Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

Good point. They definitely are not trying to sell them. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: EVDL Administrator via EV Date: 10/24/2015 10:17 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

No one creates a market IMO. Elon filled a market that was already there. He even said so he said he say rich people driving a prius and said someone should make a car for them. They rest make them because of government mandate. Big difference.  If the model 3 comes out it will sell.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:18 AM, tomw via EV wrote: > Is it capable of the 50kW continuous > estimated for the full size pickup? For this sort of back-of-the-envelope guesstimating, you can use a 1:1 conversion for kW and HP. Getting 50 HP out of a 1800 cc aircooled VW motor is

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

Apples and oranges. This is a stationary generator in a steel permanent mounting container. Look at car engines that easily deliver 100kw of power while weighing 1/10 of that diesel generator. Heck, take a transaxle from a Prius as the motors are already PM and bolted to an engine and you have

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

Yes, the sheet steel shroud adds weight, but not near as much as the generator itself, which the car engine doesn't have. I don't know the weight of the Prius powertrain. Is it capable of the 50kW continuous estimated for the full size pickup? PM would definitely increase the continuous power

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

I have taken a Prius transaxle apart and I can tell you that by myself I can lift the block of the engine and I have also wrestled the transaxle minus the largest (MG2) motor on and off a truck bed with just my two hands, so the combination with some external components such as air intake and

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

> On Oct 23, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Ben Goren via EV wrote: > > If the engineering team of a major auto manufacturer couldn't make a 50 kW > system suitable for an hybrid with a gross weight less than that of the > typical American passenger...that team should be fired. >

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Willie2 via EV wrote: > I have four of these: http://is.gd/j4BtyS on order for about $1300 each. Updates on how those work out for you would be appreciated. Oh paper, they're worth considering for my PHEV Mustang b& -- next part

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

On 10/23/2015 02:14 PM, rick via EV wrote: I have a converted Ranger. I seem to do about 500Wh/mile which gives me a 40 mile range. Most of the time that's plenty but I regret that I couldn't afford big enough batteries to give me 60 or 70 miles as I build furniture and some of the better

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

I have a converted Ranger. I seem to do about 500Wh/mile which gives me a 40 mile range. Most of the time that's plenty but I regret that I couldn't afford big enough batteries to give me 60 or 70 miles as I build furniture and some of the better hardwood outlets are more than 20 miles away.

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

I have 144v of 100Ah cells. You're going to have 120Ah so should get a little more range. My truck uses short bursts of 300amps to get going and around 60 amps to maintain 40mph on level roads. I have a couple of steep hills near me, however, that I need 500amps to climb. I'd be very concerned

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

You will need to add the weight of the generator to estimate energy/mile with it on board. Here is a 48kW Generac at home depot, with weight of 2200 lb:

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

On Fri Oct 23 13:29:35 PDT 2015 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Willie2 via EV wrote: > >> I have four of these: http://is.gd/j4BtyS on order for about $1300 each. > >Updates on how those work out for you would be appreciated. Oh paper, they're >worth

[EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

There is no point in suggesting or wishing that EVs can or should replace ICEVs for every task. In fact it's counterproductive. ICEVs are the right choice for the long haul. EVs are outstanding for light commuting and ESPECIALLY for stop-and-go short trips. Short, never-really- warmed-up

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:35 AM, John Lussmyer wrote: > My truck cruises at around 30KW at 60mph. A 10KW generator isn't going to > extend the range much at all. Did I slip a decimal? 500 Wh / mile and 50 MPH (for easy numbers) is 2 miles per kWh is 25 kWh for an

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

It also occurs to me that most if not all of the smaller pickups have been discontinued by major automakers, though I read recently that Ford is thinking about re-introducing something around the size of the discontinued Ranger. A light, 150 mile or so small EV pickup with a proportionally

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

Why *not* suggest or wish that EVs replace ICE for every task? Yes, the right tool for the job (thought you didn't say that), and there are probably tasks that an EV won't make sense for, but the use of EV should be maximized. It may be that the technology for many of these tasks is too costly,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

On Thu Oct 22 08:34:57 PDT 2015 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >On Oct 22, 2015, at 12:18 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > >> In order for the individual to >> see the value proposition, the truck would need a range of at least 200-250 >> miles, a towing capacity of 4,000 lbs+, and cost

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

On Oct 22, 2015, at 12:18 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > In order for the individual to > see the value proposition, the truck would need a range of at least 200-250 > miles, a towing capacity of 4,000 lbs+, and cost under $60,000. We can do some math on that. Trucks,

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

On Oct 22, 2015, at 8:47 AM, John Lussmyer wrote: > My Electric F-250 gets around 650Wh/Mile. My range is about 70 miles. > No Towing. (that would REALLY suck power!) > Even with those restrictions, I find it very useful. I've had it at a bunch > of car shows, and

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup Truck Before Tesla

On Thu Oct 22 09:30:56 PDT 2015 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Between those two extremes there'll be overlap...which is why what the >original author probably actually wants is a Volt-style plugin hybrid. Give it >a powerful electric motor, a ~50 kWh battery...and an onboard 5 - 10 kW >generator and