Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 January 2013 00:09, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: My VW Touran has a Webasto without a pump, they have a burner as standard equipment because the TDI's doesn't come up in temp without it when it's cold outside This is actually the issue that is taking up most of my time at the

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-21 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/1/20 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: Nearly any modern car will have provision somewhere on the engine for a block heater. It is also likely to be in the right place too. Have you looked for a manufacturer-original part? No, I have not tried to look, because I have never heard that VW or

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Thank You, guys, for the answers! 2013/1/20 Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com: All my cars have, and all my former cars had, electrical heaters. You don't need a pump. There are universal models that sits in the cooler hose that works flawlessly. Well, there has to be something that makes

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread Kent A. Reed
Viesturs: A quick check with a search engine tells me there are tons of discussions of the relative merits of different heating techniques including opinionated folk living in extreme climates like northern Canada and Alaska, just to cite North America. If I were adding a heater to an

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread John Stewart
Viesturs; We are in for another bout of cold weather, with night time lows of -30C. I have a block heater in my little Toyota Matrix, and when it's below about -20, I plug it in, and turn it on an hour or two before we try to start the car in the morning. It *does* make a difference. The

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread John Stewart
Viesturs; Another really off-topic post. Years ago, my wife at the time and I purchased a new diesel VW Golf. It came with the standard one year, anywhere in the world we'll fix it warranty. 6 months later, we were living in the Netherlands, and this car made it over with us. One month

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 20 January 2013 12:23:36 Viesturs Lācis did opine: Message additions Copyright Sunday 20 January 2013 by Gene Heskett Thank You, guys, for the answers! 2013/1/20 Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com: All my cars have, and all my former cars had, electrical heaters. You don't need a

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/1/20 Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com Thank You, guys, for the answers! 2013/1/20 Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com: All my cars have, and all my former cars had, electrical heaters. You don't need a pump. There are universal models that sits in the cooler hose that works

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread andy pugh
On 19 January 2013 21:22, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: There are lots of options for auxiliary heating with fuel and electricity. Strangely enough, despite living somewhere where -5C is unusually cold, I know quite a bit about this subject. Nearly any modern car will have

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/1/20 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com Nearly any modern car will have provision somewhere on the engine for a block heater. It is also likely to be in the right place too. Have you looked for a manufacturer-original part? Nearly every engine ever built sinces the 60's, I would say. Even my

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.comwrote: Winter has arrived with temperatures below -20C, so I finally decided to something about inability to start up car's engine in these cold mornings. There are lots of options for auxiliary heating with fuel and

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-20 Thread Peter Loron
We just had a cheap add-on mains-powered block heater (inline with the cooling system, as I recall) in our gas cars when we lived in upstate New York. -20C was common in the winter. -Pete On Jan 20, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/1/20 andy pugh

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-19 Thread Sven Wesley
All my cars have, and all my former cars had, electrical heaters. You don't need a pump. There are universal models that sits in the cooler hose that works flawlessly. There's a silicone/rubber plate model nowadays that you glue directly onto the oil pan that works pretty well too. Some guys use

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-19 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 19.01.13 23:22, Viesturs Lācis wrote: ... I do not think that it is possible in car, so the question is: Can anyone suggest a small pump, powered by AC electricity and, what is most important, that will work in -20C, -30C temperature? I was thinking about all these aquarium pumps - size is

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-19 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 20.01.13 02:42, Sven Wesley wrote: All my cars have, and all my former cars had, electrical heaters. You don't need a pump. There are universal models that sits in the cooler hose that works flawlessly. There's a silicone/rubber plate model nowadays that you glue directly onto the oil

Re: [Emc-users] OT - liquid pump for really cold temperature

2013-01-19 Thread dave
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 14:12 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 20.01.13 02:42, Sven Wesley wrote: All my cars have, and all my former cars had, electrical heaters. You don't need a pump. There are universal models that sits in the cooler hose that works flawlessly. There's a