Re: [EVDL] Fwd: NEW Dual Carbon Battery from POWER JAPAN PLUS

2014-05-25 Thread John Lindsay via EV
Bromine and Chlorine are both from the same corrosive column on the periodic table so you want to avoid breathing the fumes. The design of this battery avoids the production of fumes but I don't expect to see a vehicle application in the near future. John Lindsay Currently in LA Usually in

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Their CEO sez Don't buy the Fiat 500e EV

2014-05-25 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
Sure, but what is crazy about this situation is that people *want* to buy the blessed thing, the reviews are all very good and the engineering faultless (apparently) and here is this chap Sergio Marchionne saying basically that he can't be bothered to work out a way to make money selling the

Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread Willie2 via EV
On 05/24/2014 09:48 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: I think the reasoning is silicon is cheaper than petrochemicals. I particularly like the idea of programmable and sensing roadways. Reminds me of the world of Minority Report. Lawrence Rhodes An idea worthy of study. I would like to

[EVDL] EVLN: Kangoo Zoe EVs powered by Barfoots' farm-biomass-energy

2014-05-25 Thread brucedp5 via EV
Their anaerobic digester plant electricity recharges the EVs http://www.hortweek.com/news/1295476/barfoots-turns-vegetable-waste-vehicle-power/ Barfoots turns vegetable waste into vehicle power 22 May 2014 Specialist vegetable supplier Barfoots has become the first company to use crop waste to

Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread Bill Woodcock via EV
Raw silicon is certainly less expensive, but refined silicon is refined by, ahem, burning a LOT of petrochemicals. Not quite as energy-intensive as aluminum smelting, I'd guess, but nearly so. That's why the embedded energy of PV panels nearly always outweighs their lifetime solar energy

[EVDL] EVLN: Severe Issues w/ fcv Claims h2 Refueling Infrastructure Grant$

2014-05-25 Thread brucedp5 via EV
http://cleantechnica.com/2014/05/20/fuel-cell-vehicle-ghg-emissions/ Severe Issues with Fuel Cell Vehicle GHG Emissions Claims and Hydrogen Refueling Infrastructure Grants [2014/05/20] Editor’s Note: one of our readers sent the following letter on May 19, 2014 to the person and office noted

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Their CEO sez Don't buy the Fiat 500e EV

2014-05-25 Thread Michael Ross via EV
For sure the economies of scale are not there yet. If you are a buyer of shares in companies - the prospect of profits is the main thing - or really even better (if you are an RD driven company) - the prospects of high free cash flow. On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Mark Abramowitz via EV

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: €749 Folkvänlig ebike offered starting in 2 Austrian IKEA stores

2014-05-25 Thread Denis Boutet via EV
Glad to hear that IKEA is being proactive. Indeed IKEA is very pro-active toward the environment and social responsibility in general. I know this first hand for having worked for them 16 years in QA that involved auditing suppliers for IKEA demands towards those environmental demands put on

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014 i-MiEV, most affordable EV in America arrives this spring

2014-05-25 Thread Denis Boutet via EV
I think you mean it arrives in USA. Here in Canada we have the iMiev selling for over a year now. Take care, Denis Le 2014-05-23 à 10:30, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org a écrit : Thanks for your reference data. We do have a milder climate in Seattle but the tradeoff is you need to

Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Bill, I'd like to know where you heard that (incorrect) tidbit about solar panels having more energy content than they generate. Last I checked (about 15 years ago) it was information published by the maker of my solar panels (Kyocera) showing that typical energy payback time of complete solar

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 2014 i-MiEV, most affordable EV in America arrives this spring

2014-05-25 Thread tomw via EV
Dan, Does the i-Miev have an Ah or Wh meter? Do you know how much energy per mile the car uses at say 60 mph and 35 mph? I like the small size and weight, just wish it had a 6.6kW charger and 22kWh pack. -- View this message in context:

Re: [EVDL] EVangel-About: Ford still pushing their pih, One smart new-Leaf driver

2014-05-25 Thread Gail Lucas via EV
Hi Bruce, I am glad to hear you are out and about again, doing your EV things. If by chance you do have to have the thyroid surgery and end up with a scar on your throat I will buy you a couple of turtle neck shirts. There is makeup that will cover a lot of things and you might look good

[EVDL] alligator tears from compliance car providers

2014-05-25 Thread K O via EV
: It's great seeing BParmater's posts again !   I don't shop where I can't charge. www.evalbum.com/1745 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140525/3501eb58

Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
From the video and web page, the surface *is* the solar cell - attached to a solid concrete cellular base by 2 or more bolts. So repair would be very simple and very quick - remove damaged, 'cells' bolt in new ones. The PV and electronics might even be salvageable for re-use in a new cell.

Re: [EVDL] big oil

2014-05-25 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
On 24 May 2014 at 7:37, Electric Blue auto convertions via EV wrote: Im making money just sitting on my ass. Nobody ever really did that. One of the great fallacies of all time is that little bits of coloured paper (or electric charges) get together in bank vaults and breed and multiply

Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Michael, You are talking about financial payback. The discussion was about energy payback: How much energy was used to manufacture the panel (and transport and install it) versus the amount of energy supplied by the panel. Not a financial calculation, although the price of the panel is impacted by

Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread Bill Woodcock via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Severe Issues w/ fcv Claims h2 Refueling Infrastructure Grant$

2014-05-25 Thread Lee Hart via EV
brucedp5 via EV wrote: Here is the summary section from this very long and detailed analysis, for those that don't have time to wade through it all: There is no inherent emissions advantage in Fuel Cell Vehicle technology. EVs are inherently a more efficient and economical per mile usage

Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread Michael Ross via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread John Lindsay via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Solar roadways.

2014-05-25 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
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Re: [EVDL] big oil

2014-05-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Folks, let's be careful please - this thread is turning political. Next thing you know we'll have big flames blasting. Let's keep the flames in the ICEVs' cylinders, where they belong. Thanks! David Roden EVDL Administrator http://www.evdl.org/

[EVDL] EVDL business: Delayed posts, sorry

2014-05-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
In the last few days, several posts have been delayed in making it to the list, and a couple have been rejected. (I don't think any were actually lost.) A few things caused this. First, the recent revisions to the list software to make it work with Yahoo's and AOL's over-the-top security

[EVDL] Leaning narrow vehicle.

2014-05-25 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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