Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andy pugh]

On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 00:06, andrew beck  wrote:

> i have been just having a play for the last 10 mins.  does your generators
> make actual G code that the backplot can see and that I can run as a
> program?  and start with cycle start

No, it just makes the programmed feature when you press "start".

It uses a set of G-code subroutines that take the various dimensions
as  input and then run a fixed cycle.

You can't assemble them into a program, though often you can leave the
turn, face, radius, thread set up and run them in sequence.

It's really a setup for one-offs, typically working from a 2D drawing.

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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andrew beck]

ok gmccapy works with your setup.

i have been just having a play for the last 10 mins.  does your generators
make actual G code that the backplot can see and that I can run as a
program?  and start with cycle start

currently its like there is no program just almost jogging going on behind
the scenes

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:56 AM Andy Pugh  wrote:

>
>
> > On 3 Jun 2021, at 23:44, andrew beck  wrote:
> >
> > might be another issue
>
> Start LinuxCNC from the command line and see if there are any error
> messages.
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Andy Pugh]

> On 3 Jun 2021, at 23:44, andrew beck  wrote:
> 
> might be another issue

Start LinuxCNC from the command line and see if there are any error messages. 



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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andrew beck]

ok had a few dumb moments

then thought to click on the link and try just download it which worked
good with the package installer.

but it just says that the same version is already installed.

might be another issue

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:30 AM andy pugh  wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 at 23:12, andrew beck  wrote:
>
> > tried adding repositories but getting stuck
>
> It's in the LinuxCNC Buster archive:
> http://www.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/base/binary-amd64/
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andy pugh]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2021 at 23:12, andrew beck  wrote:

> tried adding repositories but getting stuck

It's in the LinuxCNC Buster archive:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/base/binary-amd64/

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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andrew beck]

just trying this and getting stuck.  using linuxmint 19.3


sudo apt-get install python-rsvg.
[sudo] password for cnc:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package python-rsvg.
E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'python-rsvg.'
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'python-rsvg.'

tried adding repositories but getting stuck

anyone a good linux guru:)


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 12:28 AM Mark Wendt  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 8:06 AM Andy Pugh  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > On 3 Jun 2021, at 12:50, andrew beck  wrote:
> > >
> > > Like apt-get python-rsvg?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
>
> That should be apt-get install python-rsvg.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Mark Wendt]

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 8:06 AM Andy Pugh  wrote:

>
>
> > On 3 Jun 2021, at 12:50, andrew beck  wrote:
> >
> > Like apt-get python-rsvg?
>
> Yes.
>

That should be apt-get install python-rsvg.

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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Andy Pugh]

> On 3 Jun 2021, at 12:50, andrew beck  wrote:
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> Like apt-get python-rsvg?

Yes. 


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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andrew beck]

Like apt-get python-rsvg?

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 6:53 PM Andy Pugh  wrote:

>
>
> > On 2 Jun 2021, at 22:26, andrew beck  wrote:
> >
> > Hmm I'm getting buttons but non of your fancy images.
>
> You might need to install python-rsvg
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Andy Pugh]

> On 2 Jun 2021, at 22:26, andrew beck  wrote:
> 
> Hmm I'm getting buttons but non of your fancy images.

You might need to install python-rsvg



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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andrew beck]

Hmm I'm getting buttons but non of your fancy images.

Must be missing something

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 9:20 AM andrew beck  wrote:

> OK firing up lathe as we speak about to test
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 9:12 AM Andy Pugh  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > On 2 Jun 2021, at 22:04, andrew beck  wrote:
>> >
>> > Can I just open the sample install and test it?
>>
>> I think so. It’s been a few years since I wrote it.
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andrew beck]

OK firing up lathe as we speak about to test

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 9:12 AM Andy Pugh  wrote:

>
>
> > On 2 Jun 2021, at 22:04, andrew beck  wrote:
> >
> > Can I just open the sample install and test it?
>
> I think so. It’s been a few years since I wrote it.
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Andy Pugh]

> On 2 Jun 2021, at 22:04, andrew beck  wrote:
> 
> Can I just open the sample install and test it?

I think so. It’s been a few years since I wrote it. 

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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andrew beck]

Andy that's awesome!

Can I just open the sample install and test it?

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021, 5:38 AM andy pugh  wrote:

> On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 05:50, andrew beck  wrote:
> >
> > Never used the Mach ones.  But anything like the path pilot stuff.
> >
> > Eg profile cycles
> > Parting
> > Facing
> > Threading
> > Taper threading
> > Tapping
> > Grooving
> > Straight Turning
>
> Have you seen:
> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/41-guis/26550-lathe-macros?start=150#82743
>
> Shown in action making a part here:
> https://youtu.be/nIYMfyf4jDI
>
> I use them for more than 90% of the stuff I make. I have to be making
> dozens of somethin, or have unusually complex curves, to bother with
> actual G-code programs.
>
> The zip file in the forum post should be all ready to go in Touchy.
> They are also available in a Gmoccapy sample config in the standard
> install.
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Feral Engineer]

You sound like my grandfather. He's 88 and still going strong. Be careful
out there, we like having you on this side of things.

Phil T.
The Feral Engineer

Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at
www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 3:00 PM Gene Heskett  wrote:

> On Wednesday 02 June 2021 12:26:33 Gerrit Visser wrote:
>
> > Hi Gene
> > From discussions with users of my now-archived Gui, they were using it
> > for anything from laser 'etching' wood with a lot of tiny moves to a
> > Bridgeport and 2" facemills.
> > Grbl is quite capable, people get hung up on the lack of some G codes
> > and tool changes but for the most part in small shops and hobbyists it
> > makes little difference. Even for thread milling and drilling there
> > are other options to generate gcode. Fusion360 has a post for Grbl so
> > it is possible to stay within its limits.
> >
> > Grbl is certainly much easier to install than IinuxCNC so if it does
> > enough then that is a plus in my opinion. Grbl gets few updates
> > because in the main it is supported by 1 person who is busy with life.
> >
> That may be, and thaks for the clarification, but at my age, and the
> amount of giddyup left, i don't think I'll try to learn a new system. I
> am currently running LCNC from the buildbot (master IOW) on 3 wintel
> boxes, and building LCNC on an rpi4, for the rpi4, running an 11x54
> Sheldon lathe about 70 yo.
>
> I'm now 86, and alone having lost my Mrs to COPD last Pearl Harbor Day,
> and was using what little giddyup I have left to start installing a new
> vinyl fence around my place, and fighting with a pin oaks roots plus an
> old fence post, I was trying to pry out a piece of an old post that must
> haven been treated really well. Using an 8 foot 1" steel bar I'd
> sharpened one end of that runs around 25-30 lbs, it broke loose from the
> 33 yo old post's remains, and the 3" tamping pad on the other end of it
> came back and smashed dead center into the pacemaker I had put in early
> in 2019.  Thinking I'd better check it, I came into range of the monitor
> but the monitor wasn't getting it.  So I went out to the Dr's office,
> and his machine said it was working fine, and I should come home and do
> a reboot of the monitor, which restored that. So I guess I'm as ok as a
> guy with a 30% ticker with replacement parts can be. The best
> explanation for my longevity is that he's not ready for me. :) I had a
> pulmonary embolism at 79, which has a 2% survival rate, but I got by
> then with a slight loss of IQ since I started out at 147 70 some years
> ago, so I'm still here.
>
> > Gerrit
>
> Take care, and stay well Garrit.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Gene Heskett 
> > Sent: June 2, 2021 7:41 AM
> > And that is much more informative, Gerrit, thank you.
> >
> > For grbl based systems. But LCNC has progressed beyond grbl, or that
> > is my understanding.  I haven't actually seen a comparison of what
> > each can do. Does such exist? I suspect not, as it would be quickly
> > rendered out of date by the next github commit.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 02 June 2021 12:26:33 Gerrit Visser wrote:

> Hi Gene
> From discussions with users of my now-archived Gui, they were using it
> for anything from laser 'etching' wood with a lot of tiny moves to a
> Bridgeport and 2" facemills.
> Grbl is quite capable, people get hung up on the lack of some G codes
> and tool changes but for the most part in small shops and hobbyists it
> makes little difference. Even for thread milling and drilling there
> are other options to generate gcode. Fusion360 has a post for Grbl so
> it is possible to stay within its limits.
>
> Grbl is certainly much easier to install than IinuxCNC so if it does
> enough then that is a plus in my opinion. Grbl gets few updates
> because in the main it is supported by 1 person who is busy with life.
>
That may be, and thaks for the clarification, but at my age, and the 
amount of giddyup left, i don't think I'll try to learn a new system. I 
am currently running LCNC from the buildbot (master IOW) on 3 wintel 
boxes, and building LCNC on an rpi4, for the rpi4, running an 11x54 
Sheldon lathe about 70 yo.

I'm now 86, and alone having lost my Mrs to COPD last Pearl Harbor Day, 
and was using what little giddyup I have left to start installing a new 
vinyl fence around my place, and fighting with a pin oaks roots plus an 
old fence post, I was trying to pry out a piece of an old post that must 
haven been treated really well. Using an 8 foot 1" steel bar I'd 
sharpened one end of that runs around 25-30 lbs, it broke loose from the 
33 yo old post's remains, and the 3" tamping pad on the other end of it 
came back and smashed dead center into the pacemaker I had put in early 
in 2019.  Thinking I'd better check it, I came into range of the monitor 
but the monitor wasn't getting it.  So I went out to the Dr's office, 
and his machine said it was working fine, and I should come home and do 
a reboot of the monitor, which restored that. So I guess I'm as ok as a 
guy with a 30% ticker with replacement parts can be. The best 
explanation for my longevity is that he's not ready for me. :) I had a 
pulmonary embolism at 79, which has a 2% survival rate, but I got by 
then with a slight loss of IQ since I started out at 147 70 some years 
ago, so I'm still here.

> Gerrit

Take care, and stay well Garrit.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gene Heskett 
> Sent: June 2, 2021 7:41 AM
> And that is much more informative, Gerrit, thank you.
>
> For grbl based systems. But LCNC has progressed beyond grbl, or that
> is my understanding.  I haven't actually seen a comparison of what
> each can do. Does such exist? I suspect not, as it would be quickly
> rendered out of date by the next github commit.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Chris Albertson]

grbl is best compared to the "Marlin" software that drives most 3D
printers. Both are very different from LCNC.   Marlin and grbl are really
similar in many ways.
1) Marlin and grbl both run on Arduino, even the low-end "Uno".
2) They are VERY efficient because the configuration is done in the dot.h
file and then the system is recompiled.
3) grbl only drives 3-axis machines that use stepper motors
4) like Marlin, but unlike LCNC, software stepping is very accurate and
fast.  Because both grbl and Marlin run on bare metal with no OS.
5) grbl has only the most primitive user interface -- code letters you type
into a serial terminal, no screen of any kind.  However this s a feature,
any GUI would have to be done on a PC in a completely separate program.

The main limitation is (1) stepper motors only and (2) three-axis only.
 One huge advantage over LCNC is there is zero learning curve and nothing
to configure because there are no config files.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 9:48 AM Gerrit Visser  wrote:

> Hi Gene
> From discussions with users of my now-archived Gui, they were using it for
> anything from laser 'etching' wood with a lot of tiny moves to a Bridgeport
> and 2" facemills.
> Grbl is quite capable, people get hung up on the lack of some G codes and
> tool changes but for the most part in small shops and hobbyists it makes
> little difference. Even for thread milling and drilling there are other
> options to generate gcode. Fusion360 has a post for Grbl so it is possible
> to stay within its limits.
>
> Grbl is certainly much easier to install than IinuxCNC so if it does enough
> then that is a plus in my opinion. Grbl gets few updates because in the
> main
> it is supported by 1 person who is busy with life.
>
> Gerrit
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gene Heskett 
> Sent: June 2, 2021 7:41 AM
> And that is much more informative, Gerrit, thank you.
>
> For grbl based systems. But LCNC has progressed beyond grbl, or that is my
> understanding.  I haven't actually seen a comparison of what each can do.
> Does such exist? I suspect not, as it would be quickly rendered out of date
> by the next github commit.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andy pugh]

On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 05:50, andrew beck  wrote:
>
> Never used the Mach ones.  But anything like the path pilot stuff.
>
> Eg profile cycles
> Parting
> Facing
> Threading
> Taper threading
> Tapping
> Grooving
> Straight Turning

Have you seen:
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/41-guis/26550-lathe-macros?start=150#82743

Shown in action making a part here:
https://youtu.be/nIYMfyf4jDI

I use them for more than 90% of the stuff I make. I have to be making
dozens of somethin, or have unusually complex curves, to bother with
actual G-code programs.

The zip file in the forum post should be all ready to go in Touchy.
They are also available in a Gmoccapy sample config in the standard
install.

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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Gerrit Visser]

Hi Gene
>From discussions with users of my now-archived Gui, they were using it for
anything from laser 'etching' wood with a lot of tiny moves to a Bridgeport
and 2" facemills.
Grbl is quite capable, people get hung up on the lack of some G codes and
tool changes but for the most part in small shops and hobbyists it makes
little difference. Even for thread milling and drilling there are other
options to generate gcode. Fusion360 has a post for Grbl so it is possible
to stay within its limits.

Grbl is certainly much easier to install than IinuxCNC so if it does enough
then that is a plus in my opinion. Grbl gets few updates because in the main
it is supported by 1 person who is busy with life. 

Gerrit

-Original Message-
From: Gene Heskett  
Sent: June 2, 2021 7:41 AM
And that is much more informative, Gerrit, thank you. 

For grbl based systems. But LCNC has progressed beyond grbl, or that is my
understanding.  I haven't actually seen a comparison of what each can do.
Does such exist? I suspect not, as it would be quickly rendered out of date
by the next github commit.

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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Ed W]

Hi, I've got this one. Really pleased with it. Using it with Probe_Basic

    HANNspree HT225HPB 1080p Full HD 21.5
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01F3636V0

Ed W

On 02/06/2021 00:07, John Dammeyer wrote:
> If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any 
> particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
>  
> And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more usable 
> screen?
>  
> Thanks
> John
>  
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 02 June 2021 06:55:42 Gerrit Visser wrote:

> That is totally on the person who put it on Github, there are plenty
> of ways to illustrate and describe what a project is. That is what the
> Wiki section is for. I find the terse method rather prevalent amongst
> FOSS projects. Just like the 'who needs a manual, just read the code'
> approach.
>
> This wiki e.g. shows (IMHO) at a glance what you are looking at:
> https://github.com/gerritv/Grbl-Panel/wiki
>
> Gerrit

And that is much more informative, Gerrit, thank you. 

For grbl based systems. But LCNC has progressed beyond grbl, or that is 
my understanding.  I haven't actually seen a comparison of what each can 
do. Does such exist? I suspect not, as it would be quickly rendered out 
of date by the next github commit.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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[Gerrit Visser]

That is totally on the person who put it on Github, there are plenty of ways
to illustrate and describe what a project is. That is what the Wiki section
is for. I find the terse method rather prevalent amongst FOSS projects. Just
like the 'who needs a manual, just read the code' approach.

This wiki e.g. shows (IMHO) at a glance what you are looking at:
https://github.com/gerritv/Grbl-Panel/wiki

Gerrit

-Original Message-
From: Gene Heskett  
Sent: June 2, 2021 1:58 AM

And this nicely demo's github's total lack of a way to see what this project
does 



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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Robert Murphy]

Sorry been busy today and just saw this.

I bought a 2nd hand touch screen (3M Microtouch). A part from being
cheap, $25 AUD I figured it would be a fairly rugged piece of kit (very
little use). So it's only 17" but with the lack of space in my work area
it fits right in. Touch a little bit of fiddling to calibrate but I
found a great python3 base utility that worked wonders.

On 2/6/21 5:14 pm, John Dammeyer wrote:

Hi Gregg,

My observation is that in the last decade or so human factors engineering has 
taken a back seat to getting a product out the door.  Possibly with the idea 
that it will be out of date in a couple of years so why bother.

Way back when I was in University it was the Arts Department at the University 
of Alberta that introduced a Industrial Design stream for students to take 
which was exactly about that.  How big should buttons be?  What sort of 
positions should they be in and where.  I was friends with a guy that was doing 
that while I was taking what is now called Computer Engineering but then was 
Computing Science with a few EE courses.  Never forgot the comments he made 
about design.

Lately it appears to take a back seat.

In essence perhaps that's what my question about touch screens is all about.

John



-Original Message-
From: Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users [mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: June-01-21 11:55 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Cc: Gregg Eshelman
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

I always liked the rotary click wheel on many CRT monitors. Nice big wheel with 
an offset dimple. Put fingertip in dimple and push to
get the menu, spin to highlight the configuration option then push. Spin again 
to select (for example) vertical position then push and
spin to move the raster up or down. No slower (for me it was faster) than a mouse 
interface with "spin" controls that scroll a list or
change a number. Only took me a few seconds to have a CRT's image all tweaked. 
That's why people lamented the loss of the
clickwheel on iPods. It was FAST, easy to use, and didn't need eyes on it to be 
able to use it.

My current LCD has five buttons on the back. Only the bottom one (on/off) has a 
tiny bump. The other four are ??? and after the
menu is brought up, their positions don't align with the order of the menu 
selections so one is literally poking around blindly trying to
find what does what. Even a row of clearly labeled buttons on the front of a 
monitor was slower than a click wheel. If TV and monitor
designers want a "blind poking" physical interface tucked around on the back 
side, they should bring back the click wheel. I have a
couple of Samsung TVs that have, of all things, a tiny joystick *and* some 
buttons on the back. Now that is a crazy thing.

 On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 7:38:13 PM MDT, John Dammeyer 
 wrote:
  Personally I like the tactile feedback of a button that moves.� But moving 
from buttons over to a mouse to then select entries is
tedious so I can see either a number of buttons or a touch screen for that sort 
of thing.

For the same reason I really detest those interfaces based on Arduino's that, 
due to limited I/O use a rotary knob and button to select
from all sorts of menus.� Or worse test enter each digit one at a time using 
the rotary knob.
Shudder

Way back HP had the right idea with what they called soft keys.� A row of 
mechanical buttons along the edges of the screen to select
options displayed beside the button.� My Tek scope has those and the stupid 
rotary knobs.� Invariably since they have two of those I
tend to choose the wrong one first.

But to design such a user screen for LinuxCNC implies you also have to provide 
the buttons (and maybe a knob).� Easy to do with
CANopen or ModBus or if you have one of the high i/o count MESA boards but then 
you are also running a bundle of wires up rather
than a network cable.

Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[John Dammeyer]

Hi Gregg,

My observation is that in the last decade or so human factors engineering has 
taken a back seat to getting a product out the door.  Possibly with the idea 
that it will be out of date in a couple of years so why bother.

Way back when I was in University it was the Arts Department at the University 
of Alberta that introduced a Industrial Design stream for students to take 
which was exactly about that.  How big should buttons be?  What sort of 
positions should they be in and where.  I was friends with a guy that was doing 
that while I was taking what is now called Computer Engineering but then was 
Computing Science with a few EE courses.  Never forgot the comments he made 
about design. 

Lately it appears to take a back seat.

In essence perhaps that's what my question about touch screens is all about.

John


> -Original Message-
> From: Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users [mailto:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net]
> Sent: June-01-21 11:55 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Cc: Gregg Eshelman
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> I always liked the rotary click wheel on many CRT monitors. Nice big wheel 
> with an offset dimple. Put fingertip in dimple and push to
> get the menu, spin to highlight the configuration option then push. Spin 
> again to select (for example) vertical position then push and
> spin to move the raster up or down. No slower (for me it was faster) than a 
> mouse interface with "spin" controls that scroll a list or
> change a number. Only took me a few seconds to have a CRT's image all 
> tweaked. That's why people lamented the loss of the
> clickwheel on iPods. It was FAST, easy to use, and didn't need eyes on it to 
> be able to use it.
> 
> My current LCD has five buttons on the back. Only the bottom one (on/off) has 
> a tiny bump. The other four are ??? and after the
> menu is brought up, their positions don't align with the order of the menu 
> selections so one is literally poking around blindly trying to
> find what does what. Even a row of clearly labeled buttons on the front of a 
> monitor was slower than a click wheel. If TV and monitor
> designers want a "blind poking" physical interface tucked around on the back 
> side, they should bring back the click wheel. I have a
> couple of Samsung TVs that have, of all things, a tiny joystick *and* some 
> buttons on the back. Now that is a crazy thing.
> 
> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 7:38:13 PM MDT, John Dammeyer 
>  wrote:
>  Personally I like the tactile feedback of a button that moves.� But moving 
> from buttons over to a mouse to then select entries is
> tedious so I can see either a number of buttons or a touch screen for that 
> sort of thing.
> 
> For the same reason I really detest those interfaces based on Arduino's that, 
> due to limited I/O use a rotary knob and button to select
> from all sorts of menus.� Or worse test enter each digit one at a time using 
> the rotary knob.
> Shudder
> 
> Way back HP had the right idea with what they called soft keys.� A row of 
> mechanical buttons along the edges of the screen to select
> options displayed beside the button.� My Tek scope has those and the stupid 
> rotary knobs.� Invariably since they have two of those I
> tend to choose the wrong one first.
> 
> But to design such a user screen for LinuxCNC implies you also have to 
> provide the buttons (and maybe a knob).� Easy to do with
> CANopen or ModBus or if you have one of the high i/o count MESA boards but 
> then you are also running a bundle of wires up rather
> than a network cable.
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.
> John Dammeyer
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Frank Tkalcevic]

That's what I've based my wizards on.  I started using that version, but had
trouble laying out the screen using python and the toolkit it used.  I ended
up writing a c++ version with preview, but that never got pass a beta
version.

My old lathe wizards are here...

https://github.com/ftkalcevic/LinuxCNC/tree/gwiz2/contrib/gwiz2/wizards/lath
e_wizards/lathe/3_turning

They are basically a...
* desc - description file
* config - list of parameters for the wizard
* *.ngc - gcode implementation of the wizard
* screen.png - image to display with the wizard.

There are other wizard projects that I've seen on the forum.

-Original Message-
From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 3:17 PM
To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

These are from 2011 or so.
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/wizards
 
Is anyone using them?

> -Original Message-
> From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com]
> Sent: June-01-21 9:47 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> Never used the Mach ones.  But anything like the path pilot stuff.
> 
> Eg profile cycles
> Parting
> Facing
> Threading
> Taper threading
> Tapping
> Grooving
> Straight Turning
> Etc.
> 
> Only ones I really want are the first 4
> 
> Just for easy fast jobs without cam
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 4:37 PM John Dammeyer  wrote:
> 
> > Specifically what sort of wizards.  Like the MACH ones?
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: June-01-21 9:24 PM
> > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > >
> > > Need to get this conversational stuff going on my machines.
> > >
> > > It would be good to get something set up that is part of the install
iso
> > > for axis maybe for the wizards
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 4:18 PM John Dammeyer 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nicely done!
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > > > > Sent: June-01-21 9:10 PM
> > > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > > >
> > > > > The version of touchy I'm running doesn't have the 3d preview.
I'm
> > > > using
> > > > > it on a lathe and typically run wizards, so I don't miss the
preview.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have an MGP type jog wheel and some buttons mounted around the
> > frame,
> > > > > connected via a homemade USB HID controller.  The jog wheel and
> > buttons
> > > > are
> > > > > wired up like they were a pendant.
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/wordpress/2019/09/25/cnc-lathe-touch-screen
-interface/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:52 PM
> > > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > > >
> > > > > Does Touchy now have the 3D preview that Jon mentioned?  Are you
> > using a
> > > > > rotary MPG type knob for it?  Back when I was using MACH3 I bought
a
> > > > MODIO
> > > > > which has a 100 PPR encoder and buttons and uses MODBUS to talk to
> > MACH3.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think there's a driver for it under LinuxCNC.  Again something
like
> > > > that
> > > > > with buttons along a standard monitor with the buttons taking the
> > place
> > > > of
> > > > > the touch screen inputs.  Whether it be ModBus or CAN with CANopen
> > then
> > > > > becomes  a moot point.Still just 4 wires for power, ground and
> > coms
> > > > up
> > > > > to the display.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > > > > > Sent: June-01-21 6:47 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > > > Sub

Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users]

I always liked the rotary click wheel on many CRT monitors. Nice big wheel with 
an offset dimple. Put fingertip in dimple and push to get the menu, spin to 
highlight the configuration option then push. Spin again to select (for 
example) vertical position then push and spin to move the raster up or down. No 
slower (for me it was faster) than a mouse interface with "spin" controls that 
scroll a list or change a number. Only took me a few seconds to have a CRT's 
image all tweaked. That's why people lamented the loss of the clickwheel on 
iPods. It was FAST, easy to use, and didn't need eyes on it to be able to use 
it.
 
My current LCD has five buttons on the back. Only the bottom one (on/off) has a 
tiny bump. The other four are ??? and after the menu is brought up, their 
positions don't align with the order of the menu selections so one is literally 
poking around blindly trying to find what does what. Even a row of clearly 
labeled buttons on the front of a monitor was slower than a click wheel. If TV 
and monitor designers want a "blind poking" physical interface tucked around on 
the back side, they should bring back the click wheel. I have a couple of 
Samsung TVs that have, of all things, a tiny joystick *and* some buttons on the 
back. Now that is a crazy thing.

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 7:38:13 PM MDT, John Dammeyer 
 wrote:  
 Personally I like the tactile feedback of a button that moves.  But moving 
from buttons over to a mouse to then select entries is tedious so I can see 
either a number of buttons or a touch screen for that sort of thing.

For the same reason I really detest those interfaces based on Arduino's that, 
due to limited I/O use a rotary knob and button to select from all sorts of 
menus.  Or worse test enter each digit one at a time using the rotary knob.
Shudder

Way back HP had the right idea with what they called soft keys.  A row of 
mechanical buttons along the edges of the screen to select options displayed 
beside the button.  My Tek scope has those and the stupid rotary knobs.  
Invariably since they have two of those I tend to choose the wrong one first.

But to design such a user screen for LinuxCNC implies you also have to provide 
the buttons (and maybe a knob).  Easy to do with CANopen or ModBus or if you 
have one of the high i/o count MESA boards but then you are also running a 
bundle of wires up rather than a network cable.

Thanks for the feedback.
John Dammeyer  
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 02 June 2021 01:17:27 John Dammeyer wrote:

> These are from 2011 or so.
> https://github.com/LinuxCNC/wizards

And this nicely demo's github's total lack of a way to see what this 
project does. I have 2 of my 4 machines loaded up and only half working 
now because changes in linuxcnc have disabled camview and I need to take 
it back out of my configs.  I finally found a camera that works, for a 
$100 bill and the next update killed it again.  I guess cameras are not 
supposed to be used as edge finders etc with LinuxCNC?

If that is indeed the case, please tell me why its a bad idea.

There would I suspect, be a lot more interest in such as this link if 
thumbnail jpg's of the wizards looks were available so we could see if 
its usuable for us.

> Is anyone using them?

Excellent question John.

> > -Original Message-
> > From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: June-01-21 9:47 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> >
> > Never used the Mach ones.  But anything like the path pilot stuff.
> >
> > Eg profile cycles
> > Parting
> > Facing
> > Threading
> > Taper threading
> > Tapping
> > Grooving
> > Straight Turning
> > Etc.
> >
> > Only ones I really want are the first 4
> >
> > Just for easy fast jobs without cam
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 4:37 PM John Dammeyer  
wrote:
> > > Specifically what sort of wizards.  Like the MACH ones?
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: June-01-21 9:24 PM
> > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > >
> > > > Need to get this conversational stuff going on my machines.
> > > >
> > > > It would be good to get something set up that is part of the
> > > > install iso for axis maybe for the wizards
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 4:18 PM John Dammeyer
> > > > 
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Nicely done!
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > > > > > Sent: June-01-21 9:10 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The version of touchy I'm running doesn't have the 3d
> > > > > > preview.   I'm
> > > > >
> > > > > using
> > > > >
> > > > > > it on a lathe and typically run wizards, so I don't miss the
> > > > > > preview.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have an MGP type jog wheel and some buttons mounted around
> > > > > > the
> > >
> > > frame,
> > >
> > > > > > connected via a homemade USB HID controller.  The jog wheel
> > > > > > and
> > >
> > > buttons
> > >
> > > > > are
> > > > >
> > > > > > wired up like they were a pendant.
> > >
> > > http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/wordpress/2019/09/25/cnc-lathe-to
> > >uch-screen-interface/
> > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:52 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does Touchy now have the 3D preview that Jon mentioned?  Are
> > > > > > you
> > >
> > > using a
> > >
> > > > > > rotary MPG type knob for it?  Back when I was using MACH3 I
> > > > > > bought a
> > > > >
> > > > > MODIO
> > > > >
> > > > > > which has a 100 PPR encoder and buttons and uses MODBUS to
> > > > > > talk to
> > >
> > > MACH3.
> > >
> > > > > > I think there's a driver for it under LinuxCNC.  Again
> > > > > > something like
> > > > >
> > > > > that
> > > > >
> > > > > > with button

Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[John Dammeyer]

These are from 2011 or so.
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/wizards
 
Is anyone using them?

> -Original Message-
> From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com]
> Sent: June-01-21 9:47 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> Never used the Mach ones.  But anything like the path pilot stuff.
> 
> Eg profile cycles
> Parting
> Facing
> Threading
> Taper threading
> Tapping
> Grooving
> Straight Turning
> Etc.
> 
> Only ones I really want are the first 4
> 
> Just for easy fast jobs without cam
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 4:37 PM John Dammeyer  wrote:
> 
> > Specifically what sort of wizards.  Like the MACH ones?
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: June-01-21 9:24 PM
> > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > >
> > > Need to get this conversational stuff going on my machines.
> > >
> > > It would be good to get something set up that is part of the install iso
> > > for axis maybe for the wizards
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 4:18 PM John Dammeyer 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nicely done!
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > > > > Sent: June-01-21 9:10 PM
> > > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > > >
> > > > > The version of touchy I'm running doesn't have the 3d preview.   I'm
> > > > using
> > > > > it on a lathe and typically run wizards, so I don't miss the preview.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have an MGP type jog wheel and some buttons mounted around the
> > frame,
> > > > > connected via a homemade USB HID controller.  The jog wheel and
> > buttons
> > > > are
> > > > > wired up like they were a pendant.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/wordpress/2019/09/25/cnc-lathe-touch-screen-interface/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:52 PM
> > > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > > >
> > > > > Does Touchy now have the 3D preview that Jon mentioned?  Are you
> > using a
> > > > > rotary MPG type knob for it?  Back when I was using MACH3 I bought a
> > > > MODIO
> > > > > which has a 100 PPR encoder and buttons and uses MODBUS to talk to
> > MACH3.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think there's a driver for it under LinuxCNC.  Again something like
> > > > that
> > > > > with buttons along a standard monitor with the buttons taking the
> > place
> > > > of
> > > > > the touch screen inputs.  Whether it be ModBus or CAN with CANopen
> > then
> > > > > becomes  a moot point.Still just 4 wires for power, ground and
> > coms
> > > > up
> > > > > to the display.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > > > > > Sent: June-01-21 6:47 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I got one of these...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886510797.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The side brackets are removable and it has vesa mounting holes on
> > the
> > > > > back.
> > > > > > I use it with a PC - HDMI and USB connection.  I use it with
> > touchy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 9:07 AM
> > > &g

Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andrew beck]

Never used the Mach ones.  But anything like the path pilot stuff.

Eg profile cycles
Parting
Facing
Threading
Taper threading
Tapping
Grooving
Straight Turning
Etc.

Only ones I really want are the first 4

Just for easy fast jobs without cam


On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 4:37 PM John Dammeyer  wrote:

> Specifically what sort of wizards.  Like the MACH ones?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: June-01-21 9:24 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> >
> > Need to get this conversational stuff going on my machines.
> >
> > It would be good to get something set up that is part of the install iso
> > for axis maybe for the wizards
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 4:18 PM John Dammeyer 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Nicely done!
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > > > Sent: June-01-21 9:10 PM
> > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > >
> > > > The version of touchy I'm running doesn't have the 3d preview.   I'm
> > > using
> > > > it on a lathe and typically run wizards, so I don't miss the preview.
> > > >
> > > > I have an MGP type jog wheel and some buttons mounted around the
> frame,
> > > > connected via a homemade USB HID controller.  The jog wheel and
> buttons
> > > are
> > > > wired up like they were a pendant.
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/wordpress/2019/09/25/cnc-lathe-touch-screen-interface/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:52 PM
> > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > >
> > > > Does Touchy now have the 3D preview that Jon mentioned?  Are you
> using a
> > > > rotary MPG type knob for it?  Back when I was using MACH3 I bought a
> > > MODIO
> > > > which has a 100 PPR encoder and buttons and uses MODBUS to talk to
> MACH3.
> > > >
> > > > I think there's a driver for it under LinuxCNC.  Again something like
> > > that
> > > > with buttons along a standard monitor with the buttons taking the
> place
> > > of
> > > > the touch screen inputs.  Whether it be ModBus or CAN with CANopen
> then
> > > > becomes  a moot point.Still just 4 wires for power, ground and
> coms
> > > up
> > > > to the display.
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > > > > Sent: June-01-21 6:47 PM
> > > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > > >
> > > > > I got one of these...
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886510797.html
> > > > >
> > > > > The side brackets are removable and it has vesa mounting holes on
> the
> > > > back.
> > > > > I use it with a PC - HDMI and USB connection.  I use it with
> touchy.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 9:07 AM
> > > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > > > Subject: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > > >
> > > > > If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is
> there
> > > any
> > > > > particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
> > > > >
> > > > > And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a
> more
> > > > usable
> > > > > screen?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe"
> > > > > Automation Artisans Inc.
> > > > > www dot autoartisans dot com
> > > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[John Dammeyer]

Specifically what sort of wizards.  Like the MACH ones?

> -Original Message-
> From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com]
> Sent: June-01-21 9:24 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> Need to get this conversational stuff going on my machines.
> 
> It would be good to get something set up that is part of the install iso
> for axis maybe for the wizards
> 
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 4:18 PM John Dammeyer  wrote:
> 
> > Nicely done!
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > > Sent: June-01-21 9:10 PM
> > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > >
> > > The version of touchy I'm running doesn't have the 3d preview.   I'm
> > using
> > > it on a lathe and typically run wizards, so I don't miss the preview.
> > >
> > > I have an MGP type jog wheel and some buttons mounted around the frame,
> > > connected via a homemade USB HID controller.  The jog wheel and buttons
> > are
> > > wired up like they were a pendant.
> > >
> > http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/wordpress/2019/09/25/cnc-lathe-touch-screen-interface/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:52 PM
> > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > >
> > > Does Touchy now have the 3D preview that Jon mentioned?  Are you using a
> > > rotary MPG type knob for it?  Back when I was using MACH3 I bought a
> > MODIO
> > > which has a 100 PPR encoder and buttons and uses MODBUS to talk to MACH3.
> > >
> > > I think there's a driver for it under LinuxCNC.  Again something like
> > that
> > > with buttons along a standard monitor with the buttons taking the place
> > of
> > > the touch screen inputs.  Whether it be ModBus or CAN with CANopen then
> > > becomes  a moot point.Still just 4 wires for power, ground and coms
> > up
> > > to the display.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > > > Sent: June-01-21 6:47 PM
> > > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > >
> > > > I got one of these...
> > > >
> > > > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886510797.html
> > > >
> > > > The side brackets are removable and it has vesa mounting holes on the
> > > back.
> > > > I use it with a PC - HDMI and USB connection.  I use it with touchy.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 9:07 AM
> > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > > Subject: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > > >
> > > > If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there
> > any
> > > > particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
> > > >
> > > > And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more
> > > usable
> > > > screen?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe"
> > > > Automation Artisans Inc.
> > > > www dot autoartisans dot com
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[andrew beck]

Need to get this conversational stuff going on my machines.

It would be good to get something set up that is part of the install iso
for axis maybe for the wizards

On Wed, Jun 2, 2021, 4:18 PM John Dammeyer  wrote:

> Nicely done!
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > Sent: June-01-21 9:10 PM
> > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> >
> > The version of touchy I'm running doesn't have the 3d preview.   I'm
> using
> > it on a lathe and typically run wizards, so I don't miss the preview.
> >
> > I have an MGP type jog wheel and some buttons mounted around the frame,
> > connected via a homemade USB HID controller.  The jog wheel and buttons
> are
> > wired up like they were a pendant.
> >
> http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/wordpress/2019/09/25/cnc-lathe-touch-screen-interface/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:52 PM
> > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> >
> > Does Touchy now have the 3D preview that Jon mentioned?  Are you using a
> > rotary MPG type knob for it?  Back when I was using MACH3 I bought a
> MODIO
> > which has a 100 PPR encoder and buttons and uses MODBUS to talk to MACH3.
> >
> > I think there's a driver for it under LinuxCNC.  Again something like
> that
> > with buttons along a standard monitor with the buttons taking the place
> of
> > the touch screen inputs.  Whether it be ModBus or CAN with CANopen then
> > becomes  a moot point.Still just 4 wires for power, ground and coms
> up
> > to the display.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > > Sent: June-01-21 6:47 PM
> > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > >
> > > I got one of these...
> > >
> > > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886510797.html
> > >
> > > The side brackets are removable and it has vesa mounting holes on the
> > back.
> > > I use it with a PC - HDMI and USB connection.  I use it with touchy.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 9:07 AM
> > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > > Subject: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> > >
> > > If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there
> any
> > > particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
> > >
> > > And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more
> > usable
> > > screen?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > John
> > >
> > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe"
> > > Automation Artisans Inc.
> > > www dot autoartisans dot com
> > >
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[John Dammeyer]

Nicely done!

> -Original Message-
> From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> Sent: June-01-21 9:10 PM
> To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> The version of touchy I'm running doesn't have the 3d preview.   I'm using
> it on a lathe and typically run wizards, so I don't miss the preview.
> 
> I have an MGP type jog wheel and some buttons mounted around the frame,
> connected via a homemade USB HID controller.  The jog wheel and buttons are
> wired up like they were a pendant.
> http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/wordpress/2019/09/25/cnc-lathe-touch-screen-interface/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:52 PM
> To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> Does Touchy now have the 3D preview that Jon mentioned?  Are you using a
> rotary MPG type knob for it?  Back when I was using MACH3 I bought a MODIO
> which has a 100 PPR encoder and buttons and uses MODBUS to talk to MACH3.
> 
> I think there's a driver for it under LinuxCNC.  Again something like that
> with buttons along a standard monitor with the buttons taking the place of
> the touch screen inputs.  Whether it be ModBus or CAN with CANopen then
> becomes  a moot point.Still just 4 wires for power, ground and coms up
> to the display.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> > Sent: June-01-21 6:47 PM
> > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> >
> > I got one of these...
> >
> > https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886510797.html
> >
> > The side brackets are removable and it has vesa mounting holes on the
> back.
> > I use it with a PC - HDMI and USB connection.  I use it with touchy.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 9:07 AM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> >
> > If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
> > particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
> >
> > And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more
> usable
> > screen?
> >
> > Thanks
> > John
> >
> > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe"
> > Automation Artisans Inc.
> > www dot autoartisans dot com
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Frank Tkalcevic]

The version of touchy I'm running doesn't have the 3d preview.   I'm using
it on a lathe and typically run wizards, so I don't miss the preview.  

I have an MGP type jog wheel and some buttons mounted around the frame,
connected via a homemade USB HID controller.  The jog wheel and buttons are
wired up like they were a pendant.
http://www.franksworkshop.com.au/wordpress/2019/09/25/cnc-lathe-touch-screen
-interface/



-Original Message-
From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 12:52 PM
To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

Does Touchy now have the 3D preview that Jon mentioned?  Are you using a
rotary MPG type knob for it?  Back when I was using MACH3 I bought a MODIO
which has a 100 PPR encoder and buttons and uses MODBUS to talk to MACH3.

I think there's a driver for it under LinuxCNC.  Again something like that
with buttons along a standard monitor with the buttons taking the place of
the touch screen inputs.  Whether it be ModBus or CAN with CANopen then
becomes  a moot point.Still just 4 wires for power, ground and coms up
to the display.

> -Original Message-
> From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> Sent: June-01-21 6:47 PM
> To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> I got one of these...
> 
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886510797.html
> 
> The side brackets are removable and it has vesa mounting holes on the
back.
> I use it with a PC - HDMI and USB connection.  I use it with touchy.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 9:07 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
> particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
> 
> And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more
usable
> screen?
> 
> Thanks
> John
> 
> "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe"
> Automation Artisans Inc.
> www dot autoartisans dot com
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[John Dammeyer]

Does Touchy now have the 3D preview that Jon mentioned?  Are you using a rotary 
MPG type knob for it?  Back when I was using MACH3 I bought a MODIO which has a 
100 PPR encoder and buttons and uses MODBUS to talk to MACH3.

I think there's a driver for it under LinuxCNC.  Again something like that with 
buttons along a standard monitor with the buttons taking the place of the touch 
screen inputs.  Whether it be ModBus or CAN with CANopen then becomes  a moot 
point.Still just 4 wires for power, ground and coms up to the display.

> -Original Message-
> From: Frank Tkalcevic [mailto:fr...@franksworkshop.com.au]
> Sent: June-01-21 6:47 PM
> To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)'
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> I got one of these...
> 
> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886510797.html
> 
> The side brackets are removable and it has vesa mounting holes on the back.
> I use it with a PC - HDMI and USB connection.  I use it with touchy.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 9:07 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
> particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
> 
> And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more usable
> screen?
> 
> Thanks
> John
> 
> "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe"
> Automation Artisans Inc.
> www dot autoartisans dot com
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Frank Tkalcevic]

I got one of these...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886510797.html

The side brackets are removable and it has vesa mounting holes on the back.
I use it with a PC - HDMI and USB connection.  I use it with touchy.



-Original Message-
From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 June 2021 9:07 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
 
And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more usable
screen?
 
Thanks
John
 
"ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe"
Automation Artisans Inc.
www dot autoartisans dot com 
 

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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Jon Elson]

On 06/01/2021 06:07 PM, John Dammeyer wrote:

If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any 
particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
  
And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more usable screen?
  

You may want to use "touchy" with a touch screen, it is 
designed for that.
You need a red and a green button and a jog dial, too.  With 
that, you can
pretty much control the system with no keyboard at all.  The 
jog dial can be used to scroll through menus like a scroll 
wheel on a mouse.  The reason I did not like it is because 
there was no 3D preview of the G-code program.  That has 
been very helpful when setting up and to verify where
the origin is, and that you have loaded the right program.  
I think touchy now has a 3D preview tab as well.


Jon


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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[John Dammeyer]

Personally I like the tactile feedback of a button that moves.  But moving from 
buttons over to a mouse to then select entries is tedious so I can see either a 
number of buttons or a touch screen for that sort of thing.

For the same reason I really detest those interfaces based on Arduino's that, 
due to limited I/O use a rotary knob and button to select from all sorts of 
menus.  Or worse test enter each digit one at a time using the rotary knob.
Shudder

Way back HP had the right idea with what they called soft keys.  A row of 
mechanical buttons along the edges of the screen to select options displayed 
beside the button.  My Tek scope has those and the stupid rotary knobs.  
Invariably since they have two of those I tend to choose the wrong one first.

But to design such a user screen for LinuxCNC implies you also have to provide 
the buttons (and maybe a knob).  Easy to do with CANopen or ModBus or if you 
have one of the high i/o count MESA boards but then you are also running a 
bundle of wires up rather than a network cable.

Thanks for the feedback.
John Dammeyer


> -Original Message-
> From: Stuart Stevenson [mailto:stus...@gmail.com]
> Sent: June-01-21 6:10 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=elo+1525L&_sacat=0
> 
> I have used these before. The USB version just works out of the box with
> every Linux distribution I have tried. In fact they work before Linux is
> booted up on most of them. The serial ones work just fine but you need the
> software from ELO(Microtouch now I think). They have the software and are
> happy to help you configure it. (at least they used to be very helpful)
> 
> HTH
> Stuart
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 7:29 PM  wrote:
> 
> > I've been using this with PathPilot since 2015:
> > https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B004C4WTJA/
> > No problems.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Gerrit Visser 
> > Sent: June 1, 2021 7:22 PM
> > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' 
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> >
> > I bought this last month for use with Pathpilot. Works great. Resistive
> > touch so not sensitive to wet fingers.
> > https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B083WF327D
> > CA$250 plus HST
> >
> > Gerrit
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Dammeyer 
> > Sent: June 1, 2021 7:07 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
> > Subject: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> >
> > If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
> > particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
> >
> > And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more
> > usable
> > screen?
> >
> > Thanks
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Stuart Stevenson]

I favor the Touchy interface. You will need jog buttons and any other
button that could possibly cause machine motion. Touchy was written to not
allow machine motion from the touchscreen.


On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 8:07 PM John Dammeyer  wrote:

> I have an older wired Pendant like this one.
>
> https://www.amazon.ca/Wireless-Mach3-Pendant-Handwheel-Mac-Mach/dp/B00SH0V1P8
>
> I waffle back and forth between keyboard operations and the pendant.   I'm
> not sure how useful the touch screen would be relative to a pendant and
> keyboard.  At some point typing in G-Code end up being done.
>
> Would the common operations that are on the touch screen be any more
> difficult if instead there was a panel of buttons right beside the screen?
> Like the jog buttons or is it easiest right on the display?
>
> John
>
>
>
> > From: ken.stra...@gmail.com [mailto:ken.stra...@gmail.com]
> >
> > I've been using this with PathPilot since 2015:
> > https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B004C4WTJA/
> > No problems.
>
>
> > From: Gerrit Visser 
> >
> > I bought this last month for use with Pathpilot. Works great. Resistive
> > touch so not sensitive to wet fingers.
> > https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B083WF327D
> > CA$250 plus HST
>
>
> > From: John Dammeyer 
>
>
> > If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
> > particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
> >
> > And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more
> usable
> > screen?
> >
> > Thanks
> > John
> >
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Stuart Stevenson]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=elo+1525L&_sacat=0

I have used these before. The USB version just works out of the box with
every Linux distribution I have tried. In fact they work before Linux is
booted up on most of them. The serial ones work just fine but you need the
software from ELO(Microtouch now I think). They have the software and are
happy to help you configure it. (at least they used to be very helpful)

HTH
Stuart


On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 7:29 PM  wrote:

> I've been using this with PathPilot since 2015:
> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B004C4WTJA/
> No problems.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gerrit Visser 
> Sent: June 1, 2021 7:22 PM
> To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
>
> I bought this last month for use with Pathpilot. Works great. Resistive
> touch so not sensitive to wet fingers.
> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B083WF327D
> CA$250 plus HST
>
> Gerrit
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Dammeyer 
> Sent: June 1, 2021 7:07 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
> Subject: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
>
> If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
> particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
>
> And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more
> usable
> screen?
>
> Thanks
> John
>
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[John Dammeyer]

I have an older wired Pendant like this one.  
https://www.amazon.ca/Wireless-Mach3-Pendant-Handwheel-Mac-Mach/dp/B00SH0V1P8

I waffle back and forth between keyboard operations and the pendant.   I'm not 
sure how useful the touch screen would be relative to a pendant and keyboard.  
At some point typing in G-Code end up being done.  

Would the common operations that are on the touch screen be any more difficult 
if instead there was a panel of buttons right beside the screen?  Like the jog 
buttons or is it easiest right on the display?

John



> From: ken.stra...@gmail.com [mailto:ken.stra...@gmail.com]
> 
> I've been using this with PathPilot since 2015:
> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B004C4WTJA/
> No problems.


> From: Gerrit Visser 
> 
> I bought this last month for use with Pathpilot. Works great. Resistive
> touch so not sensitive to wet fingers.
> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B083WF327D
> CA$250 plus HST


> From: John Dammeyer 


> If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
> particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
> 
> And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more usable
> screen?
> 
> Thanks
> John
> 



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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[ken.strauss]

I've been using this with PathPilot since 2015:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B004C4WTJA/ 
No problems.

-Original Message-
From: Gerrit Visser  
Sent: June 1, 2021 7:22 PM
To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

I bought this last month for use with Pathpilot. Works great. Resistive
touch so not sensitive to wet fingers.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B083WF327D
CA$250 plus HST

Gerrit

-Original Message-
From: John Dammeyer 
Sent: June 1, 2021 7:07 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
Subject: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
 
And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more usable
screen?
 
Thanks
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Feral Engineer]

That's the one. I was getting them for 189/199usd before the chip shortage.

I use gmoccapy on my lathe and alternate between gmoccapy and probe basic
on my router. Now that dragon has a 1920 option, I may try that as well. I
tinker, so I'm forever trying new stuff.

Phil T.
The Feral Engineer

Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at
www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 7:31 PM John Dammeyer  wrote:

> Yikes.  Only number that came up was the VT229H from ASUS.
>
> https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-vt229h-21-5-lcd-touchscreen-monitor-16-9-5-ms-gtg/13502567
>
> On sale for a few days for $357.99 w/o PST/GST taxes or a nice even $401
> Cdn.
>
> What are you using for the display software?
> [DISPLAY]
> DISPLAY = axis
>
> John
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Feral Engineer [mailto:theferalengin...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: June-01-21 4:14 PM
> > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> >
> > I have a planar pct2235 and an asus vct229. Recommend the asus. The
> planar
> > has an issue where if you jog from the screen buttons and multi touch on
> > accident, the jog button latches and takes off.
> >
> > Phil T.
> > The Feral Engineer
> >
> > Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at
> > www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 7:10 PM John Dammeyer 
> wrote:
> >
> > > If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there
> any
> > > particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
> > >
> > > And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more
> > > usable screen?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > John
> > >
> > > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe"
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Gerrit Visser]

I bought this last month for use with Pathpilot. Works great. Resistive
touch so not sensitive to wet fingers.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B083WF327D
CA$250 plus HST

Gerrit

-Original Message-
From: John Dammeyer  
Sent: June 1, 2021 7:07 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
Subject: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
 
And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more usable
screen?
 
Thanks
John



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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[John Dammeyer]

Yikes.  Only number that came up was the VT229H from ASUS.
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-vt229h-21-5-lcd-touchscreen-monitor-16-9-5-ms-gtg/13502567

On sale for a few days for $357.99 w/o PST/GST taxes or a nice even $401 Cdn.

What are you using for the display software?
[DISPLAY]
DISPLAY = axis

John


> -Original Message-
> From: Feral Engineer [mailto:theferalengin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: June-01-21 4:14 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC
> 
> I have a planar pct2235 and an asus vct229. Recommend the asus. The planar
> has an issue where if you jog from the screen buttons and multi touch on
> accident, the jog button latches and takes off.
> 
> Phil T.
> The Feral Engineer
> 
> Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at
> www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer
> 
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 7:10 PM John Dammeyer  wrote:
> 
> > If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
> > particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
> >
> > And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more
> > usable screen?
> >
> > Thanks
> > John
> >
> > "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe"
> > Automation Artisans Inc.
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Re: [Emc-users] Touch screen for LinuxCNC

[Feral Engineer]

I have a planar pct2235 and an asus vct229. Recommend the asus. The planar
has an issue where if you jog from the screen buttons and multi touch on
accident, the jog button latches and takes off.

Phil T.
The Feral Engineer

Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at
www.youtube.com/c/theferalengineer

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 7:10 PM John Dammeyer  wrote:

> If I wanted to set up a Pi4 with LinuxCNC and a touch screen is there any
> particular one that jumps out as the best solution?
>
> And with an LCD display/touch screen other than 'axis' what is a more
> usable screen?
>
> Thanks
> John
>
> "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe"
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> www dot autoartisans dot com
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