn't look like we will have it done > in time. We still have to replace a couple of wing skins, add a speed > mod to the cowl, and

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-15 Thread MC Cason
On 12/15/2016 07:48 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 15 December 2016 08:41:34 MC Cason wrote: > >> On 12/15/2016 06:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> On Thursday 15 December 2016 00:32:23 MC Cason wrote: On 12/14/2016 11:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Their site says 2 weeks. I can, once

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-15 Thread MC Cason
On 12/15/2016 08:40 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 15 December 2016 at 13:41, MC Cason wrote: >> I'm allergic to hops, so no beer for me. > I know you said you were disabled, but I didn't realise it was _that_ bad! Yes, it's that bad. It makes things really awkward,

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 December 2016 at 13:41, MC Cason wrote: >I'm allergic to hops, so no beer for me. I know you said you were disabled, but I didn't realise it was _that_ bad! -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 15 December 2016 08:41:34 MC Cason wrote: > On 12/15/2016 06:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 15 December 2016 00:32:23 MC Cason wrote: > >> On 12/14/2016 11:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Their site says 2 weeks. I can, once the plugs already ordered > >>> from digi-key

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-15 Thread MC Cason
On 12/15/2016 06:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 15 December 2016 00:32:23 MC Cason wrote: > >> On 12/14/2016 11:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> Their site says 2 weeks. I can, once the plugs already ordered from >>> digi-key last Saturday arrive, have it made the next day. And being >>>

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 15 December 2016 00:32:23 MC Cason wrote: > On 12/14/2016 11:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Their site says 2 weeks. I can, once the plugs already ordered from > > digi-key last Saturday arrive, have it made the next day. And being > > retired, I don't have anything more profitable

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread MC Cason
On 12/14/2016 11:15 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Their site says 2 weeks. I can, once the plugs already ordered from > digi-key last Saturday arrive, have it made the next day. And being > retired, I don't have anything more profitable to do. Sitting on my > butt, trying to keep my diabetic feet

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 December 2016 23:43:01 MC Cason wrote: > Gene, > >You can either try to reset your password here: > https://oshpark.com/users/sign_in , or I can order them for you, > gratis. PM me off list. > >I don't know about you, but I quit making my own boards, and I've > been

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread MC Cason
Gene, You can either try to reset your password here: https://oshpark.com/users/sign_in , or I can order them for you, gratis. PM me off list. I don't know about you, but I quit making my own boards, and I've been having boards professionally made for quite a few years now. Having a

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
go on forever in > a finite world is either a madman or an economist." -Kenneth Boulding, > economist > Corporations are NOT people and money is NOT speech! > > > From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Sent: Wednesday, Dece

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 December 2016 22:03:17 MC Cason wrote: > Gene, > > https://oshpark.com/users/sign_up > Well, it did sound good, but: 1 error prohibited this user from being saved: The email. the only one I have, has been previously taken. I don't recall signing up, and if I did, my chances of

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread Greg Bernard
ubject: Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer On Wednesday 14 December 2016 13:14:34 andy pugh wrote: > On 14 December 2016 at 15:47, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: > > Haven't tried, its been screwed for close to the time limit of my > > backup st

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread MC Cason
Gene, https://oshpark.com/users/sign_up On 12/14/2016 08:53 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 14 December 2016 13:14:34 andy pugh wrote: > >> On 14 December 2016 at 15:47, Gene Heskett > wrote: >>> Haven't tried, its been screwed for close to the time limit of my >>>

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 December 2016 13:14:34 andy pugh wrote: > On 14 December 2016 at 15:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Haven't tried, its been screwed for close to the time limit of my > > backup storage setup. > > You said: > "But uspace-linuxcnc is > running, gfx and all, on

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 December 2016 13:14:34 andy pugh wrote: > On 14 December 2016 at 15:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Haven't tried, its been screwed for close to the time limit of my > > backup storage setup. > > You said: > "But uspace-linuxcnc is > running, gfx and all, on

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 December 2016 at 15:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > Haven't tried, its been screwed for close to the time limit of my backup > storage setup. You said: "But uspace-linuxcnc is running, gfx and all, on the R-Pi 3b, smoothly enough for this picky old man. " On the 29th

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 December 2016 08:16:42 andy pugh wrote: > On 14 December 2016 at 12:54, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And now its crashed. > > It is in the amanda disklist, and it crashed in the middle of being > > backed up. > > Can you roll it back to when it worked? Isn't

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 December 2016 at 12:54, Gene Heskett wrote: > And now its crashed. > It is in the amanda disklist, and it crashed in the middle of being > backed up. Can you roll it back to when it worked? Isn't that the point of backups? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 December 2016 07:04:51 andy pugh wrote: > On 14 December 2016 at 02:08, Gene Heskett wrote: > > hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15 > > Unknown board: HOST > > That looks suspicious. > > Try seeing what happens without the rest of linuxcnc in

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-14 Thread andy pugh
On 14 December 2016 at 02:08, Gene Heskett wrote: > hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15 > Unknown board: HOST That looks suspicious. Try seeing what happens without the rest of linuxcnc in the way halrun loadrt hostmot2 loadrt hm2_rpspi show pin No

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-12-13 Thread Gene Heskett
4 nearly beers. Anybody that can see whats wrong now, I'd appreciate a hand. Thanks everybody, but it seems there is always yet another lock door to kick my way thru while restoring this like is was 3 or 4 weeks back. > > > From: Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> > > To: e

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-25 Thread andy pugh
On 25 October 2016 at 04:09, Danny Miller wrote: > > Second, I ended up with the NPN proximity sensors shown here on the top > left: > > https://oceancontrols.com.au/IBS-0051.html > > Those are insidiously awkward to interface, Why? You feed them with 24V for power, and

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Chris Albertson
Cost might be an issue. When the entire computer costs $35, adding $30 to the total is quite a bit. But I'm also thinking in terms of volume and space. With Ethernet I'd need a switch and that increases the volume by maybe 30% I am thinking about Machine Kit as a motion controller, for

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Danny Miller
On 10/24/2016 3:23 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Opto's on the bob are a waste of protection with modern > stepper drivers as they all have their own optos for all inputs. > Properly driven, a 2M542 driver can exceed 350 kilohertz step rates. Put > an opto on the bob and it will often fall over,

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread dannym
I've used the 4-way tool I linked to with 12 ga to 22-24ga wire and it always gave a perfect crimp with no adjustment or finessing. Danny Mark Johnsen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > > Are you using

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread dannym
I've used the 4-way tool I linked to with 12 ga to 22-24ga wire and it always gave a perfect crimp with no adjustment or finessing. Danny Mark Johnsen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > > Are you using

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread dannym
So far I have used that 4-way tool I gave a link for with 12 ga down to like 22 or 24 ga, it always gave a perfect crimp with no fiddling or adjustment. Danny Chris Albertson wrote: > Are you using the correct color terminal for the wire gage? If so > and it

[Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Mark Johnsen
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: > Are you using the correct color terminal for the wire gage? If so > and it is still loose one trick is to fold the wire in half before you > push it in the terminal, > Probably not... I bought a bunch of

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Chris Albertson
Are you using the correct color terminal for the wire gage? If so and it is still loose one trick is to fold the wire in half before you push it in the terminal, The adjustment compensates for tool wear, You need to do this after a maybe few thousand terminals I always end up taking the whole

[Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Mark Johnsen
I have those crimpers and do like them w/ the exception that I don't know how to turn the 'gear' to make the compression force stronger. They're a little 'soft' for smaller dia wires. I pulled the screw out, but the geared washer doesn't turn (the one w/ + and -), I suppose I need to un-attach

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 24 October 2016 05:56:53 andy pugh wrote: > https://www.amazon.com/Signstek-Adjusting-Ratcheting-Crimping-AWG23-10 >/dp/B00HPRYIL8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8=1477283614=8-5=ferrul >e=1 Looks usefull, bought the pair. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 October 2016 at 05:41, Danny Miller wrote: > > BTW, about "loose connectors"- this ferrule stuff CHANGED MY LIFE on > clamp-down-on-stranded-wire: I wouldn't dream of clamping down on loose stranded wire any more. You may need more than you think. There are a couple

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 24 October 2016 01:18:55 Chris Albertson wrote: > Does the 7I90HD work with Linux CNC? It looks like it could work > It looks like it would be the board to use with an ARM Pi3. It > connects with the host using SPI which is easy to use in the Pi3 > 7I90HD is the lowest cost Mega FPGA

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 24 October 2016 00:41:02 Danny Miller wrote: > > Sounds like its the -H I'd want too. More conserving of horizontal > > real estate. And while I'm not going to add yet another potential > > loose connection to the home switch setup, these bobs I have have > > such poor terminals that I

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-10-24 07:18, Chris Albertson wrote: > Does the 7I90HD work with Linux CNC? It looks like it could work > It looks like it would be the board to use with an ARM Pi3. It > connects with the host using SPI which is easy to use in the Pi3 > 7I90HD is the lowest cost Mega FPGA board at only

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread W. Martinjak
emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 11:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer > > On Sunday 23 October 2016 12:02:58 Roland Jollivet wrote: > >> By the way, while you guys are discussing SBC's, there's also the

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
; To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer On Sunday 23 October 2016 12:02:58 Roland Jollivet wrote: > By the way, while you guys are discussing SBC's, there's also the UP > board <h

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Danny Miller
I don't know why you'd want to use that when the 7i92 is available. You're using a parallel port or serial, which has significant bandwidth and latency issues compared to ethernet. 7i92's only $30 more so I doubt cost is a big factor here. But, pretty sure it'll work with LinuxCNC. For

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Chris Albertson
Does the 7I90HD work with Linux CNC? It looks like it could work It looks like it would be the board to use with an ARM Pi3. It connects with the host using SPI which is easy to use in the Pi3 7I90HD is the lowest cost Mega FPGA board at only $59 so you could have the computer and Mesa card

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Danny Miller
> Sounds like its the -H I'd want too. More conserving of horizontal real > estate. And while I'm not going to add yet another potential loose > connection to the home switch setup, these bobs I have have such poor > terminals that I will cobble up a distribution point for all the stuff > that

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 23:37:47 Danny Miller wrote: > On 10/23/2016 4:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> No biggie, on my CNC (not an SBC) I just added a wifi USB already. > >> > >> Mesa 7i92 are totally available from the mfg: > >> > >> http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product_id

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Danny Miller
On 10/23/2016 4:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> No biggie, on my CNC (not an SBC) I just added a wifi USB already. >> >> Mesa 7i92 are totally available from the mfg: >> >> http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product_id=30 >> 2 > Not according to that web page 2 hours ago. Out of

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Chris Albertson
They do sell the Rasberry Pi with a small touch screen. But the cost is higher. The way to do a graphical interface now on a new project is to assume the user already owns a phone of tablet and access that phone of tablet over WiFi As an example look how you'd set up a new IP security camera.

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 16:25:46 Danny Miller wrote: > I use the Mesa 7i92. It is EXCELLENT. I prefer it over PCI solutions > just because I can keep the controller separate from the PC without a > lot of wiring. > So, all I have to is find one. > It works fine with my 1ms servo-thread. I

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Danny Miller
I use the Mesa 7i92. It is EXCELLENT. I prefer it over PCI solutions just because I can keep the controller separate from the PC without a lot of wiring. It works fine with my 1ms servo-thread. I have no reason to see if it goes further. It offloads all the pulse generation for the

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 13:54:59 Dave Cole wrote: > Connect to a Mesa ethernet controller? > > Dave What about the latency? Can it match the 1 to 4 kilohertz servo-thread loop I have used? It's no help that the 7i92 is out of stock on both Peters and Johns web pages. How long to source

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread bari
It has a GPU with HDMI. Ethernet is integrated for HM2_eth. HD can be over USB. The trick is building the rt kernel and llvmpipe. On 10/23/2016 08:40 AM, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > hiya, did you pick the 'one' as the best of the litter?

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Dave Cole
Connect to a Mesa ethernet controller? Dave On 10/23/2016 1:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 23 October 2016 12:02:58 Roland Jollivet wrote: > >> By the way, while you guys are discussing SBC's, there's also the UP >> board too, which is x86. >> >> Here's a fun

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 12:02:58 Roland Jollivet wrote: > By the way, while you guys are discussing SBC's, there's also the UP > board too, which is x86. > > Here's a fun video on it > too. Worth looking at... Nice board,

[Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Roland Jollivet
By the way, while you guys are discussing SBC's, there's also the UP board too, which is x86. Here's a fun video on it too. Worth looking at... On 23 October 2016 at 17:09, Dave Cole

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Dave Cole
Good to know.. I missed that but didn't order any yet. Dave On 10/23/2016 4:43 AM, Andrew wrote: > Note that there are two versions of Orange Pi: PC (1GB RAM, more > connectors) for $15 and One (512MB and less connectors) for $10. > I think I'd prefer 1GB. I'd buy immediately but I already have

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Peter; On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: > when I started listening to this list, I was intrigued by the > possibilties of using ordinary "left-over" desk top PCs (which were > getting very cheap at the time) to do extraordinary work with ordinary >

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 October 2016 at 14:27, Peter Blodow wrote: > Now, LinuxCNC has gone commercial, > and using "dedicated", purpose-made computers doesn't appeal much to me What on earth do you mean by this? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread TJoseph Powderly
with an LCD. I'd also replace the >> burner control knobs with flat things that have an LED ring to indicate >> their settings, operated via the touchscreen. >> >> >>From: Andrew <pkm...@gmail.com> >> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) <emc-

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Peter Blodow
Gene, when I started listening to this list, I was intrigued by the possibilties of using ordinary "left-over" desk top PCs (which were getting very cheap at the time) to do extraordinary work with ordinary out-of-time machinery. This wonderful idea met my desires to make ends meet and, what's

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 23 October 2016 04:43:41 Andrew wrote: > Note that there are two versions of Orange Pi: PC (1GB RAM, more > connectors) for $15 and One (512MB and less connectors) for $10. > I think I'd prefer 1GB. I'd buy immediately but I already have a spare > Pi 2 ) > Anyways, incredible prices! >

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Andrew
o: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 2:43 AM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer > > Note that there are two versions of Orange Pi: PC (1GB RAM, more > connectors) for $15 and One

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Gregg Eshelman
: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer Note that there are two versions of Orange Pi: PC (1GB RAM, more connectors) for $15 and One (512MB and less connectors) for $10. I think I'd prefer 1GB. I'd buy immediately but I already have a spare Pi 2 ) Anyways, incredible prices! Andrew 2016-10

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-23 Thread Andrew
Note that there are two versions of Orange Pi: PC (1GB RAM, more connectors) for $15 and One (512MB and less connectors) for $10. I think I'd prefer 1GB. I'd buy immediately but I already have a spare Pi 2 ) Anyways, incredible prices! Andrew 2016-10-23 1:06 GMT+03:00 Dave Cole

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-22 Thread Dave Cole
I went to the orangepi.org page and clicked on sellers and it can be bought for $9.99! Wow.. crazy! 8-) The cords will cost more than the computer! I think I need to raid the spare change jar and buy a few computers. Dave On 10/22/2016 3:52 PM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > Seems like a cheap good

Re: [Emc-users] Machinekit? --> LinuxCNC computer

2016-10-22 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
Seems like a cheap good LinuxCNC computer, maybe a split between user interface and real time is not needed. If I get it correct software is stored in flash and then I guess it also boot fast. On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:44:47 -0500 bari wrote: > The Orange pi is ~$15 and