[EVDL] PM motor question
OK you motor gurus. My Gast vacuum pump quit working. Upon disassembly, I found the two curved ceramic field magnets were detached from the motor housing. Needless to say, the motor would not turn with the magnets stuck to the rotor. I cannot tell by looking at the inside of the motor housing exactly where the magnets were positioned. I am going to guess that it makes a difference where the magnets are positioned in relationship to where the motor brushes are positioned. So, if a line is drawn through the center of the two diametrically opposed field magnets, should a line drawn between the opposed brushes be inline or perpendicular to the line through the magnets? Thanks for your help, Al ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Bolt EVs on order ... ($1k to get in line for a piece of the GM action)
In reference to Ed's post
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/GM-Killed-The-Bolt-Electric-Car-GM-only-selling-Bolt-in-CA-OR-tp4684542p4684562.html
>I put a deposit down on a BoltEV at my local Chevrolet dealer. I'm told
they are expecting 100 to be delivered beginning next week (after
Thanksgiving)<
I think it will be interesting to know how that experience went from a
driver's perspective. Also to know:
-dealership support
-Bolt forum (which one is better, GM notes& letters only owners will get,
etc.)
-compatibility issues charging with various EVSE
-how well or badly GM's guessometer is (% or bars?)
-hidden costs (regular maintenance required to keep warranty?, special
tires- lrr?, etc.)
-online upgrades (does GM do over the air software upgrades in the same way
(can drivers opt to postpone, or block an upgrade if later it is found to be
harmful or leaves driver in a worse state that before the upgrade, etc.)
-and any other issues that differentiate the Bolt EV experience from other
EVs.
Ed's comment about the HMC EV-plus reminded me of way back when I signed my
life away to have one for a couple of days to promote it at local shows. I
took as many people as I could for rides in it. Even with my type of normal
size (larger than munchkins) I remember I was more comfortable in it than
today's roomy Soul EV (of course way back then I was skinnier& younger).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_EV_Plus
The Honda EV Plus was the first battery electric vehicle from a major
automaker with non-lead acid batteries. Roughly 340 EV Plus models were
produced and ...
http://world.honda.com/history/challenge/1988evplus/
This was before HMC took all of those EVs back to shred them. So, for those
two days I felt I was living the EV life as it was meant to be (it felt like
it was the year 2010+). I did not bother L1 charging at home, as L2-6kW
charging was a breeze at work. An EVII ICS-200 Avcon EVSE had been installed
at Bldg 42 (rip, the hp Cupertino site 11+ bldgs were sold& demolished for
make way for spaceship Apple, see)
http://www.cupertino.org/index.aspx?page=1223
Below is a link to a news item (political discussions are OT on the evdl)
http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/general-motors/2016/11/19/chevy-bolt-tesla-model-3-trump/94018674/
for you to read offline. I am posting a few excerpts from it (below) that
might be useful:
November 20, 2016 ... electric vehicles in general face a radically new
regulatory and political playing field as a professed climate change denier
prepares to occupy ...
... But just two days after the election, automakers' chief lobbying group,
the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, urged ... revise not only the
fuel economy standards, but also ... autonomous vehicle standards, on the
grounds that they could cost its member companies billions of dollars.
[*] "The short answer is that we don’t know what will happen ... " said
Dave Reichmuth, senior engineer for the Union of Concerned Scientists clean
vehicles program. "It might be awhile before we understand the policy
priorities ...
... The Bolt comes to market, beginning in California ...
"We have six now and four are already sold. Mid-December is the target week
for when we get any more," said Brian Satterlund, new car sales manager at
Ron Tonkin Chevrolet in Portland, Or ...
About 1,100 miles south in Redwood City, Calif., about 40 customers have
preordered Bolts, according to Michael Little, a sales consultant at
Boardwalk Chevrolet.
[*] "Those people have paid a $1,000 deposit that holds your place in line,"
Little said. "We're expecting to receive 39 Bolts the week of Nov. 28 and
another 14 on Dec. 12."
... the West Coast remains a strong market for EVs ... Nine other states
have the same targets. They are Connecticut, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts,
New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island and Vermont ...
General Motors hasn't discussed its production plan for the Bolt, beyond
saying it will build to meet demand. ...
Musk ... appears unfazed by the potential of less-EV-friendly regulations
... Musk taunted GM for its modest production targets for the Bolt, saying,
"A car like that should be aiming at shipping 300,000 to 500,000 per year."
“GM is using a similar approach to what they’ve done for 100 years.
Tesla is following its own playbook," said Stephanie Brinley, an industry
analyst with IHS Automotive ...
Dan Sperling, founding director of the University of California Davis
Institute for Transportation Studies ... "The industry has made a massive
investment in electric vehicles," Sperling said. "While some would prefer to
slow it down, most companies are going to continue along that path." ... [©
2016 www.freep.com]
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Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car
Solar and Wind are already cheaper than Coal in many areas (solar not so much in Alaska, but pretty much in most southern states) so even if forces that be want to push coal, it is a losing proposition against the already-cheaper-and-getting-cheaper-every-year renewable energy. Wouldn't it be most ironical if within a few years EVs will be winning, not because the powers that be are concerned about emissions, but simply because oil is a losing proposition against the economic power of electric drivetrains? One can dream of a vision that allows us to move in the right direction, even under the yoke of powers that want to move in the opposite direction... Note that the two countries that contain 1/3 of the world population China and India are in dire need to get off of coal as they are choking on the bad consequences of burning that much coal, that is why solar and even EVs are getting so much promotion in those locations. The solar war is pretty much won in that the price is low enough, they just need to install more of it. EVs are following not because they are cheaper or simpler, but simply because they are getting sick of the pollution levels, similar to how choking smog in places like Los Angeles led California to implement very strict emissions rules. Sometimes it has to get bad before it gets better, because people wisen up when it starts hurting... Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 2:08 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car On 20 Nov 2016 at 11:43, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > If China and India and Europe and several countries of S America and > Asia are moving to electric transportation then it is pretty irrelevant > what happens in USA ... I wouldn't go so far as to say "irrelevant," because the US is (at least for the moment) a pretty large market for new vehicles. But it's far from the only market. Vehicle demand is trending up in places we would have called "third world" just a few years ago, and some of those places think that EVs might be a good idea. It's possible that success in rolling back EV demand in the US might prompt the automakers to try similar strategies in other countries. Some of them will no doubt be open to it. Early UK legislative proposals after the "Brexit" vote had to do with weakening environmental laws, some of which were originally passed to comply with EU regulations. That is likely to spread. Radical political changes have already taken place in Hungary and Poland. "Brexit" style changes are also somwhere between possible and likely over the next few elections in France, Austria, Germany, Netherlands, and Sweden. We could see the weakening or even the complete breakup of the EU. That would be a dismaying setback for environmental law and for EVs. I guess this all sounds kind of dire (just call me Mr Worst Case Scenario), but still my hope is that EVs are close to some kind of critical mass internationally. If that's true, EVs WILL be manufactured around the world. Despite Elon Musk's confidence it's still a tough slog for a small upstart automaker (look what happened to Pivco / Think), so let's hope the EV manufacturers' list continues to include Tesla. Which of these EVs are offered in the US will depend on many factors, from perceived demand and profitability to impending US protectionism and economic isolation. For example, tightening US FMVSS while loosening emissions regulations would favor large US ICEVs at the expense of imports, smaller vehicles, and EVs. > besides a repeat of the 70's where the USA automakers were wiped away > by events beyond their control due to their lack of preparation for > change (not entirely unlike Dinosaurs). I think that's likely, but who knows when? OPEC was pretty successful in throttling the US with their oil blockade, but that was 40+ years ago, and our petroleum sources are more diverse now. There's also that protectionist sentiment I mentioned above. OTOH, big energy companies already have plenty of market control, and I sure don't see that diminishing. I can imagine an internal US version of OPEC, or an Enron style cartel, manufacturing an artifical fuel shortage for the sake of their profits, just as well as I can imagine an actual depletion of reserves.
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car
On 20 Nov 2016 at 11:43, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > If China and India and Europe and several countries of S America and > Asia are moving to electric transportation then it is pretty irrelevant > what happens in USA ... I wouldn't go so far as to say "irrelevant," because the US is (at least for the moment) a pretty large market for new vehicles. But it's far from the only market. Vehicle demand is trending up in places we would have called "third world" just a few years ago, and some of those places think that EVs might be a good idea. It's possible that success in rolling back EV demand in the US might prompt the automakers to try similar strategies in other countries. Some of them will no doubt be open to it. Early UK legislative proposals after the "Brexit" vote had to do with weakening environmental laws, some of which were originally passed to comply with EU regulations. That is likely to spread. Radical political changes have already taken place in Hungary and Poland. "Brexit" style changes are also somwhere between possible and likely over the next few elections in France, Austria, Germany, Netherlands, and Sweden. We could see the weakening or even the complete breakup of the EU. That would be a dismaying setback for environmental law and for EVs. I guess this all sounds kind of dire (just call me Mr Worst Case Scenario), but still my hope is that EVs are close to some kind of critical mass internationally. If that's true, EVs WILL be manufactured around the world. Despite Elon Musk's confidence it's still a tough slog for a small upstart automaker (look what happened to Pivco / Think), so let's hope the EV manufacturers' list continues to include Tesla. Which of these EVs are offered in the US will depend on many factors, from perceived demand and profitability to impending US protectionism and economic isolation. For example, tightening US FMVSS while loosening emissions regulations would favor large US ICEVs at the expense of imports, smaller vehicles, and EVs. > besides a repeat of the 70's where the USA automakers were wiped away > by events beyond their control due to their lack of preparation for > change (not entirely unlike Dinosaurs). I think that's likely, but who knows when? OPEC was pretty successful in throttling the US with their oil blockade, but that was 40+ years ago, and our petroleum sources are more diverse now. There's also that protectionist sentiment I mentioned above. OTOH, big energy companies already have plenty of market control, and I sure don't see that diminishing. I can imagine an internal US version of OPEC, or an Enron style cartel, manufacturing an artifical fuel shortage for the sake of their profits, just as well as I can imagine an actual depletion of reserves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_electricity_crisis Also, weakening US MPG and energy efficiency requirements could trigger a small orgy of energy consumption here. That would hasten the "day of petroleum reckoning." (It would also be pretty bad news for the rest of the world.) Interesting times, indeed. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ...
When you consider that Exxon Mobile, in their 2016 World Energy Outlook: A View to 2040, (ref: http://cdn.exxonmobil.com/~/media/global/files/outlook-for-energy/2016/2016-outlook-for-energy.pdf) on page 62 of 80, has a graph that clearly shows conventional oil production peaked in 2005. The graph also shows a combination of Conventional, New conventional, Deepwater, Oil sands and Tight oil peaking in production around 2040, it seems very short sighted not to develop EVs (or alternative fuel sourced vehicles). 2040 is only 23 years away and fleet turnover is roughly once every 16 years. Also, the remaining oil reserves are more expensive to develop. How people get around after the peak in 2040 is something I think GM would want a share of that market or they grow irrelevant. The other possibility is that someone has or is close to storing hydrogen absorbed in a solid (or liquid) material for later release under heat, pressure, or sound. GM would then be hedging their bets. Has anybody read of any recent developments? Tom is likely on to something. Increasing the range of an EV from 80 miles to 238 is a significant development and there maybe problems as Tom listed especially if it was done by increasing the Whr/kg energy density. On 11/20/16, 1:10 PM, tomw via EV wrote: A few possible reasons for the slowed introduction of the Bolt: 1) LG Chem has had a glitch in increasing battery production so cannot supply the planned quantities in the required time frame. 2) GM has discovered some problems with the Bolt which they do not want to advertise, but need to delay production to implement improvements. 3) GM (or LG Chem) has discovered some ways to significantly reduce production costs and want get these designed in and implemented before producing significant product quantity. 4) GM wants to gain field experience with Bolt ownership in a limited way to see what issues arise to limit warranty/recall costs. Having worked in product development quite a few years I have personally experienced analogs of all of these. But, people like to speculate and believe what they want to believe. Only time will tell. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/GM-Killed-The-Bolt-Electric-Car-GM-only-selling-Bolt-in-CA-OR-tp4684542p4684555.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Elon Musk says Trump presidency won't hurt Tesla - here's why
"But Musk said eliminating ZEV credits, if it should ever happen, would actually improve Tesla's competitive position in the market." http://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-trump-decision-on-electric-car-incentiv es-wont-hurt-tesla-2016-11 Well it looks like Musk thinks that Tesla is going to be immune to Trumps potential moves against the EV, even if the ZEV credits are eliminated. The article also states 'The mandate has been adopted by nine other states, such as Maryland and Maine", which seems at odds with Peri's Wikipedia link that cites '13 plus DC' have adopted the California standards. While the article is not really an in-depth one, it does give Musk's thoughts about ZEV and Trump, which are worth reading. Rush Dougherty Tucson AZ 85719 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Bolt in CA ...
I've decided to be selfish on this issue. I put a deposit down on a BoltEV at my local Chevrolet dealer. I'm told they are expecting 100 to be delivered beginning next week (after Thanksgiving). As I understand it, GM will be selling the BoltEV. I will not lease it. After my experience leasing the Honda EVPlus from 1997 to 2003, I will never lease a vehicle again, or purchase a Honda. The EVPlus was an incredible car though. It was a way better electric vehicle than my 2011 Leaf. Ed ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GMonly sellingBolt in CA ...
ovember 20, 2016 12:33 AM > To: EVDL Administrator > Cc: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ... > > I hope and that that you are wrong in thinking it possible that EVs could become unavailable. > I expect a strong and vigorous market. > I'm also hopeful that a surging EV market will mean that EV conversions will grow along with > the main EV market. > > Sent from AltaMail > > > From: EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List > <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM > Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Bolt in CA ... > Date: 11/20/16, 12:00 AM > > > History tells us that -- for better and/or worse -- what governments do > > makes a big difference in whether EVs advance or retreat. > > Bruce is 100% correct that GM's specific history predicts their current and future involvement > with EVs. As I said a couple of weeks ago, I'm still > > waiting for that Chevette EV that GM promised in 1978. I guess I'll be > > waiting a lot longer. > > (Disclosure: That's a rhetorical statement. Personally, I wouldn't buy any GM vehicle at any > price under any circumstances. Also, having known someone who owned a 1980 Chevette: > yikes, noo ... ) > > All that said, unless the state or fed legislators make it illegal, the sure way to drive electric is > and probably aways will be to build your own. > > Normally that would entail converting an ICEV. > > I think I can safely say that EV conversion has been the EVDL's largest and most critical > mission since it was first launched at sjsu.edu 25 years > ago. > If and when no automaker will sell you an EV here in the US, or you can't get the type of > vehicle you need with a motor under the hood, drop on by the EVDL. We'll be here to help. > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: > http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private > message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161120/93ef > 8727/attachment.htm> > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Bolt in CA ...
I emailed GM 5 days ago asking if they are committed to the Bolt roll-out and EV in general. I have not heard back. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/GM-Killed-The-Bolt-Electric-Car-GM-only-selling-Bolt-in-CA-OR-tp4684542p4684560.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ...
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Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ...
We get a new Tzar of the EPA with Trump. Rules can change rapidly. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 20, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > It does seem to be more than a coincidence. But part of the reason could be > the realization of an enormously challenging rollout. After all, they are > trying to do what Tesla is doing in about a third the time. > > Not only that, but there are 13 states plus DC which have adopted CARB. > Unless the EPA is significantly overruled, I don't think GM cannot ignore > that. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_emission_standards > > Peri > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Cor van de Water via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> > Cc: > Sent: 20-Nov-16 8:50:14 AM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt > in CA ... > >> Mark, >> >> I share the hope. >> But I am also wondering why GM suddenly changed their roll-out strategy >> significantly (reducing it and making it much more non-committal) just >> days after the surprising outcome of the elections. Hard to believe that >> is a coincidence. >> And that coupled to the automaker lobbying efforts already under way to >> abolish the CARB mandates - where did we hear that before? >> >> Cor van de Water >> Chief Scientist >> Proxim Wireless >> >> office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water >> XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info >> >> http://www.proxim.com >> >> This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and >> proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received >> this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any >> unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of >> this message is prohibited. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Mark Abramowitz >> via EV >> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:33 AM >> To: EVDL Administrator >> Cc: Electric Vehicle Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only >> sellingBolt in CA ... >> >> I hope and that that you are wrong in thinking it possible that EVs >> could become unavailable. >> I expect a strong and vigorous market. >> I'm also hopeful that a surging EV market will mean that EV conversions >> will grow along with the main EV market. >> >> Sent from AltaMail >> >> >> From: EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric >> Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM >> Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Boltin CA ... >> Date: 11/20/16, 12:00 AM >> >> >> History tells us that -- for better and/or worse -- what governments do >> >> makes a big difference in whether EVs advance or retreat. >> >> Bruce is 100% correct that GM's specific history predicts their current >> and >> future involvement with EVs. As I said a couple of weeks ago, I'm still >> >> waiting for that Chevette EV that GM promised in 1978. I guess I'll be >> >> waiting a lot longer. >> >> (Disclosure: That's a rhetorical statement. Personally, I wouldn't buy >> any >> GM vehicle at any price under any circumstances. Also, having known >> someone >> who owned a 1980 Chevette: yikes, noo ... ) >> >> All that said, unless the state or fed legislators make it illegal, the >> sure >> way to drive electric is and probably aways will be to build your own. >> >> Normally that would entail converting an ICEV. >> >> I think I can safely say that EV conversion has been the EVDL's largest >> and >> most critical mission since it was first launched at sjsu.edu 25 years >> ago. >> If and when no automaker will sell you an EV here in the US, or you >> can't >> get the type of vehicle you need with a motor under the hood, drop on by >> the >> EVDL. We'll be here to help. >> >> David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA >> EVDL Administrator >> >> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >> = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >> Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses
[EVDL] 932 Mile range Solar EV to be produced in China
Sorry for the HTML junk. Revised URLs below. If not fully blue copy the whole line and paste in. Again apologies for all the junk characters. Lawrence Rhodes The Tesla Cruiser Class winner from 2015 may be mass produced in China. This record breaking and award winning solar vehicle which under normal use will never need outside energy input is on the verge mass production for the Chinese and world market. Solar Team Eindhoven on Twitter https://twitter.com/SolarEHV/status/799283190326292480?t=1=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D=email=2e853f49cfbe4888b922581d5475e126=193207768=244+276893713 https://e52.nl/en/high-tech-peak-award-stella-lux-the-family-car-powered-by-solar-energy https://medium.com/@e52/solar-cars-design-in-eindhoven-mass-production-in-china-3f15e5c5ea47#.2ljj4zw3d http://sinovoltaics.com/technology/stella-lux-winner-of-world-solar-challenge-visits-shanghai ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ...
A few possible reasons for the slowed introduction of the Bolt: 1) LG Chem has had a glitch in increasing battery production so cannot supply the planned quantities in the required time frame. 2) GM has discovered some problems with the Bolt which they do not want to advertise, but need to delay production to implement improvements. 3) GM (or LG Chem) has discovered some ways to significantly reduce production costs and want get these designed in and implemented before producing significant product quantity. 4) GM wants to gain field experience with Bolt ownership in a limited way to see what issues arise to limit warranty/recall costs. Having worked in product development quite a few years I have personally experienced analogs of all of these. But, people like to speculate and believe what they want to believe. Only time will tell. -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/GM-Killed-The-Bolt-Electric-Car-GM-only-selling-Bolt-in-CA-OR-tp4684542p4684555.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ...
I think that Tesla is the market dynamic that makes this round different. Even if all other manufacturers pull back from selling electric vehicles, Tesla will still be there them. They are all in on EVs. I'm still surprised that the other manufacturers would cede the business to Tesla so easily, but that lookalike what GM just did. They really must not believe that EVs are the future of transportation. That leaves Tesla to drive the market. I wish that there were other manufacturers taking active part, because Tesla has a long way to go and their finances are tight, but I am really glad they are trying like they are. Mike On November 20, 2016 9:50:14 AM MST, Cor van de Water via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: >Mark, > >I share the hope. >But I am also wondering why GM suddenly changed their roll-out strategy >significantly (reducing it and making it much more non-committal) just >days after the surprising outcome of the elections. Hard to believe >that >is a coincidence. >And that coupled to the automaker lobbying efforts already under way to >abolish the CARB mandates - where did we hear that before? > >Cor van de Water >Chief Scientist >Proxim Wireless > >office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water >XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info > >http://www.proxim.com > >This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential >and >proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you >received >this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any >unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of >this message is prohibited. > > >-Original Message- >From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Mark >Abramowitz >via EV >Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:33 AM >To: EVDL Administrator >Cc: Electric Vehicle Discussion List >Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only >sellingBolt in CA ... > >I hope and that that you are wrong in thinking it possible that EVs >could become unavailable. >I expect a strong and vigorous market. >I'm also hopeful that a surging EV market will mean that EV conversions >will grow along with the main EV market. > >Sent from AltaMail > > > From: EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric >Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM >Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Bolt in CA ... >Date: 11/20/16, 12:00 AM > > >History tells us that -- for better and/or worse -- what governments do > >makes a big difference in whether EVs advance or retreat. > >Bruce is 100% correct that GM's specific history predicts their current >and >future involvement with EVs. As I said a couple of weeks ago, I'm >still > >waiting for that Chevette EV that GM promised in 1978. I guess I'll be > >waiting a lot longer. > >(Disclosure: That's a rhetorical statement. Personally, I wouldn't buy >any >GM vehicle at any price under any circumstances. Also, having known >someone >who owned a 1980 Chevette: yikes, noo ... ) > >All that said, unless the state or fed legislators make it illegal, the >sure >way to drive electric is and probably aways will be to build your own. > >Normally that would entail converting an ICEV. > >I think I can safely say that EV conversion has been the EVDL's largest >and >most critical mission since it was first launched at sjsu.edu 25 years >ago. >If and when no automaker will sell you an EV here in the US, or you >can't >get the type of vehicle you need with a motor under the hood, drop on >by >the >EVDL. We'll be here to help. > >David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA >EVDL Administrator > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not >reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my >email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > >___ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ >Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > >-- next part -- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: ><http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161120/93ef >8727
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ...
ild your own. > >Normally that would entail converting an ICEV. > >I think I can safely say that EV conversion has been the EVDL's largest >and >most critical mission since it was first launched at sjsu.edu 25 years >ago. >If and when no automaker will sell you an EV here in the US, or you >can't >get the type of vehicle you need with a motor under the hood, drop on >by >the >EVDL. We'll be here to help. > >David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA >EVDL Administrator > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not >reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my >email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > >___ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ >Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > >-- next part -- >An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >URL: ><http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161120/93e f >8727/attachment.htm> >___ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ >Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > >___ >UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ >Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ...
It does seem to be more than a coincidence. But part of the reason could be the realization of an enormously challenging rollout. After all, they are trying to do what Tesla is doing in about a third the time. Not only that, but there are 13 states plus DC which have adopted CARB. Unless the EPA is significantly overruled, I don't think GM cannot ignore that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_emission_standards Peri -- Original Message -- From: "Cor van de Water via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: Sent: 20-Nov-16 8:50:14 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ... Mark, I share the hope. But I am also wondering why GM suddenly changed their roll-out strategy significantly (reducing it and making it much more non-committal) just days after the surprising outcome of the elections. Hard to believe that is a coincidence. And that coupled to the automaker lobbying efforts already under way to abolish the CARB mandates - where did we hear that before? Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Mark Abramowitz via EV Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:33 AM To: EVDL Administrator Cc: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ... I hope and that that you are wrong in thinking it possible that EVs could become unavailable. I expect a strong and vigorous market. I'm also hopeful that a surging EV market will mean that EV conversions will grow along with the main EV market. Sent from AltaMail From: EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Bolt in CA ... Date: 11/20/16, 12:00 AM History tells us that -- for better and/or worse -- what governments do makes a big difference in whether EVs advance or retreat. Bruce is 100% correct that GM's specific history predicts their current and future involvement with EVs. As I said a couple of weeks ago, I'm still waiting for that Chevette EV that GM promised in 1978. I guess I'll be waiting a lot longer. (Disclosure: That's a rhetorical statement. Personally, I wouldn't buy any GM vehicle at any price under any circumstances. Also, having known someone who owned a 1980 Chevette: yikes, noo ... ) All that said, unless the state or fed legislators make it illegal, the sure way to drive electric is and probably aways will be to build your own. Normally that would entail converting an ICEV. I think I can safely say that EV conversion has been the EVDL's largest and most critical mission since it was first launched at sjsu.edu 25 years ago. If and when no automaker will sell you an EV here in the US, or you can't get the type of vehicle you need with a motor under the hood, drop on by the EVDL. We'll be here to help. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161120/93ef 8727/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ...
Mark, I share the hope. But I am also wondering why GM suddenly changed their roll-out strategy significantly (reducing it and making it much more non-committal) just days after the surprising outcome of the elections. Hard to believe that is a coincidence. And that coupled to the automaker lobbying efforts already under way to abolish the CARB mandates - where did we hear that before? Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Mark Abramowitz via EV Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:33 AM To: EVDL Administrator Cc: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only sellingBolt in CA ... I hope and that that you are wrong in thinking it possible that EVs could become unavailable. I expect a strong and vigorous market. I'm also hopeful that a surging EV market will mean that EV conversions will grow along with the main EV market. Sent from AltaMail From: EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Bolt in CA ... Date: 11/20/16, 12:00 AM History tells us that -- for better and/or worse -- what governments do makes a big difference in whether EVs advance or retreat. Bruce is 100% correct that GM's specific history predicts their current and future involvement with EVs. As I said a couple of weeks ago, I'm still waiting for that Chevette EV that GM promised in 1978. I guess I'll be waiting a lot longer. (Disclosure: That's a rhetorical statement. Personally, I wouldn't buy any GM vehicle at any price under any circumstances. Also, having known someone who owned a 1980 Chevette: yikes, noo ... ) All that said, unless the state or fed legislators make it illegal, the sure way to drive electric is and probably aways will be to build your own. Normally that would entail converting an ICEV. I think I can safely say that EV conversion has been the EVDL's largest and most critical mission since it was first launched at sjsu.edu 25 years ago. If and when no automaker will sell you an EV here in the US, or you can't get the type of vehicle you need with a motor under the hood, drop on by the EVDL. We'll be here to help. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161120/93ef 8727/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Bolt in CA ...
I hope and that that you are wrong in thinking it possible that EVs could become unavailable. I expect a strong and vigorous market. I'm also hopeful that a surging EV market will mean that EV conversions will grow along with the main EV market. Sent from AltaMail From: EVDL Administrator via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Subject: Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Bolt in CA ... Date: 11/20/16, 12:00 AM History tells us that -- for better and/or worse -- what governments do makes a big difference in whether EVs advance or retreat. Bruce is 100% correct that GM's specific history predicts their current and future involvement with EVs. As I said a couple of weeks ago, I'm still waiting for that Chevette EV that GM promised in 1978. I guess I'll be waiting a lot longer. (Disclosure: That's a rhetorical statement. Personally, I wouldn't buy any GM vehicle at any price under any circumstances. Also, having known someone who owned a 1980 Chevette: yikes, noo ... ) All that said, unless the state or fed legislators make it illegal, the sure way to drive electric is and probably aways will be to build your own. Normally that would entail converting an ICEV. I think I can safely say that EV conversion has been the EVDL's largest and most critical mission since it was first launched at sjsu.edu 25 years ago. If and when no automaker will sell you an EV here in the US, or you can't get the type of vehicle you need with a motor under the hood, drop on by the EVDL. We'll be here to help. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161120/93ef8727/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
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Re: [EVDL] GM Killed The (Bolt) Electric Car : GM only selling Bolt in CA ...
History tells us that -- for better and/or worse -- what governments do makes a big difference in whether EVs advance or retreat. Bruce is 100% correct that GM's specific history predicts their current and future involvement with EVs. As I said a couple of weeks ago, I'm still waiting for that Chevette EV that GM promised in 1978. I guess I'll be waiting a lot longer. (Disclosure: That's a rhetorical statement. Personally, I wouldn't buy any GM vehicle at any price under any circumstances. Also, having known someone who owned a 1980 Chevette: yikes, noo ... ) All that said, unless the state or fed legislators make it illegal, the sure way to drive electric is and probably aways will be to build your own. Normally that would entail converting an ICEV. I think I can safely say that EV conversion has been the EVDL's largest and most critical mission since it was first launched at sjsu.edu 25 years ago. If and when no automaker will sell you an EV here in the US, or you can't get the type of vehicle you need with a motor under the hood, drop on by the EVDL. We'll be here to help. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
