Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced MachineController

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Joni
That's still beeing discussed. The issue is a bit deeper than simply renaming the mailin lists. The same is true about the sourceforge unix project name (we're not yet 100% clear of the implications). As of the lists, maybe it would be worth taking the opportunity to move them to linuxcnc.org

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the EnhancedMachine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Joni
The only downside is the confusion factor, there are thousands of people who have heard of our EMC2 as another CNC control program, and now will not know what happened to it. For instance, there is an EMC forum on CNCZone. I suppose that needs to be renamed, too. Since we're not

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced MachineController

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Joni
I join this opinion based on the facts that this (EMC2) project has a long history under its current name. It's ridiculous to see a not exceptionally successful company (http://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=EMC) terrorize nonprofit organization especially when the product has absolutely nothing to

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced MachineController

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Joni
On 17.01.12 21:31, Jack Coats wrote: IMHO, we need to keep references to EMC and EMC2 on the web site as 'historical artifacts', and also reference the NIST project that started the initial 'Enhanced Machine Controller' project and named it. Like in

Re: [Emc-users] eagle-6.1.0 (again)

2012-01-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.01.12 00:59, gene heskett wrote: Well, the only marks on the package show on top of it and they are confusing. On about a 20x blowup of the pdf'd brochures page showing the pin names, it looks like this for a bottom view. led end sensor end

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Lester Caine
Chris Radek wrote: As a result, it was necessary to choose a new name for the software. Of the options the board considered, there was consensus that LinuxCNC is the best option, as this has been our website's name for years. This does seem to be something of a mouthful ... Did nobody

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Caroline
I would have expected some public discussion about new names etc before a final decision From when I went to get a trade mark it only covers an area this allows multiple entities to own the same letters. Dave Caroline On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.01.12 16:39, Geoff wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:16:13 pm Chris Radek wrote: In the spring of 2011, the LinuxCNC Board of Directors was contacted by a law firm representing EMC Corporation (www.emc.com) about the use of EMC and EMC2 to identify the software offered on linuxcnc.org.

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.01.12 09:06, Dave Caroline wrote: I would have expected some public discussion about new names etc before a final decision Yes, but it was probably frustrating enough to haggle with the litigious lot, without becoming the meat in a sandwich. After we've all blown off steam, I kinda figure

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the EnhancedMachine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Joni
Do you think the other mob are in danger of being lawyered by a company that makes razors? Heh, might be ;) Otoh, their domains are not very close to still allow valid grounds for the lawyers.. Regards, Alex --

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/17/2012 09:16 PM, Chris Radek wrote: In the spring of 2011, the LinuxCNC Board of Directors was contacted by a law firm representing EMC Corporation (www.emc.com) about the use of EMC and EMC2 to identify the software offered on linuxcnc.org. EMC Corporation has registered various

Re: [Emc-users] eagle-6.1.0 (again)

2012-01-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/17/2012 09:46 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 17.01.12 20:30, gene heskett wrote: On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 07:15:33 PM Fox Mulder did opine: Am 17.01.2012 21:47, schrieb gene heskett: Checking requirements, I see that libpng14.so.14 is required so you helped me

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced MachineController

2012-01-18 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/18/2012 03:15 AM, Alex Joni wrote: That's still beeing discussed. The issue is a bit deeper than simply renaming the mailin lists. The same is true about the sourceforge unix project name (we're not yet 100% clear of the implications). As of the lists, maybe it would be worth taking the

[Emc-users] PC shutdown

2012-01-18 Thread andy pugh
I have a D510 + PicoPSU system. The PC shuts down as expected, but I would rather like it to power-off the power supplies and monitor too. Has anyone set up such a system? I am thinking in terms of a relay controlled by the PicoPSU 5V or 12v output to switch the 240Vac with a momentary switch in

Re: [Emc-users] PC shutdown

2012-01-18 Thread John Thornton
Dang, I just googled PicoPSU and them things are tiny... If I replace my power supply with one of those I could mount all kinds of stuff in the case. John On 1/18/2012 6:12 AM, andy pugh wrote: I have a D510 + PicoPSU system. The PC shuts down as expected, but I would rather like it to

Re: [Emc-users] eagle-6.1.0 (again)

2012-01-18 Thread Ed Nisley
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 00:03 -0500, gene heskett wrote: Alright, how about this one? That'll work! [grin] And who knows? My Larval Engineer may remember how to poke around inside the safety covers without dying, in some future day when they desperately need a fix right *now*... -- Ed

Re: [Emc-users] eagle-6.1.0 (again)

2012-01-18 Thread Ed Nisley
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 13:46 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: Nope, to update the library info used in an open schematic editor, hit Library-Update and select the modified library, or just use Library-Update_All. That's exactly what I expected to work, but it didn't:

Re: [Emc-users] PC shutdown

2012-01-18 Thread yann jautard
I think the 12V relay is a good idea. or as an alternative you may use this kind of device, with a master/slave function : http://www.priceminister.com/offer/buy/6668553/Bloc-Multiprise-Parafoudre-Parasurtenseur-Fonction-Master-Slave-Onduleur-Peripherique-d-alimentation.html Le 18/01/2012

Re: [Emc-users] PC shutdown

2012-01-18 Thread James Louis
Andy, My Servomill also runs on a D510MO and it is plugged into the master outlet of a power strip called an Eco-strip (careful when googling!). It uses a USB port to switch all the other outlets ON/OFF when the D510MO turns ON/OFF. It's simple and works well. Jim - Original Message

Re: [Emc-users] PC shutdown

2012-01-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 January 2012 13:28, James Louis james.lo...@gastechnology.org wrote: My Servomill also runs on a D510MO and it is plugged into the master outlet of a power strip called an Eco-strip I don't think that will work for me, as the main thing I want to do is turn of the 12V PSU which powers

Re: [Emc-users] PC shutdown

2012-01-18 Thread Dave
They work well too.I have used a lot of them with zero failures over the last several years. Watch out as there is a chinese import clone that is being sold on Ebay for not much less than the original. Dave On 1/18/2012 7:22 AM, John Thornton wrote: Dang, I just googled PicoPSU and them

Re: [Emc-users] PC shutdown

2012-01-18 Thread Dave
On 1/18/2012 9:00 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 18 January 2012 13:28, James Louisjames.lo...@gastechnology.org wrote: My Servomill also runs on a D510MO and it is plugged into the master outlet of a power strip called an Eco-strip I don't think that will work for me, as the main

Re: [Emc-users] eagle-6.1.0 (again)

2012-01-18 Thread Eric Keller
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:47 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Greets all; Going thru the docs for eagle, in this case following the tutorial_en.pdf, This has been bothering me for a while, and I doubt I'm the only one. You ask a lot of non-emc specific questions on the emc list.

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:02:01 AM Lester Caine did opine: Chris Radek wrote: As a result, it was necessary to choose a new name for the software. Of the options the board considered, there was consensus that LinuxCNC is the best option, as this has been our website's name for

Re: [Emc-users] eagle-6.1.0 (again)

2012-01-18 Thread Dennis J. Murray
I really enjoy Gene's war stories!! I, too am a (relatively) old codger, but still young at heart. At the risk of being too far off topic, I'd like to add one more war story to Gene's list. Back in the early 60's, I had a 2-way radio repair and maintenance business. Remember, you

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Matt Shaver
I just wanted to say that I agree with this decision! EMC was always too short, and such a common letter combination to make an effective search term on the internet. LinuxCNC is also much more descriptive of the software's purpose as Chris' message said. It's sort of a milestone for this project

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced MachineController

2012-01-18 Thread Matt Shaver
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 10:15:32 +0200 Alex Joni alex.j...@robcon.ro wrote: As of the lists, maybe it would be worth taking the opportunity to move them to linuxcnc.org (and get rid of these pesky ads). If nothing else, this. See? Yet another improvement to our collective condition! One other

Re: [Emc-users] eagle-6.1.0 (again)

2012-01-18 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:54:36 AM Ed Nisley did opine: On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 13:46 +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: Nope, to update the library info used in an open schematic editor, hit Library-Update and select the modified library, or just use Library-Update_All. That's

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] eagle-6.1.0 (again)

2012-01-18 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:07:49 AM Eric Keller did opine: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:47 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Greets all; Going thru the docs for eagle, in this case following the tutorial_en.pdf, This has been bothering me for a while, and I doubt I'm the

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On Jan 18, 2012, at 08:02 , gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:02:01 AM Lester Caine did opine: Did nobody consider simply 'LMC' Linux Machine Controller ... Humm, that does have a certain poetic sound to it. It's no good, we'd just get sued by the Large Magellanic Cloud…

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] eagle-6.1.0 (again)

2012-01-18 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:29:47 AM Dennis J. Murray did opine: I really enjoy Gene's war stories!! I, too am a (relatively) old codger, but still young at heart. [...] Good story! IN 1964, I took my first job in computer programming and stuck to it for the rest of my 36 year

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:38:39 AM Sebastian Kuzminsky did opine: On Jan 18, 2012, at 08:02 , gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:02:01 AM Lester Caine did opine: Did nobody consider simply 'LMC' Linux Machine Controller ... Humm, that does have a certain

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
In all seriousness, I'm perfectly happy with the Board's decision to rename the project to LinuxCNC. It's a good name, and we've already been using it in our web presence, which is perhaps the most important moniker. Is there a shorter version of our new name that we can use in parallel with

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 18 January 2012 18:55, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote: In all seriousness, I'm perfectly happy with the Board's decision to rename the project to LinuxCNC. It's a good name, and we've already been using it in our web presence, which is perhaps the most important moniker. Is

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced MachineController

2012-01-18 Thread Belli Button
There is an 'LNC' CNC controller, probably just EMC in a box. - Original Message - From: Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced MachineController

2012-01-18 Thread dave
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:20:28 +0200 Belli Button be...@iafrica.com wrote: emc unique? ha! http://www.acronymgeek.com/EMC http://www.acronymgeek.com/EMC2 There is an 'LNC' CNC controller, probably just EMC in a box. - Original Message - From: Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com

[Emc-users] LinuxCNC: the sourceforge renaming

2012-01-18 Thread Jeff Epler
Sourceforge has a process for renaming projects that apply to circumstances like ours. When this is done, we expect most information presently on sourceforge to appear but at new URLs that reflect our project's new official name. The mailing lists will have also have new names (linuxcnc-users

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced MachineController

2012-01-18 Thread Alan Condit
What about EMCNC? Alan --- Alan Condit 1085 Tierra Ct. Woodburn, OR 97071 Email -- acon...@ipns.com Home-Office (503) 982-0906 -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online

Re: [Emc-users] PC shutdown

2012-01-18 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: I have a D510 + PicoPSU system. The PC shuts down as expected, but I would rather like it to power-off the power supplies and monitor too. Has anyone set up such a system? I am thinking in terms of a relay controlled by the PicoPSU 5V or 12v output to switch the 240Vac with

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 January 2012 02:16, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: LinuxCNC is the best option, as this has been our website's name for years. Ah well, I was probably never going to get it to compile on MacOS anyway…. -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Jon Elson
Matt Shaver wrote: I just wanted to say that I agree with this decision! EMC was always too short, and such a common letter combination to make an effective search term on the internet. Well, I don't fully agree, but ElectroMagnetic Compatibility is another EMC that causes confusion in the

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Jack Coats
Open Machine Controller or OpenCNC would have been better name. Still holding out hope that the software could be supported on different platforms. For now, LinuxCNC is the monniker. At least it isn't GNUCNC -- Keep

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/18/2012 2:39 PM, Jack Coats wrote: Open Machine Controller or OpenCNC would have been better name. Still holding out hope that the software could be supported on different platforms. For now, LinuxCNC is the monniker. At least it isn't GNUCNC Or, in classic Unix fashion, YACNC. But

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Joni
OpenCNC already exists. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Jack Coats j...@coats.org wrote: Open Machine Controller or OpenCNC would have been better name. Still holding out hope that the software could be supported on different platforms. For now, LinuxCNC

[Emc-users] PLC to stepper hardware

2012-01-18 Thread Karl Schmidt
Can anyone recommend some stepper motor driver that one could send serial coordinate commands? I'm thinking that something like that exists? Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com

Re: [Emc-users] PLC to stepper hardware

2012-01-18 Thread Przemek Klosowski
Plenty---most commercial 'stepper motor contollers' are designed to be driven by serial commands, because that's easier to integrate in the industrial world. Galil, Oregon Micro are two that we used, but Google has over 7 million hits for stepper motor controller serial port. Such controllers

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread dave
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:46:01 -0500 Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com wrote: On 1/18/2012 2:39 PM, Jack Coats wrote: Open Machine Controller or OpenCNC would have been better name. Still holding out hope that the software could be supported on different platforms. For now, LinuxCNC is the

[Emc-users] Changing the scale factor of an axis

2012-01-18 Thread Lars Andersson
I would like to dynamically change the flow rate of material feed of my plastic rapid prototyper. The material is dispensed by a step motor on the A-axis. A is running proportional to the combined speed of X and Y (always counting up) . The scale factor for A is set at the G-code generation, it is

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/18 Alex Joni alex.j...@robcon.ro: OpenCNC already exists. Yes, here is something about it: http://www.mdsi2.com/solutions/cnc_controls/ BTW do I understand correctly that emc.com guys do not have a problem with the official name - Enhanced Machine Controller? If that is true then I

Re: [Emc-users] Changing the scale factor of an axis

2012-01-18 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/18 Lars Andersson l...@larsandersson.com: net flowrate stepgen.3.position-scale =  input.0.abs-rx-position This is not allowed, stepgen.3.position-scale is a parameter, not a pin Then You can solve the cause of the problem - change it from parameter to pin. In simple HAL module it

Re: [Emc-users] Changing the scale factor of an axis

2012-01-18 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
I think as long as you're modeling your extruder as an axis, you can't change it's speed without also changing the speed of all the other axes (by using the feed override knob on the motion controller). Also, as long as your extruder's position is controlled by the motion controller, you won't

Re: [Emc-users] Changing the scale factor of an axis

2012-01-18 Thread John Thornton
Lars, Take a look at the THC comp to see how I hijacked the position commanded for Z and lied about the position feedback. John On 1/18/2012 2:53 PM, Ben Jackson wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 09:41:12PM +0100, Lars Andersson wrote: I try manually while running: setp

Re: [Emc-users] Changing the scale factor of an axis

2012-01-18 Thread andy pugh
On 18 January 2012 20:41, Lars Andersson l...@larsandersson.com wrote: This is not allowed, stepgen.3.position-scale is a parameter, not a pin You could put a scale component between the axis and the stepgen. I think, though, that you might have more luck putting the A stepgen into velocity

Re: [Emc-users] PLC to stepper hardware

2012-01-18 Thread Greg Bernard
I am currently working on a project using such a product from J.R. Kerr: http://jrkerr.com/boards.html I didn't buy the complete board, instead opting to build my own using the chip he also sells. (I did this partly to save a few bucks but mostly because his stock board only does

Re: [Emc-users] PLC to stepper hardware

2012-01-18 Thread John Harris
Lin Engineering sell a driver RS325, that takes serial commands using RS485 as opposed to RS232. This has the advantage of being able to connect multiple drivers to the same PC port. RS232 to RS485 adapters are available from several places, as well as USB to RS485 adapters

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Dave
Seeing that EMC2 has been stung by the EMC Corporation for trademark infringment, why isn't Gillette pursuing Mach3 CNC ??? Or is it only a matter of time? On 1/18/2012 3:05 PM, dave wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:46:01 -0500 Kent A. Reedknbr...@erols.com wrote: On 1/18/2012 2:39

[Emc-users] VFD + Induction motor closed position loop

2012-01-18 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Hello to everybody on this list. I've been working for almost two years with LinuxCNC software (the old EMC hehe) and steppers driving an old Schaudt cam/lobe grinding machine. Now it's time to improve the system and change the steppers for something with more speed, specially for the Z axis.

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
I know it's tongue-in-cheek, but since several people have mentioned this I thought I'd reply. EMC corp has a trademark in a very related field. I don't recall the specific area, but it had to do with computer hardware and a particular area of computer software (backup most likely). Though

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Payson
FWIW, Mach3 is relatively safe from attack. Trademarks apply to a particular domain only, and razor blades and software are quite different domain. In addition, there must be reasonable reason to believe that the consumer would be confused by the use of the term, and it is highly unlikely that

Re: [Emc-users] VFD + Induction motor closed position loop

2012-01-18 Thread robert
i have tryed this also u can get close u will not get Servo performance/position resolutions but u can get close.. hence why they say servo like on VFDs spec sheets and it does make a big diff what level of VFD you use also some are alot better at this than others.. Yaskawa do some very

Re: [Emc-users] VFD + Induction motor closed position loop

2012-01-18 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Thanks Robert for your answer. I'll be chechink the Yaskawa models and see if I can find a good dealer around here to request quotation. So you tell that you tried this combination with EMC?. And how did it work? It was good for positioning?. I don't need fast interpolations, only individual

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Panetta(The Spam Catcher)
What exactly did they copyright? EMC? or /Enhanced Machine Controller/? EMC is just an acronym - can they actually claim an acronym? As someone else said - their lawyers are trying to justify their jobs. What about all of the - Electric Membership Corporations - EMC? I belong to and get my power

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Mike Payson
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Dave Panetta(The Spam Catcher) thespamcatc...@bellsouth.net wrote: What exactly did they copyright? EMC? or /Enhanced Machine Controller/? EMC is just an acronym - can they actually claim an acronym? As someone else said - their lawyers are trying to justify

Re: [Emc-users] eagle-6.1.0 (again)

2012-01-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 18.01.12 10:01, gene heskett wrote: I was under the impression that there was a hidden linkage between the schematic and the footprint. The hidden linkage is the pin mapping in the package. The package automatically appears in the board view when the symbol is placed in the schematic.

Re: [Emc-users] Changing the scale factor of an axis

2012-01-18 Thread Karl Cunningham
On 01/18/2012 12:41 PM, Lars Andersson wrote: This immediately gives a joint 3 following error even for a very small change. Can I work around this? The problem appears to be, as someone pointed out, that changing the scale factor also causes a step in the output due to a multiplying the

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
Interestingly, if you google emc opensource, buried among all the excellent enhanced machine controller articles, there is reference to the other emc and their foray into open source. Maybe this is how they get their google search rating up. -Original Message- From: Stephen Wille

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC: The new name of the Enhanced Machine Controller

2012-01-18 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 01/18/2012 07:30 AM, Matt Shaver wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:50:41 +1100 Erik Christiansendva...@internode.on.net wrote: I'm only having trouble pretending that their case has any legitimacy. It's not legitimate. Unfortunately, many recent activities originating in the U.S. are