Re: [E-devel] EFM drag animation was -> Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018 13:23:18 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > h. now THAT is possible. a window - no. icons on desktop? yes. > but you did say it happened once ever... I said the battery icon on desktop I could not click on happened once. The stuck drag animation for EFM/Desktop has happened many times. > not like it's an endemic problem. i've never seen it though and > don't know how to reproduce it. i have tried... I cannot reproduce either. The battery one I haven't tried, as it only happened once, and I cannot replicate. The stuck drag/drop animation, I did try to replicate and could not. That will have to happen as it has naturally on accident. If its not a bug already fixed in EFL. That is possible as well. It has been a bit since I have seen that issue. Maybe pre 1.20.6, not sure. > but the above implies it happens more than once,m but further up you > said just once ever (which indicates this as rare and hard to make > happen)? Different issues, battery gadget on my shelf also showing on Desktop in random location happened once. The stuck drag/drop animation from EFM/Desktop has happened numerous times. I just cannot replicate, nor recall when I last saw it, Seems like its been a bit, couple months. But I have experienced that many times in the past. Thus I can recall it and see the imagery in my head. > > I surely will, but this I am not sure I can replicate via steps. It > > tends to happen on accident. Miss click something in a window, ends > > up on desktop, maybe some sort of drag operation that launches a > > new EFM window. Honestly no clue, I spent like 30 minutes the other > > day trying to replicate my insanity that causes such during work > > flow. > > sounds hard to make happen... :/ For sure. I never did it on purpose, it always happened on accident, miss click, etc. > nah. the object is just not being deleted. somehow. why is it being > skipped? that's the question. I guess my insanity in miss clicking must cause some callback to not fire or something. Or something had an error. If/when it happens again I will make sure to check any logs, session, e-crashdump, etc. > > Its all guessing till I can at least provide a screenshot to show, > > and ideally steps to replicate. I would not hold your breath. Its > > been a bit since I last seen it, and maybe fixed with newer EFL... > > steps to make it happen would be perfect. :) it may be that it's been > fixed and its just some transitory bug in efl or e and not really a > core issue. i don't know. if it was happening regularly then i'd be > able to hunt it down. it would be annoying. :) Yeah I will just have to keep an eye out for it in general. If it happens again, will do my best to replicate. If I never see it again, could be some bug fixed :) Even better! -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpjuiewHgKXS.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] EFM drag animation was -> Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:13:03 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 01:20:51 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 10:21:38 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." > > said: > > > > >The other day the battery icon was on my desktop as > > > well. It was also on the shelf, but somehow it was on desktop. I > > > could not click on it or anything. After log out and back in, it > > > went away. > > > > that theoretically could happen as objects in shelf are also in the > > main compositor canvas. but also... you can put gadgets on the > > desktop too. > > Yes, I am aware of the gadgets on desktop. I figured it was > something along those lines, but I could not click on it or anything. > Which if it was a normal gadget on desktop, it would have all the same > function on click, mouse over, etc. > > That has only happened once ever, and not sure how. > > > > The arrow animation stuck on the desktop, I know for a fact I have > > > seen more than once. I am for sure remembering that very clearly. > > > It maybe impossible, but it has happened for me. I have a great > > > memory for such things, photographic... I can see it still > > > Rather than debate, I will just take a screenshot next time. That > > > cannot be debated. > > > > if it was dnd into a window - a dir in there. it isn't possible but > > if it was a dir on your desktop, then it would be possible. you did > > say you never had dirs on your desktop, right? so taking that out of > > the picture... it really can't happen. :/ > > Sorry I meant the animation was not stuck over a folder on the desktop. h. now THAT is possible. a window - no. icons on desktop? yes. but you did say it happened once ever... not like it's an endemic problem. i've never seen it though and don't know how to reproduce it. i have tried... > I do have folders on my desktop. But the stuck animation ends up over > nothing. No icons, files or folders. Where ever the EFM window was, and > the folder inside that with the stuck animation. That is where it > remains after closing EFM and the animation keeps going on desktop. > > Where I do for sure have folders on the desktop. But the stuck > animation is off on its own, over nothing. > > It is related to EFM + Desktop, as it happens when I accidentally drag > or drop or something. It is never intentional, the action that causes > it to get stuck. Thus I cannot replicate easily if at all. but the above implies it happens more than once,m but further up you said just once ever (which indicates this as rare and hard to make happen)? > > > > > I do not believe you can restart EFM like you can E. I will try > > > > > to restart that process or something next time to see if that > > > > > fixes. Restarting E of course does fix, either via menu or log > > > > > out/in. > > > > > > > > restarting e restarts efm. its the same thing. you can close and > > > > open efm windows. you can also unload the fileman module and load > > > > it. again. the module just provides the emf window wrapper and > > > > desktop icons. the efm core that handles listing dirs, the icons, > > > > their dnd and animation etc. is in e itself. it is the same thing > > > > used for the file selector in e. that's efm. actually 2 efm views > > > > (one for shortcuts/places, one for the directory content) > > > > > > Next I have problems I will experiment. I just know EFM has been a > > > problem for me more than once. > > > > if you find issues. bring them up - let me know. show me how to > > reproduce them. > > I surely will, but this I am not sure I can replicate via steps. It > tends to happen on accident. Miss click something in a window, ends up > on desktop, maybe some sort of drag operation that launches a new EFM > window. Honestly no clue, I spent like 30 minutes the other day trying > to replicate my insanity that causes such during work flow. sounds hard to make happen... :/ > > i have to narrow down what and why and at least for the above unless > > it was icons on the desktop i can't so how it's even possible, so i'm > > guessing it was something else. > > Sure, I wish I could provide more concrete information and details. It > could be something I borked in my theme, or in the theme I based mine > off. It could be many things. > > Offhand, I would say maybe EDJE is not getting the signal to end the > animation. Why it keeps going on the desktop, could be due to having > folders on the desktop. Even though the stuck animation is not over > anything. Though opening EFM never ends it, so maybe its not EDJE but > something else. nah. the object is just not being deleted. somehow. why is it being skipped? that's the question. > Its all guessing till I can at least provide a screenshot to show, and > ideally steps to replicate. I would not hold your breath. Its been a > bit since I last seen it, and maybe fixed with newer EFL... steps to make it happen would be perfect. :)
Re: [E-devel] EFM drag animation was -> Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL
On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 01:20:51 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 10:21:38 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." > said: > > >The other day the battery icon was on my desktop as > > well. It was also on the shelf, but somehow it was on desktop. I > > could not click on it or anything. After log out and back in, it > > went away. > > that theoretically could happen as objects in shelf are also in the > main compositor canvas. but also... you can put gadgets on the > desktop too. Yes, I am aware of the gadgets on desktop. I figured it was something along those lines, but I could not click on it or anything. Which if it was a normal gadget on desktop, it would have all the same function on click, mouse over, etc. That has only happened once ever, and not sure how. > > The arrow animation stuck on the desktop, I know for a fact I have > > seen more than once. I am for sure remembering that very clearly. > > It maybe impossible, but it has happened for me. I have a great > > memory for such things, photographic... I can see it still > > Rather than debate, I will just take a screenshot next time. That > > cannot be debated. > > if it was dnd into a window - a dir in there. it isn't possible but > if it was a dir on your desktop, then it would be possible. you did > say you never had dirs on your desktop, right? so taking that out of > the picture... it really can't happen. :/ Sorry I meant the animation was not stuck over a folder on the desktop. I do have folders on my desktop. But the stuck animation ends up over nothing. No icons, files or folders. Where ever the EFM window was, and the folder inside that with the stuck animation. That is where it remains after closing EFM and the animation keeps going on desktop. Where I do for sure have folders on the desktop. But the stuck animation is off on its own, over nothing. It is related to EFM + Desktop, as it happens when I accidentally drag or drop or something. It is never intentional, the action that causes it to get stuck. Thus I cannot replicate easily if at all. > > > > I do not believe you can restart EFM like you can E. I will try > > > > to restart that process or something next time to see if that > > > > fixes. Restarting E of course does fix, either via menu or log > > > > out/in. > > > > > > restarting e restarts efm. its the same thing. you can close and > > > open efm windows. you can also unload the fileman module and load > > > it. again. the module just provides the emf window wrapper and > > > desktop icons. the efm core that handles listing dirs, the icons, > > > their dnd and animation etc. is in e itself. it is the same thing > > > used for the file selector in e. that's efm. actually 2 efm views > > > (one for shortcuts/places, one for the directory content) > > > > Next I have problems I will experiment. I just know EFM has been a > > problem for me more than once. > > if you find issues. bring them up - let me know. show me how to > reproduce them. I surely will, but this I am not sure I can replicate via steps. It tends to happen on accident. Miss click something in a window, ends up on desktop, maybe some sort of drag operation that launches a new EFM window. Honestly no clue, I spent like 30 minutes the other day trying to replicate my insanity that causes such during work flow. > i have to narrow down what and why and at least for the above unless > it was icons on the desktop i can't so how it's even possible, so i'm > guessing it was something else. Sure, I wish I could provide more concrete information and details. It could be something I borked in my theme, or in the theme I based mine off. It could be many things. Offhand, I would say maybe EDJE is not getting the signal to end the animation. Why it keeps going on the desktop, could be due to having folders on the desktop. Even though the stuck animation is not over anything. Though opening EFM never ends it, so maybe its not EDJE but something else. Its all guessing till I can at least provide a screenshot to show, and ideally steps to replicate. I would not hold your breath. Its been a bit since I last seen it, and maybe fixed with newer EFL... -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpU4pd8Bloz7.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] EFM drag animation was -> Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 10:21:38 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 16:38:34 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > > as i explained. that actually cannot be the case. the animation is > > rendered in that window. its in-canvas as part of the efm window and > > view... and thus if efm window goes - all objects in it go etc. ... > > so my guess sis you mis-remember things. > > I will provide a screenshot at some point for proof. I have seen odd > stuff at times. The other day the battery icon was on my desktop as > well. It was also on the shelf, but somehow it was on desktop. I could > not click on it or anything. After log out and back in, it went away. that theoretically could happen as objects in shelf are also in the main compositor canvas. but also... you can put gadgets on the desktop too. > The arrow animation stuck on the desktop, I know for a fact I have seen > more than once. I am for sure remembering that very clearly. It maybe > impossible, but it has happened for me. I have a great memory for such > things, photographic... I can see it still Rather than debate, I > will just take a screenshot next time. That cannot be debated. if it was dnd into a window - a dir in there. it isn't possible but if it was a dir on your desktop, then it would be possible. you did say you never had dirs on your desktop, right? so taking that out of the picture... it really can't happen. :/ > > > I do not believe you can restart EFM like you can E. I will try to > > > restart that process or something next time to see if that fixes. > > > Restarting E of course does fix, either via menu or log out/in. > > > > restarting e restarts efm. its the same thing. you can close and open > > efm windows. you can also unload the fileman module and load it. > > again. the module just provides the emf window wrapper and desktop > > icons. the efm core that handles listing dirs, the icons, their dnd > > and animation etc. is in e itself. it is the same thing used for the > > file selector in e. that's efm. actually 2 efm views (one for > > shortcuts/places, one for the directory content) > > Next I have problems I will experiment. I just know EFM has been a > problem for me more than once. if you find issues. bring them up - let me know. show me how to reproduce them. i have to narrow down what and why and at least for the above unless it was icons on the desktop i can't so how it's even possible, so i'm guessing it was something else. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] EFM drag animation was -> Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 16:38:34 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > as i explained. that actually cannot be the case. the animation is > rendered in that window. its in-canvas as part of the efm window and > view... and thus if efm window goes - all objects in it go etc. ... > so my guess sis you mis-remember things. I will provide a screenshot at some point for proof. I have seen odd stuff at times. The other day the battery icon was on my desktop as well. It was also on the shelf, but somehow it was on desktop. I could not click on it or anything. After log out and back in, it went away. The arrow animation stuck on the desktop, I know for a fact I have seen more than once. I am for sure remembering that very clearly. It maybe impossible, but it has happened for me. I have a great memory for such things, photographic... I can see it still Rather than debate, I will just take a screenshot next time. That cannot be debated. > > I do not believe you can restart EFM like you can E. I will try to > > restart that process or something next time to see if that fixes. > > Restarting E of course does fix, either via menu or log out/in. > > restarting e restarts efm. its the same thing. you can close and open > efm windows. you can also unload the fileman module and load it. > again. the module just provides the emf window wrapper and desktop > icons. the efm core that handles listing dirs, the icons, their dnd > and animation etc. is in e itself. it is the same thing used for the > file selector in e. that's efm. actually 2 efm views (one for > shortcuts/places, one for the directory content) Next I have problems I will experiment. I just know EFM has been a problem for me more than once. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpi_5Qtqu7CD.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] EFM drag animation was -> Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 11:57:03 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 11:28:01 -0500 > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 13:38:36 +0900 > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > > like arrows pointing in over a directory indicating you are going to > > > drop the file into the directory? > > > > I guess not sure. There are for arrows, one in each corner, and they > > like point in as part of their animation. Horrible description sorry! > > > > I cannot easily replicate that animation. If I drag a file over a > > folder nothing happens. Just noticed I cannot drag a file into a > > folder or anything. I am not sure how to trigger that animation, but > > seems like its some drag and drop. Though I think its happened on > > regular files not just folders. > > I dragged a file over a folder on the desktop and got the animation. > For some reason it was not triggering in EFM itself. Then after I did > that on the desktop. It started working again in EFM. > > I never have the animation stuck on desktop icons. It only gets stuck > in EFM, and then when that closes. The animation keeps going on the > desktop. I assume because same process or something not sure. as i explained. that actually cannot be the case. the animation is rendered in that window. its in-canvas as part of the efm window and view... and thus if efm window goes - all objects in it go etc. ... so my guess sis you mis-remember things. > I do not believe you can restart EFM like you can E. I will try to > restart that process or something next time to see if that fixes. > Restarting E of course does fix, either via menu or log out/in. restarting e restarts efm. its the same thing. you can close and open efm windows. you can also unload the fileman module and load it. again. the module just provides the emf window wrapper and desktop icons. the efm core that handles listing dirs, the icons, their dnd and animation etc. is in e itself. it is the same thing used for the file selector in e. that's efm. actually 2 efm views (one for shortcuts/places, one for the directory content) > I will play around and see if I can get it to get stuck and take a > screenshot, etc. > > -- > William L. Thomson Jr. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] EFM drag animation was -> Current State and Future Direction of E/EFL
On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 11:28:01 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > On Fri, 9 Mar 2018 13:38:36 +0900 > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > like arrows pointing in over a directory indicating you are going to > > drop the file into the directory? > > I guess not sure. There are for arrows, one in each corner, and they > like point in as part of their animation. Horrible description sorry! > > I cannot easily replicate that animation. If I drag a file over a > folder nothing happens. Just noticed I cannot drag a file into a > folder or anything. I am not sure how to trigger that animation, but > seems like its some drag and drop. Though I think its happened on > regular files not just folders. I dragged a file over a folder on the desktop and got the animation. For some reason it was not triggering in EFM itself. Then after I did that on the desktop. It started working again in EFM. I never have the animation stuck on desktop icons. It only gets stuck in EFM, and then when that closes. The animation keeps going on the desktop. I assume because same process or something not sure. I do not believe you can restart EFM like you can E. I will try to restart that process or something next time to see if that fixes. Restarting E of course does fix, either via menu or log out/in. I will play around and see if I can get it to get stuck and take a screenshot, etc. -- William L. Thomson Jr. pgpMNDbgT4dtK.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
