Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 06/03/2012 11:39 AM, gene heskett wrote: snippage As for the various methods of blackening brass, discussed here previously, most were butt ugly, giving all the colors of a good skin bruise rather than a nice flat black. I believe that was because of my inability to get all the cutting

[Emc-users] Eagle, libpng14.so.14, and ldconfig [Was: Encoder discs]

2012-06-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 03.06.12 15:53, gene heskett wrote: Eagle is bing a pita about upgrading, I have several copies of libpng14.so.14 on the system, but the installer can't find them even when added to ld.so.config.d. Grump! Based on that limited information, Gene, I can only offer a couple of rounds from the

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 06:31:34 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 06/03/2012 11:39 AM, gene heskett wrote: snippage As for the various methods of blackening brass, discussed here previously, most were butt ugly, giving all the colors of a good skin bruise rather than a nice flat black. I

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread John Thornton
Yesterday I made some parts and had a giant fan on the drive to see if it is a cooling problem. After about an hour or so the drive tripped out. I forgot to mention that the only thing moving during these faults is the Z axis and it is moving up ie the most loaded direction. Of course I can

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 06/04/2012 06:39 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, June 04, 2012 06:31:34 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 06/03/2012 11:39 AM, gene heskett wrote: snippage As for the various methods of blackening brass, discussed here previously, most were butt ugly, giving all the colors of a

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 June 2012 07:26, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: It is extremely sensitive to this bit of timing variation caused by a nominally 5 thou non concentricity in the way it is mounted (I believe because the center hole in the disk is slightly undersized, forcing one side of the hole to

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Ed Nisley
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 21:08 -0400, Dave wrote: buy one or two PID controllers. The slicing software can produce different extrusion temperatures for different layers (or classes of layers), so the printer needs programmatic control over *everything*. You may as well integrate all that in

Re: [Emc-users] Eagle, libpng14.so.14, and ldconfig [Was: Encoder discs]

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 06:41:27 AM Erik Christiansen did opine: On 03.06.12 15:53, gene heskett wrote: Eagle is bing a pita about upgrading, I have several copies of libpng14.so.14 on the system, but the installer can't find them even when added to ld.so.config.d. Grump! Based on

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 08:01:51 AM andy pugh did opine: On 4 June 2012 07:26, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: It is extremely sensitive to this bit of timing variation caused by a nominally 5 thou non concentricity in the way it is mounted (I believe because the center hole in the

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread Dave
If you can, pull off the bus covers and attach some wires to the bus and alligator clip to those wires with a good multimeter and leave it set on Volts DC while you run the machine. Be careful though as cheap jumper leads are probably not good for 600 volts. But most machine tool wire ( the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Dave
On 6/4/2012 7:20 AM, Ed Nisley wrote: Methinks anyone working on such a contraption would receive a visit from a nattily attired lawyer who would explain his employer's view of the US patent system... Who hold the patents? Dave

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 06/04/2012 08:00 AM, gene heskett wrote: Dawn is a much better degreaser. Fella talked me into using it a few years back to wash down the surface of my cane rods before varnishing, and it worked great. I started using it on the metal stuff I was bluing and got more consistent blues of the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Dave
On 6/4/2012 7:20 AM, Ed Nisley wrote: The slicing software can produce different extrusion temperatures for different layers (or classes of layers), so the printer needs programmatic control over*everything*. I did not know that. Some PID controllers (maybe some cheap ones??) have Modbus

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Dave
On 6/4/2012 8:46 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: It's getting much harder to get 200 proof pure ethyl alcohol anymore though. Our wondrous ATF has regulated it so much. I have about 1/2 pint of it sitting here at work on my shelf. Yep, they are certain that you are going to guzzle it down at any

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread John Thornton
After the trip yesterday the only lights on the infeed unit that was on was 3 external enable not present and 4 DC link charged. The spindle drive lcd was 6 iirc and the Z was 3. I could not find anything on what the drive lcd's mean. I'm not having any luck in borrowing an isolation

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread John Thornton
My DMM leads have alligator clips so that is not a problem to watch the DC buss while running. At least when the Z move to clear position is about to fault out I have a second or two notice with the tone change to try and focus on the DMM readout. John On 6/4/2012 7:41 AM, Dave wrote: If you

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: If anyone has a cheap way to do effective - accurate temperature measurement - on the cheap, I'd like to know about it. :-) cheap=thermistors. Who cares they are non-linear if you're using a digital controller? ;) Linearize them

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 06/04/2012 09:02 AM, Dave wrote: On 6/4/2012 8:46 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: It's getting much harder to get 200 proof pure ethyl alcohol anymore though. Our wondrous ATF has regulated it so much. I have about 1/2 pint of it sitting here at work on my shelf. Yep, they are

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 08:58:57 AM Dave did opine: If you can, pull off the bus covers and attach some wires to the bus and alligator clip to those wires with a good multimeter and leave it set on Volts DC while you run the machine. Be careful though as cheap jumper leads are probably not

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 09:24:51 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 06/04/2012 08:00 AM, gene heskett wrote: Dawn is a much better degreaser. Fella talked me into using it a few years back to wash down the surface of my cane rods before varnishing, and it worked great. I started using it on

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 06/04/2012 09:28 AM, gene heskett wrote: It's getting much harder to get 200 proof pure ethyl alcohol anymore though. Our wondrous ATF has regulated it so much. I have about 1/2 pint of it sitting here at work on my shelf. Phillips I assume? AKA Kentucky spring water...

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread ceenbot
Hi John, Too bad you can't connect your machine to a solid 3-ph line to see if the same issue happens regardless of the power source. I had a handful of issues with my '86 VMC like loose PC boards, oxidized connectors, etc. Now that it gets more use it seems to be doing better. Keeping the

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 09:45:18 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 06/04/2012 09:28 AM, gene heskett wrote: It's getting much harder to get 200 proof pure ethyl alcohol anymore though. Our wondrous ATF has regulated it so much. I have about 1/2 pint of it sitting here at work on my shelf.

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread Dave
You just need yet another manual! ;-) Its all there, on the web, someplace. The trick is finding it. :-) http://www.automation.siemens.com/doconweb/pdf/840C_1101_E/611a_iaa.pdf?p=1 Page 8/48 says that a 3 on the drive module display is a motor overheat situation. I'm not sure if this

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 06/04/2012 09:52 AM, gene heskett wrote: If we can get non-DNA, non-isopropyl alcohol from Ace, I'll stop by there on the way home from work today. ;-) Mark I'll let you know before the day is over. It also seems to make good shellac, but a funny thing, I needed some 4lb thinned

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread Dave
You need a shop cat! Unfortunately shop cats are not effective deterrents to raccoons and possums. But I don't have any mice... ;-) Dave On 6/4/2012 9:52 AM, ceen...@in-front.com wrote: Hi John, Too bad you can't connect your machine to a solid 3-ph line to see if the same issue

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Ed Nisley
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 08:44 -0400, Dave wrote: Who hold the patents? The big players that have been doing 3D extrusion since the mid 80s, the ones with positive cash flow and actual engineering teams. The Wikipedia article has a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_printing#Industrial_uses

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread dave
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:39:50 -0400 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Monday, June 04, 2012 06:31:34 AM Mark Wendt did opine: On 06/03/2012 11:39 AM, gene heskett wrote: snippage As for the various methods of blackening brass, discussed here previously, most were butt

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread dave
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:40:51 -0400 Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: On 06/04/2012 09:28 AM, gene heskett wrote: It's getting much harder to get 200 proof pure ethyl alcohol anymore though. Our wondrous ATF has regulated it so much. I have about 1/2 pint of it sitting here at

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread dave
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:59:02 -0400 Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: On 06/04/2012 09:52 AM, gene heskett wrote: If we can get non-DNA, non-isopropyl alcohol from Ace, I'll stop by there on the way home from work today. ;-) Mark I'll let you know before the day is

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Dave
You from eastern KY? On 6/4/2012 11:40 AM, dave wrote: Naturally, all of us keep a still with ground glass joints and a pound of sodium around just so we can make 200 proof.;-) 170 proof alcohol is a little hard to be around, the vapor can pretty much knock you over if you open a hatch

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread John Thornton
My meter is a Fluke 75 rated at 1000vdc and 750vac so I should be ok... I've had it connected to the 600vdc buss before for quite some time when messing about with the RPC a few weeks ago. John On 6/4/2012 8:23 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, June 04, 2012 08:58:57 AM Dave did opine: If

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread Dave
I use a Fluke 77 for the same thing and I have never had any problems yet also. Dave On 6/4/2012 11:59 AM, John Thornton wrote: My meter is a Fluke 75 rated at 1000vdc and 750vac so I should be ok... I've had it connected to the 600vdc buss before for quite some time when messing about with

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 06/04/2012 11:40 AM, dave wrote: Nope, the label on this one sez Ethyl Alcohol, U.S.P 200 proof Anhydrous For industrial use only Bottled by The Warner-Graham Company in Cockeysville, MD, just down the road a bit from me here at work. 200 proof is anhydrous only until you open the

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread dave
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:18:47 -0400 Mark Wendt mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil wrote: On 06/04/2012 11:40 AM, dave wrote: Nope, the label on this one sez Ethyl Alcohol, U.S.P 200 proof Anhydrous For industrial use only Bottled by The Warner-Graham Company in Cockeysville, MD, just down the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Jun 4, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: If anyone has a cheap way to do effective - accurate temperature measurement - on the cheap, I'd like to know about it. :-) cheap=thermistors. Who cares they are

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 02:01:38 PM Mark Wendt did opine: On 06/04/2012 09:52 AM, gene heskett wrote: If we can get non-DNA, non-isopropyl alcohol from Ace, I'll stop by there on the way home from work today. ;-) Mark I'll let you know before the day is over. It also seems to

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread Jon Elson
ceen...@in-front.com wrote: Hi John, Too bad you can't connect your machine to a solid 3-ph line to see if the same issue happens regardless of the power source. He ran it on a Diesel generator, and it did NOT trip. So, it is SOMTHING about the power source. Jon

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Dave
On 6/4/2012 1:51 PM, Jeshua Lacock wrote: On Jun 4, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Davee...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: If anyone has a cheap way to do effective - accurate temperature measurement - on the cheap, I'd like to know about it. :-)

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 02:09:42 PM Dave did opine: You need a shop cat! Unfortunately shop cats are not effective deterrents to raccoons and possums. That depends on the cat. I met my first maine coon in about '61. My dog at the time, an 85 lb German Shepherd bitch, had a hate for

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 02:37:59 PM Dave did opine: You from eastern KY? On 6/4/2012 11:40 AM, dave wrote: Naturally, all of us keep a still with ground glass joints and a pound of sodium around just so we can make 200 proof.;-) 170 proof alcohol is a little hard to be around, the

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 02:42:15 PM John Thornton did opine: My meter is a Fluke 75 rated at 1000vdc and 750vac so I should be ok... I've had it connected to the 600vdc buss before for quite some time when messing about with the RPC a few weeks ago. John [...] That should be ok, but many

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread ceenbot
Did John run it for an hour or longer to be able to repeat the only one hour run time situation? I forgot what the capacity of the borrowed generator was to compare it to a 15HP weak leg system. Even if the generator varied in speed and voltage when loaded, one thing should be fairly certain

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Dave
On 6/4/2012 2:41 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, June 04, 2012 02:37:59 PM Dave did opine: You from eastern KY? On 6/4/2012 11:40 AM, dave wrote: Naturally, all of us keep a still with ground glass joints and a pound of sodium around just so we can make 200 proof.;-)

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Joachim Franek
On Monday 04 June 2012 19:53:48 Jeshua Lacock wrote: ... and I am all for doing things the right way, I agree. do you think it makes sense if we all collaboratively work towards a common goal? Yes. It just seems that several people are going in several directions, and we might all

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Ed Nisley
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 11:53 -0600, Jeshua Lacock wrote: you are basing this on what? Rumor, supposition, hearsay, random tales, and watching the slow-motion destruction of mobile phone innovation through internecine IP warfare. The fact that a judge had to rule that APIs can't be copyrighted

[Emc-users] gladevcp tabs

2012-06-04 Thread Brian May
I might be missing something obvious, but how do I add a second gladevcp tab in the axis window. I have in my ini file: GLADEVCP=-u hitcounter.py right_panel.ui EMBED_TAB_NAME=offsets EMBED_TAB_COMMAND=halcmd loadusr -Wn gladevcpoffsets gladevcp -c gladevcpoffsets -u hitcounter.py -x {XID}

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread dave
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:25:15 -0400 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: On 6/4/2012 2:41 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, June 04, 2012 02:37:59 PM Dave did opine: You from eastern KY? On 6/4/2012 11:40 AM, dave wrote: Naturally, all of us keep a still with ground glass

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread dave
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:34:20 -0400 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Monday, June 04, 2012 02:09:42 PM Dave did opine: You need a shop cat! Unfortunately shop cats are not effective deterrents to raccoons and possums. That depends on the cat. I met my first maine coon in

Re: [Emc-users] Got my 5i25... now trying to set it up.

2012-06-04 Thread Bryce Johnson
I shopvacced all the PCI ports and reseated it. Now it comes up! Thanks Peter! On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Bryce Johnson sie...@gmail.com wrote: That might make sense. Inside of case was dusty. I'll clean it out and give it another try tomorrow. On Jun 3, 2012 9:45 PM, Peter C.

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread John Thornton
You should have seen that redneck circus... that was funny trying to keep the power unit running anything near 1800 RPM with no frequency feedback. John On 6/4/2012 1:12 PM, Jon Elson wrote: ceen...@in-front.com wrote: Hi John, Too bad you can't connect your machine to a solid 3-ph line to

Re: [Emc-users] Got my 5i25... now trying to set it up.

2012-06-04 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Bryce Johnson wrote: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:14:15 -0500 From: Bryce Johnson sie...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Dave
On 6/4/2012 5:47 PM, dave wrote: There was a story about the former head of the lab I worked for. He came in one morning with a rip-roaring sore throat and asked one of the technicians what would help it; this was back when we had 190 proof or better around the lab for parathion analysis. The

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread dave
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:05:40 -0400 Ed Nisley ed.08.nis...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 11:53 -0600, Jeshua Lacock wrote: you are basing this on what? Rumor, supposition, hearsay, random tales, and watching the slow-motion destruction of mobile phone innovation through

Re: [Emc-users] Got my 5i25... now trying to set it up.

2012-06-04 Thread dave
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: On Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Bryce Johnson wrote: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 17:14:15 -0500 From: Bryce Johnson sie...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To:

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Jun 4, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Joachim Franek wrote: do you think it makes sense if we all collaboratively work towards a common goal? Yes. Excellent. It just seems that several people are going in several directions, and we might all benefit from a shared strategy. It is time to tell,

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Jun 4, 2012, at 5:41 PM, dave wrote: It has always been my understanding that you can make a patented device; you just can't sell it. I don't think this precludes using that patented device to make things which you sell. Good point. Also, as far as I know, Makerbot et al have not had

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 09:06:32 PM Dave did opine: On 6/4/2012 2:41 PM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, June 04, 2012 02:37:59 PM Dave did opine: You from eastern KY? On 6/4/2012 11:40 AM, dave wrote: Naturally, all of us keep a still with ground glass joints and a pound of sodium

Re: [Emc-users] gladevcp tabs

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Haberler
Brian, I suggest to use just a single gladevcp application, and use a notebook widget which gives you named tabs to select the desired panel. - Michael Am 04.06.2012 um 22:59 schrieb Brian May: I might be missing something obvious, but how do I add a second gladevcp tab in the axis window.

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, June 04, 2012 09:13:21 PM Ed Nisley did opine: On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 11:53 -0600, Jeshua Lacock wrote: you are basing this on what? Rumor, supposition, hearsay, random tales, and watching the slow-motion destruction of mobile phone innovation through internecine IP warfare. The

Re: [Emc-users] gladevcp tabs

2012-06-04 Thread Phill Carter
I am using 2.5.0 and I have a panel on the right hand side plus two tabs using the following: GLADEVCP= -u ./gladevcp/mdi.py ./gladevcp/mdi.ui EMBED_TAB_NAME = Probing EMBED_TAB_COMMAND = halcmd loadusr -Wn probe gladevcp -c probe -x {XID} -u ./gladevcp/probe.py -H ./gladevcp/probe.hal

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Ed Nisley
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 18:31 -0600, Jeshua Lacock wrote: Also, as far as I know, Makerbot et al have not had much of a legal battle so far. True, but now that they're doing something over $5 M/yr with substantial funding, they look more like a target. Again, I know nothing other than the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Kenneth Lerman
On 06/04/2012 08:31 PM, Jeshua Lacock wrote: On Jun 4, 2012, at 5:41 PM, dave wrote: It has always been my understanding that you can make a patented device; you just can't sell it. I don't think this precludes using that patented device to make things which you sell. IANAL and I don't play

Re: [Emc-users] Commutating Reactor

2012-06-04 Thread Jon Elson
ceen...@in-front.com wrote: Did John run it for an hour or longer to be able to repeat the only one hour run time situation? I forgot what the capacity of the borrowed generator was to compare it to a 15HP weak leg system. Even if the generator varied in speed and voltage when loaded, one

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread Jon Elson
dave wrote: It has always been my understanding that you can make a patented device; you just can't sell it. I don't think this precludes using that patented device to make things which you sell. This has been gone over a number of times on other lists, if you use it in commerce, the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: and Soapbox: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-06-04 Thread dave
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:05:06 -0500 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: dave wrote: It has always been my understanding that you can make a patented device; you just can't sell it. I don't think this precludes using that patented device to make things which you sell. This has

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder discs

2012-06-04 Thread Przemek Klosowski
Distilleries that make grain alcohol for consumption usually don't make anything that is 100%/200 proof. There's a physical limit on distillation of ethanol from water---you can only get 95.6% (191 proof). If you want better than that you have to add benzene and distill that, but then the