Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-10 Thread Ken Strauss
rceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm > > On Thursday 10 January 2019 17:31:03 Ken Strauss wrote: > > > Yes, a cute design. However, unless I missed it, he doesn't address > > determining the varying stickout of the cutter. After every to

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-10 Thread Gene Heskett
being to verify that the cat is well and truly dead. :-[ > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:24 PM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-10 Thread Ken Strauss
plus the height setter. > -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:24 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm > > On Thursday 10 January

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-10 Thread Gene Heskett
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 12:43 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm > > On Monday 07 January 2019 05:22:53 andy pugh wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 05:07, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users > > >

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-10 Thread Martin Dobbins
https://hackaday.com/2016/06/20/hackaday-prize-entry-diy-automatic-tool-changer/  Martin From: Gene Heskett Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 12:43 PM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm On Monday 07

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 07 January 2019 05:22:53 andy pugh wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 05:07, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users > > wrote: > > I've seen some that have each tool holder coded and read the holders > > in the chain or carousel as it moves. > > In fact the machine in the first post is just such a

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
How many sockets on that chain? Could it run the other direction? What about modifying to be able to number the chain sockets so the tool locations can be tracked? Could still have it so that if it finds an empty socket or wrong tool number in a socket it would do a full pass on the chain to

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-07 Thread Sam Sokolik
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ken Strauss wrote: > Wow! Support for 32000 tools! I would have thought that a 10-bit barcode > would be sufficient for most any machine. > > > Each tool has 15 rings that can be 'present' or not. So when I tool is > > called - the chain just runs around until it

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-07 Thread Sam Sokolik
he tools move around so the system has to keep track of where they >>> are. >>> Nice video. Thanks for posting that. >>> >>> >>> > -Original Message- >>> > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] >>> > Sent: Janu

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-07 Thread Sam Sokolik
ing that. >> >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] >> > Sent: January-07-19 9:00 AM >> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm >> > >

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-07 Thread Sam Sokolik
r posting that. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > > Sent: January-07-19 9:00 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm > > > > That is our mach

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-07 Thread John Dammeyer
But the tools move around so the system has to keep track of where they are. Nice video. Thanks for posting that. > -Original Message- > From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] > Sent: January-07-19 9:00 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-07 Thread Sam Sokolik
Jeeze... Let me re-word my previous email... That is our machine... We just call the next tool after the previous tool change.. (too easy?) So the tool is ready before the next op.. (as long as the operation isn't too short - then it has to wait a bit depending on tool location in the

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-07 Thread Sam Sokolik
That is our machine... The we just call the next tool after the previous tool change.. (too easy?) So the tool is ready before the next op.. (as long as the operation isn't too long..) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q6kvrSBSk=2s sam On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 10:49 AM Jon Elson wrote: > On

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/06/2019 11:29 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Excuse my ignorance. The G Code selects a tool by #. The operator has placed the tools into the numbered positions for the tool changer. Now here I guess it gets interesting. Most efficient would be if the G-Code Parser read ahead and signaled

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-07 Thread Stuart Stevenson
The Toyoda FA800 horizontal with a Fanuc 16i control at MPM has a tool changer that uses assigned pockets. Immediately after a tool change the programmer tells the control what the next tool will be using a T number. The carousel positions the next tool number to be picked up by the tool change

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-07 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 05:07, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: > > I've seen some that have each tool holder coded and read the holders in the > chain or carousel as it moves. In fact the machine in the first post is just such a machine. The tool holders all have a mechanical bar-code made of

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-06 Thread John Dammeyer
January-06-19 9:05 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Cc: Gregg Eshelman > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm > > I've seen some that have each tool holder coded and read the holders in the > chain or carousel as it moves. The system

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
I've seen some that have each tool holder coded and read the holders in the chain or carousel as it moves. The system has no idea where any of the tools are but it does know the difference between an empty spot and one with a tool. So when a tool is requested it just runs the carousel or chain

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/06/2019 10:54 AM, Kenneth Lerman wrote: To clarify the question: With this type of tool changer, one could speed up the tool change delay: 1. when loading a tool 1. unload the previous tool into one side of the arm 2. move the chain so that the new tool is ready to be

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-06 Thread Kenneth Lerman
To clarify the question: With this type of tool changer, one could speed up the tool change delay: 1. when loading a tool 1. unload the previous tool into one side of the arm 2. move the chain so that the new tool is ready to be loaded (if not already there) 3. grab the

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-05 Thread Stuart Stevenson
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nkw590aq1koyiif/toolchange.mp4?dl=0 or this? This is LinuxCNC on an Enshu running a tool change component I wrote. It checks the tool change status when starting and recovers from all but one positional error. The error is doesn't recover from is with the tool change

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-05 Thread Mark Johnsen
On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 6:33 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 08:43, nkp wrote: > > > > Are there any examples where the tool is prepared in advance? > > > like this > > > http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/toolchangerspindle.JPG > > You mean other than that one? >

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-05 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 08:43, nkp wrote: > > Are there any examples where the tool is prepared in advance? > like this > http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/toolchangerspindle.JPG You mean other than that one? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 January 2019 03:42:43 nkp wrote: > Are there any examples where the tool is prepared in advance? > > Machine : tool changer with swiveling arm. > > like this > http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/toolchangerspindl >e.JPG (image taken from the forum) > Neat.

[Emc-users] tool changer with swiveling arm

2019-01-05 Thread nkp
Are there any examples where the tool is prepared in advance? Machine : tool changer with swiveling arm. like this http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/toolchangerspindle.JPG (image taken from the forum) ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-11 Thread Dave Cole
be exchanged or > put away. > > > Rick > > Original Message ---- > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project > From: "John Dammeyer" <jo...@autoartisans.com> > Date: Tue, November 10, 2015 9:33 pm

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-11 Thread John Dammeyer
troller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project > > > Proportionally controlled hydraulic motor, with hard stops and limit > switches at each stopping point of its travels. It takes about 2.5 seconds to > make the 180 degree rotation. That

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 November 2015 at 17:10, John Dammeyer wrote: > In that case a switch signalling clear or midpoint would be the best option. > If you even wanted to do speed things up a tad. Outside of Brother demos on Youtube the tool-change time is normally a tiny proportion of

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-10 Thread Pete Matos
Very nice Rickcolor me jealous!! Pete On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Rick Lair wrote: > Here it is, after putting all the pieces together, and working the bugs > out, I finally got the tool change working using Andy Pugh's carousel > component to control the tool

[Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-10 Thread Rick Lair
Here it is, after putting all the pieces together, and working the bugs out, I finally got the tool change working using Andy Pugh's carousel component to control the tool carousel, and a pretty healthy chunk of ladder logic to control everything else. All using Linuxcnc 2.7. Thanks for the

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-10 Thread John Dammeyer
il.com] > Sent: November-10-15 10:00 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project > > > Very nice Rickcolor me jealous!! > > Pete > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Rick Lair <r.

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-10 Thread john mcintyre
Good Day Top job really looks the part. Has the same shift pattern as my Matsuura MV 100V. Cheers john > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 13:00:03 -0500 > From: petefro...@gmail.com > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-10 Thread Pete Matos
10:00 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project > > > > > > Very nice Rickcolor me jealous!! > > > > Pete > > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Ric

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-10 Thread rick
When I was writing the ladder logic I followed the original sequence of events, but this does make sense, guess I've got some tweaking to do. Thanks Rick Original Message Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project From: "Pete Matos"

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-10 Thread Dave Cole
n I was writing the ladder logic I followed the original sequence of > events, but this does make sense, guess I've got some tweaking to do. > > Thanks > > Rick > > Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project &g

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-10 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
was writing the ladder logic I followed the original sequence of > events, but this does make sense, guess I've got some tweaking to do. > > > > Thanks > > > > Rick > > > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finall

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-10 Thread John Dammeyer
as it does now. John > -Original Message- > From: Dave Cole [mailto:linuxcncro...@gmail.com] > Sent: November-10-15 1:55 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project > > > If you rotate it with

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project

2015-11-10 Thread rick
to be exchanged or put away. Rick Original Message Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer finally working on our mill project From: "John Dammeyer" <jo...@autoartisans.com> Date: Tue, November 10, 2015 9:33 pm To: "'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'" <em

[Emc-users] Tool changer

2014-04-03 Thread Rod Fitzsimmons Frey
Thanks for all the help everyone gave me getting my rack toolchanger going. It's working well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mwmas6hFRQ -- ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2014-04-03 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
What spindle is that? On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Rod Fitzsimmons Frey rodf...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for all the help everyone gave me getting my rack toolchanger going. It's working well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mwmas6hFRQ

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2014-04-03 Thread Rod Fitzsimmons Frey
It's a no-name Chinese spindle I got from alibaba.com. 24000 RPM, 1.5kW, ISO20 toolholders, water cooled. On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Stephen Dubovsky smdubov...@gmail.comwrote: What spindle is that? On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Rod Fitzsimmons Frey rodf...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer question

2011-11-23 Thread Sam sokolik
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:18:09 -0800 From: dengv...@charter.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool changer question On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:06:54 +0330 Farzin Kamangar farzin.kaman...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, dear EMC users; Considering the tool

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer question

2011-11-23 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, November 23, 2011 02:45:44 PM Sam sokolik did opine: You were going to write something, Sam? Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:18:09 -0800 From: dengv...@charter.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] tool changer question On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:06:54

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer question

2011-11-20 Thread dave
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:06:54 +0330 Farzin Kamangar farzin.kaman...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, dear EMC users; Considering the tool changing process, is there a way to send some movement commands from PLC to CNC? I have entered the TOOL_CHANGE_POSITION and TOOL_CHANGE_QUILL_UP in the INI

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer question

2011-11-20 Thread Jon Elson
dave wrote: Some years ago a group of emcer's converted a Mazak V5 to emc. Lots of information is available in the wiki, logs, logic, etc but I cannot find an entry on the classicladder code (for tool change), etc. Maybe someone else can help here. Every EMC2 install should have the CL

[Emc-users] tool changer question

2011-11-14 Thread Farzin Kamangar
Hello, dear EMC users; Considering the tool changing process, is there a way to send some movement commands from PLC to CNC? I have entered the TOOL_CHANGE_POSITION and TOOL_CHANGE_QUILL_UP in the INI file and in the EMCIO section. This is fine and causes the tool go to the tool change

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer question

2011-11-14 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, November 14, 2011 08:06:29 AM Farzin Kamangar did opine: Hello, dear EMC users; Considering the tool changing process, is there a way to send some movement commands from PLC to CNC? I have entered the TOOL_CHANGE_POSITION and TOOL_CHANGE_QUILL_UP in the INI file and in the

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer question

2011-11-14 Thread Michael Haberler
Farzin, an alternate route would be to use an M6 remapped to a o-word procedure, which is now in master. For an example, see

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer question

2011-11-14 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 16:06 +0330, Farzin Kamangar wrote: ... snip I was wondering how these actions could be done without using subroutine calls in the Gcode? Please let me know if I am not clear enough. ... snip I use HAL comps for my changers. My lathe has a simple one:

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer question

2011-11-14 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2011/11/14 Farzin Kamangar farzin.kaman...@gmail.com: Hello, dear EMC users;      Considering the tool changing process, is there a way to send some movement commands from PLC to CNC? How about using PLC part of EMC2 - ClassicLadder? It seems to me that this would perfectly fit Your intended

Re: [Emc-users] tool changer question

2011-11-14 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 16:06 +0330, Farzin Kamangar wrote: Hello, dear EMC users; Considering the tool changing process, is there a way to send some movement commands from PLC to CNC? I'm not familiar with PLC's but they should at the very least have pins that can set or clear bits. You

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-05 Thread Peter blodow
Hello Gentlemen, during the past 20 years our family used to have (an still is using) a lot of Nissan (formerly Datsun) cars, especially Bluebird and Primeras, which name ever these cars may have had in America. They had a very simple mechanism to dip the headlights with a step switch on the

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-05 Thread robert
Peter blodow wrote: As far as I could see there was no position feedback. Still this mechanism never failed or went to a wrong position. If someone knew how this works, wouldn't it be an alternative for a tool carousel? Best regards Peter Blodow yes, in the past 10 or so years we

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-04 Thread Alex Joni
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 18:28 +0100, robert wrote: i just asked on IRC about the var file, cradek said you cant realy do it and looking through the docs i cant see any ref to setting a parameter in atxt file from hal, unless one makes there own hal comp file I guess I never worried about

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-04 Thread Terry
Robert, Chris Morley has a base tool change Classic Ladder program that sounds like what is being talked about here It requires homing of the carosel on power up though. Has a counter that keeps track of carosel position (CW CCW), one position has a home switch. Later Terry On Mon May 4 1:47

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-03 Thread Alex Joni
i am just implementing the tool changer and i would like to know when setting the current tool with M61 Q02 this should set current tool in spindle to T02 will this also set the iocontrol.0.tool-number = 2 as when issuing the above the tool-number value did not change from 0 to 2 as

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-03 Thread robert
M61 Qxx is there to allow you specify the currently loaded tool. If you shutdown emc2, and restart it will not remember the tool number it last had loaded, so one can use the M61 to specify the current number. This only works in MDI though, I don't think it's usefull to specify it from a

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-03 Thread Ray Henry
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 09:56 +0100, robert wrote: this is a shame if emc does not store current tool into a paramiter looks like i need to keep a perm record in plc some how then. You could use a parameter in the var file to keep track of current tool number. This ability has been a part of

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-03 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 07:04 -0500, Ray Henry wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 09:56 +0100, robert wrote: this is a shame if emc does not store current tool into a paramiter looks like i need to keep a perm record in plc some how then. You could use a parameter in the var file to keep track of

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-03 Thread robert
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 07:04 -0500, Ray Henry wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 09:56 +0100, robert wrote: this is a shame if emc does not store current tool into a paramiter looks like i need to keep a perm record in plc some how then. You could use a

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-03 Thread Ray Henry
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 18:28 +0100, robert wrote: i just asked on IRC about the var file, cradek said you cant realy do it and looking through the docs i cant see any ref to setting a parameter in atxt file from hal, unless one makes there own hal comp file I guess I never worried about

[Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-02 Thread robert
hi i am just implementing the tool changer and i would like to know when setting the current tool with M61 Q02 this should set current tool in spindle to T02 will this also set the iocontrol.0.tool-number = 2 as when issuing the above the tool-number value did not change from 0 to 2 as

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 21:19 +0100, robert wrote: hi i am just implementing the tool changer and i would like to know when setting the current tool with M61 Q02 this should set current tool in spindle to T02 will this also set the iocontrol.0.tool-number = 2 as when issuing the above the

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-02 Thread robert
My guess is that you need to make sure that your PLC sets tool-prepared true when the tool is ready to be changed. The T word invokes the prepare - prepared thread, the M invokes the change - changed thread. You should be able to check the prepare and prepared signal status with HALmeter.

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-02 Thread Chris Morley
i am just implementing the tool changer and i would like to know when setting the current tool with M61 Q02 this should set current tool in spindle to T02 will this also set the iocontrol.0.tool-number = 2 as when issuing the above the tool-number value did not change from 0 to 2 as

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 23:06 +0100, robert wrote: My guess is that you need to make sure that your PLC sets tool-prepared true when the tool is ready to be changed. The T word invokes the prepare - prepared thread, the M invokes the change - changed thread. You should be able to check the

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 22:49 +, Chris Morley wrote: i am just implementing the tool changer and i would like to know when setting the current tool with M61 Q02 this should set current tool in spindle to T02 will this also set the iocontrol.0.tool-number = 2 as when issuing the

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-02 Thread robert
In that case, don't use prepare-prepared. Just link the two signals so that as soon as the prepare is set true, prepared becomes true. Most example configurations have this because they don't usually have changers. This will put all of the control burden on the M6. Do you have a tool

Re: [Emc-users] Tool changer

2009-05-02 Thread robert
Chris Morley wrote: i am just implementing the tool changer and i would like to know when setting the current tool with M61 Q02 this should set current tool in spindle to T02 will this also set the iocontrol.0.tool-number = 2 as when issuing the above the tool-number value did not