I'm not a physicist, and college physics was too many years ago, so maybe I
have no business commenting on this. However, I'm somewhat sympathetic with
the idea that maybe it's possible to harvest some energy from a roadway.
What is regenerative braking but the process ot retrieving and savin
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Gravity is not a force. Friction is a force. Einsteinium theory of relativity
proved this.
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> Rush is right in that the gravity is the force that slows down the
> vehicle but not in the way you were thinking.
Ah, nitpicking ;-)
You are right, gravity is not a force in itself, it causes a force due
to the attraction observed between masses.
Colloquial speech however simply states: "The force of gravity..."
but it is true that gravity is not the force itself, as explained by
this quote:
"Gravity is most a
Since you seem to have more knowledge about this field than I do... please
enlighten me (and the others on this list) - what is that resistance called and
how does it make objects crash into the ground. What are the losses?
Rush Dougherty
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Rush is right in that the gravity is the force that slows down the
vehicle but not in the way you were thinking.
See, the way that the piezo elements can generate energy is by removing
it from a source, in this case the moving vehicle.
The piezo elements generate energy because a force works on the
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Jack,
This will be my last on-list reply, I fear we are annoying other readers
when we take this much further.
If you are convinced that my mind is made up then there is nothing I can
do to change that.
In your previous response, you clearly stated that you try to harvest
free energy, no change i
> I think you've forgotten about a little pesky thing called gravity... and
> while
> the distances maybe similar, the energy needed to get the 'vehicle' back up to
> the same level, the rise, is more than the energy gained on the fall.
Best check your physics Rush. That same resistance to risi
> You described a perpetuum mobile machine.
No, I'm not. The energy is supplied by an outside source and is energy that
would otherwise be wasted. Not "free" energy as in a "perpetuum mobile
machine". But no point in bothering with details when summarily dismissing new
ideas and approaches.
Jack wrote -
> -Original Message-
>Since the uphill and downhill distances are
> the same, there is no net loss as compared to the surface that did not change
inclination.
> And the rise and fall of both the near end and the far end cause a similar
energy output
I think you've forgotten a
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until the
temperature rises or more traffic travels on them. This is a clear
indication that roads heat up due to traffic.
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range indicator. Battery heat at 6 bars. Lawrence Rhodes
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There is a big difference between the people of Tokyo walking on a
Piezoelectric walkway to light a sign versus running an electric train
between stations. I am more apt to walk to charge my cell phone with
piezoelectric elements built into my shoes but not to charge my EV. If
that were true,
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the roads. It is ignoring the other evidence in favor
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On the efficiency side of things, roads already flex when vehicles drive over
them. Why not harvest that lost energy?
Heat is the "bullshit" detector of such claims. If any significant
amount of energy was being produced by flexing roads, it would show up
as a temperature rise.
aunched two piezoelectric pilot programs in
> >>> >California,
> >>> >Gatto asked the CEC to study the technology. Five years later, the CEC
> >>> >has
> >>> >agreed to fund pilot projects around the state.
> >>> >
> >>&
>has
>>> >agreed to fund pilot projects around the state.
>>> >
>>> >If they are successful, perhaps other states will consider harvesting
>>> >electricity from their busy roadways.
>>> >
>>> >“Thirty years ago, no one would
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>>> >If they are successful, perhaps other states will consider harvesting
>>> >electricity from their busy roadways.
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>>> >“Thirty years ago, no one would have believed that black silicon panels
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strain values. The metal was already "squishy" enough to allow electric
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Really? Is rolling resistance so high that there's energy to power
Burbank? I'm not going to do the math but it sounds preposterous. Ok,
some of the math: 105000 homes at an average of 1MWh/month. That's
10.5GWh/month or 14.5Mwh/hour. So, that strip of highway needs to
produce 14.5Mw. Still see
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