Re: [Emc-users] gEDA and PCB-Gcode

2012-02-27 Thread Jan de Kruyf
most pcb's are specified as a 'Gerber-file'. the language is very much G-code related BUT. . . it specifies the thickness of the pen (or the aperture) and the cooordinates of the track that is drawn with it. But for milling we need the "negative" i.e. the coordinates of the isolation between the

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA and PCB-Gcode

2012-02-27 Thread Fox Mulder
PCB-Gcode is written in ULP Language. As long as gEDA doesn't support this programming language you can't use it. I think it was originally written only for eagle. Ciao, Rainer Am 27.02.2012 01:51, schrieb Gary Fiber: > Any one on this list successfully using gEDA and PCB with PCB-Gcode to

[Emc-users] gEDA and PCB-Gcode

2012-02-26 Thread Gary Fiber
Any one on this list successfully using gEDA and PCB with PCB-Gcode to mill printed Circuit Boards? Gary Fiber K8IZ -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Mi

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:33:14 AM gene heskett did opine: [huge snip] > I ran some of the housekeeping stuff on that page, essentially getting > null answers as it reported they had nothing to do. > > Perhaps there is a forum someplace in java land that could help? I'll > ask on the pcl

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 13, 2012 07:24:41 PM Fox Mulder did opine: > Am 13.01.2012 23:41, schrieb gene heskett: > > On Friday, January 13, 2012 05:13:38 PM Fox Mulder did opine: > >> Am 13.01.2012 22:04, schrieb gene heskett: > >>> On Friday, January 13, 2012 03:54:18 PM Fox Mulder did opine: > Am

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread Fox Mulder
Am 13.01.2012 23:41, schrieb gene heskett: > On Friday, January 13, 2012 05:13:38 PM Fox Mulder did opine: > >> Am 13.01.2012 22:04, schrieb gene heskett: >>> On Friday, January 13, 2012 03:54:18 PM Fox Mulder did opine: Am 13.01.2012 18:38, schrieb gene heskett: > How does one run this v

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 13, 2012 05:13:38 PM Fox Mulder did opine: > Am 13.01.2012 22:04, schrieb gene heskett: > > On Friday, January 13, 2012 03:54:18 PM Fox Mulder did opine: > >> Am 13.01.2012 18:38, schrieb gene heskett: > >>> How does one run this visolate-2.1.6.jar then? The usual "java -jar >

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread Fox Mulder
Am 13.01.2012 22:04, schrieb gene heskett: > On Friday, January 13, 2012 03:54:18 PM Fox Mulder did opine: > >> Am 13.01.2012 18:38, schrieb gene heskett: >>> How does one run this visolate-2.1.6.jar then? The usual "java -jar >>> visolate-2.1.6.jar" without a valid input filename doesn't output

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 13, 2012 03:54:18 PM Fox Mulder did opine: > Am 13.01.2012 18:38, schrieb gene heskett: > > How does one run this visolate-2.1.6.jar then? The usual "java -jar > > visolate-2.1.6.jar" without a valid input filename doesn't output any > > obvious clues to a java newbie: > > gene

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 13, 2012 03:32:54 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: > On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, gene heskett wrote: > > On Friday, January 13, 2012 12:55:02 PM andy pugh did opine: > >> On 13 January 2012 11:16, wrote: > >>> I use pcb2gcode with gEDA files without any problems > >>> Very good utili

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread Fox Mulder
Am 13.01.2012 18:38, schrieb gene heskett: > How does one run this visolate-2.1.6.jar then? The usual "java -jar > visolate-2.1.6.jar" without a valid input filename doesn't output any > obvious clues to a java newbie: > gene@coyote pcb2gcode-1.1.4]$ java -jar /usr/share/java/visolate-2.1.6.jar

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread kqt4at5v
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, gene heskett wrote: > On Friday, January 13, 2012 12:55:02 PM andy pugh did opine: > >> On 13 January 2012 11:16, wrote: >>> I use pcb2gcode with gEDA files without any problems >>> Very good utility, easy to use >> >> As it claims to output EMC2-ready G-code, presumably it

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 13, 2012 12:55:02 PM andy pugh did opine: > On 13 January 2012 11:16, wrote: > > I use pcb2gcode with gEDA files without any problems > > Very good utility, easy to use > > As it claims to output EMC2-ready G-code, presumably it could be used > as an EMC2 filter file, so that

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 13, 2012 12:51:56 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: > On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, Mark Wendt wrote: > > On 01/12/2012 04:17 PM, gene heskett wrote: > >> On Thursday, January 12, 2012 03:53:27 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: > >>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Thu,

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 13, 2012 12:19:12 PM Mark Wendt did opine: > On 01/12/2012 04:17 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > On Thursday, January 12, 2012 03:53:27 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: > >> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: >

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 13, 2012 09:57:56 AM Mark Wendt did opine: > On 01/12/2012 04:17 PM, gene heskett wrote: > > On Thursday, January 12, 2012 03:53:27 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: > >> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: >

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 January 2012 11:16, wrote: > I use pcb2gcode with gEDA files without any problems > Very good utility, easy to use As it claims to output EMC2-ready G-code, presumably it could be used as an EMC2 filter file, so that EMC2 can dimply open Gerbers? -- atp The idea that there is no such th

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread kqt4at5v
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 01/12/2012 04:17 PM, gene heskett wrote: >> On Thursday, January 12, 2012 03:53:27 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: >> >> >>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote: >>> On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday,

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/12/2012 04:17 PM, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, January 12, 2012 03:53:27 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: > > >> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: >>> On Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:43:08 PM an

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-13 Thread Ian W. Wright
On the subject of CAD software - is everyone aware that Autodesk offer free use of any of their software to students of any age and also to 'Veterans'. There are a number of programs available including AutoCad - normal, Mechanical and Electrical - Inventor, which is interesting and quite easy

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-12 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, January 12, 2012 07:06:11 PM Ed Nisley did opine: > On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 17:28 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > get another armload of 2 & 1/2" ring binders > > If you can stand to wait for a bit, I'll run off a booklet-sized version > and send it to you. The printer uses bulk ink, I'

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Nisley
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 17:28 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > get another armload of 2 & 1/2" ring binders If you can stand to wait for a bit, I'll run off a booklet-sized version and send it to you. The printer uses bulk ink, I've finally got the restack orientation down to a reflex, and I have a com

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-12 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, January 12, 2012 05:22:02 PM Fox Mulder did opine: > Am 12.01.2012 19:38, schrieb Kirk Wallace: > > On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > >> On Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:43:08 PM andy pugh did opine: > >>> On 12 January 2012 07:22, gene heskett wrote: > >> [...

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-12 Thread Fox Mulder
Am 12.01.2012 19:38, schrieb Kirk Wallace: > On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: >> On Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:43:08 PM andy pugh did opine: >> >>> On 12 January 2012 07:22, gene heskett wrote: >> [...] >>> Have you tried DesignSpark under Wine? >>> Though gEDA might be a

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 January 2012 19:36, wrote: > Like you I tried several circuit board design tools and settled on gEDA suite > Easy to learn, very configurable, and lots of symbols at www.gedasymbols.org I am just looking at it now. It has the _huge_ advantage of running natively on my Mac, and I think tha

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-12 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, January 12, 2012 03:53:27 PM kqt4a...@gmail.com did opine: > On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > >> On Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:43:08 PM andy pugh did opine: > >>> On 12 January 2012 07:22, gene heskett wrote: > >

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-12 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, January 12, 2012 03:48:50 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: > On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:43:08 PM andy pugh did opine: > > > On 12 January 2012 07:22, gene heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > > > Have you tried DesignSpark under W

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-12 Thread kqt4at5v
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: >> On Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:43:08 PM andy pugh did opine: >> >>> On 12 January 2012 07:22, gene heskett wrote: >> [...] >>> Have you tried DesignSpark under Wine? >>> Though gEDA might be a b

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA / Correcting for workpiece warpage.

2012-01-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:55 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:43:08 PM andy pugh did opine: > > > On 12 January 2012 07:22, gene heskett wrote: > [...] > > Have you tried DesignSpark under Wine? > > Though gEDA might be a better bet, being native Linux. (I have never

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-30 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2011-10-29 at 22:46 -0500, Thomas Powderly wrote: ...snip > Its a lot of time to make the symbols ( a lot , especially when you > hamfist a keyboard like i do ;) Using OpenOffice and tragesym seems to go pretty quickly. http://www.naic.edu/~rseal/geda-symbols.html http://geda.seul.org/wiki

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-29 Thread Thomas Powderly
Kir, On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Currently, I am using Inkscape to lay out and graphically connect HAL > component symbols. I edit my .hal file using the diagram as a reference. > This is working well so far, but it would be much better if, for > instance, the diagram c

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2011-10-30 at 02:38 +1100, David wrote: ... snip > Inkscape has a means of connecting lines so that they move when you move the > shape. Thanks Dave. I guess I haven't taken enough time to learn to use Inkscape. I'll try to go through the points you provided. I kind of had the impression

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2011-10-29 at 22:07 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 28.10.11 11:58, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > Currently, I am using Inkscape to lay out and graphically connect HAL > > component symbols. I edit my .hal file using the diagram as a reference. > > This is working well so far, but it would b

[Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-29 Thread David
> Currently, I am using Inkscape to lay out and graphically connect HAL > component symbols. I edit my .hal file using the diagram as a reference. > This is working well so far, but it would be much better if, for > instance, the diagram connections would move with a component if I > decide to move

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-29 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 10/29/2011 7:07 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 28.10.11 11:58, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> ... I >> started using gEDA, but this page: >> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?HalSchematicsUsingGschem > Are there strong reasons for going with gEDA? (I looked at if for PCB > design, a few years ago,

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-29 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 28.10.11 11:58, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Currently, I am using Inkscape to lay out and graphically connect HAL > component symbols. I edit my .hal file using the diagram as a reference. > This is working well so far, but it would be much better if, for > instance, the diagram connections would move

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 10/29/2011 12:35 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 21:54 -0400, Kent A. Reed wrote: > ... snip >> OK, Kirk. I grep'ped the attribute names from all the symbols in the hal >> library. Not counting misspellings, there appear to be either 13 or 14 >> unique names: >> >> ... > I only l

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 21:54 -0400, Kent A. Reed wrote: ... snip > OK, Kirk. I grep'ped the attribute names from all the symbols in the hal > library. Not counting misspellings, there appear to be either 13 or 14 > unique names: > > author > comment (also appears as commment) > description (also

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 10/28/2011 2:58 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > ... I > started using gEDA, but this page: > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?HalSchematicsUsingGschem > > does not provide a complete set of symbols. I would like to make a > complete set, but some of the symbol attributes used for the samples > from

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 10/28/2011 5:28 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > On 10/28/2011 2:58 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: >>> Currently, I am using Inkscape to lay out and graphically connect HAL >>> component symbols. I edit my .hal file using the diagram as a reference. >>> This is working well so far, but it would be much b

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-28 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 10/28/2011 2:58 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> Currently, I am using Inkscape to lay out and graphically connect HAL >> component symbols. I edit my .hal file using the diagram as a reference. >> This is working well so far, but it would be much better if, for >> instance, the diagram connections wo

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-28 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 10/28/2011 2:58 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Currently, I am using Inkscape to lay out and graphically connect HAL > component symbols. I edit my .hal file using the diagram as a reference. > This is working well so far, but it would be much better if, for > instance, the diagram connections would

[Emc-users] gEDA Symbols for HAL Diagramming

2011-10-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
Currently, I am using Inkscape to lay out and graphically connect HAL component symbols. I edit my .hal file using the diagram as a reference. This is working well so far, but it would be much better if, for instance, the diagram connections would move with a component if I decide to move it, which

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread kurniadi
> I understand your point - but don't think it applies here with the huge > difference in quality > between kicad and gEDA.  The comparison would be more like between bash and > DOS  - one is clearly > better.  I've used both of them - (and several commercial products over the > decades - kicad

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 12/29/2010 01:41 PM, Gary P. Fiber wrote: > I think some EDA tools are like driving a Ford or Chevrolet. They mostly > all do the same thing, some are a better fit for oneself than others and > some are incomplete. But mostly the tools I am referring to are free so > I can't complain to much. Co

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Jan de Kruyf
lt; > > fr...@franksworkshop.com.au> wrote: > > > >> I found KiCad easier to use. > >> http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > >> > >> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: Kirk Wallace [mailto:kwall...@wallaceco

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Gary P. Fiber
.com.au> wrote: > >> I found KiCad easier to use. >> http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Kirk Wallace [mailto:kwall...@wallacecompany.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, 28 December 2010 5:1

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Jan de Kruyf
und KiCad easier to use. > http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Kirk Wallace [mailto:kwall...@wallacecompany.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, 28 December 2010 5:19 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Gary P. Fiber
Kirk, You might have a look at http://www.delorie.com/ DJ Delorie of DJGPP fame if you will, has been doing some programming work on PCB. He also frequents the Yahoo Homebrew_PCBs group. Might be a good person to start up a conversation with about PCB. It appears he does a lot of heat transfer ma

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 10:18 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Is gEDA the best Linux based alternative to Eagle? I chose to look into gEDA because it has some HAL work done for it. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?HalSchematicsUsingGschem After a couple of days playing with gEDA. I am able

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-27 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
I found KiCad easier to use. http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > -Original Message- > From: Kirk Wallace [mailto:kwall...@wallacecompany.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 28 December 2010 5:19 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] gEDA &

Re: [Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-27 Thread Evan Foss
I use it for everything at work. There is KiCad which is more eagle like but it is not as flexable IMHO. On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Is gEDA the best Linux based alternative to Eagle? > -- > Kirk Wallace > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ > http://www.wallace

[Emc-users] gEDA

2010-12-27 Thread Kirk Wallace
Is gEDA the best Linux based alternative to Eagle? -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html California, USA -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (R