Re: [e-users] QT variables

2024-05-08 Thread Simon Lees



On 4/28/24 11:20 PM, José Romildo Malaquias wrote:


On 21/04/2024 16:43, Simon Lees wrote:



On 4/22/24 12:59 AM, José Romildo Malaquias wrote:

On 11/04/2024 01:58, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:50:25 +0100 Wawrzek 
Niewodniczanski

said:


Hello,

I try to track what does set these 2 variables?

QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2
QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk2

Is it something in Enlightenment?

yes :)

Can this be made user configurable, please?


Not easily, but you should be able to overwrite them. Out of interest 
what would you prefer them to be? As far as I know this is the only 
combo that actually works properly its also possible to get working 
with Qt6 apps.



I would prefer the platform theme to be lxqt or qt6ct, and the style 
would be chosen using the platform theme configuration application. That 
would be very nice.


With https://github.com/trialuser02/qt6gtk2 you can select the theme 
using Enlightenment's theme dialogs.


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Re: [e-users] QT variables

2024-04-21 Thread Simon Lees



On 4/22/24 12:59 AM, José Romildo Malaquias wrote:

On 11/04/2024 01:58, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:50:25 +0100 Wawrzek 
Niewodniczanski

said:


Hello,

I try to track what does set these 2 variables?

QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2
QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk2

Is it something in Enlightenment?

yes :)

Can this be made user configurable, please?


Not easily, but you should be able to overwrite them. Out of interest 
what would you prefer them to be? As far as I know this is the only 
combo that actually works properly its also possible to get working with 
Qt6 apps.


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Re: [e-users] Has anyone tried using Pipewire with E16?

2023-02-19 Thread Simon Lees




On 2/19/23 17:34, Bradley Reed wrote:

I have a well working Slackware laptop that uses ALSA/PulseAudio for sound.
My install of E16 works fine in that setup. There is a lot of talk in the
Slackware forums about going to pipewire and I was curious if anyone was
currently using it with E16.

The main config changes appear to be disabling the pulseaudio autospawn and
loading three .desktop files:

/etc/xdg/autostart/pipewire.desktop
/etc/xdg/autostart/pipewire-pulse.desktop
/etc/xdg/autostart/pipewire-media-session.desktop (likely to be replaced by
wireplumber)

Is E16 able to use the .desktop files? Or would I have to migrate the
relevant commands into the $HOME/.e16/Init/init.sh script?


I'm sure I probably have used the two together at some point although 
generally I use a more modern version of Enlightenment. On most distro's 
both Pipewire and Wireplumber run as "systemd user services" so its 
likely that your changes will be atleast somewhat slackware specific.


Desktop files aren't executable on there own but you should be able to 
use xdg-open to run them as far as I can see e16 doesn't have a 
graphical way of executing autostart desktop files in the same way later 
versions of e does but maybe there is a special directory you can use.


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Re: [e-users] Does the selective apply of the Application Theme is possible?

2022-11-02 Thread Simon Lees

Hi

On 11/2/22 20:58, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

Hello,

I like the Application Theme and I use Plata Noir, but there are some
applications I want to exclude.

For example, I use seamonkey for sites that have problems with my
regular Vivaldi, but if I don't change the Application Theme to
something like Adwaita, the display is black and I can't read it.

I would be happy if I could selectively apply the Application Theme,
but is this possible?

Thanks in advance.


The application theme is just a standard GTK theme. I believe it is 
possible to exclude / make special cases with GTK themes but personally 
i've never tried so I don't 100% know how to do it other then that is 
the direction you should look in. E isn't doing anything more then 
setting the gtk theme and also setting KDE/Qt to use its gtk theme 
engine if available


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Re: [e-users] IBar miniview problem - DEBUG

2022-10-14 Thread Simon Lees

Hi,

I'll just confirm i've also seen this issue but id never figured out how 
to reproduce it as well as you've outlined here i'm also strugging to 
now reproduce it on the theme i'm using atm, (this might be because I 
have extra spacing around the icons in ibar.


On 10/14/22 04:21, Quelrond wrote:

After some debugging:

If in /src/modules/ibar/e_mod_main.c/

in function /_ibar_cb_icon_mouse_in/

I comment out the line 1513:

/_ibar_icon_signal_emit(ic, "e,state,focused", "e");/

everything works as expected (but I have no nice effect of active IBar 
icon).


So, probably in 'focused' state something goes wrong with icon menu...


Peter



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Subject: IBar miniview problem
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2022 11:40:25 +0200
From: Quelrond 
To: Enlightenment users discussion & support 





Hello,

Since update of EFL and Enlightenment to the last release versions (EFL 
1.26.3 and E 0.25.4) I have a problem of miniviews of IBar.


In previous versions the miniviews were shown on mouse over the 
application icon. Now there are application names only, miniviews are 
shown on mouse over a small region near the border of IBar, and only if 
the mouse pointer comes from inside of IBar.


I prepared a small screencast showing the problem:

https://www.flytrace.com/static/download/ibar-miniview-2022-10-13_11.19.52.mkv

It is possible that some other updates (Xorg, Nvidia driver, ...) are 
related to this problem, but I would like to get it working on current 
versions of the software & hardware ;)


I am on FreeBSD 12.3.

Any ideas?

Peter

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Re: [e-users] On iconization

2022-09-21 Thread Simon Lees




On 9/21/22 21:32, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

Hello,

Today, I reconstructed .e, and found the efm.

I thought the look & feel had changed, and proceeded to set it up.

But there is one thing I can't figure out.

In other words, I often iconize apps with the minimise button, and I
want to set them to appear on the left side of the iBar as before, but
I can't figure out how to do it.

Could someone inform me of how to do it?


I believe that was a feature of ibox rather then ibar, they are two 
separate gadgets that have somewhat similar behavior and a somewhat 
similar name just to confuse us all.


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Re: [e-users] xdg-open ignores mimeapps.list

2022-09-19 Thread Simon Lees



On 9/19/22 12:00, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

Hello,


I see.
But why would it call up a Windows app instead of a Linux native app?

BTW, I can't believe that someone with a career as yours doesn't
know about recoll.


I work full time for a linux distro, I also don't know about recoil.


Arch Linux itself provides the package

Now then, as a workaround, I did
 
# ln -s /usr/bin/kde-open /usr/bin/xdg-open

With this, recoll seems to be working fine!

I'm wondering if there are any problems with this workaround?


If it works for you then no, xdg-open is a very simple script which will 
detect if your running enlightenment and then call enlightenment-open, 
or will check if your running kde and will call kde-open in that case 
because generally this is whats available on your system.


The only thing you really have to worry about is if your package manager 
updates xdg-utils then it might remove the symlink.


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Re: [e-users] I might have found the solution to the black screen issue.

2022-08-05 Thread Simon Lees


On 8/5/22 10:48, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> In the Message; 
> 
>   Subject: Re: [e-users] I might have found the solution to the black 
> screen issue.
>   Message-ID : <31a55bfd-93a7-9124-8d5b-de2119c7f...@suse.de>
>   Date & Time: Thu, 4 Aug 2022 23:40:33 +0930
> 
> [SL] == Simon Lees  has written:
> 
> [...]
> SL>  Feel free to ask those questions here, I look after those and still keep
> SL>  an eye on this list.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> SL>  In terms of system.conf we were disabling some modules that aren't used
> SL>  on systemd systems to reduce the security footprint, but then we stopped
> SL>  having a "users" group on new systems so it had to be changed, openqa
> SL>  seems to be telling me this is working again  but if its not right let
> SL>  me know which repo so I can fix it.
> 
> Sorry, I didn't check enough.
> 
> As you know, system.conf included in the
> enlightenment-0.25.3-269.5.src.rpm, it is set as fllows;
> 
> [...]
> # deny everyone else by default
> user: * deny:  *
> 
> In response to this setting, the enlightenment complains that it
> should be changed to 'allow'.

This should be ok because atleast from
https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/X11:Enlightenment:Factory/enlightenment/system.conf?expand=1
the following is before it

user:*  allow: backlight
user:*  allow: ddc
user:*  allow: rfkill
user:*  allow: l2ping
user:*  allow: cpufreq

which means that all users have access to all the modules we actually need.

> SL>  Similarly at one point in some repos there was a bug where a wayland
> SL>  enlightenment.desktop file was being installed which gdm will pick over
> SL>  the X11 one, as far as I know this should be fixed, so that the default
> SL>  option with enlightenment.desktop is X11 but there is now an
> SL>  enlightenment-wayland.desktop file that is also installed which is
> SL>  labeled in gdm as experimental again if this was missed in a  repo
> SL>  please let me know where (its a 2 line fix).
> 
> Those I am referring to as the openSUSE build is located at;
> 
> https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Enlightenment:/Factory/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/
> 
> SL>  enlightenment-wayland.desktop file that is also installed which is
> SL>  labeled in gdm as experimental again [...]
> 
> It is as you say with sddm, too.
> 
> In gdm, I can log in by entering my password, but in sddm, two
> enlightenment items appear in the menu, and I have to select the lower
> one and enter my password before I can log in.
> 
> I don't understand why two enlightenment items appear when there is
> only one enlightenment.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions.

Can you please paste the output of "ls -la /usr/share/xsessions/" and ls
-la /usr/share/wayland-sessions/"
> 
> I have a basic question.
> 
> I can't figure out why Tumbleweed gives me
> 
>   %define enable_wayland 1
> 
> when it is written
> 
> # Wayland is broken with current efl waiting for a new e release
> 
> as the comments.
> 
> I have no intention to change to nouveau and I will not move to
> Wayland because of it. I think Wayland itself is just experimetal.
> 
> Or does Tumbleweed have the requirements for enable_wayland?

Yeah basically if you use gdm, and choose "Enlightenment" which comes
from /usr/share/xsessions you will get enlightenment and everything will
run fine, if you choose Enlightenment - Wayland (Experemental) or
whatever I called it you can test out wayland that one should live in
/usr/share/wayland-sessions/. Last time I tried sddm it ignored wayland
so I've never tested it there but I can confirm with an intel gpu and
gdm it works.

Raster said there has been some issues with Nvidia and efl in gles mode
if your seeing these issues at some point i'll i'll probably have to
build a separate efl package using traditional opengl for nvidia, this
is basically just work I haven't found time for yet.

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Re: [e-users] I might have found the solution to the black screen issue.

2022-08-04 Thread Simon Lees



On 8/4/22 14:04, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> In the Message; 
> 
>   Subject: Re: [e-users] I might have found the solution to the black 
> screen issue.
>   Message-ID : <20220803153042.0afbd724fe67ca3caa6cf...@rasterman.com>
>   Date & Time: Wed, 3 Aug 2022 15:30:42 +0100
> 
> [CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:
> 
> CH>  On Wed, 03 Aug 2022 22:49:20 +0900 Masaru Nomiya 
>  said:
> 
> [...]
> MN> > Xorg server crashed?
> 
> CH>  that's what it looks like. X I/O fatal error is e's x connection being 
> killed
> CH>  off. that is most likely because the Xserver crashed. check your X logs. 
> it
> CH>  might bein the Xorg.0.log.old - also double check Xorg.1.log - maybe your
> CH>  display manager runs 2 xservers. i have seen this with gdm these days i 
> think,
> CH>  so display is :1 not :0.
> 
> 
> MN> > --- enlightenment.desktop.orig 2022-08-03 10:28:09.525158438 +0900
> MN> > +++ enlightenment.desktop 2022-08-03 10:28:35.249074546 +0900
> MN> > @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
> MN> >  [Desktop Entry] -Type=Application
> MN> > -Type=Application
> MN> > +Type=XSession
> MN> >  Name=Enlightenment
> MN> >  Name[ca]=Enlightenment
> MN> >  Name[de]=Enlightenment
> MN> >  Name[de]=Enlightenment
>  
> MN>  > So far, this seems to have solved the black screen problem.
> 
> CH>  WTF? That has never been a requirement. Type=Application has
> CH>  always worked and no one has every defined that it MUST be of
> CH>  Type=XSession ...
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> You gave me a big hint.
> 
> Come to think of it, my problem started when I moved to opensuse
> Tumbleweed and started using efl & enlightenment in the openSUSE build.
> 
> So I downloaded the enlightenment-0.25.3-269.5.src.rpm from the
> openSUSE site, built & installed, then shutdown & rebooted many times,
> no problem. Of course, I did not rewrite the "enlightenment.desktop"
> file.
> 
> To my surprise, the file contents are different.
> 
> For example, when I install an openSUSE build, enlightenment asks me
> to change the system.conf, but the one I built at hand has a
> system.conf that matches enlightenment's requirements. (_ _?
> 
> Anyway, there are some questions about the wayland handling in the
> openSUSE built, so I built and installed efl and enlightenment without
> wayland, and they works fine for me now.

Feel free to ask those questions here, I look after those and still keep
an eye on this list.

In terms of system.conf we were disabling some modules that aren't used
on systemd systems to reduce the security footprint, but then we stopped
having a "users" group on new systems so it had to be changed, openqa
seems to be telling me this is working again  but if its not right let
me know which repo so I can fix it.

Similarly at one point in some repos there was a bug where a wayland
enlightenment.desktop file was being installed which gdm will pick over
the X11 one, as far as I know this should be fixed, so that the default
option with enlightenment.desktop is X11 but there is now an
enlightenment-wayland.desktop file that is also installed which is
labeled in gdm as experimental again if this was missed in a  repo
please let me know where (its a 2 line fix).

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Re: [e-users] Massive log file (Was: Re: How to deter from generaring the log file)

2022-07-27 Thread Simon Lees
Hi

On 7/24/22 16:40, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jul 2022 10:06:28 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  
> said:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm so sorry for the very late reply.
>>
>> I was working on a solution for the black screen problem that was
>> occurring close to 100% of the time after logging in.
>>
>> This has led me to several problems with the current system.
>>
>> As it turns out, the black scrren problem was caused by the
>> enlightenment package in the opensuse built installing
>> enlightenment.desktop for wayland.
>>
>> I can't understand why they are making it for wayland. 
> 
> it supports doing it. it is experimental.

Yes atleast in the main repos it should be there but labeled as
experimental and the standard .desktop file should start X11, this was
broken for a while in one of the devel projects but i'm pretty sure I
fixed it so if you still see this please let me know which repo your
installing e from and which display manager you are using.

>> In the Message; 
>>
>>   Subject: Re: [e-users] Massive log file (Was: Re: How to deter from
>> generaring the log file) Message-ID :
>> <20220719083050.b494977e0c379f2abb21b...@rasterman.com> Date & Time: Tue, 19
>> Jul 2022 08:30:50 +0100
>>
>> [CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:
>>
>> CH>  On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 21:02:04 +0900 Masaru Nomiya
>> CH>  said:
>>
>> CH>  Holy crap... you have enabled efl debugging. eina debug levels
>> CH>  are set to show all debug messages... that will be a LOT. it's
>> CH>  for debugging. you probably have set the EINA_LOG_LEVEL
>> CH>  environment variable and to some high level like 4.
>>
>> I noticed this during the work.
>> I don't remember when or why I set it up.
>>
>> CH>  remove that environment variable or set it to 1 or lower. like
>>
>> CH>  export EINA_LOG_LEVEL=1
>>
>> I've removed the setteing in the .bashrc.
>>
>> CH> check your environment variable. the other option is someone added
>> CH> -DDEBUG or something to CFLAGS when building efl and thus turned
>> CH> on debug mode by default in the source... but what you have is efl
>> CH> in debug mode and this will make efl rather a lot slower as it
>> CH> dumps debug for almost anything it does and will fill up logs.
>>
>> I have debug built efl before, and I have the notes for it.
>> But, I can't remember why I did the debug build, again.
>>
>> Sorry for the trouble.
> 
> No problems. but that was your problem. it would have also made e and efl
> slower too.  :)
> 
>> Regards.
>>
>> ---
>> ┏━━┓彡  Masaru Nomiya mail-to: nomiya @ galaxy.dti.ne.jp
>> ┃\/彡
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>> middle class, but its value has received increasing scrutiny.
>> In the last several years, rising tuition and student loan debt
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[e-users] New theme "Dimensions"

2022-05-16 Thread Simon Lees
Hi All,

Today I released a new theme "Dimensions" this theme has two main goals.
The first is to allow you to have a consistent look between
Enlightenment and Gtk / Qt apps, to that extent it was designed around
and based on the Vertex GTK theme https://www.pling.com/p/1013757/ so if
you use it with the Dark Vertex theme you'll get a unified look across
your whole desktop.

The second goal is to make a theme that's easy to modify and create new
themes from with just by changing some images and a couple of other
files, but there will be more on that soon.

Screenshots and Downloads at: https://www.opendesktop.org/p/1795915/
Also an openSUSE Version at: https://www.opendesktop.org/p/1795917/

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Re: [e-users] How to turn of the ACPI warning at startup

2022-04-01 Thread Simon Lees



On 3/26/22 03:04, Ross Vandegrift wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 10:34:49PM +1030, Simon Lees wrote:
>> The issue is more the major desktops are no longer using it so distro's
>> are no longer starting the service by default even if its installed.
> 
> Weird.  IMO, not enabling the daemon if it's installed is a bug.  But
> that's colored by Debian's usual behavior, which is to start & enable
> any installed daemon by default.  I understand RedHat & family differ on
> this point.

Yeah openSUSE has a policy of admin must choose to enable services once
installed for most services. There are some with an exception that go
into one distro wide "whitelist" and they are auto enabled after
install. When other desktops swiched to using upower instead of acpid
the decision was made to no longer enable it by default.

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Re: [e-users] How to turn of the ACPI warning at startup

2022-03-25 Thread Simon Lees



On 3/25/22 11:23, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 17:09:19 -0700 Ross Vandegrift  said:
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 10:34:17AM +1030, Simon Lees wrote:
>>> On 3/25/22 09:14, eric wrote:
>>>> I have enlightenment 25.3 running on an Arch linux virtualbox virtual
>>>> machine. Is it possible to turn off the ACPI Error warning that pops up
>>>> everytime enlightenment is started. I don't think I need the acpid
>>>> service running on the virtual machine.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for any help.
>>>
>>> I'm also looking at this for openSUSE and if we even still need it for
>>> systems with upower as it seems we only have it for battery related
>>> stuff but I need to find time to look at the code in more detail unless
>>> someone else remembers.
>>
>> It used to be required for handling acpi events - i.e. the bindings in
>> Settings -> Input -> ACPI bindings.
> 
> and it still is. nothing has changed there. acpid is a tiny daemon just 
> run
> it. :)

The issue is more the major desktops are no longer using it so distro's
are no longer starting the service by default even if its installed. At
some point i'll write a patch that checks if the systemd service is
present and if so change the error message to ask users to enable the
service.

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Re: [e-users] How to turn of the ACPI warning at startup

2022-03-24 Thread Simon Lees



On 3/25/22 09:14, eric wrote:
> Hello all.
> 
> I have enlightenment 25.3 running on an Arch linux virtualbox virtual
> machine. Is it possible to turn off the ACPI Error warning that pops up
> everytime enlightenment is started. I don't think I need the acpid
> service running on the virtual machine.
> 
> Thank you for any help.

I'm also looking at this for openSUSE and if we even still need it for
systems with upower as it seems we only have it for battery related
stuff but I need to find time to look at the code in more detail unless
someone else remembers.

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[e-users] New old Themes for Enlightenment and Terminology (Dark + More)

2022-02-20 Thread Simon Lees
Evening all,

Given the number of themes that i've made based off the dark theme i've
decided to keep maintaining and releasing it. As such i've gone through
the flat theme and taken all the new features and fixes and then ported
them to dark to bring it up to date, this process especially the icons
took alot longer then I thought hence not having this ready on release day.

Along with Dark i'm also releasing the following 3 themes that i've been
working on for some time.

*Ice:* This is what happens when you take the Dark theme and make it
substantially lighter although currently it uses a darker wallpaper for
contrast.

*Neonz:* Personally I never found the dark theme quite dark enough so I
set about creating this theme, it was the first custom theme I ever
worked on, then for reasons at a later date I decided to give it a
bright white wallpaper which you can change (Finding wallpapers with an
open source license so I can ship them is hard).

*openSUSE-e-Oliveleaf:* This theme started out life as The default theme
for openSUSE 13.1but it has continued to be quite popular so I thought
I’d release it here as well you’ll just have to live with a bit of
openSUSE branding should you choose to use it.

All of these themes also include Terminology themes and colorschemes as
well as a matching FDO icon theme.

You can read more and see screenshots by visiting my Blog:
https://simotek.net/tech/projects/linux-themes/e25-theme-updates/

You can find Downloads and instructions:
https://github.com/simotek/Enlightenment-Themes/releases/tag/20220219.1.26

The source code is here https://github.com/simotek/Enlightenment-Themes/
with each theme being in a branch with its name.

I also have a new completely different theme in the works that will be
ready soon, and i'm working on a theme "Engine" to make it easy to
create new themes by changing images.

Finally Someone can feel free to add any of these to extra.e.org (I
forgot who did it last time).



Download:
https://github.com/simotek/Enlightenment-Themes/releases/tag/20220219.1.26

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Re: [e-users] Problem with ibar 0.25.3

2022-02-20 Thread Simon Lees
Also to clarify i've seen this issue for a while in e-git so I suspect
its not really new (somewhere between e24 and e25) but people on
releases are probably only picking it up now.

On 2/20/22 12:11, Simon Lees wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/18/22 17:37, Davide Andreoli wrote:
>> I found that with software rendering the issue goes away, so it's something
>> related to the GL backend
>> ...and yes, sadly I'm using nvidia drivers :(
> 
> As an additional test point i'm on a hybrid setup with the nvidia card
> disabled which should mean intel driver, software compositing doesn't
> like my setup so i'm a bit stuck atm.
> 
> 
>> Il giorno gio 17 feb 2022 alle ore 19:05 Pierre Couderc via
>> enlightenment-users  ha scritto:
>>
>>>
>>> On 2/17/22 08:55, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote:
>>>> When I did hoover over an icon of an ibar, for example the icon of
>>>> terminology, I got the list of all terminology windows and I could
>>>> click in it to select it. Now this list has disappeared even if it
>>>> appears some (very ) rare times !
>>>>
>>>> What do I miss ? am I alone with this problem ?
>>>>
>>> See more here :   https://www.tolsupport.fr/download/tmp.jpg
>>>
>>> The cursor is over the terminology icon, which is blinking.
>>>
>>> I expect the list of open terminology windows in order to be able to
>>> click in ...
> 

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Re: [e-users] Problem with ibar 0.25.3

2022-02-19 Thread Simon Lees



On 2/18/22 17:37, Davide Andreoli wrote:
> I found that with software rendering the issue goes away, so it's something
> related to the GL backend
> ...and yes, sadly I'm using nvidia drivers :(

As an additional test point i'm on a hybrid setup with the nvidia card
disabled which should mean intel driver, software compositing doesn't
like my setup so i'm a bit stuck atm.


> Il giorno gio 17 feb 2022 alle ore 19:05 Pierre Couderc via
> enlightenment-users  ha scritto:
> 
>>
>> On 2/17/22 08:55, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote:
>>> When I did hoover over an icon of an ibar, for example the icon of
>>> terminology, I got the list of all terminology windows and I could
>>> click in it to select it. Now this list has disappeared even if it
>>> appears some (very ) rare times !
>>>
>>> What do I miss ? am I alone with this problem ?
>>>
>> See more here :   https://www.tolsupport.fr/download/tmp.jpg
>>
>> The cursor is over the terminology icon, which is blinking.
>>
>> I expect the list of open terminology windows in order to be able to
>> click in ...

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Re: [e-users] Problem with ibar 0.25.3

2022-02-17 Thread Simon Lees



On 2/17/22 18:25, Pierre Couderc via enlightenment-users wrote:
> When I did hoover over an icon of an ibar, for example the icon of
> terminology, I got the list of all terminology windows and I could click
> in it to select it. Now this list has disappeared even if it appears
> some (very ) rare times !
> 
> What do I miss ? am I alone with this problem ?

I also see this sometimes but not always, I am yet to figure out how to
trigger it. It often happens with tasks as well.

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Re: [e-users] How can I get system sounds?

2021-08-11 Thread Simon Lees



On 6/26/21 2:57 PM, Masaru Nomiya wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm usung git efl/enlightenment on these environments;
> 
> 1. OS : openSUSE Leap 15.3 RC (x86_64)
> 
> 2. kernel : 5.12.13-1.1-default
> 
> 3. Sound Card : Device [D & M Holdings Inc. HD-DAC1] on
> usb-:00:14.0-9/input2
> 
> 4. sound driver : usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
> 
> 5. Alsa : alsa-1.2.5.1-lp153.350.1.x86_64
> 
> 6. pulseaudio : pulseaudio-14.99.2-lp153.53.5.x86_64
> 
> 7. compilation options of efl :
> 
>meson \
>-Dphysics=true \
>-Devas-loaders-disabler=pdf,webp \
>-Dharfbuzz=true \
>-Dxinput22=true \
>-Demotion-loaders-disabler=gstreamer,gstreamer1,libvlc \
>-Dsystemd=true \
>-Dfb=true \
>-Ddrm=true \
>-Dwl=true \
>-Dopengl=es-egl \
>-Daudio=true \
>-Dedje-sound-and-video=true \
>-Dpulseaudio=true \
>-Dv4l2=true \
>-Dbuild-examples=true \
>-Dbuild-tests=true
> 
>PS. I've already installed xine-lib 1.2.11.
> 
> With this, I chacked
> 
> 1. Emixer
> 
>   ? 1. playback panel displays nothing.
> 
> 2. enlightenmet_config
> 
>   ? 2. Audio panel diplays only mute buttons.
> 
> Nevertheless, I can't get system sounds at all.
> 
> What's wrong with me, I wonder  (_ _?
> 
> Any other Tips?
> 
> Thanks.

I use e and efl from git based off here
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/X11:Enlightenment:Nightly and
everything works fine, I can even send some audio to my laptop speakers
and other apps to my dock if I feel like it.

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Re: [e-users] Display Manager for E24

2020-12-23 Thread Simon Lees



On 12/24/20 6:52 AM, Thiago Maciel wrote:
> Quick question,
> Is Entrance (https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/entrance) still the
> recommended DM for E24?
> 
> If so, apart from being written in EFL, is there any other reason to prefer
> entrance over other systemd friendly DM, e.g., LightDM?
> 
> Thanks in advance,

If your using X11 id recommend lightdm, if your using wayland i'd
recommend gdm.

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Re: [e-users] Menus Transluscent

2020-11-08 Thread Simon Lees


On 11/6/20 9:54 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 17:45:47 +0100 (CET) Drew Dangerfield via
> enlightenment-users  said:
> 
>> efl-git-1.25.99.xxx and enlightenment-git-0.24.99..xxx installed
>>
>> I can't find how to make the menu backgrounds translucent.  I found that
>> control for ibar but I can't find it for menus.
> 
> it's controlled by the theme. make a theme that uses transparent backgrounds
> for menus... :)
> 

The theme in this branch (branch is important) has transparent menu's
its probably also incomplete and may or may not build it may also over
abuse blur filters and have performance issues, I don't remember if I
left that on.

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Re: [e-users] Decreased minimum needed meson version to 0.50, report problems if you hit them

2020-06-12 Thread Simon Lees



On 6/12/20 5:14 PM, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> Subject almost says it all. I decreased the version to allow for
> building with widely available versions.
> 
> We had problems with 0.47 before so I wanted to be proactive about this
> and ask to report problems quickly if you have trouble building with
> meson 0.50 or 0.51.

0.53 is the oldest we care about in openSUSE for the next year or maybe two.

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Re: [e-users] hot plugging a 2nd screen and keeping window positions

2020-06-01 Thread Simon Lees



On 6/2/20 2:46 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> I took my older thinkpad, with a somewhat older E and older debian and
> sysvinit 9no systemd), and I made it a desktop machine.
> i installed the nvidia driver on it, because I don't care about battery
> use anymore.
> 
> I have the screen setup as secondary (4K panel, 4K screen).
> When the screen turns off, E takes all the windows and puts them on the
> first screen, which is understandable.
> When the screen turns back on, it doesn't move the windows back, so I
> have to move them all one by one every time.
> 
> Does newer E deal with this better and auto save/restore positions on
> secondary screens with the nvidia driver? (I noticed that the driver
> does not cause E to popup its secondary screen setup which does pop up
> if I use the i915 driver, so E may not deal with those screen
> add/removes the same way)

Newer e doesn't do this better, would be nice if it did I also have this
issue alot.

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Re: [e-users] Getting a "just right" font from gnome-terminal (making the font more narrow)

2020-05-17 Thread Simon Lees



On 5/2/20 11:57 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 02:48:29PM +0100, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> terminology will only offer 12 or 13. evas only offers integer font size. if
>> its a fractional size that by luck happens to have something round up/down to
>> just the size you want - it's by luck, but that's just not supported. the
>> entire evas font engine plumbing takes integer font sizes only and that's not
>> going to change. You can try other mono fonts. I spent white a while looking
>> for mono fonts that behave well and hint well and size just how I like.
>  
> Understood. To be honest, I think it's a bit crazy that I had to know to
> use an fractional font size to get the font I wanted. I did spend
> several hours looking at other fonts 1 by 1 (including your nice
> terminus font which would have been awesome on my older screens with
> higher DPI).
> But my screen is apparently 285 DPI, I'm already using it as a 100 DPI
> to get more stuff on it, even if it's small, but I can't really go
> smaller than that, even with my eagle eyes :)
> 
>> nexus (bitmap 6x10 thus no scaling) <- clearest
>> Hack (Bold) @ 8
>> Source Code Pro (Bold) @ 10 
>  
> Oooh new fonts still, thanks, I'll have a look at them, much
> appreciated.

I'd add office code pro to the list of worth checking out
https://github.com/nathco/Office-Code-Pro

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Re: [e-users] A couple more translation questions for E24

2020-05-08 Thread Simon Lees



On 5/8/20 8:57 PM, aguador wrote:
> OK, let's see if I can do better this time. Peter was right that my
> translation-related question about tags was badly phrased! The only
> save is that as least we (?) learned something in the process.
> 
> So, trying again . . .
> 
> First a question about this string:
> 
> #: src/modules/bluez5/e_mod_popup.c:571
> msgid "Stop this from being an unlock device"
> 
> I would take this to mean, literally, that "this device" is being
> stopped from unlocking others. Should the word in the string be
> "unlocked" device instead?
> 
> Second, a reminder of something perhaps already done: in the file I was
> working with the copyright date had not yet been bumped up to 2020.
> 
> Third, I apologize for raising something so minor, but my attention was
> drawn to it when I looked at the dialog about organizing windows:
> 
> #:
> src/modules/conf_window_manipulation/e_int_config_clientlist.c:117
> #:
> src/modules/conf_window_manipulation/e_int_config_clientlist.c:130
> [and 12 other strings]
> msgid "None"
> 
> "None" is the first in a lists headed with "Group By" (117) and
> "Separate By" (130). While "none" reflects the variable names, from a
> strictly user/language perspective, this would be better as "Nothing"
> (a msgid that already exists in another module).

Nothing is probably technically correct but we use "None" in some other
places as well, such as in the screen setup dialog where we have "None"
"Clone" "Left of"... so maybe its best to keep it for consistency with
elsewhere (or fix the other cases as well)

> OK, feeling thoroughly embarrassed for having raised something so
> minor, I will shut up!

Getting all the minor tiny things right is how you end up with
consistent well polished user interfaces so raising them is a good thing :-)

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Re: [e-users] E 0.23.1-5 (deb) systemd upgrade

2020-04-27 Thread Simon Lees



On 4/27/20 2:56 PM, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 07:38:06PM -0700, Ross Vandegrift wrote:
>> what is a gadget systray? systray presents a gadget for gadcon (gadget
>> controller) to request/position etc. ... ? gadcons can be in shelves - they 
>> can
>> also be placed on the desktop... you could also have a systray on the desktop
>> gadcon... ?
>  
> That was the problem, yes. It's a bit surprising that it let me launch
> two when clearly that's not supported.
> 

If you copied configs its possible that you previously had the module
disabled and its now enabled hence seeing it again.


> 
>>> This is really what I miss the most with E, and doesn't work in my older
>>> E either (0.21.11-1), I'm missing all those nice systray-like icons and
>>> status.
>>
>> again as per a previous mail - e from git has this fixed. as 0.24 is around 
>> the
>> corner after this elf 1.24 release ... don't expect any fixes for 0.23, so 
>> try
>> efl + e from git and report issues BEFORE a release so it's working in the
>> release. :) compiling from git is the exact same method as from a tarball. 
>> zero
>> difference.
> 
> ok, I missed that.
> So systray in E 23 is broke and won't get fixed, but it'll work in 0.24.
> 

Yes a large number of bugs were fixed here resiliently

> xfe/cinnamon: nm-applet, wicd, bluez, google-chrome-beta show up in the 
> status bar
> E 23: nm-applet, wicd, bluez do not show up in E's systray, but they
> show up in stalonetray. Interestingly google-chrome does go in E's
> systray.
> The part I'm confused about is: you told me years ago that x-embbed is
> dead due to its design and that's why you stopped supporting it. But now
> it's years later, and all 3 of nm-applet + wicd + bluez still only go in
> stalonetray. How can I know if it's because they are still relying on
> x-embbed, or if it's because of the systray E bug that's apparently been
> in 0.21, 0.22, and 0.23, that you just alluded to?

nm-applet works if it is built with support for appindicator, I have
been using it with systray on enlightenment for years "meson  build
-Dwith-appindicator=yes" If you have that working you shouldn't need
wicd, for bluetooth i'd try e's inbuilt module I know others use it fine.

Currently I have systray icons working for Barrier (Synergy
Replacement), Discord, Microsoft Teams, Rocket Chat, Variety and
nm-applet. I also have hexchat but only because I just added support and
didn't upstream it yet. I know Pigeon and Steam also work as do most KDE
apps that would logically have a tray icon.


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Re: [e-users] appindicator (was Re: competitors to E?)

2020-04-20 Thread Simon Lees



On 4/21/20 1:23 AM, Conrad Knight wrote:
> From: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) 
>> everyone has or is on the way to dropping xmbed - so if youw ant xmbed .. you
>> need something like stanlonetray. e supports app indicator protocol. it's a
>> dbus protocol instead of x windows reparented.
> 
> On this subject... I'm having trouble with E's appindicator with
> certain programs, dropbox is the most recent example. When i run
> dropbox (from the command line instead of auto-start at login, so i
> can see the output), the following warning is displayed:
> 
> (dropbox:13514): libappindicator-WARNING **: 11:21:34.670: Unable to
> connect to the Notification Watcher:
> GDBus.Error:org.kde.StatusNotifierWatcher.Item.AlreadyRegistered:
> 
> The icon that shows in E's systray is not the usual dropbox icon that
> displays if i use a different wm (Ubuntu's default gnome, for
> example). It shows a generic warning triangle instead. Dropbox also
> displays an xembed icon, i assume for backwards compatibility
> purposes. If i run stalonetray, the extra tray opens and displays the
> correct dropbox icon.

I hit this issue with Discord, and now Microsoft Teams, it hasn't quite
got to the top of my debugging list yet, but other things like nm-applet
(when built right) and Qt apps such as barrier (synergy replacement)
work fine.

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Re: [e-users] Looking for old screenshots + New Beta Themes

2020-02-17 Thread Simon Lees
Hi

On 1/7/20 6:47 PM, Francesc Guasch wrote:
> On 1/1/20 12:07, Simon Lees wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> This year at linux.conf.au creative arts minconf I am giving a talk on
>> designing user interfaces that focus more on being works of art then
>> being usable. As part of that i'm looking for some old enlightenment
>> screenshots of themes (going right back to e16) that you think might fit
>> this category.
>>
>> Secondly I have a couple of themes i've been working on that are in a
>> alpha / beta state and are ready for other people to have a play with,
>> both are useable enough with nothing too out of place for the things I
>> use and are ready for others to play with and tell me what to fix.
>>
>> The first is "Vertex" its based off the vertex gtk theme [1]. It will
>> match up pretty well with the darker theme (A light theme will be
>> possible when I get to it). I'm especially interested in feedback on
>> what needs work here because I'll likely use it as the basis for several
>> other themes. The second is "Cerium2" which is a port of Tome Haste's
>> original Cerium theme.
>>
>> Building and installing the themes is 3 simple steps:
>>
> Hey. I tried the theme. But building it returns a tone of errors.
> I just pasted here a few:
> 
> https://pastebin.com/ab03xq1F
> 
> A Vertex theme got installed in my personal folder but I am not
> sure it is properly built. I have two barely readable issues:
> 
> - Title window icons are black on dark
> - ALT-TAB is white text on light gray
> 
> May be I need some other tool to build the theme but I just can't
> see it clearly from the building warnings.
> 
> The other theme won't get built. I am willing to give it a try
> anyway if I get some hints to sort out the errors.
> 
> https://pastebin.com/NgZCZQ7D

Apparently I missed this due to conferences etc, but the Alt+Tab is the
kind of report I was looking for I never use it so I never noticed that
It hasn't been rethemed so it now has a bug report[1]

I also cleaned up a bunch of the error reporting so it should be much
cleaner again so maybe try and pull the latest and see where you end up
and we can work from there. Currently both those themes are building
fine for me.

Cheers


1. https://github.com/simotek/Enlightenment-Themes/issues/9

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[e-users] Looking for old screenshots + New Beta Themes

2020-01-01 Thread Simon Lees
Hi All,

This year at linux.conf.au creative arts minconf I am giving a talk on
designing user interfaces that focus more on being works of art then
being usable. As part of that i'm looking for some old enlightenment
screenshots of themes (going right back to e16) that you think might fit
this category.

Secondly I have a couple of themes i've been working on that are in a
alpha / beta state and are ready for other people to have a play with,
both are useable enough with nothing too out of place for the things I
use and are ready for others to play with and tell me what to fix.

The first is "Vertex" its based off the vertex gtk theme [1]. It will
match up pretty well with the darker theme (A light theme will be
possible when I get to it). I'm especially interested in feedback on
what needs work here because I'll likely use it as the basis for several
other themes. The second is "Cerium2" which is a port of Tome Haste's
original Cerium theme.

Building and installing the themes is 3 simple steps:

git clone https://github.com/simotek/Enlightenment-Themes/

git checkout [theme name]

./build-darkmod.sh

Replace [theme name] with Vertex or Cerium2

The theme will now be installed in your personal theme directory and
will come up in the "Personal" section of the theme selector.


The more adventurous might like to check out some less complete themes
by using anti-transient-color, transient-color or Transient as the theme
name (note the last 2 can eat alot of CPU).

Alternatively if you just want to try the default e theme but darker or
much lighter use "Extra-Dark-Green" or "ice" as the theme name.

Feel free to report any issues in github and email me if you have any
questions.


1. https://github.com/horst3180/vertex-theme

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Re: [e-users] Colors

2019-11-21 Thread Simon Lees



On 11/21/19 8:43 AM, john wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 22:54:42 +
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 21:33:52 + john  said:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Is there a way to change the colors of the panel, windows and menu
>>> through command line in version .23
>>>
>>> I would like to change the default color of everything from black to
>>> some other color.
>>>
>>> Thanks   
>>
>> you change the look of things by changing the theme. the theme is an
>> edj file (edje) and is basically an archive file containing this
>> data. read up on edje, edje_cc, edje_decc etc. :)
>>
> 
> Thank for the advice.
> 
> I've copied default theme with edje_decc and adjusted the colors.
> 
> yippee, I have a green panel.


I also have the following scripts that you can use to significantly
recolor parts of the theme without much effort
https://github.com/simotek/Enlightenment-Themes/



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Re: [e-users] "check" missing when trying to build efl

2019-07-15 Thread Simon Lees



On 15/07/2019 14:47, Pierre Couderc wrote:


On 7/15/19 7:10 AM, Vincent Torri wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 7:02 AM Pierre Couderc  wrote:


On 7/14/19 11:57 PM, Jérémy Zurcher wrote:

Hi,

On Sunday 14 July 2019  23:32, Pierre Couderc wrote :

Using

meson -Dwl=true ..

I get a  missing dependency named "check"


Please give me light about this mysterious  "check". For example 
how to get

it on debian buster...

https://libcheck.github.io/check/
Check is a unit testing framework for C.

maybe -Dbuild-tests=false solves that missing dependency



Thank  you very much, sure I do not need to build the tests...

and the examples ?
Sure.
And the exemples. So my next question. Are


Sure. And the exemples. So my next question : are


|-Dopengl=es-egl -Dxinput22=true -Dbuffer=false -Dfb=true -Ddrm=true 
-Dtslib=false -Dharfbuzz=true -Dwl=true -Dnetwork-backend=connman 
-Devas-loaders-disabler=json -Dbindings= -Dbuild-examples=false 
-Dbuild-tests=false -Decore-imf-loaders-disabler= a good set of options 
for a "basic" user ? |


For a basic user passing no options should give the best result, 
although as we've figured out you might want to disable tests.


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Re: [e-users] enlightenment "freezing" when opening a new window... sometimes

2018-12-16 Thread Simon Lees
 me vblank events". oddly your pointer updates so...
> some animator is ticking somewhere i think. perhaps e stops getting vsync
> events for some reason (or some hiccup stops it from requesting them as this 
> is
> turned on and off on the fly depending on animation needs so we don't tick 
> over
> unnecessarily when everything is idle). so there is a possibility there is
> something over there causing it. let's explore this path if the swapbuffers 
> are
> not being called. if they are then... unfortunately we've found a bug in your
> driver stack. :( yes - i know.they are the only changes you made thus you go
> "bug must be there". you are only looking at one dimension in that case. the
> other dimensions are the stack and who is responsible for what. changes we 
> made
> may have now changed code paths in the driver and now triggered that bug 9it
> could be us asking for vsync events at the same time as rendering and now with
> rendering being more "synchronised" it's finding some race condition in the
> driver). but again - this all depends if the swapbuffers is being called as i
> indicated. you can set a breakpoint for it too: b glXSwapBuffers
> 
> so have a look in that direction. if you need more details, please ask. i'm
> kind of hand-wavy pointing in the direction of what i would do. the only place
> i ever saw this was on my laptop... and every time it happened... i was not in
> any position to use a network to ssh in... :)
> 

I'm pretty sure there was a phab issue for this but I can't find it I
can replicate it 100% by going Main -> Applications -> [Some other menu]
and messing around.

The issue seems to be Mesa related, I can replicate it under Mesa 18.1.7
but not 18.0.2 if that helps. I haven't had time to look at it further,
but now things are getting quieter I can probably provide more, I hit it
everytime on my laptop.

When the issue occurs you can restart E from a keybinding and it will go
back to normal.

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment memory leaks?

2018-09-23 Thread Simon Lees



On 20/09/2018 22:02, leoutat...@gmx.fr wrote:
> Hi
> When starting *wayland* session, enlightenment eats about 130M.
> After 4 hours running, e eats huge memory:
> htop
> enlightenment resident memory 3222M
> After restarting e, it's ok, about 100M
> Is it normal or is it a bug?
> system:
> Arch, Aur efl-git + enlightenment-git
> 
> Thanks

For a bit more info, whats the memory usage after 10 minutes and after
8-12 hrs, it is likely that as you run more programs e needs to use more
memory, so having a couple more data points would be useful.

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Re: [e-users] $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE both set to gtk2

2018-09-23 Thread Simon Lees



On 18/09/2018 23:59, Mick wrote:
> On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 11:27:35 BST sergio wrote:
>> On 18/09/2018 11:31, Mick wrote:
>>> Where are QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME and QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE specified outside the
>>> GUI?  In ~/.bashrc?  Where could they be set for system wide settings?
>>
>> QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE is not specified.
>>
>> QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME is from /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99qt5ct, which rewrites
>> nothing, and just adds:
> 
> OK, this file is not installed in gentoo.
> 
>> moreover, there is ~/.xsession for user settings
> 
> I tried unsetting $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE in ~.xsession, but I still got gtk2.  
> Then, set it to a blank value using e's Settings/Advanced/Environment 
> Variables and this time it took.  However, I'm still no closer to having KDE 
> applications launching with QT themes and icons, unless I launch them from 
> within urxvt.
> 
Setting it from enlightenment's environment variable section should
work, the way its implemented at the moment is the least worst way we
could come up with to not have all users Qt apps broken by default.

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Re: [e-users] $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE both set to gtk2

2018-09-17 Thread Simon Lees



On 18/09/2018 04:08, sergio wrote:
> 
> My e config is minimal. A few modules are loaded. Nothing in Settings ->
> Advanced -> Environment Variables. Also I've inspected configs with vieet.
> 
> enlightenment start from ~/.xsession with enlightenment_start
> 
> If I replace enlightenment_start with xterm $QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE is not
> set and $QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME is qt5ct. But just soon as I run
> enlightenment_start it set both variables to gtk2
> 
> 
This was intentional, with nothing set when running Qt apps, Qt didn't
know which engine to use so it was falling back to a very basic one
which didn't load icons etc. GTK2 was chosen over KDE because at the
time the gtk2 engine was installed with all Qt installs and
enlightenment's dialog to set the "Application Theme" sets the GTK
theme, and so with this was also applying to Qt applications.

Since then much has changed so if someone wants to test and suggest a
new default that will work better out of the box that would be great.
qt5ct probably isn't an acceptable default as its generally not
installed by default on distro's

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Re: [e-users] System Tray

2018-09-08 Thread Simon Lees



On 08/09/2018 01:52, Roy Reese wrote:
>> Enviar: lunes 6 de agosto de 2018 a las 11:05
>> De: "yurwpjt via enlightenment-users" 
>> 
>> Para: "enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net" 
>> 
>> CC: yurwpjt 
>> Asunto: [e-users] System Tray
>>
>> Is there any way to use default enlightenment system tray? Or how can i use 
>> stalonetray on enlightenment shelf?
>>
>>
> I am just catching up with mailing lists, but this is an unanswered question 
> I have raised in the past given that E dropped support for Xembed back in 
> E20. AFAIK there is no way to get stalonetray on a shelf. I have it running 
> for a couple of applications in the upper left corner of the screen where it 
> does not bother anything.
> 
> However, that solution does not solve the problem for applications which have 
> shifted to appindicator notifications, such as the update notifications in my 
> current distro (Mageia). So to rephrase the question for the list regarding 
> the use of the E system tray in X, let me try with a two-part question:
> 
> 1) Does the E systray support appindicator notifications X?
> 

Yes, but you might need to enable the systray module and add the gadget
to your shelf.

> 2) a. If so, what packages apart from application-specific indicators are 
> needed to implement it properly?
> 
If your distro is set up correctly you shouldn't need anything it should
just work, last time I checked some distro's weren't carrying all the
patches required for atleast Qt4 apps.

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment Display Manager

2018-06-19 Thread Simon Lees



On 20/06/18 02:40, neena reddy wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What display manager does enlightenment use ?
> I am trying to build enlightenment on wayland using yocto but the image
> doesn't boot up.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Neena

Enlightenment doesn't have its own Display Manager, I normally use
lightdm with X11, I have got e+wayland to work with gdm, but had some
xwayland issues, you can also run without a display manager which may
work better for what you want.

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Re: [e-users] Shelf I-Bar Icon Animation

2018-06-12 Thread Simon Lees



On 12/06/18 11:02, Drew wrote:
> I'm very new to E0.22.1 running on Debian-testing and I'm still exploring 
> this extremely interesting DE.  One thing I can't find after seemingly 
> endless fumbling and searching is this:
> 
> Icons in the shelf animate when the cursor moves over them.  I like that.  
> But the name of the app also pops up and gets in the way.  How to turn that 
> feature off?
> 
> Thanks and regards,
> 
> Drew

Unfortunately I suspect the only way currently is hacking up the theme
so it doesn't show it anymore, if you'd like to dive down the deap hole
that is theme hacking i'm happy to help you.

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Re: [e-users] Moving between desktops

2018-06-04 Thread Simon Lees


On 05/06/18 09:56, eric wrote:
> On 06/03/2018 11:47 PM, Simon Lees wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 04/06/18 06:35, Peter Flynn wrote:
>>> On 03/06/18 00:32, eric wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> In the enlightenment menus you can go to settings - settings panel -
>>>> edge bindings and adjust the settings for left and right edges.
>>>
>>> Thank you...it's under Input, not where I would have looked at all.
>>>
>>
>> This kinda makes sense if you think of edge bindings the same as
>> keybindings
>>
> 
> Ah, I am still on enlightenment version 22.1 where it is under edge
> bindings.  I will probably update enlightenment after I update this
> ubuntu from 16.04 to 18.04.  Right now everything is working great and
> will keep it as long as I can.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Eric
>Yeah but the reason edge bindings is in the "Input" menu is because it
is the same as keyboard and mouse bindings which were probably already
in the input section before edge bindings existed.

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Re: [e-users] Moving between desktops

2018-06-04 Thread Simon Lees


On 04/06/18 06:35, Peter Flynn wrote:
> On 03/06/18 00:32, eric wrote:
> [...]
>> In the enlightenment menus you can go to settings - settings panel -
>> edge bindings and adjust the settings for left and right edges.  
> 
> Thank you...it's under Input, not where I would have looked at all.
> 

This kinda makes sense if you think of edge bindings the same as
keybindings

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Re: [e-users] problem with input focus and window layering in E 0.21.11

2018-05-09 Thread Simon Lees


On 09/05/18 23:50, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Wed, May 09, 2018 at 11:16:52AM +0200, Jérémy Zurcher wrote:
>> Hello Marc,
>>
>> I don't like that default behaviour either.
>> but it's very easy to disable :
>>   Settings -> Windows -> window focus -> Click window to focus
> 
> Yeah, thanks for that workaround, I could do this if I had to.
> 
> However, sorry if I'm being dense here:
> I've had focus follow mouse for literally 20 years.
> I've never had my mouse pointer focus a window underneath the window I'm
> pointing on.
> I sure don't want that, and E has never ever done this, until now with
> 0.22.11.

I used to do that all the time, with semi transparent terminal windows
that over lapped or other cases where I was re writing in text I went
back to click to focus years ago though.

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Re: [e-users] E 0.21.5 stuck at 100% CPU for days

2018-03-26 Thread Simon Lees


On 27/03/18 01:43, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> This happens some time after I start, not right away.
> Restarting E while my desktop is running does not seem to help significantly.
> 
> What is my best way to find out what is keeping E in a busy loop like this?
> 

if you kill the e process with a sig segfault you will get a backtrace
that will show exactly whats causing it, also try updating to the latest
e / efl many issues have been fixed since.

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.22.2 Release

2018-03-23 Thread Simon Lees


On 23/03/18 02:09, Pau Espin Pedrol wrote:
> 2018-03-21 8:24 GMT+01:00 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de>:
> 
>> Be aware that this release has issues with the lock screen not
>> unlocking, we are working on a fix and 0.22.3 will be out in the coming
>> days fixing this issue.
>>
> 
> Until then, the only way to recover your session right now, as posted in
> archlinux issue tracking the upstream one, is to go to a console (CTRL+F2)
> and "kill -SIGSEGV enlightenment" , at which point the "white screen of
> death" will appear and after resuming from it, the screenlock will be gone.
> 
> Which makes me think, is this a desired behaviour too? After killing
> enlightenment and resuming the session, shouldn't it return automatically
> to the screenlock if it was in that state? Looks like a security issue for
> me. Imagine I have a terminal emulator with "su root" inside enlightenment,
> and I also have a terminal opened in CTRL+F2 with my unprivileged user. If
> I leave my PC unattened, somebody could access my user through CTRL+F2, and
> then basically escalate privileges to root by killing -SIGSEGV
> enlightenment and accessing the terminal which was under lockscreen before
> but which is now unlocked.

I was wondering the same thing, as I was also using the segfault e trick
to fix my password.

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[e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.22.3 Release

2018-03-22 Thread Simon Lees
This release is mainly to fix a lock screen regression in the 0.22.2
Release.

CHANGES
https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/tree/NEWS?h=v0.22.3


4d81e583073d74474b7a960b01cb596716a43cca2fadca7d1e5c91f4cf6efe9b
http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.22.3.tar.xz

See the full announcement for more details:
https://www.enlightenment.org/news/e0.22.3_release

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.22.2 Release

2018-03-21 Thread Simon Lees
Hi

On 21/03/18 18:16, Marc Burkhardt wrote:
> Hey there,
> 
> besides this the smart window resize is broken. It doesn't use the available 
> free vertical and horizontal space any more, but maximizes fullscreen instead.
> 

Can you open a report on phab.enlightenment.org,

Thanks

> 
> Am March 21, 2018 7:24:48 AM UTC schrieb Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de>:
>> Be aware that this release has issues with the lock screen not
>> unlocking, we are working on a fix and 0.22.3 will be out in the coming
>> days fixing this issue.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> On 15/03/18 15:11, Simon Lees wrote:
>>> CHANGES
>>>
>> https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/tree/NEWS?h=v0.22.2
>>>
>>>
>>> 4d581ef85246f0cba003427bb9b3758e3de137babea1cdd2affd70a2cbe1632c
>>>
>> http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.22.2.tar.xz
>>>
>>> See the full announcement for more details:
>>> https://www.enlightenment.org/news/e0.22.2_release
>>>

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.22.2 Release

2018-03-21 Thread Simon Lees
Be aware that this release has issues with the lock screen not
unlocking, we are working on a fix and 0.22.3 will be out in the coming
days fixing this issue.

Cheers

On 15/03/18 15:11, Simon Lees wrote:
> CHANGES
> https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/tree/NEWS?h=v0.22.2
> 
> 
> 4d581ef85246f0cba003427bb9b3758e3de137babea1cdd2affd70a2cbe1632c
> http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.22.2.tar.xz
> 
> See the full announcement for more details:
> https://www.enlightenment.org/news/e0.22.2_release
> 

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Re: [e-users] Codename "egram"

2018-03-08 Thread Simon Lees


On 09/03/18 04:34, Pierre Couderc wrote:
> Is there a project to develop some efl application like WhatsApp,
> Telegram or Signal based on efl and with distributed database to not be
> dependent on a centralized server ?
> 
> Who would be interested ?
> 
There's an open source equivalent to many of these things called wire
(wire.com), an efl frontend would be awesome, I don't see the point in
developing another backend / service when something thats open source
and good enough likely already exists.

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Re: [e-users] xdg-bs

2018-03-06 Thread Simon Lees


On 06/03/18 20:33, Peter Flynn wrote:
>> On Monday 27 Mar 2017 20:47:29 Peter Flynn wrote:
>>> On 03/27/2017 07:56 PM, Mick wrote:
>>>> On Monday 27 Mar 2017 19:39:21 Peter Flynn wrote:
>>>>> On 27/03/17 00:47, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 16:55:45 -0400 Christopher Barry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, this is annoying...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> claws-mail uses xdg-open to decide what app to use when 
>>>>>>> opening files (rather than 'alternatives', which is the 
>>>>>>> standard Debian way to do this), so clicking on a link in 
>>>>>>> email always opens Chromium rather than Firefox which is my 
>>>>>>> system default browser. When I try to see/change it in
>>>>>>> Enlightenment, I get the following.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $ xdg-settings get default-web-browser
>>>>>>> xdg-settings: unknown desktop environment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to change this setting to point to Firefox?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> settings -> apps -> default applications -> browser
>>>>>
>>>>> And does that *really* change xdg settings?
>>>>>
>>>>> The *big* problem for me is that when I click on a mailto:
>>>>> link in chromium-browser, it just opens another browser window,
>>>>> or sometimes pops up a window saying it wants to run some 
>>>>> unspecified program recommended by xdg, which never does 
>>>>> anything. If anyone knows how to force chromium-browser to
>>>>> open Thunderbird, I'd be grateful.>>>
>>>> Have you tried setting something in Handlers to see if it takes?
>>>> https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/114662?visit_id=0-636262376794060954-3121866498=ib_protocol_handler=2
>>>>  
>>> Unfortunately that's for requesting *web* services to respond to 
>>> protocol calls (eg make mailto: open Hotmail). It's set by
>>> default, but it doesn't do anything that I can see for *programs*
>>> (eg Tbird).
>>
>> Yes, I noticed the same just now.  I cannot add anything to it ...
>> I suspect Chromium/Chrome use xdg-open, so:
>> 'xdg-mime query default message/rfc822'
>> should show your default application for e.g. viewing messages.
> 
> Hah. Fixed.
> 
> Nothing to do with handlers, nothing to do with MIME types.
> 
> Everything to do with xdg and its default action, which is to open a
> *browser* instead of a *mailer* for mailto: actions. This is entirely
> wrong, and I am shocked that the xdg project would make such an
> elementary error. It also happens because xdg doesn't know about e.
> 
> Solution: edit /usr/bin/xdg-email and at the bottom, inside the case
> command, add
> 
> enlightenment)
> open_gnome "${mailto}"
> ;;
> 
> before the generic entry. Save and exit.
> 
> ///Peter
> 

Thanks as the maintainer of xdg-utils in a major distro i'll have a look
at this and get it fixed, i've contributed most of the xdg-utils code
for enlightenment, the bug is now tracked here
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1084236 so I remember to
go fix it.

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Re: [e-users] Replicating e bryce/luncher

2018-03-06 Thread Simon Lees


On 06/03/18 10:30, Peter Flynn wrote:
> On 05/03/18 23:28, Simon Lees wrote:> On 06/03/18 06:57, Peter Flynn wrote:
>>> Now that my configuration has settled down and I have migrated all my
>>> machines to Mint Cinnamon with Enlightenment, I need a way to replicate
>>> the bryce/luncher setup from my laptop onto all the other machines.
>>> They're all running the exact same versions of everything.
>>>
>>> Is there a ready-made way to do this, like copying a config file?
>>
>> Not a simple way, you can take your config and decompile it with vieet
>> then use it as the basis to create a new profile then load that profile
>> into all your computers. 
> 
> That's a pity. I don't want a new profile: I basically want the
> identical profile on each system. As they are all running an identical
> OS with identical applications I had hoped that the data for the
> settings would be transferable.
> 

Yeah so I have one profile I load onto all my machines during first run,
its more flexible then just copying all of .e, because my machines have
different size monitors and a couple have an extra screen, but all using
the same profile means that my keyboard bindings and shelf layout for
the main screen and my list of modules loaded is the same on each machine.

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Re: [e-users] Replicating e bryce/luncher

2018-03-05 Thread Simon Lees


On 06/03/18 06:57, Peter Flynn wrote:
> Now that my configuration has settled down and I have migrated all my
> machines to Mint Cinnamon with Enlightenment, I need a way to replicate
> the bryce/luncher setup from my laptop onto all the other machines.
> They're all running the exact same versions of everything.
> 
> Is there a ready-made way to do this, like copying a config file?
> 
> ///Peter
> 

Not a simple way, you can take your config and decompile it with vieet
then use it as the basis to create a new profile then load that profile
into all your computers. I basically do that with openSUSE you might be
able to get some ideas here,
https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/X11:Enlightenment:Factory/enlightenment-profiles-openSUSE

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Re: [e-users] to fedora maintainer

2018-02-12 Thread Simon Lees


On 11/02/18 06:50, Vasiliy Tolstov wrote:
> Hi! I'm use fedora and now default enlightenment package (before that
> i'm use fedora build service to build own package). Why fedora
> maintainer not build enlightenment with wayland support? I can' run
> dbus-run-session enlightenment_start in console (like before in my own
> package).
> 

I'm not sure if the fedora maintainer is on this list or any of our
lists, I haven't seen them active anywhere before. (if you are here feel
welcome to say hi, I'm the openSUSE maintainer + release manager)

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Re: [e-users] labels disappear... with efl 1.20

2017-12-08 Thread Simon Lees


On 28/11/17 23:54, Pierre Couderc wrote:
> Please note that with your
> http://simotek.net/downloads/e-themes/openSUSE-e.edj and with most of
> the themes (with the notable exception of the  default system theme),
> the labels (as created with     elm_label_add(xx)) do not work. They are
> not visible, and no space is reserved for them.
> 
> This can be immediately tested by running the main page of
> elementary_test. I am very sorry, because I like it ;)
> 
> PC
> 

Yeah that build of the theme was for e19 or something, I haven't updated
those binaries on my website for a long time, if its a actual openSUSE
theme building it from my github will work because I just ported them
all to e22, I can upload the binaries back to my website sometime on the
weekend, I was going to do that and put them on e17-stuff.org and
extra.e.org at some point, just run out of time.

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[e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.22.1 Release

2017-11-21 Thread Simon Lees


CHANGES
https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/tree/NEWS?h=v0.22.1


207b6b88dafc4932ab007a835510823c5a1dd8c191876ac037628176ca77a7e0
http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.22.1.tar.xz

See the full announcement for more details:
https://www.enlightenment.org/news/e0.22.1_release


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Re: [e-users] Icons missing on SUSE Leap 42.3 with E version 0.21.8

2017-10-15 Thread Simon Lees


On 14/10/17 22:29, Donald via enlightenment-users wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> no the two are not related.
> Whilst the first is just annoying, this new one is a real bummer for me.

Why do you think the missing icons and efreet issues are not related?
efreet is responsible for managing the icon cache so i'd say its likely.
I'll probably push updates for e and efl to the official repo once
1.20.5 and efl 0.21.11 are released which should be this week, maybe
that will help

Cheers

> And I am running E version 0.21.8, from the official SuSE LEAP repos.
> 
> Thx for any hlp with this.
> 
> 
> On October 9, 2017 1:55:54 AM Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 09/10/17 04:02, Donald via enlightenment-users wrote:
>>> Hello World,
>>>
>>> I had some trubles with my tribbles whilst trying to get CrossOver to
>>> work with IBM Notes.
>>> Well the result was a couple of unforseen reboots (system got stuck,
>>> forcing me to do a hard reset) and after some time I just gave up on it
>>> and uninstalled Notes altogether.
>>> But while the rest of my box is now back to the way it was before, the
>>> iBar of my enlightenment setup is now missing 90+% of its icons. This
>>> happened after one of those forced reboots.
>>> The icon files are all still there, they just won't show up in the
>>> launcher bar.
>>> I can start the apps w/o issue, but I can not get their icons to show,
>>> not even after adding all those icon dirs to the e-icon dir search list
>>> manually.
>>>
>>> Anybody got some good ideas on this one?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>   Donald
>>>
>>
>> I expect its directly related to your other post "efreet could not build
>> cache. Check your DBus setup", how or why I'm not sure, I haven't seen
>> it here personally. Which EFL version are you using? and do you have any
>> 3rd party enlightenment repo's enabled? I haven't seen it in any of my
>> testing, but I might be running slightly different versions.
>>
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Re: [e-users] Icons missing on SUSE Leap 42.3 with E version 0.21.8

2017-10-08 Thread Simon Lees


On 09/10/17 04:02, Donald via enlightenment-users wrote:
> Hello World,
> 
> I had some trubles with my tribbles whilst trying to get CrossOver to
> work with IBM Notes.
> Well the result was a couple of unforseen reboots (system got stuck,
> forcing me to do a hard reset) and after some time I just gave up on it
> and uninstalled Notes altogether.
> But while the rest of my box is now back to the way it was before, the
> iBar of my enlightenment setup is now missing 90+% of its icons. This
> happened after one of those forced reboots.
> The icon files are all still there, they just won't show up in the
> launcher bar.
> I can start the apps w/o issue, but I can not get their icons to show,
> not even after adding all those icon dirs to the e-icon dir search list
> manually.
> 
> Anybody got some good ideas on this one?
> 
> Regards
>   Donald
> 

I expect its directly related to your other post "efreet could not build
cache. Check your DBus setup", how or why I'm not sure, I haven't seen
it here personally. Which EFL version are you using? and do you have any
3rd party enlightenment repo's enabled? I haven't seen it in any of my
testing, but I might be running slightly different versions.

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Re: [e-users] New to Enlightenment. I have some questions.

2017-09-17 Thread Simon Lees


On 17/09/17 02:15, Michael Z Freeman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> So far definitely a fan ! E seems to have retained the original spirit of
> linux WM's that started in the mid to late 90's. Reminds me of Afterstep.
> User/individual centred. The desktop is my space right ? So why do Gnome
> and KDE feel like Grand Designs did a remake of my home while I was away
> based on blueprints I was never shown ?
> 
> I came to Enlightenment mainly through pursuing Wayland. I'm not a fan of
> Gnome Shell or KDE and so I discovered E. I have latest E from git working
> completely in X11 and it loads for Wayland (latest git) but has a few
> problems (see my other message, I forgot to mention it only sees one of my
> two screens).
> 
> So here are some questions.
> 
> 1. Where did all the themes go ? I've found a couple of working themes.
> Other's are too old and don't load. One of the main sites seems to have
> decided to put most of its themes on divshare which is now defunct.
> 

The backend has changed substantially over time to make it work much
better but as a result all the old themes aren't compatible, i'm slowly
porting some across but its a long slow process as enlightenment themes
are huge. But now that the theme API is stable once a theme is ported it
should remain working for a long time.

> 2. What about other modules ? This site -
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/enlightenment#.22Extra.22_modules -
> mentions extra modules like the "scale Windows" one but I can't find it
> anywhere.
> 
Again to support wayland most of enlightenments backend had to be
rewritten to presume a compositor exists and many of the older 3rd party
modules haven't kept up with the API changes

> 3. Other applications. I'm finding more all the time like the theme
> designer. Are these all collected in one place ?
> 

https://www.enlightenment.org/about has some but there is no central
place, alongside the ones there are these, they have all had a stable
release etc, there are many others that people are working on that
haven't been released yet.

  * Lekha is a good pdf viewer https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Lekha
  * epymc is a great media center https://github.com/DaveMDS/epymc
  * eperiodique is a periodic table http://eperiodique.sourceforge.net/
  * Espionage is a dbus inspector
https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/projects/espionage/ (This should be
moved to the main e website rather then phab)


> Michael Freeman
> 
> 

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment 0.21.9 checksum

2017-08-17 Thread Simon Lees


On 18/08/17 09:23, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 17:41:39 +0200 maderios <mader...@gmail.com> said:
> 
>> Hi
>> Enlightenment 21.9 is out. Where can I find checksum?
>> Thanks
> 
> we don't provide checksums.
> 
> technically just the https ssl cert should be enough to verify that the source
> is correct. if the source (e.org) were compromised then the checksum could 
> also
> be compromised to match. if things were delivered over http (non-ssl) then a
> checksum would help avoid a MITM modifying the tarball (but they could modify
> everything in-flight including checksums too if smart enough).
> 

There is a sha256sum for each tarball in the News announcement and
release email, this was generated before I uploaded the tarballs and
once I uploaded them I downloaded them again and confirmed that the
tarballs I downloaded have a matching checksum. As raster said we don't
upload the checksum to the download server as a separate file. If there
was enough demand I guess we could and I could also sign it with my GPG
key which would make detecting tampering possible. I know that if a
checksum and a signature are present in openSUSE spec files our build
service will use them to verify the source code, but to date we only
really have that set up for core packages.

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Re: [e-users] Buttons, check boxex, radio not displayed in Firefox

2017-08-07 Thread Simon Lees


On 08/08/17 04:05, Pierre Couderc wrote:
> Since some move (I think it is by migrating to debian stretch and so to
> Firefox-ESR 52.2.0 (64-bit)), I see no more buttons, check boxes and
> radio and all input fields.
> 
> See :  http://www.tol.fr/download/tmp.jpg
> 
> Well, I suppose it is not a e problem. But as I have explored Firefox
> possibilities and found nothing, I post here in case someone get an idea...
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> PC
> 
> 

Similar issues have been caused in the past by using out of date gtk themes.

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Re: [e-users] dependencies on systemd?

2017-08-01 Thread Simon Lees


On 02/08/17 10:47, Christopher Barry wrote:
> 
> Greets all,
> 
> Planning to make the move to Devuan, the systemd-less Debian fork. I
> just can't stand this invasive hairball another minute. I only boot my
> machine every few months - I really don't care if it boots 6 seconds
> faster. It takes longer to fully init my 24GB of RAM than sysV init ever
> took to boot anyway. 
> 
> Will Enlightenment work ok without systemd? Please tell me I won't have
> to leave my beloved desktop of close to 20 years behind.
> 

As long as your not running wayland it should still work fine, you will
need to make sure that everything listed in
"/etc/enlightenment/sysactions.conf" is correct for your machine though.

./configure looks for systemd by default now because we want
enlightenment to use it if its available so you will likely need to pass
--disable-systemd or something similar to configure for both of efl and
enlightenment.

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Re: [e-users] EFL Applications ToDo/Wanted

2017-07-16 Thread Simon Lees


On 14/07/17 11:28, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 11:16:53 +0930 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> said:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 14/07/17 08:47, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 08:11:57 +0930 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14/07/17 02:18, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>>>>> Greetings to the enlightened!
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have an application you would like to see ported to E/EFL?
>>>>> Or something you would like in E/EFL?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, please add your dreams, wishes, ideas, needs, or desires to the
>>>>> following page. Please review for duplicates before adding yours.
>>>>> Otherwise feel free to modify and contribute to the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/efl_apps_todo/
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your participation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Making E Great Again! ( pun intended! )
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> After a text editor (I know your working on one)
>>>>
>>>> The other two we really miss on openSUSE are:
>>>>  * kdesu / gnomesu
>>>
>>> that's already inlcuded in enlightenment. just use sudo. behold the gui
>>> password entry. e sets SUDO_ASKPASS.
>>
>> In other words its already included if you make a major behavior change
>> that's against the policy of some distro's
> 
> it works fine with sudo and already works and is simple... if your distro 
> policy
> wants to make life hard by creating more work then i kind of lean to
> "distro's job to fix it" :) add a password fetcher to su - patch it so it 
> works
> like sudo... far better and simpler than writing a whole new su replacement.
> 

Well yeah its not a reimplementation of su, its just a simple app that
calls it with the right arguments in a secure fashion. Won't be hard for
me or someone to do, its just finding the time to get it done. esudo has
changed and maybe able to be modified to do this right.

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Re: [e-users] EFL Applications ToDo/Wanted

2017-07-13 Thread Simon Lees


On 14/07/17 08:47, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 08:11:57 +0930 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> said:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 14/07/17 02:18, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>>> Greetings to the enlightened!
>>>
>>> Do you have an application you would like to see ported to E/EFL?
>>> Or something you would like in E/EFL?
>>>
>>> If so, please add your dreams, wishes, ideas, needs, or desires to the
>>> following page. Please review for duplicates before adding yours.
>>> Otherwise feel free to modify and contribute to the list.
>>>
>>> https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/efl_apps_todo/
>>>
>>> Thank you for your participation.
>>>
>>> Making E Great Again! ( pun intended! )
>>>
>>
>> After a text editor (I know your working on one)
>>
>> The other two we really miss on openSUSE are:
>>  * kdesu / gnomesu
> 
> that's already inlcuded in enlightenment. just use sudo. behold the gui
> password entry. e sets SUDO_ASKPASS.
> 

In other words its already included if you make a major behavior change
that's against the policy of some distro's

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Re: [e-users] EFL Applications ToDo/Wanted

2017-07-13 Thread Simon Lees


On 14/07/17 02:18, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> Greetings to the enlightened!
> 
> Do you have an application you would like to see ported to E/EFL?
> Or something you would like in E/EFL?
> 
> If so, please add your dreams, wishes, ideas, needs, or desires to the
> following page. Please review for duplicates before adding yours.
> Otherwise feel free to modify and contribute to the list.
> 
> https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/efl_apps_todo/
> 
> Thank you for your participation.
> 
> Making E Great Again! ( pun intended! )
> 

After a text editor (I know your working on one)

The other two we really miss on openSUSE are:
 * kdesu / gnomesu
 * Network Manager Applet (both the desktop gadget and config dialogs)

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Re: [e-users] eflete

2017-05-25 Thread Simon Lees


On 05/25/2017 09:43 PM, maderios wrote:
> On 05/25/2017 01:47 PM, Simon Lees wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 05/25/2017 08:20 PM, maderios wrote:
>>> On 05/25/2017 10:18 AM, Simon Lees wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/25/2017 06:56 AM, maderios wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> I tried to compile eflete-0.7.0
>>>>> Iget
>>>>> ./configure
>>>>> efl: no (version < 1.18 or > 1.18.)
>>>>>
>>>>> efl-1.19.1 and e-21.8 are installed on my debian stretch system, it
>>>>> works fine.
>>>>> I don't understand...
>>>>> Thanks for any idea
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you have the efl-dev packages (it could be called something slightly
>>>> different I don't remember) installed?
>>>>
>>> 'efl-dev' is a debian package, it's not my case.
>>> I compile efl and e myself.
>>>
>>
>> in that case check that efl.pc is in one of /usr/lib/pkgconfig
>> /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig or is in somewhere referenced by the
>> PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable.
>>
> I have /usr/lib/pkgconfig/efl.pc
> 

Can you put the contents of that file in an email?

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Re: [e-users] eflete

2017-05-25 Thread Simon Lees


On 05/25/2017 08:20 PM, maderios wrote:
> On 05/25/2017 10:18 AM, Simon Lees wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 05/25/2017 06:56 AM, maderios wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> I tried to compile eflete-0.7.0
>>> Iget
>>> ./configure
>>> efl: no (version < 1.18 or > 1.18.)
>>>
>>> efl-1.19.1 and e-21.8 are installed on my debian stretch system, it
>>> works fine.
>>> I don't understand...
>>> Thanks for any idea
>>>
>>
>> Do you have the efl-dev packages (it could be called something slightly
>> different I don't remember) installed?
>>
> 'efl-dev' is a debian package, it's not my case.
> I compile efl and e myself.
> 

in that case check that efl.pc is in one of /usr/lib/pkgconfig
/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig or is in somewhere referenced by the
PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable.

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Re: [e-users] eflete

2017-05-25 Thread Simon Lees


On 05/25/2017 06:56 AM, maderios wrote:
> 
> Hi
> I tried to compile eflete-0.7.0
> Iget
> ./configure
> efl: no (version < 1.18 or > 1.18.)
> 
> efl-1.19.1 and e-21.8 are installed on my debian stretch system, it 
> works fine.
> I don't understand...
> Thanks for any idea
> 

Do you have the efl-dev packages (it could be called something slightly
different I don't remember) installed?

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[e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.21.8 Release

2017-05-24 Thread Simon Lees


CHANGES
https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/tree/NEWS?h=v0.21.8

TICKETS ADDRESSED
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4963
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3144
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5262
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5288
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5340
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5348
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5418
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5444
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5464

SHA256SUM + DOWNLOAD
44332443b39ac6f0563713c3d85acbbba0011dd7659e6b7d500ec09e05896197
http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.21.8.tar.gz

fac21c5fb9cab89fb717b3577f7980fd0644ff1e94b144a55ba841116e8c5232
http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.21.8.tar.xz

See the full announcement for more details:
https://www.enlightenment.org/news/e0.21.8_release

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Re: [e-users] bluetooth pairing without pulseaudio / automatic pairing?

2017-04-10 Thread Simon Lees


On 04/10/2017 05:00 PM, Gabriele Zaverio wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I'm in need of pairing a bluetooth speaker to my laptop, and I'm
> wondering if this is possible WITHOUT using pulseaudio. (because
> pulseaudio is using sometimes a lot of cpu, add a lot of latency, and
> ALSA is every time fine for me - in short I believe pulseaudio is an
> unuseful piece of CRAP and I don't wanna use it, but that's another
> topic :) )
> 
Well if you want low latency you don't use bluetooth, I use jack for my
low latency audio use, however my audio only works when I have my
recording interface plugged in and it uses considerably more CPU then
pulse but it is much lower latency.

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Re: [e-users] Starting e with the correct access rights

2017-04-10 Thread Simon Lees


On 04/10/2017 07:55 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Monday 10 Apr 2017 18:41:05 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> stuff used to be so much simpler 20 years abck. you just had your login
>> manger run ~/.xsession. this script would run your wm last without & (with
>> exec before if u were smart) and anything u wanted launched on login before
>> that in the script.
>>
>> today it's a forest of services and god knows what...
> 
> 
> Yes!  Services, service prerequisites upon dependencies, environment parsers, 
> etc, etc.
> 
> Now that you're mentioning using 'exec', I recall reading in this M/L that 
> /usr/bin/enlightenment_start does *not* need exec before it.  Is this correct?
> 

Are you running a policykit agent? If not that could cause some issues.
Under a systemd user session its done automatically for you but if not
you'll need another application. lxde has one that doesn't require many
deps https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Polkit#Authentication_agents
(there is a efl one listed but I doubt thats maintained well by anyone
as most don't need it). That will probably atleast fix your mount issues.

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Re: [e-users] edje_decc on an old .edj

2017-04-10 Thread Simon Lees


On 04/10/2017 02:08 PM, Daniel Kasak wrote:
> I've tried both Sparky-3.5 ( with e-18.x ) and Bodhi ( fork of e-17.x
> ), and they *both* give the same error :(
> 
> Any other options?
> 
> Dan
> 
Modern Bodhi would be using a newish version of efl and edje_cc so it
wouldn't work. The best option is probably to download the edje 1.0.0
tarball (and whatever it needed to build) and compile it from source
somewhere in /opt, that might be old enough for you.


> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 04/09/2017 08:43 PM, Daniel Kasak wrote:
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> I just tried loading up some old .edj files ( animated backgrounds )
>>> that I made, quite a long time ago ( around 2006 ). E no longer shows
>>> a preview for them, and also doesn't let me select them.
>>
>> Yeah Enlightenment has code to block loading anything that is too old
>> and not compatible with it.
>>
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Re: [e-users] edje_decc on an old .edj

2017-04-09 Thread Simon Lees


On 04/09/2017 08:43 PM, Daniel Kasak wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I just tried loading up some old .edj files ( animated backgrounds )
> that I made, quite a long time ago ( around 2006 ). E no longer shows
> a preview for them, and also doesn't let me select them. 

Yeah Enlightenment has code to block loading anything that is too old
and not compatible with it.

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Re: [e-users] Recommended applications...

2017-03-31 Thread Simon Lees


On 03/31/2017 03:53 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 03/30/2017 07:42 PM, Pierre Couderc wrote:
>>> Is there a list of recommended applications with e or "for" e ?
>>>
>>> To help life.
>>>
>>> For example : how to mount  automatically a USB memory ? What app does
>>> that ?
>>>
>>> Is there a browser recommended ? or a mail client ?
>>>
>> Not at the moment, probably take the distro default if there is one.
>>
>>> What are the best practices ?
>>>
>> In terms of best practices, for openSUSE I have only chosen apps that
>> depend either on gtk or Qt, rather then gnome or KDE, on the basis that
>> I don't want to recommend apps that will also pull in half a desktop of
>> dependencies. ATM I recommend lightdm as a display manager,
> 
> 
> why not entrance?
> 

The reasons for openSUSE probably in order of importance (and also why I
don't recommend it further)

1. It has never been deemed stable enough to have an official release.
2. It doesn't seem to be actively maintained (from memory its a couple
of years since people were working on it).
3. I don't know if it launches E properly with systemd user sessions, if
it does its certainly not well tested
4. It doesn't support wayland and there has been talk of making
something new rather then using wayland support.
5. It hasn't been tested on a wide range of distro's and may not be well
adapted. In openSUSE's case for example I'd need to make some
modifications as we have 1 Display-Manager service which launches the
correct display manager based off a config file rather then shipping a
service file / init script for each.
6. (openSUSE only) on openSUSE we use Lightdm for everything not
gnome/kde so its well intergrated into our auto test stuff and well
maintained.

Were 1-4 fixed i'd probably put some effort in with a maintainers help
to getting it working, but at no time in the last 2 years has this
seemed likely.

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Re: [e-users] Recommended applications...

2017-03-30 Thread Simon Lees


On 03/30/2017 07:42 PM, Pierre Couderc wrote:
> Is there a list of recommended applications with e or "for" e ?
> 
> To help life.
> 
> For example : how to mount  automatically a USB memory ? What app does 
> that ?
> 
> Is there a browser recommended ? or a mail client ?
> 
Not at the moment, probably take the distro default if there is one.

> What are the best practices ?
> 
In terms of best practices, for openSUSE I have only chosen apps that
depend either on gtk or Qt, rather then gnome or KDE, on the basis that
I don't want to recommend apps that will also pull in half a desktop of
dependencies. ATM I recommend lightdm as a display manager, Firefox
(distro default), clementine as a full music player and Leafpad as a
text editor. Everything else is being done by an efl based app or is not
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Re: [e-users] First time default settings

2017-03-30 Thread Simon Lees


On 03/30/2017 11:40 PM, Francesc Guasch wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 09:58:18AM +1030, Simon Lees wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 03/28/2017 09:06 PM, Francesc Guasch wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> The very first time an user starts Enlightment there
>>> are some options to choose from: language, and so.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to let the users not to have to go
>>> through this ?
>>>
>> Yes you can simply remove the ones you do not want (there are some that
>> you don't see that you do still want), there are also others like
>> language where we are working to only show them when we can't detect it
>> from the system.
>>
>> On openSUSE we remove some pages such as the one asking about taskbars
>> and ship a extended range of profiles. We also remove some others such
>> as the notification about upgrades that make no sense to us. Simply
>> remove the pages you don't require from your equivalent of
>> /usr/lib64/enlightenment/modules/wizard/linux-gnu-x86_64-ver-0.21/ When
> 
> Thank you Simon, that was exactlly what I was looking for.
> 
> I found a problem doing that, the wizard never ends if I
> remove the page for the "Profile Chooser".
> 
> I installed Enlightenment 21 from niko2040 ppa.
> Then I removed some files from the modules directory, leaving
> only the keyboard selection and keeping the hidden ones.
> After choosing the keyboard, the user is asked to wait for
> a second. then the same keyboard dialog is shown, again and
> again.
> 
> The only module that I tested that brings that error is
> page_020 : Profile Chooser. Is it really mandatory or
> should I file a bug ?
> 

I suspect without reading the page that if you just remove it no profile
will be set. This can be  worked around in one of 2 ways, either A patch
the source code to not show the wizard (return 0 instead of 1) and to
also set a profile. Or alternatively which is probably simpler, replace
the source code for the "default" profile with that of the "standard"
profile in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/config. Note that doing so may
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Re: [e-users] First time default settings

2017-03-28 Thread Simon Lees


On 03/28/2017 09:06 PM, Francesc Guasch wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> The very first time an user starts Enlightment there
> are some options to choose from: language, and so.
> 
> Is there a way to let the users not to have to go
> through this ?
> 
> I was thinking about a system default directory that
> could be copied to the user home the first time or
> something like this. I was searching the site and the
> mailing list archives but I couldn't find anything.
> 
> Thank you.
> 

Yes you can simply remove the ones you do not want (there are some that
you don't see that you do still want), there are also others like
language where we are working to only show them when we can't detect it
from the system.

On openSUSE we remove some pages such as the one asking about taskbars
and ship a extended range of profiles. We also remove some others such
as the notification about upgrades that make no sense to us. Simply
remove the pages you don't require from your equivalent of
/usr/lib64/enlightenment/modules/wizard/linux-gnu-x86_64-ver-0.21/ When
I did this I created a wiki page documenting which one was which
https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/wizard_pages_list/. At a guess you will
atleast want to keep the hidden ones otherwise those features may not work.

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Re: [e-users] xdg-bs

2017-03-26 Thread Simon Lees


On 03/27/2017 07:25 AM, Christopher Barry wrote:
> 
> Okay, this is annoying...
> 
> claws-mail uses xdg-open to decide what app to use when opening files
> (rather than 'alternatives', which is the standard Debian way to do
> this), so clicking on a link in email always opens Chromium rather than
> Firefox which is my system default browser. When I try to see/change it
> in Enlightenment, I get the following.
> 
> $ xdg-settings get default-web-browser
> xdg-settings: unknown desktop environment
> 
> 
> Any ideas on how to change this setting to point to Firefox?
> 
Raise a bug in Debian, they are missing this patch I wrote ages ago
which only got accepted upstream recently, it adds proper support for
enlightenment so it will call "enlightenment-open" in this case. Someone
stuffed up and added enlightenment support too `1-2 commands but not the
rest which made everything else worse.

6387086e4938d568c2bab185632f60e1619b3f68
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Re: [e-users] best way to edit edj file

2017-03-07 Thread Simon Lees


On 03/08/2017 06:44 AM, Toan Pham wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> I would like to edit the default theme of terminology (file:
> /usr/share/terminology/themes/default.edj).  From online references, .edj
> files be edited with edje_editor.  The problem is that I can not find the
> utility anywhere from the niiko repository of ubuntu 16.04.  The close
> utilities I can find are:
> 
> libedje-bin: /usr/bin/edje_cc
> libedje-bin: /usr/bin/edje_decc
> libedje-bin: /usr/bin/edje_external_inspector
> libedje-bin: /usr/bin/edje_inspector
> libedje-bin: /usr/bin/edje_player
> libedje-bin: /usr/bin/edje_recc
> 
> 
> My question is, what is the best way to edit the default theme?  Why isn't
> the edje_editor not packaged w/ libedje-bin anymore?  Do I have to
> de-compile the dje file then recompile it back just to edit it?  thanks

You could use a tool like eflete depending on what you want to do.
Personally I use a text editor.

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Re: [e-users] efl : make error

2017-02-16 Thread Simon Lees


On 02/16/2017 05:44 PM, Pierre Couderc wrote:
> I am trying to build efl (under debian stretch) with :
> 
> ./autogen.sh
> 
> make
> 
> Configuration seems ok but make gives me errors that I do not understand :
> 

which efl? there was recently changes for new ssl compat (Debian for
some reason has adapted new openssl api before everyone else).

> 
> nous@couderc:/opt/enlightenment/core/efl$ make
> make --no-print-directory all-recursive
> Making all in src
> make  all-recursive
>CC   lib/emile/lib_emile_libemile_la-emile_cipher_openssl.lo
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c: In function ‘emile_binbuf_cipher’:
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:90:19: error: storage size of ‘ctx’ 
> isn’t known
>  EVP_CIPHER_CTX ctx;
> ^~~
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:90:19: warning: unused variable ‘ctx’ 
> [-Wunused-variable]
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c: In function ‘emile_binbuf_decipher’:
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:189:19: error: storage size of ‘ctx’ 
> isn’t known
>  EVP_CIPHER_CTX ctx;
> ^~~
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:189:19: warning: unused variable ‘ctx’ 
> [-Wunused-variable]
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c: In function ‘emile_cipher_server_listen’:
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:298:10: warning: ‘TLSv1_server_method’ 
> is deprecated [-Wdeprecated-declarations]
>r->ssl_ctx = SSL_CTX_new(TLSv1_server_method());
>^
> In file included from /usr/include/openssl/ct.h:13:0,
>   from /usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:61,
>   from lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:13:
> /usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:1597:1: note: declared here
>   DEPRECATEDIN_1_1_0(__owur const SSL_METHOD *TLSv1_server_method(void)) 
> /* TLSv1.0 */
>   ^
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c: In function ‘emile_cipher_server_connect’:
> lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:743:10: warning: ‘TLSv1_client_method’ 
> is deprecated [-Wdeprecated-declarations]
>r->ssl_ctx = SSL_CTX_new(TLSv1_client_method());
>^
> In file included from /usr/include/openssl/ct.h:13:0,
>   from /usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:61,
>   from lib/emile/emile_cipher_openssl.c:13:
> /usr/include/openssl/ssl.h:1598:1: note: declared here
>   DEPRECATEDIN_1_1_0(__owur const SSL_METHOD *TLSv1_client_method(void)) 
> /* TLSv1.0 */
>   ^
> Makefile:34080 : la recette pour la cible 
> « lib/emile/lib_emile_libemile_la-emile_cipher_openssl.lo » a échouée
> make[4]: *** [lib/emile/lib_emile_libemile_la-emile_cipher_openssl.lo] 
> Erreur 1
> Makefile:49590 : la recette pour la cible « all-recursive » a échouée
> make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
> Makefile:16714 : la recette pour la cible « all » a échouée
> make[2]: *** [all] Erreur 2
> Makefile:2958 : la recette pour la cible « all-recursive » a échouée
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
> Makefile:2055 : la recette pour la cible « all » a échouée
> make: *** [all] Erreur 2
> nous@couderc:/opt/enlightenment/core/efl$
> 
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[e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.21.6 Release

2017-02-16 Thread Simon Lees
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  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5077

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ed0714b54d692cbcec412bdb169e5360355347ce775d27d6ae0cee25111b563d
http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.21.6.tar.xz

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Re: [e-users] Feature request to permit "branding" in themes?

2017-01-24 Thread Simon Lees


On 01/24/2017 09:53 PM, R. W. Reese wrote:
> I missed the announcement of extra.enlightenment.org, but I am glad to 
> see a central place for themes. I hope that many of the themers like 
> Agust (whose themes I use almost daily) and Duma will be stepping 
> forward with updated themes.
> 
> However, I have a suggestion for themes: providing a way to allow 
> users/distros to "brand" them (add a logo and/or distro name), something 
> that has commonly been done. In the past some of this branding has been 
> done by adding a logo to the background, frequently one that is not 
> scaled. There are two problems with this approach:
> 
> 1.  With the restoration of the old pager that captures the background, 
> that approach does not work well if the logo is not scaled. This means 
> that either users revert to the plain pager or themers incorporate the 
> distro logo into the name.
> 
> 2.  To add a distro name or logo to a theme means decompiling, modifying 
> and recompiling the theme.
> 
> Possible feature request: a way for end users/distros to add the "brand" 
> to the theme the way wallpapers can be changed. I can envision two 
> possible components here: name and/or logo to appear over the background 
> and a logo that can changed for the start button on a shelf.
> 
> I've just browsed open tasks in Phabricator and see no similar feature 
> request open. I would be interested in feedback here before entering 
> one.
> 

Given the way themes are designed that would need to be up to each theme
author to design, The config script I use for building my themes already
allows you to modify the theme description in the about box from its
config file. The simple way to do this would be to use 1 or more
(depending on size) distro.png files in the theme, then to brand you
would just need to decompile change an icon and recompile. This is
probably the best compromise between having something thats never broken
and having something thats easy to use.

It is possible to reference external images from .edj files, so we could
have /usr/share/elementary/themes/assets/logo.png, but there is no nice
way to fall back to something in the theme if its not present (As far as
I know). That approach also goes against the idea behind edj files that
one file contains all the theming info. You'd then also have to take
into account the logo has to work well on light and dark backgrounds if
the user changes theme etc...

Thanks for the idea though, i'll consider making it uniform across the
next lot of themes I start anyway. For openSUSE I generally do custom
branded themes anyway which includes more then just changing the logo
and wallpaper normally I'll make the whole theme match the distro
wallpaper.

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Re: [e-users] recent enlightenment update problems

2016-12-11 Thread Simon Lees


On 12/11/2016 10:56 PM, Peter Koellner wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote:
> 
>> Rightclick on the flag, most upper menu entry, then the delete menu
>> item. This should remove the gadget from the shelf.
> 
> There was another option to just display the current layout language code 
> without the flag, I do not want the gadget gone completely. I thought it 
> was somewhere there in the gadget preferences menu, but I don't see it 
> anywhere..
> 

There is a setting that applies to gadgets only, ie on the desktop not
on the shelf, if this was working on the shelf at one point then it was
probably a bug. Why someone added the feature only for the gadget I
don't know.

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Re: [e-users] recent enlightenment update problems

2016-12-11 Thread Simon Lees


On 12/11/2016 10:30 PM, Peter Koellner wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> since installing efl 1.18.3 I had a number of problems. It looks like the 
> black screen got solved by eliminating the whole .e configuration folder 
> again, but now with the freshly installed and reconfigured efl 1.18.4 
> and enlightenment 0.21.5 there seems to be a new problem with the input 
> focus. It looks like changing the input between windows on two different 
> monitors does not work cleanly for some reason. The text I am typing
> continues to go to the last focused window on the other monitor and I found it
> very difficult to persuade the focus to change by moving the new window to 
> the other monitor and back. I tried this with some firefox and IDE on the 
> second monitor and a freshly compiled Terminology and a XTerm on first 
> monitor. Is this some configuration thing or a bug that should be reported?
> 

Do you mind creating a report for this on phab.enlightenment.org ?

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[e-users] efl / e Australian Meetup.

2016-11-28 Thread Simon Lees
Hi All,

Seen as more then one of us are going to be at linux.conf.au at Hobart
in January as such we were thinking of having a meetup either on the
Wednesday or Thursday night, if anyone else is planning to be around let
us know.

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Re: [e-users] No startup applications loaded

2016-11-16 Thread Simon Lees


On 11/17/2016 08:48 AM, R. W. Reese wrote:
> I have not seen anything like this on the list and my archive search 
> turned up basically nothing since E17, so this must be a compiling or 
> config problem.
> 
> E20.7 packaged and running in Mageia RC (with lxdm as DM if that 
> matters) loads none of the applications or services in 
> ~/.e/e/applications/startup/.order.
> 
> The problem first popped up as the authentication agent is not running. 
> After beating my head on the wall on that one, I realized that since I 
> do not have a systray running, I had no idea if notifications or other 
> applications/services were running or not. Sure enough, when I check "ps 
> aux" grepping the applications that should be running, none are.
> 
> Recalling having seen that openSUSE deals with the applications at 
> startup by suggesting starting KDE or Gnome services, I tried activating 
> Gnome DE services that with no change. Besides, this is not needed on 
> the two Manjaro installations I have been using since E18 days.
> 
> What is likely the problem here and/or how do I go about debugging it?
> 

At various points in the last year or 2 startup applications were
broken, including 0.20.7, See https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3584 the
best way to fix this is to update to a newer version which has the fix.


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Re: [e-users] failed build of python-efl

2016-11-03 Thread Simon Lees


On 11/03/2016 07:47 PM, Benoit Barthelet wrote:
> Greetings,
> I got this error after I compiled efl to the latest git commit this morning.
> 

Try and pull then rebuild efl followed by python efl, the build break
looks fixed.


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Re: [e-users] Need help with NetworkManager / Gnome stuff under E ...

2016-11-01 Thread Simon Lees


On 11/02/2016 11:22 AM, Daniel Kasak wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I just switched jobs ( yay ) and the new one has a wireless network
> with WPA2 security, PEAP auth, and a CA certificate.
> 
> When I set this up in the gnome control panel, running under gnome, it
> connects fine. But when I launch E after booting, I get a cryptic
> error in systemd logs:
> 
> No agents were available for this request
> 
> I guess there are some gnome services that are required that aren't
> running for me under E? Does anyone know what I'm missing?
> 
> Dan
> 

Is efl / e built with systemd support? if so it should (TM) just work if
not another alternative is to run some other policykit agent at startup,
most distro's ship the LXDE one as a standalone package which works
otherwise there is a couple of others that can be used. Its also
possible to get nm-applet running in the systray if its built with the
following configure flag "--with-appindicator" or something similar
anyway although that maybe broken in the last release.

In enlightenments startup app section i'm also starting "Certificate and
Key Storage" although I don't remember if thats related.

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment on Ubuntu 16.04

2016-10-31 Thread Simon Lees


On 11/01/2016 08:32 AM, Peter Flynn wrote:
> I have been (and still am) running e18 without problems on Xubuntu 15.10
> but I just upgraded a system to 16.04 and found that the only packaged
> version in the repos was e17!
> 
> Does anyone know why this has gone backwards?
> 
> I know I should be using e20, but the PPA doesn't support 16.04 yet.
> 
> ///Peter
> 

Well were now at 21.3, Ubuntu doesn't have an active community
maintainer, for enlightenment, if you really want to use enlightenment
on ubuntu its probably best to build efl and it yourself, with some
package merges the number of things you need to build now is quite small.

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Re: [e-users] ibar icon truncated on the sides

2016-10-18 Thread Simon Lees


On 10/19/2016 08:17 AM, Stephen Houston wrote:
> Patience. :-) There is not a lot of incentive to work on ibar, as it's
> replacement is on its way. That said, I think at one point Marcel had
> identified the problem.
> 
He thought he did, but the fix broke it differently.

> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 4:45 PM Daniel Kasak <d.j.kasak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Any progress on this one? I'm getting far to used to using
>> 'everything' to launch apps on the left + right extremes of my ibar :)
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/12/2016 10:02 PM, Benoit Barthelet wrote:
>>>> huge problem I wouldn't say so, I just put apps I use less frequently on
>>>> the sides...;)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just be greatful yours still shows icons :-) (Yes I raised a ticket
>>> somewhere)
>>>
>>>
>> https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-57d0af8433c098.09343257.jpg
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 2:25 PM, <marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/commit/?id=
>>>>> 50030dc69346c209109c36bb41631b176c85b2c5
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the commit which brings this problem up...
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently searching for the reason, which is not that easy. If it
>>>>> gets a too huge problem i can revert that commit and bring it back in,
>>>>> once the reason for the miscalculation is found...
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings
>>>>>bu5hm4n
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 02:08:28PM +0200, Benoit Barthelet wrote:
>>>>>> I use everything compiled from git, I don't know if there is an
>> option to
>>>>>> avoid that, but when I add more items to my ibar, the icons on the
>> left &
>>>>>> right are truncated
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on the below screen you can see the disk usage icon is cut, just next
>> to
>>>>>> the temperature model
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-57d699b5943e53.52970570.jpg
>>>>>> the more apps I add the worse it becomes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> see the second one, terminology icon on the left is cut in half, same
>> for
>>>>>> the one one the right
>>>>>> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-57d69a479dff19.36457584.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> moving the elements on the left and right of the ibar doesnt change
>>>>>> anything, putting it on he desktop solves the issue which seem to
>> appear
>>>>>> only when the ibar is in a shelf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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[e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.21.3 Release

2016-10-11 Thread Simon Lees


CHANGES
https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/tree/NEWS?h=v0.21.3

TICKETS ADDRESSED
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4007
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4430
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4439
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4499
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4544
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4632
  * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4655

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b90517d3de780023043b6e3ade30f686bd2cdcf5b66d24155b50da720e665fd2
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Re: [e-users] enlightenment desktop fails after NVIDIA update

2016-10-08 Thread Simon Lees


On 10/08/2016 06:25 PM, Eric wrote:
> On 10/07/2016 09:01 PM, Simon Lees wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/08/2016 02:22 PM, Eric wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am running openSUSE 13.2 with enlightenment desktop 19.2-4.2.  After
>>> an update for the NVIDIA driver the only thing that appears after
>>> logging in is the mouse cursor.  I am not sure if there is anything I
>>> can do to fix this but I am looking for any suggestions.
>>>
>>> The graphics card is a nvidia GeForce 6150SE nforce 430 integrated card
>>> on a HP desktop computer.
>>>
>>> I am using the openSUSE 13.2 repository for enlightenment with its
>>> latest updates (version .19.2-4.2).  ELF is at currently at 1.115-4.2.
>>> The NVIDIA driver causing the problem is version 304.132-38.1.
>>>
>>> Everything was working great before the update of the nvidia driver.
>>>
>>> Thank you for any help.
>>>
>>> Eric Meddleton
>>>
>>
>> One thing you could consider is adding the repo
>> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Enlightenment:/Factory/openSUSE_13.2/x86_64/
>> which will let you update to the latest version of enlightenment / efl.
>> It might also be worth considering updating to a newer version of
>> openSUSE 13.2 will go out of support in January. Having said that given
>> that all you changed is the driver its possibly a driver bug and you
>> might be able to just go back to a older version of the driver.
>>
> 
> Thank you Simon,
> 
> I was able to get it working using the repository.  I did find out that 
> the problem was with the new NVIDIA driver that I have to choose 
> software rendering instead of OpenGL.  With OpenGL I just get the mouse 
> cursor icon displaying with nothing else.  Using software rendering 
> makes my desktop a little sluggish on this machine.
> 
> I am going to see if I can role back the NVIDIA update somehow.  My 
> google search has not led me with the right info on how to do that yet 
> on openSUSE.
> 
> Eric Meddleton
> 

Updates should remain available, so if you go to yast search for NVIDIA
in the software manager, there should be a version tab that you can use
to roll back.
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Re: [e-users] enlightenment desktop fails after NVIDIA update

2016-10-07 Thread Simon Lees


On 10/08/2016 02:22 PM, Eric wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am running openSUSE 13.2 with enlightenment desktop 19.2-4.2.  After 
> an update for the NVIDIA driver the only thing that appears after 
> logging in is the mouse cursor.  I am not sure if there is anything I 
> can do to fix this but I am looking for any suggestions.
> 
> The graphics card is a nvidia GeForce 6150SE nforce 430 integrated card 
> on a HP desktop computer.
> 
> I am using the openSUSE 13.2 repository for enlightenment with its 
> latest updates (version .19.2-4.2).  ELF is at currently at 1.115-4.2. 
> The NVIDIA driver causing the problem is version 304.132-38.1.
> 
> Everything was working great before the update of the nvidia driver.
> 
> Thank you for any help.
> 
> Eric Meddleton
> 

One thing you could consider is adding the repo
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Enlightenment:/Factory/openSUSE_13.2/x86_64/
which will let you update to the latest version of enlightenment / efl.
It might also be worth considering updating to a newer version of
openSUSE 13.2 will go out of support in January. Having said that given
that all you changed is the driver its possibly a driver bug and you
might be able to just go back to a older version of the driver.

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Re: [e-users] ibar icon truncated on the sides

2016-09-12 Thread Simon Lees


On 09/12/2016 10:02 PM, Benoit Barthelet wrote:
> huge problem I wouldn't say so, I just put apps I use less frequently on
> the sides...;)
> 

Just be greatful yours still shows icons :-) (Yes I raised a ticket
somewhere)

https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.php?image=e-57d0af8433c098.09343257.jpg

> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 2:25 PM, <marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/commit/?id=
>> 50030dc69346c209109c36bb41631b176c85b2c5
>>
>> This is the commit which brings this problem up...
>>
>> I am currently searching for the reason, which is not that easy. If it
>> gets a too huge problem i can revert that commit and bring it back in,
>> once the reason for the miscalculation is found...
>>
>> Greetings
>>bu5hm4n
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 02:08:28PM +0200, Benoit Barthelet wrote:
>>> I use everything compiled from git, I don't know if there is an option to
>>> avoid that, but when I add more items to my ibar, the icons on the left &
>>> right are truncated
>>>
>>> on the below screen you can see the disk usage icon is cut, just next to
>>> the temperature model
>>>
>>> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-57d699b5943e53.52970570.jpg
>>> the more apps I add the worse it becomes
>>>
>>> see the second one, terminology icon on the left is cut in half, same for
>>> the one one the right
>>> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-57d69a479dff19.36457584.jpg
>>>
>>> moving the elements on the left and right of the ibar doesnt change
>>> anything, putting it on he desktop solves the issue which seem to appear
>>> only when the ibar is in a shelf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [e-users] how to start e17 in wayland

2016-08-26 Thread Simon Lees


On 08/26/2016 09:52 PM, PaulTT wrote:
> i followed a couple of instructions, but something isn't clear to me, in
> the end, and i wasn't really able to use it
> 
> i'm able to run weston, and from there, launch enlightenment (which starts
> not fullscreen, not centered, with different res... and doesn't work so
> well :(  but i'm not able to tell if it's a weston related problem or e's)
> 
> i'd expect to be able to run E standalone over wayland, what is the right
> way to do that???
> 
> (i'm using git version of E, compiled on the machine)

From memory running enlightenment_start, without X11 or weston or
anything else running at the time should do it (its on my list to try).

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Re: [e-users] tabs in file manager

2016-08-23 Thread Simon Lees


On 08/23/2016 06:43 PM, PaulTT wrote:
> is it possible to open multiple tabs in a e17  file manager window?

No, not currently, maybe oneday when someone has time to re write it.
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Re: [e-users] E-0.21.2 and 0.20.9 odd behavior

2016-08-22 Thread Simon Lees


On 08/22/2016 11:43 PM, maderios wrote:
> On 08/22/2016 02:18 PM, Simon Lees wrote:
>>
>> Ok there was a couple of similar issues fixed and I thought this was one
>> of them, do you mind creating a ticket on phab.enlightenment.org ?
> OK, Done
> 
> 
I had a quick look and couldn't see it, can you let me know what number
(or subscribe me)

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Re: [e-users] E-0.21.2 and 0.20.9 odd behavior

2016-08-22 Thread Simon Lees


On 08/22/2016 07:18 PM, maderios wrote:
> Hi
> This happens on 0.21.x and 20.x
> - On e-0.21.2, keyboard is frozen. I have to wait few seconds for 
> displaying I type.
> - Clock (seconds) is frozen, then, suddenly restart, then stop again
> - these two problems disappear when moving mouse cursor
> 
> Any idea?
> Thanks
> 

Yeah i'm pretty sure this was a efl bug, the screen was only updating
when you move the cursor, try the efl 1.18 release and see if thats better.

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.21.2 Release

2016-08-22 Thread Simon Lees


On 08/22/2016 06:07 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 04:00:09 -0300 Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira
> <vini.ipsma...@gmail.com> said:
> 
>> 2016-08-22 1:47 GMT-03:00 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de>:
>>
>>> See the full announcement for more details:
>>> https://www.enlightenment.org/news/e21_2_release
>>>
>>
>> It's empty for me. The same happens for all previous releases. This start
>> to bothering me. I feel tricked and I click on a non-existing page. Can you
>> guys just not include theses links anymore?
> 
> he got the url wrong...
> 
> https://www.enlightenment.org/news/e-0.21.2-release
> 
Well I copied the URL from the last news release when creating this one,
and copied the last email and changed the number, so some time ago we
got it wrong, and have continued to do so for quite some time as no one
pointed out this wrongness until now.

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[e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.21.2 Release

2016-08-21 Thread Simon Lees
CHANGES
https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/tree/NEWS?h=v0.21.2

TICKETS ADDRESSED
* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3031
* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4097
* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4121
* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4216
* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4297
* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4298
* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4339

SHA256SUM + DOWNLOAD
af99e5ef25bb89a37ea694c3cdfd14bb315c7d8976de4b5ff200622e052a7226
http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.21.2.tar.gz

a877645dc70aee7114101363b69a1029f575f685e285b570db7c736f253a
http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.21.2.tar.xz

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Re: [e-users] ibar not stable, appears, disappears

2016-08-12 Thread Simon Lees


On 08/12/2016 07:01 PM, Benoit Barthelet wrote:
> my ibar isn’t visible each time i logout
> in the shelf settings it's still on as you can see here, yet no icons are
> displayed
> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-57ad9630531a82.2893.jpg
> 
> if I remove the clock for instance, ibar icons appear
> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-57ad967fdcf7b8.00331398.jpg
> 
> then adding the clock again make ibar disappear
> 
> i can do the same with battery or any other component of the shelf, adding
> i makes ibar appear, remove it make ibar disappear
> 
> i can get the ibar back adding bluez and removing it
> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-57ad9724e51293.34974428.jpg
> 

Which Enlightenment / EFL version have you got and did you build it
yourself or are you using distro packages

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Re: [e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.20.10 Release

2016-07-21 Thread Simon Lees
The original had a copy pasta error

On 07/22/2016 10:48 AM, Simon Lees wrote:
> Please note that this is the last release in the e20 series and users
> are now encouraged to update to the e21 Release to continue receiving
> support.
> 
> CHANGES
> https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/tree/NEWS?h=v0.20.7

> https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/tree/NEWS?h=v0.20.10

> 
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> * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3819
> * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3854
> * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3911
> * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4112
> * https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4119
> 
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> a364efbfe66f6ea5c871837e0c5390ebb6bf2afecba94c1121cbd40043a515f5
> http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.20.10.tar.gz
> 
> 59fd447d120d91d18958a31a5827f97842cc472f2e22f132b2c7d4d208944baf
> http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.20.10.tar.xz
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> https://www.enlightenment.org/news/e20_10_release
> 
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[e-users] Enlightenment DR 0.20.10 Release

2016-07-21 Thread Simon Lees
Please note that this is the last release in the e20 series and users
are now encouraged to update to the e21 Release to continue receiving
support.

CHANGES
https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/tree/NEWS?h=v0.20.7

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* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3819
* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3854
* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T3911
* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4112
* https://phab.enlightenment.org/T4119

SHA256SUM + DOWNLOAD
a364efbfe66f6ea5c871837e0c5390ebb6bf2afecba94c1121cbd40043a515f5
http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.20.10.tar.gz

59fd447d120d91d18958a31a5827f97842cc472f2e22f132b2c7d4d208944baf
http://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/enlightenment/enlightenment-0.20.10.tar.xz

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