On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 12:13:03 -0400 "William L. Thomson Jr."
<wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said:

> On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 01:20:51 +0900
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 10:21:38 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr."
> > <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said:
> > 
> > >The other day the battery icon was on my desktop as
> > > well. It was also on the shelf, but somehow it was on desktop. I
> > > could not click on it or anything. After log out and back in, it
> > > went away.  
> > 
> > that theoretically could happen as objects in shelf are also in the
> > main compositor canvas. but also... you can put gadgets on the
> > desktop too.
> 
> Yes, I am aware of the gadgets on desktop. I figured it was
> something along those lines, but I could not click on it or anything.
> Which if it was a normal gadget on desktop, it would have all the same
> function on click, mouse over, etc.
> 
> That has only happened once ever, and not sure how.
> 
> > > The arrow animation stuck on the desktop, I know for a fact I have
> > > seen more than once. I am for sure remembering that very clearly.
> > > It maybe impossible, but it has happened for me. I have a great
> > > memory for such things, photographic... I can see it still....
> > > Rather than debate, I will just take a screenshot next time. That
> > > cannot be debated.  
> > 
> > if it was dnd into a window - a dir in there. it isn't possible but
> > if it was a dir on your desktop, then it would be possible. you did
> > say you never had dirs on your desktop, right? so taking that out of
> > the picture... it really can't happen. :/
> 
> Sorry I meant the animation was not stuck over a folder on the desktop.

aaaah. now THAT is possible. a window - no. icons on desktop? yes. but you did
say it happened once ever... not like it's an endemic problem. i've never seen
it though and don't know how to reproduce it. i have tried...

> I do have folders on my desktop. But the stuck animation ends up over
> nothing. No icons, files or folders. Where ever the EFM window was, and
> the folder inside that with the stuck animation. That is where it
> remains after closing EFM and the animation keeps going on desktop.
> 
> Where I do for sure have folders on the desktop. But the stuck
> animation is off on its own, over nothing.
> 
> It is related to EFM + Desktop, as it happens when I accidentally drag
> or drop or something. It is never intentional, the action that causes
> it to get stuck. Thus I cannot replicate easily if at all.

but the above implies it happens more than once,m but further up you said just
once ever (which indicates this as rare and hard to make happen)?

> > > > > I do not believe you can restart EFM like you can E. I will try
> > > > > to restart that process or something next time to see if that
> > > > > fixes. Restarting E of course does fix, either via menu or log
> > > > > out/in.    
> > > > 
> > > > restarting e restarts efm. its the same thing. you can close and
> > > > open efm windows. you can also unload the fileman module and load
> > > > it. again. the module just provides the emf window wrapper and
> > > > desktop icons. the efm core that handles listing dirs, the icons,
> > > > their dnd and animation etc. is in e itself. it is the same thing
> > > > used for the file selector in e. that's efm. actually 2 efm views
> > > > (one for shortcuts/places, one for the directory content)  
> > > 
> > > Next I have problems I will experiment. I just know EFM has been a
> > > problem for me more than once.   
> > 
> > if you find issues. bring them up - let me know. show me how to
> > reproduce them.
> 
> I surely will, but this I am not sure I can replicate via steps. It
> tends to happen on accident. Miss click something in a window, ends up
> on desktop, maybe some sort of drag operation that launches a new EFM
> window. Honestly no clue, I spent like 30 minutes the other day trying
> to replicate my insanity that causes such during work flow.

sounds hard to make happen... :/

> > i have to narrow down what and why and at least for the above unless
> > it was icons on the desktop i can't so how it's even possible, so i'm
> > guessing it was something else.
> 
> Sure, I wish I could provide more concrete information and details. It
> could be something I borked in my theme, or in the theme I based mine
> off. It could be many things.
> 
> Offhand, I would say maybe EDJE is not getting the signal to end the
> animation. Why it keeps going on the desktop, could be due to having
> folders on the desktop. Even though the stuck animation is not over
> anything. Though opening EFM never ends it, so maybe its not EDJE but
> something else.

nah. the object is just not being deleted. somehow. why is it being skipped?
that's the question.

> Its all guessing till I can at least provide a screenshot to show, and
> ideally steps to replicate. I would not hold your breath. Its been a
> bit since I last seen it, and maybe fixed with newer EFL...

steps to make it happen would be perfect. :) it may be that it's been fixed and
its just some transitory bug in efl or e and not really a core issue. i don't
know. if it was happening regularly then i'd be able to hunt it down. it would
be annoying. :)

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Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com


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