Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-25 Thread Florian Rist
Hi, thanks for all your comments so fare. 0. move to home position (0°) 1. wait for low frequency trigger, a hardware or a software signal 2. within say 10° accelerate and synchronises to the 50Hz trigger so that the 10° position is reached 20ms after the last trigger and at a

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 April 2014 11:08:55 Florian Rist did opine: Hi, thanks for all your comments so fare. 0. move to home position (0آ°) 1. wait for low frequency trigger, a hardware or a software signal 2. within say 10آ° accelerate and synchronises to the 50Hz trigger so that

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-25 Thread Florian Rist
Hi [Beaglebone black + BLDC contorller] Alternatively the Pico PWM brushless servo amp only needs a single channel of PWM: http://www.pico-systems.com/acservo.html A Gecodrive G320X [1] would be even easier to run from a Beaglebone as it does not require a PWM/Dir but a Step/Dir signal.

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-24 Thread andy pugh
On 24 April 2014 02:17, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: But, yes, a Mesa controller has a full sign/magnitude output available. I wasn't sure Florian was going to use a traditional controller and Hal for this. I think there is some confusion here still. The 7i39 needs three channels

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-23 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Jon http://www.pico-systems.com/acservo.html Ah, I see that would make thinks much easier. You COULD, in theory, run it with just the Direction signal in synchronous antiphase mode, but this may cause the filter inductors (and maybe the motor, too) to run hot. Our servo amp was

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-23 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014, Florian Rist wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:24:42 +0200 From: Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger?

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/23/2014 09:07 AM, Florian Rist wrote: Hi Jon http://www.pico-systems.com/acservo.html Ah, I see that would make thinks much easier. You COULD, in theory, run it with just the Direction signal in synchronous antiphase mode, but this may cause the filter inductors (and maybe the motor,

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-23 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Jon Andy Pugh suggested you could run my PWM servo amps with just ONE wire/output pin. That is what I was referring to, and that two wires would be better. Ah, OK. Got it. Thank for the clarification. With sign/magnitude control, there is no output until the PWM signal has pulses on

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 April 2014 16:57, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Andy Pugh suggested you could run my PWM servo amps with just ONE wire/output pin What I was meaning was that it only needed one PWM channel, rather than the phase-locked 3-phase PWM that the 7i39 needs. I wasn't suggesting that it

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-23 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy Andy Pugh suggested you could run my PWM servo amps with just ONE wire/output pin What I was meaning was that it only needed one PWM channel, rather than the phase-locked 3-phase PWM that the 7i39 needs. I wasn't suggesting that it didn't also need direction, enable etc pins.

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/23/2014 12:06 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 23 April 2014 16:57, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Andy Pugh suggested you could run my PWM servo amps with just ONE wire/output pin What I was meaning was that it only needed one PWM channel, rather than the phase-locked 3-phase PWM that

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 April 2014 17:24, Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de wrote: So, first question: Can I hook up the 7I39 to a BeagleBone Black. Well of course I can, but is this somehow supported already, so that it is simple to do? Any other driver suggestions? The problem here is that the 7i39 expects a

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-22 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy, thanks for you comments. Alternatively the Pico PWM brushless servo amp only needs a single channel of PWM: http://www.pico-systems.com/acservo.html Ah, I see that would make thinks much easier. And I'm not forced to use the Beaglbone I could was well you a micro/nanoATX board and a

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-22 Thread Dave Caroline
I think this could be done as a geared solution, if you could work from a phase locked (to 50hz) clock at some higher rate, and use that as the encoder signal, and the 50hz as a trigger to g76 with suitable parameters it would then be synchronised and have a flyback (gate the laser off then), or

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 April 2014 18:20, Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de wrote: Is there something like a PLL component in LinuxCNC Not as far as I know. Or perhaps the better answer is not yet. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-22 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Dave I think this could be done as a geared solution, Of couse, I forgot to mention, there will be a reduction gear about 1:50 or 1:100, the motor is not very strong and the scanner ways about 5 kg and will be mounted eccentrically, so it will create quite some torque and inertial mass. if

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-22 Thread andy pugh
On 22 April 2014 18:38, Florian Rist fr...@fs.tum.de wrote: By the way, can the starting angular position of the thread be specified in LinuxCNC? Not directly. For multi-start threads you offset the starting position. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-22 Thread Florian Rist
Hi Andy Not directly. For multi-start threads you offset the starting position. So two G33.1 calls at the same position and with the same parameters or a Z offset of an integer  multiple of the pitch will cut the same thread. In a way the thread starts always at 0°. See you Flo

Re: [Emc-users] Motion Synchronization to ext. trigger? (BeagleBone Back + Mesa 7I39, Machinekit?)

2014-04-22 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/22/2014 12:20 PM, Florian Rist wrote: Hi Andy, thanks for you comments. Alternatively the Pico PWM brushless servo amp only needs a single channel of PWM: http://www.pico-systems.com/acservo.html Ah, I see that would make thinks much easier. You COULD, in theory, run it with just the