Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:45:12 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/12/2013 01:50, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 14:35:59 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Stefano
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: i've been bitten twice by ati/radeon drivers on linux. i shall never again go there. ever. my advice to anyone who comes with XXX is broken on my ati/radeon, which, to this very day is still the case. a recent case of

[e-users] Econnman 1.1 released

2013-12-11 Thread Kai Huuhko
We are pleased to announce release **1.1** of **Econnman**, available for download at http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/econnman/econnman-1.1.tar.gz == Changes in 1.1 == * Python 3 support * Faster initialization with python-efl 1.8 * Desktop file translations * More informative error

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 09:48:07 + Stefano pietran...@gmail.com said: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: i've been bitten twice by ati/radeon drivers on linux. i shall never again go there. ever. my advice to anyone who comes with XXX is broken on

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/12/2013 10:45, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 08:45:12 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: On 11/12/2013 01:50, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:07:37 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said:

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 10:30:35 Alan McKinnon wrote: I don't use fglrx, I run OSS radeon. The reason I don't use fglrx is because I can't figure the damn thing out but I ordered the hardware knowing in advance the radeon OSS drivers works just fine. Same here. I haven't used fglrx since

Re: [e-users] [Enlightenment-intl] EFL 1.8.1

2013-12-11 Thread Daniel Juyung Seo
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Daniel Juyung Seo seojuyu...@gmail.comwrote: As 1.8.1 is out, how about updating docs pages to search 1.8 not 1.7? http://web.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=docsl=en Any news about this idea? It still searches EFL 1.7 documentation which is relatively old. Thanks.

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 12:30:35 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com said: actually i had a longer reply, but i'll just keep it short. so in alan mckinnon land it's perfectly fine to tell people offering advice based on direct experience to stfu when they disagree with you (you seem to like

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread John C
Raster, If you read the post instead of getting your hackles up whenever you hear the name AMD/ATI you'd have noticed he was using the OSS driver. In your opinion, is the OSS radeon driver itself so bad? You've got a definite problem with people disagreeing with your opinion, and in some

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:14:26 +0100 John C goeland...@yahoo.fr said: Raster, If you read the post instead of getting your hackles up whenever you hear the name AMD/ATI you'd have noticed he was using the OSS driver. In your opinion, is the OSS radeon driver itself so bad? where. here is

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Barry
mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom line is really we all get to use Enlightenment for FREE!. And we love it. It's Raster's baby, and he has the right to do anything he damn well

Re: [e-users] EFL autogen problems on RHEL 6.5

2013-12-11 Thread Mathias Meisfjordskar
10. des. 2013 kl. 15:00 skrev Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com: how about you use the release tarballs as everyone should who doesn't want bleeding-edge git, and you compile things as per the insructions in the README's and the web page giving the order to compile things.

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom line is really we all get to use Enlightenment for FREE!. And we love it. It's

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Barry
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Barry
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom

Re: [e-users] EFL autogen problems on RHEL 6.5

2013-12-11 Thread Guillaume Friloux
On 11/12/2013 19:47, Mathias Meisfjordskar wrote: 10. des. 2013 kl. 15:00 skrev Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com: how about you use the release tarballs as everyone should who doesn't want bleeding-edge git, and you compile things as per the insructions in the README's

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Barry
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Barry
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom

Re: [e-users] EFL autogen problems on RHEL 6.5

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:47:57 +0100 Mathias Meisfjordskar mathias.meisfjords...@usit.uio.no said: 10. des. 2013 kl. 15:00 skrev Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com: how about you use the release tarballs as everyone should who doesn't want bleeding-edge git, and you

Re: [e-users] EFL autogen problems on RHEL 6.5

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 20:50:48 +0100 Guillaume Friloux guillaume.fril...@gmail.com said: On 11/12/2013 19:47, Mathias Meisfjordskar wrote: 10. des. 2013 kl. 15:00 skrev Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com: how about you use the release tarballs as everyone should who

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 13:37:58 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom line is really we all get to use Enlightenment for

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 14:38:38 -0500 Christopher Barry christopher.r.ba...@gmail.com said: On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 18:56:46 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com said: On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 18:37:58 Christopher Barry wrote: mega-snip... Wow all. I'm the OP, and seriously did not mean to cause such a stir or abrade old wounds with rock salt or anything. I guess the bottom

Re: [e-users] e18 on Radeon? WAS: Terminology 0.4.0 is out!

2013-12-11 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 Dec 2013 21:50:41 Christopher Barry wrote: Mick, can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin or somewhere for me? I'm assuming you are using the opengl compositing with radeon driver. I think I may have some remnants of ati stuff on my box, and would like to see what

Re: [e-users] EFL autogen problems on RHEL 6.5

2013-12-11 Thread Mathias Meisfjordskar
On 12/12/2013 01:03 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: i was just minorly annoyed at spending my time documenting how to build, and documenting that the efl tree is merged, and that all the work and effort of merging... results in the same old questions. i assume you hadn't even